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Should France Focus on Economy or Social Issues?

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Some states in America have adopted more liberal views on "amour" than France. Several states in America have legislated same-sex marriage, while France still maintains the tradition of one man and one woman. France has had a national debate about same-sex marriage, and the country overwhelmingly accepts it, but the government has not yet made it legal -- and won't do so until next year.

France has gained a national consensus on transforming traditional marriage, but has not found consensus on economics. The country suffers high unemployment and a struggling economy. Should France focus its national debate on the economy, austerity, taxes and unemployment? Or are social issues more important than that?

REASON.COM reports:
The European country you probably assumed was already recognizing gay marriage will actually begin recognizing gay marriage (and allow gay couples to adopt) in 2013.
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  • Joanie 2012/07/13 21:36:05
    Social Issues
    Joanie
    +10
    This is a false choice. In the real world, it is not either/or. Governments can and should address both economic issues and social problems.

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  • JCD aka... Energene 2012/07/17 15:35:49
    JCD aka "biz"
    France has been run for ten years by conservatives, people wanted a change, and they elected a Socialist two months ago.
  • valeria la potra 2012/07/14 04:02:12
    Social Issues
    valeria la potra
    +1
    Both:)
  • ♒ßεllεchεvεllε®♒ 2012/07/14 02:32:36
    Economy
    ♒ßεllεchεvεllε®♒
    +4
    I really don't believe that we (Americans) have any room to talk right now.
  • The Libertarian 2012/07/14 02:18:34
    Economy
    The Libertarian
    +2
    France needs to focus on the economy, why if the French would just use these products daily, they could solve their economic problems.

    france focus economy french products daily solve economic problems

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  • JCD aka... The Lib... 2012/07/17 15:37:26
    JCD aka "biz"
    lol

    You have a point. I'm French and I agree that some subway riders do not always smell nice.
  • ~HopelessRomanticM17~ 2012/07/14 02:15:14
    Economy
    ~HopelessRomanticM17~
    +2
    I feel like they should focus on both as a country, but the government should focus more on the economy.
  • clasact 2012/07/14 01:54:37
    Economy
    clasact
    +3
    not only France but everyone should be
  • ComeOnNow 2012/07/14 01:52:24
    Economy
    ComeOnNow
    +1
    They should probably shower first because we are tired of their repugnant stinking asses and it only takes a few minutes. Then they should work on actuall working instead of simply sucking the few that still do dry and bankruptimg the country.
  • Inquisitve Kat 2012/07/14 01:25:17
    Economy
    Inquisitve Kat
    +1
    It sounds like they finally came together on social issues... time to focus on the economy.
  • Stryder 2012/07/14 00:30:27
    Economy
    Stryder
    C'est l'économie, idiot !
  • JCD aka... Stryder 2012/07/17 15:38:13
    JCD aka "biz"
    +1
    Bravo pour ce commentaire en excellent français!
  • Stryder JCD aka... 2012/07/17 15:45:13
    Stryder
    +1
    Merci.
  • Chris 2012/07/13 23:13:27 (edited)
    Social Issues
    Chris
    +2
    Both. You have a really incompetent government if it can't multi-task.
  • Bob 2012/07/13 23:03:49
    Economy
    Bob
    And whining...need to stop crying.
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/07/13 22:54:23
    Economy
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    They like us need to get our houses in order first. We need to get people to work first and off of welfare and unemployment.
  • MarinerFH 2012/07/13 22:50:00
  • flaca BN-0 2012/07/13 22:46:38
    Economy
    flaca BN-0
    +1
    It's kind of a moot question since the French (the young French) are not as in love with marriage as we are. It's very common for people to just co-habit without marrying.
  • A Founding Father 2012/07/13 22:17:16
    Economy
    A Founding Father
    Exporting more of their better wines. All the rest can be left to them.
  • George 2012/07/13 21:54:56
    Economy
    George
    How about inventing a French army tank that has more forward gears than reverse ones?
  • JCD aka... George 2012/07/17 15:39:45
    JCD aka "biz"
    You could teach us a few lessons about "fragging".
  • George JCD aka... 2012/07/18 10:04:32
    George
    im setting classes for next week. Enrollment fees will be set at 1 large mcdonalds fries for each student. Thats FRENCH fries only though.
  • JCD aka... George 2012/07/18 14:29:49
    JCD aka "biz"
    lol
  • Joanie 2012/07/13 21:36:05
    Social Issues
    Joanie
    +10
    This is a false choice. In the real world, it is not either/or. Governments can and should address both economic issues and social problems.
  • VICTORIA Joanie 2012/07/14 02:17:52
    VICTORIA
    +3
    Of course it's a false choice.
    But here is where the extreme hypocrisy kicks in-
    89% of Conservatives here voted for the economy option- yet still vote their reps into office
    whose ONLY contributions the past 2 years have been economy avoiding- social issues.
    vote reps office contributions 2 years economy avoiding- social issues

