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Should children be taken away from parents with certain political or religious views?

Rusty Shackleford 2012/02/05 01:07:51
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I have seen, on other polls, people advocating the state taking children away from parents who are instilling their children with political and religious viewpoints that they disagree with.

I personally find this offensive. I do NOT believe the state has any business in how people raise their children and I would NEVER advocate removing children from a home with witch I disagree with the political and religious views of the parents.


I have also heard recent calls for the government to take children away from their parents if the child is overweight. This is an outrage.
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  • Jack's Pearl 2012/02/05 01:13:10
    No - The government has no business mandating how people raise their children.
    Jack's Pearl
    +11
    If a child is not abused, it is not the business of the law.

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  • ehrhornp 2012/02/15 03:59:36
    Yes - People who instill their children with certain viewpoints I oppose shou...
    ehrhornp
    I would add that parents who have provided a negative living environment should have their children taken away. Parents who beat the hell out of their kids because they are possessed by Satan is an example. Parents who feed their kids nothing but junk food. That case of that young boy who was grossly overweight is probably justified.

    Actually I think kids would be taken away from parents who do not have basic standards of raising a child.
  • Rusty S... ehrhornp 2012/02/15 05:44:53
    Rusty Shackleford
    Should people have to pass some sort of basic educational class and show that their home is safe for rasing a child first?
  • ehrhornp Rusty S... 2012/02/15 07:47:02
    ehrhornp
    If they have a history of stupidity, yes.
  • Rusty S... ehrhornp 2012/02/15 12:56:24
    Rusty Shackleford
    Would you support licensing people in order to make sure they are able to provide a healthy and positive environment for the raising of children?
  • ehrhornp Rusty S... 2012/02/15 15:48:21
    ehrhornp
    No I don't support the need of parents to be licensed. Most parents probably do an acceptible job of raising children so don't see the need of licensing them. But the raising of a child in a toxic environment, that is something else and should be stopped when discovered. That grossly overweight kid was a perfect example.
  • Rusty S... ehrhornp 2012/02/15 17:18:00
    Rusty Shackleford
    Well, what about all of the toxic conditions that go undiscovered, shouldn't there be some sort of inspection process for the sake of the children?
  • ehrhornp Rusty S... 2012/02/15 19:24:10
    ehrhornp
    There are already. Try beating your kid in public and sees what happens. Try homeschooling your kid and only teach them propaganda. See how long that lasts.
  • Rusty S... ehrhornp 2012/02/15 19:25:27
    Rusty Shackleford
    +1
    So I'm free to raise my children, but only as long as I meet your approval?
  • ehrhornp Rusty S... 2012/02/15 19:33:46
    ehrhornp
    You are free to raise your children as long as you do not abuse them. Has nothing to do with me. I have no control over your raising of your kids. Your neighbors might take exception to you beating your kids and if you home school your kids the government might not allow religious propaganda to pass as science.
  • Rusty S... ehrhornp 2012/02/15 19:36:51
    Rusty Shackleford
    +1
    The government has no authority over what I teach my children. Since my children already know how to load, aim and fire, the government will have a hard time interfering in our affairs.
  • ehrhornp Rusty S... 2012/02/15 19:39:47
    ehrhornp
    Your kid might have a hard time getting a HS diploma not to mention a college education. Would hate to try to make it through life without these today.
  • Rusty S... ehrhornp 2012/02/15 19:43:41
    Rusty Shackleford
    +1
    Wow, you're really smart, you know so much about my children and their education. It's a good thing people like you have the power to regulate how other people raise their children. Just think about how awful this country would be if people were free to make their own decisions in life.
  • ehrhornp Rusty S... 2012/02/15 20:30:37
    ehrhornp
    Since when have people been totally free to make their own decisions? Hell your republican hero, Rick Santorum only wants sex to produce kids between a married couple and nothing more. And he would do away with contraception. Don't you dare talk to me about freedom. The GOP is nothing but anti-freedom.
  • Rusty S... ehrhornp 2012/02/16 22:13:20
    Rusty Shackleford
    Have you actually fallen for the Democrat lies that Republicans want to ban contraception?
  • ehrhornp Rusty S... 2012/02/16 22:30:41
    ehrhornp
    I only go by what you republicans say and do. Your hero Rick says sex is only for procreation and only between husband and wife. I don't think Mitt is much different. Do you know what your party stands for?
  • Rusty S... ehrhornp 2012/02/16 22:41:03
    Rusty Shackleford
    +1
    Are you able to quote a Republican saying that he wants to ban contaception? Or are you really basing your opinion on left wing media spin?
  • ehrhornp Rusty S... 2012/02/16 23:23:36
    ehrhornp
    Are you unaware of what happened in Georgia I think? The most conservative state in the union voted down a personhood amendment precisely because it could outlaw contraception. Way to go republicans.
  • Rusty S... ehrhornp 2012/02/17 02:21:43
    Rusty Shackleford
    +1
    So your answer to my previous question is no.

