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Should Facebook Take Down Aurora Shooter's Fanpages?

SodaHead News 2012/07/28 20:30:27
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The name James Holmes will forever live in infamy after the accused criminal murdered 12 people with gunfire and wounded many more during a midnight screening of "The Dark Night Rises" in a theater in Aurora, Colorado. Based on various reports following the shootings, it seems as though Holmes planned to become a real life comic book villain. As for other details, those are still scarce and getting inside a psychotic, cold-blooded man's head will be tough for prosecutors.

But getting rid of tasteless content in support of the Colorado shooter; that should be easy for Facebook, right? Not according to a report by CNN.com, which states that there are multiple fanpages for the killer, including one with more than 800 followers [or "likes"]. Facebook isn't like YouTube or message boards, where one can be anonymous. So unless they're using fake aliases and lack profile pictures, Holmes supporters are making themselves known publicly on the fanpage. Maybe they're Internet trolls. They could even be people with the same mental state as Holmes.

Regardless, Facebook won't remove the pages. Company spokesman Fred Wolens explained that the most popular Holmes fanpage "while incredibly distasteful, doesn't violate our terms." In order to be removed, it would have to post credible threats against specific people or intend to incite violence. We agree that free speech should be protected. But this lenient policy seems pretty inconsistent with the numerous stories we've heard over the years of everyday people having photos/content flagged and taken down, at times unfairly.

What do you think SodaHeads? Should Facebook remove the Colorado shooter's fanpages?

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  • thomas.fox.54 2012/07/28 21:24:17
    No
    thomas.fox.54
    +22
    1st amendment. these people are sick, disgusting animals but they have the right to the 1st amendment. i hate censored websites anyway. people need to realize that they share a country with these people and they need to deal with it not pretend that these sick people dont exist

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  • awizard... romneyi... 2012/07/29 14:21:31
    awizardalso
    I voted yes and I now regret it after reading your comment. You have a valid point. To take away a right from all because a 'few' may abuse it is wrong. Real freedom has and always will have its inherent risks and we must either accept those risks or become slaves to a tyrannical government. Still, I think we must deal with those who abuse these rights. The problem is, who gets to make these decisions?
  • romneyi... awizard... 2012/07/29 14:30:05
    romneyisaho
    The constitution allows for laws to be created which are generally majority rule voted on by WE THE PEOPLE.
  • awizard... romneyi... 2012/09/26 14:19:03
    awizardalso
    ...or is it really by 'we the sheeple'? The uneducated who have no (expletive deleted) idea what the founding fathers had in there minds at the time!
  • awizard... romneyi... 2012/09/26 14:21:12
    awizardalso
    Unfortunately, 'We the People' are outnumbered by 'We the Sheeple'. ...and you say they should have the power to dictate what our rights 'mean'?
  • Informe... romneyi... 2012/07/29 14:33:36
    Informed Voter
    You're so right! This is the height of Liberal hypocrisy, since the Constitution doesn't protect HATEFUL speech... and YOU know it!

    There is NO protection for libel, slander, plagiarism, or speech inciting the population to riot! In these instances, there is a very definite limit to such speech.

    Here's your "lesson plan" for LEARNING the meaning of the First Amendment:
    http://www.freedomforum.org/p...

    Are "fighting words" protected? No! (see Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire)

    Is gratuitous obscenity? No! (see Miller v. California, Roth v. United States, and Memoirs v. Massachusetts.)

    Now, imagine if you will, that the audience was filled to capacity with ARMED citizens! Would this moron have gotten off more than one shot? I doubt it! I don't even think he would have had the guts to enter a room with an armed population... just like the fear Government feels when facing an armed population. Which is the INTENT of the 2nd amendment! The people should NEVER have to fear the tyranny of Government. That's why the ultimate check on government MUST be an armed population.

    http://www.guncite.com/journa...
  • romneyi... Informe... 2012/07/29 15:31:08 (edited)
    romneyisaho
    There is no mention of "hateful" speech in the constitution and rarely does any speech rise to the ranks of slander and is enforceable by law.