    Because, we need more anti-abortion bills and healthcare repealing efforts.
  • baboula VICTORIA 2012/07/14 14:51:31
    baboula
    +1
    It is hard to remember but the Congress is comprised of Both House AND Senate. So what the House passes, the Senate shuts down and vice versa.
    Since a majority of the American people (anywhere between 57%-75%) do not like the current Healthcare bill and want it repealed, it seems the Senate is the obstructionists
  • VICTORIA baboula 2012/07/15 03:56:51
    VICTORIA
    +1
    And my chart contained BOTH House and Senate proposals.

    Obviously I am acutely aware of what you deem 'hard to remember'.
    It's not hard for me- I included both.

    Historically- and by that I mean the past 30 years- not yesterday-
    the American people- on both sides- have consistently polled at over 66% percent in FAVOR of a universal healthcare program.
  • baboula VICTORIA 2012/07/15 16:29:02
    baboula
    You chart said 112th Congress but your comments did not - you chart does not make any mention of the budgets the House has sent to the Senate - but it serves your pupose
    What does the word "current" mean to you? I never said healthcare was not wanted only that it was not wanted in the current form.
  • Joanie VICTORIA 2012/07/14 15:13:35
    Joanie
    +1
    Good point!
  • VICTORIA Joanie 2012/07/15 04:04:36
    VICTORIA
    +1
    One that was a response to your own excellent observation.
  • kmay VICTORIA 2012/07/15 21:49:57
    kmay
    Social Issues should be left to the States. Not the Fed Gov purview.
  • baboula Joanie 2012/07/14 14:41:19
    baboula
    It is not a false choice - if there is no money to back it up, any social change is meaningless
  • Joanie baboula 2012/07/14 15:18:01 (edited)
    Joanie
    +2
    I am sorry, but you are wrong. Making same sex marriage lawful is a social issue that doesn't cost government a significant amount of money. Enacting laws providing equality in the workplace and the right to sue one's employer in the case of inequality is another example of a social reform which doesn't require signficant government funding. Sometimes economic reforms don't cost the government any money. For example, the cut in the marginal tax rates under President Kennedy resulted in the government collecting more money. The bottom line is, "Can you rub your tummy and pat your head at the same time?" This is a false choice.
  • baboula Joanie 2012/07/14 18:10:02
    baboula
    Despite the fact that rubbing the stomach and patting the head at the same time is an exercise in the inane, don't let that stop you - I know I have better things to do. When an economy starts to falter, one of the first things to go out the window are laws as Detroit or New York City can verify; When a large group of people are purposeless for a long time, they don't care about same-sex marriage, they don't care about equality in the workplace, & they don't care about suing one's employer - what they care about afe food and shelter for their families and themselves.
    Isn't that interesting that a cut in taxes will bring in money as opposed to raising them as every Democrat since then has believed
  • Joanie baboula 2012/07/14 18:46:28
    Joanie
    +1
    You're just jealous because you can't do it!

    Your posting about laws going out the window when a recession hits appears to be nonsense. I don't believe either Detroit or New York threw their laws out the window, or even suspended them, in times of economic downturn.

    The people who don't care about same sex marriage or equality in the workplace, in my experience, are wealthy Republicans, not people at the bottom of the economy.

    It is not at all surprising that reducing marginal tax rates sometimes results in increased government revenue. It does not always, of course.
  • VICTORIA Joanie 2012/07/15 04:07:42
    VICTORIA
    With a full 44 Bills proposed by this GOP majority Congress- and ZERO Bills on jobs or economy-
    I guess the cons are relying on the ignorance of their own party- and not aware that most other Americans have memories.
  • baboula VICTORIA 2012/07/15 16:51:14
    baboula
    faulty memories of the libs
  • baboula Joanie 2012/07/15 16:49:25
    baboula
    Since I am not 10 years old anymore, I really don't care to do it

    It is called a crime rate and all laws can be passed at the speed of light but if there is noone there to enforce them, they serve no purpose.

    When doesn't a tax cut result in more money?
  • Joanie baboula 2012/07/16 17:15:34
    Joanie
    When you are on the upside of the Laffer curve.
  • VICTORIA baboula 2012/07/15 04:05:57
    VICTORIA
    +1
    The Democrats in France? Are you really not ware that this post is not about America, but France?

    Do you know what today is?
    Home schooled maybe?

    bastille day
  • baboula VICTORIA 2012/07/15 16:50:00
    baboula
    what are you talking about?

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