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Should Facebook Take Down Aurora Shooter's Fanpages?

SodaHead News 2012/07/28 20:30:27
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The name James Holmes will forever live in infamy after the accused criminal murdered 12 people with gunfire and wounded many more during a midnight screening of "The Dark Night Rises" in a theater in Aurora, Colorado. Based on various reports following the shootings, it seems as though Holmes planned to become a real life comic book villain. As for other details, those are still scarce and getting inside a psychotic, cold-blooded man's head will be tough for prosecutors.

But getting rid of tasteless content in support of the Colorado shooter; that should be easy for Facebook, right? Not according to a report by CNN.com, which states that there are multiple fanpages for the killer, including one with more than 800 followers [or "likes"]. Facebook isn't like YouTube or message boards, where one can be anonymous. So unless they're using fake aliases and lack profile pictures, Holmes supporters are making themselves known publicly on the fanpage. Maybe they're Internet trolls. They could even be people with the same mental state as Holmes.

Regardless, Facebook won't remove the pages. Company spokesman Fred Wolens explained that the most popular Holmes fanpage "while incredibly distasteful, doesn't violate our terms." In order to be removed, it would have to post credible threats against specific people or intend to incite violence. We agree that free speech should be protected. But this lenient policy seems pretty inconsistent with the numerous stories we've heard over the years of everyday people having photos/content flagged and taken down, at times unfairly.

What do you think SodaHeads? Should Facebook remove the Colorado shooter's fanpages?

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  • thomas.fox.54 2012/07/28 21:24:17
    No
    thomas.fox.54
    +22
    1st amendment. these people are sick, disgusting animals but they have the right to the 1st amendment. i hate censored websites anyway. people need to realize that they share a country with these people and they need to deal with it not pretend that these sick people dont exist

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  • Yvette Walker 2012/07/29 17:09:13
    Yes
    Yvette Walker
    Did Osama had a fan page? Why waste ur time and energy on?
  • ssmithix 2012/07/29 16:59:05
    No
    ssmithix
    Do they use their real names? Leave it up and open season on these Creeps
  • imsmarter 2012/07/29 16:46:50
    Yes
    imsmarter
    +1
    I checked one out, and I have to be honest... It really upset me to see people "glorifying" a psychopath. I infuriated me to see people writing stupid things like "Going to see the dark night rises with James Holmes". It's not funny, it's not okay. Those were real people he shot, that was a real 6 year old he murdered. He really shot a pregnant woman in the stomach. This is not a joking matter. He should not be glorified! This is just another reason to lose faith in humanity.
  • Ashley imsmarter 2012/08/03 23:28:53
    Ashley
    I read that the pregnant woman, whom was also the mother of the dead six-year-old, lost her baby. Like what my mom said, "Honey, and believe when I tell you this, there are some sick, evil people in this world".
  • imsmarter Ashley 2012/08/04 01:24:07
    imsmarter
    That has got to be so devastating. They were only going to the movies. =(
  • Ashley imsmarter 2012/08/05 00:30:36
    Ashley
    It's a shame we can't go back in time to stop the people from attending the movie, or arrest the killer.
  • Ashley 2012/07/29 16:43:34
    Yes
    Ashley
    +1
    The pages support the murderer. Freedom of speech or whatever doesn't matter, that is sick and wrong and he devestated families. How could anyone be so demented to support this thing?
  • kissyfacespree1 2012/07/29 16:42:50
    Yes
    kissyfacespree1
    I guess everyone has their own opinion...but supporting the shooter?? Honestly, why are you in this country if you are a fan of this???
  • Jackal 2012/07/29 16:40:05
    No
    Jackal
    Freedom of speech. Yes it is insensitive, and yes many people don't like it and it is sick and disgusting, no different than the Klu Klux Klan. We still have to value the first amendment.
  • Christo... Jackal 2012/07/29 20:40:37
    Christopher Kirchen
    No freedom is absolute, including freedom of speech. If you doubt me ask yourself, how many freedoms do we allegedly have that you've thought, "I'm glad that doesn't include____" and don't get all pious on me, you know you've thought it, even if it's just about my freedom to say what I'm saying right now.
  • Jackal Christo... 2012/07/30 04:04:49
    Jackal
    I think you are agreeing with me...
  • KarenInKenoshaWisconsin 2012/07/29 16:38:55
    Yes
    KarenInKenoshaWisconsin
    For the Greater Good and Public Safety (Life and Death Situations)

    I believe in "the least restrictive alternative" and find that shutting down pages that glorify the guy and encourage like behaviors are within that realm of unprotected speech.
  • Jackal KarenIn... 2012/07/29 16:43:52
    Jackal
    +1
    If you sacrifice security over freedom, you deserve neither.
  • KarenIn... Jackal 2012/08/01 00:16:47
    KarenInKenoshaWisconsin
    Normally, I like such a quote or one of its derivatives.

    However, why then do we have The Least Restrictive Alternative Principle in law? Because some people treat quotes, ideals and ideas as absolutes, no matter what? There have been exceptions to absolute freedom of speech since the beginning. In this case, the danger of copycat mass murder is very high. That puts taking the page down in the best interests of the public. People want to go to the movies or the mall without getting shot up and killed.

    It's a matter of life and death.
  • whateverbabynevermind 2012/07/29 16:17:25
    No
    whateverbabynevermind
    While it honestly pains me to see people make light of this vicious psychopath, infringing on other people's rights will hardly help the victims.
  • Vision of Verve 2012/07/29 16:05:45
  • Rich Knoch 2012/07/29 15:37:44
    Yes
    Rich Knoch
    +1
    As that famous philosopher, Forrest Gump said; STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!