    You are creating constitutional laws that do not exist to fit your own agenda.

    So then I now create a law that bans all guns- see how that works!
  • Informe... romneyi... 2012/07/29 18:20:20
    Informed Voter
    What do the words, "shall not be infringed." mean? Would you like me to draw you a map?

    Here... read it and weep (Supreme Court Decision on District of Columbia v. Heller):

    Held:
    1. The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a
    firearm unconnected with service in a militia
    , and to use that arm for
    traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
    Pp. 2–53.
    ref: http://www.scotusblog.com/wp-...
  • romneyi... Informe... 2012/07/29 18:57:56
    romneyisaho
    You are changing your statement:

    Show me where it says "hateful" speech is illegal or unlawful or admit you make up stuff that is not in the constitution!
  • Informe... romneyi... 2012/07/29 19:04:19
    Informed Voter
    LOL!!! I'm changing nothing! I merely point out that you are in error and your behavior is totally arrested!
  • romneyi... Informe... 2012/07/29 22:26:07
    romneyisaho
    No you simply exposed that you make stuff up and do not understand the constitution!
  • Informe... romneyi... 2012/07/30 00:00:38 (edited)
    Informed Voter
    Facts, my dear sir, are always the undoing of today's Liberal!

    The words of the Constitution are more plain and understandable then Obama's 2700 page TaxCare Law.

    For instance, did you know that both pro and anti abortion lawmakers can make the claim that ObamaCare either Prohibits or Authorizes federal funds for abortions?

    They'd both be right, because the paragraphs of authorization and prohibition are right next to each other, thus:


    (i) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS
    PROHIBITED.—The services described in this clause are
    abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds
    appropriated for the Department of Health and Human
    Services is not permitted, based on the law as in effect
    as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning
    of the plan year involved.

    (ii) ABORTIONS FOR WHICH PUBLIC FUNDING IS
    ALLOWED.—The services described in this clause are
    abortions for which the expenditure of Federal funds
    appropriated for the Department of Health and Human
    Services is permitted, based on the law as in effect
    as of the date that is 6 months before the beginning
    of the plan year involved.
    page 51 of ObamaCare:
    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/...
  • romneyi... Informe... 2012/07/30 01:03:15
    romneyisaho
    For the last time:

    Show us where it says "hateful" language is unlawful in the constitution or admit you lied.

    Anyone can copy and past but show us you actually know something about the constitution because so far you are embarrasiing yourself miserably!
  • Informe... romneyi... 2012/07/31 00:39:08
    Informed Voter
    Oooo. For the hundreth time... Using Alinsky's rule 5 doesn't work on me, genius! In order to do so, your opinion must be respected by me.

    And quite frankly, it's not! I'm done with you, sock puppet.
  • Informe... romneyi... 2012/07/31 00:39:48
    Informed Voter
    Hmm... Apparently, so was SH!
  • Twinky 2012/07/29 12:09:18
    No
    Twinky
    Facebook are not a moral or political organisation.
    Don't get me wrong this is disgusting, but the fact that something is offensive should not, in itself be the sole reason to remove it. - I might find kittens offensive!
  • Playerazzi 2012/07/29 11:56:58 (edited)
    Yes
    Playerazzi
    The fact that he has fan pages is a factor in encouraging his act (ex-post facto), and encouraging others to do something similar.

    The public's right to safety trumps free speech any time.
  • romneyi... Playerazzi 2012/07/29 12:31:51
    romneyisaho
    Isn't free speech protected by the constitution just like gun rights ?
  • kenneth... romneyi... 2012/07/29 12:55:13
    kenneth.t.leathers
    Duh someone already said that!
  • romneyi... kenneth... 2012/07/29 13:10:55
    romneyisaho
    Then why would you want to take away that right ?
  • kenneth... romneyi... 2012/08/11 12:46:54 (edited)
    kenneth.t.leathers
    I don't want to take away the right to bare arms just certain kind of weapon. Like weapons of mass destruction. If your a law abided citizen & pay your taxes then what need do you have for a weapon of that magnitude?
  • Playerazzi romneyi... 2012/07/29 18:27:37
    Playerazzi
    Well, gun rights are stupid, and need to go. Just stupid.