    Does America have a thoroughly demented sub-culture of wackoids . . . . YES!
  • Turn the Tide 2012/07/29 15:36:52 (edited)
    Yes
    Turn the Tide
    But only after his trial with the verdict of guilty at which point in time crazy man will have little to no rights outside of jail or outside the mental ward.
  • Outta' Here. 2012/07/29 15:34:09
    Yes
    Outta' Here.
    And Sodahead should stopping posting this attention whore's image as well.
  • Barbara 2012/07/29 15:33:12
    Yes
    Barbara
    Why does he have a fanpage to begin with?
  • VaginaDentata 2012/07/29 15:30:57
    Yes
    VaginaDentata
    Free Speech is protected by the Constitution and I believe in anyone's right to speak freely...but I am not obligated to hand anyone the microphone. Facebook is not obligated to provide a platform for Holmes' fans.

    If the question were "Should Holmes fans' personal websites be removed from the internet?" then I would have to say no.
  • Barbi Rose 2012/07/29 15:28:21
    Yes
    Barbi Rose
    Like we need more nutz running around. The more press you give nutz the more they grow roots.
  • meg 2012/07/29 15:25:39
    No
    meg
    Freedom of expression.
  • Dogzebra 2012/07/29 15:25:07
    Yes
    Dogzebra
    I've noticed things disappear on SH that were much less despicable. If anything counts for good taste, then it should be taken down. People truly supporting Holmes, shows just how sick people can become.
  • John Horse 2012/07/29 15:15:01
    No
    John Horse
    I don't think anybodys pages should be taken down for any reason.That is what the FIRST AMENDMENT is all about.There are pure NUT CASES out there BUT WE THE PEOPLE CAN DEAL WITH THEM.Right now there are so called conservative blogs that will not put up a post if it degrades the pile of pig scat that now sits in OUR White House.THAT IS REMOVING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to FREEDOM OF SPEECH.So to take down or remove ANY pages that anybody has written to be posted is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.The NUT CASE in D.C. wants to REMOVE OUR CONSTITUTION. NOW that IS something to be REALLY CONCERENED ABOUT,if they are able to REMOVE ANY PART OF OUR CONSTITUTION for ANY REASON then this COUNTRY IS SCREWED as well as EVERYBODY IN IT.The NUT CASES (and there are a lot of them) will be delt with at some point,BUT leave the Constitution and ALL PARTS of it ALONE OUR COUNTRY CAN NOT SURVIVE WITH EVEN ONE LINE MISSING.
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  • Sopinum 2012/07/29 15:02:05
    No
    Sopinum
    It's awful that there's a fan page supporting Holmes, but it's free speech.
    We can't hide this and act like it never happened. We're just going to have to accept the fact that there will be murderers and there will be the people that support them.
    Whether we like it or not, we can't help it.
  • Ken 2012/07/29 14:49:30
    Yes
    Ken
    This hysteria that the people have to know every detail needs to stop, why do you think these nuts do this? ATTENTION, ATTENTION, ATTENTION........
  • Zero Harte~King of Nothing~ 2012/07/29 14:39:53
    No
    Zero Harte~King of Nothing~
    Everyone has the right to an opinion, even an unpopular one.
    Isn't that what this site is kind of about?
    Let the tards have their fanpages, it'll die out soon enough.
  • DougE 2012/07/29 14:21:22
    No
    DougE
    they should be ignored and they will go away. That's what this guy and other sickos like him want, fame.
  • ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/07/29 14:14:56
    No
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    No! Let's find out what pieces of crap are in the mindset of "liking" something so despicable and then we have a better idea of what we are dealing with.
  • Blank Blank Blank 2012/07/29 14:14:42
  • Sew 2012/07/29 13:58:32
    No
    Sew
    There are two seperate issues here. One being the First Admendment the other being the terms of use that the company(Facebook) and it's customers agreed too. I think freedom of speech part doesn't need explaining but the terms of agreement part does. If Facebook were to just remove the page w/o reason they could face legal action as it a breach in agreement. They can't violate there terms anymore then the customer can.
  • Arel 2012/07/29 13:50:36
    Yes
    Arel
    and no. It is the fans right to post what they want but as a private company Facebook could choose to shut them down. What the hell is wrong with people?
  • Waldorf 2012/07/29 13:50:06
    No
    Waldorf
    Who feels the need and why? Isn't that just controlling? I can see some merit in denying him and future crazies the prospect of getting so much attention, but pages started by someone else would be a matter of freedom.
  • TasselLady 2012/07/29 13:21:01
    Yes
    TasselLady
    It's disgusting that there is one in the first place.
    for shame
  • Mindy 2012/07/29 13:10:22
    Yes
    Mindy
    Absolutely.
  • Mindy Mindy 2012/07/29 13:14:08
    Mindy
    +1
    I find it piss poor that Facebook will remove my autistic sons page when the wrst thing he has done was liked spongebob, bob the builder, icarly, big time rush, victorious, pizza, trains, etc. yet they allow that garbage. HYPOCRITICAL MUCH?!
  • Franklin 2012/07/29 13:03:25
    No
    Franklin
    its no worse than the fan pages by terrorist like 99% , occupy and Obama 2012 !
  • romneyisaho 2012/07/29 12:31:32 (edited)
    No
    romneyisaho
    +1
    Now this is the epitome of hypocrisy!

    You want to take away a persons freedom of speech because they have a twisted fan page but you won't take away automatic and semi automatic military weapons so these mass killings stop ?

    Isn't free speech protected by the constitution just like gun rights ?

    Why then is one constitutional law any better than another ?

    trampling the constitution
  • Sew romneyi... 2012/07/29 13:59:31
    Sew
    +1
    bing-go!

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