    Free speech does not inlclude threats to a person. If it puts someone in danger, that person's right to be safe and secure trumps free speech.
  • Franklin Playerazzi 2012/07/29 13:05:22
    Franklin
    so are you still humping Obama's leg even after he said you should go back to the 65 borders ? once you give up the right to free speech all else will follow!
  • Playerazzi Franklin 2012/07/29 18:26:17
    Playerazzi
    Sorry, you lost me there.
  • Franklin Playerazzi 2012/08/01 11:24:33
    Franklin
    I would think that affairs in Israel and Obama's commitment to seeing that nation fall would be more important to you than changing some of this nations oldest laws ….
  • Christopher Kirchen 2012/07/29 11:46:29
    Yes
    Christopher Kirchen
    Murderers shouldn't have fans, or if they do, they shouldn't show their sickness where victims can see it.
  • romneyi... Christo... 2012/07/29 12:32:05
    romneyisaho
    Isn't free speech protected by the constitution just like gun rights ?
  • Christo... romneyi... 2012/07/29 12:36:42
    Christopher Kirchen
    Do you really think that's what this is about? Murderers SHOULDN'T GET ADULATION AND PUBLICITY.
  • romneyi... Christo... 2012/07/29 12:43:58
    romneyisaho
    The constitutional law that protects free speech is not just the speech you agree with!
  • Christo... romneyi... 2012/07/29 12:46:34
    Christopher Kirchen
    When that phrase applies to liberals not squelching Fox, Rush Limbaugh, and other conservative influences, I'll accept it.
  • romneyi... Christo... 2012/07/29 13:14:27
    romneyisaho
    Speaking out against others free speech is also protected. Rush is still on the air and he lost many advertisers. That is a consequence of irresponsible free speech.
  • Franklin romneyi... 2012/07/29 13:09:34
    Franklin
    and yet you will be on the other side of this issue when its not to your liking ....nice spin Obama2012 ...lets see how long before your new avatar gets banned-
  • romneyi... Franklin 2012/07/29 13:12:54
    romneyisaho
    No I will defend your right with my life to your freedom of speech even if I disagree with it.
  • Franklin Franklin 2012/08/01 11:27:06
    Franklin
    I knew that was you - trying to come back with a new name ....still not going to turn you in but You won't last long kid you will be found out and banned again.
  • awizard... romneyi... 2012/07/29 14:27:04
    awizardalso
    Maybe not, but yelling "FIRE" in a public place can have you charged with 'inducing panic'. Free speech has limitations. As much as it disgusts me, as long as they aren't 'calling others to violence', they have the right to do so.
  • Franklin Christo... 2012/07/29 13:08:23
    Franklin
    why not ? El Che fan pages are a good recruiting tool for Obama ! O I see its only GOOD when it does not reflect badly on liberals ! LOL@double standard !
  • Sexuallobster 2012/07/29 11:32:02
  • Franklin Sexuall... 2012/07/29 13:12:16
    Franklin
    but that is what is great about liberals ! in any year they will be both FOR and AGAINST free speech .... James Holmes fan page Rush limbo
  • Sexuall... Franklin 2012/08/01 10:55:44
    Sexuallobster
    It's really annoying to be completely honest
  • Franklin Sexuall... 2012/08/01 11:31:47
    Franklin
    defending free speech often means defending things I don't like ...it is true that my friends and family on the left have a sliding scale for what they will defend and what they will say is to much "free speech"
  • Spe168 2012/07/29 11:17:30
    Yes
    Spe168
    +2
    for sure

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