    A personhood amendment would not have outlawed contrceptives, you know that.
  • ehrhornp Rusty S... 2012/02/17 02:27:45
    ehrhornp
    No I don't know that. Get some slick attorney in there and even water could be outlawed.
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/02/07 18:13:50
    I want to give a wishy-washy answer and try to sound intelligent at the same ...
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    It depends. If the child is emotionally unbalanced because of the things parents are teaching them, perhaps they could be advised to take parenting courses or anger management or whatever they need, and if they still have big problems the child could be taken away for a time, but only in extreme circumstances.
  • Rusty S... Anonymo... 2012/02/07 19:57:22
    Rusty Shackleford
    Who would you have determine those circumstances?
  • Anonymo... Rusty S... 2012/02/08 15:38:29
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    Perhaps a series of referenda to find the public's view. Definitely not the government, if that's what you thought I meant.
  • Rusty S... Anonymo... 2012/02/08 19:38:12 (edited)
    Rusty Shackleford
    I disagree, I am not subject to the "popular view" when it comes to teaching my children my political and religious views.

    Are you willing to subject yourself to that authority?
  • Anonymo... Rusty S... 2012/02/08 20:32:04
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    If it damages children, yes. And you wouldn't be subject to the popular view, it would only be if something is found to be classed as abuse by a large amount of voters. Christianity would be safe, but the WBC may forcibly lose a few younger members unless they stop teaching their children harmful things. The way you speak sounds like you think a child is the property of their parent to do whatever with. Do you actually believe this?
  • Rusty S... Anonymo... 2012/02/08 21:00:18
    Rusty Shackleford
    Property? No. But the FULL responsibility of? Yes.

    If the government was going to try and take my children away because of my political or religious views, someone is going to die.

    I respect your freedom to raise your children the way you think is best, I wish you would offer me the same courtesy.

    Some people believe that Christianity damages children, with your point of view, once more than 50% of the voters believe that, Christianity is as good as outlawed.
  • Anonymo... Rusty S... 2012/02/09 00:16:24 (edited)
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    Some people believe that. I would set it as illegal when 75% population see it as harmful to children, very few ideals would be banned, like the WBC, radical islam, etc. So you think turning children into 'Fag' hating monsters is within a parent's right to have them believe that? You think that if perhaps a parent wanted to take their son to a strip club it would be okay? Do you think it's okay for a Jehovah's witness to refuse their child a life saving blood transfusion? Do you see it as within the parent's rights to refuse to give their child medical help, instead relying on so called 'faith healing'? If so, I wouldn't like to be your child...
  • Rusty S... Anonymo... 2012/02/09 00:19:39
    Rusty Shackleford
    "Do you think it's okay for a Jehovah's witness to refuse their child a life saving blood transfusion?"

    Yes.
  • Anonymo... Rusty S... 2012/02/09 00:28:41
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    So you do think that a child is effectively the property of their parent, to do whatever the hell they like with. I find your beliefs quite sad, that you see nothing wrong with a parent enforcing passive euthanasia on their child because it's against the parent's religion to save them. I believe children should be protected at all means possible, even if that means taking them away from their parents so they straighten up their act. However, I must respect your opinion, good day :).
  • Rusty S... Anonymo... 2012/02/09 00:37:54
    Rusty Shackleford
    Do you believe that a child is the property of the state?

    If the government wants to do something to a child and the parents object, should the government prevail?
  • Anonymo... Rusty S... 2012/02/09 17:06:05
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    No, but I don't think children are a right, but a privilege, and if you don't treat them well, they should be taken into the custody of the state. In this country, it is taken to court, where the judge can rule that the child should be taken into the protection of the state. The government don't have the say about it.
  • Rusty S... Anonymo... 2012/02/09 23:39:00
    Rusty Shackleford
    HOLY CRAP !

    YOU BELIEVE HAVING CHILDREN ISN'T A RIGHT BUT A PRIVILEGE ?????

    You also believe that the judge isn't the government?

    You have now officially shown that you are a moron. In fact, I don't believe anyone can be this stupid, you are just a troll and I am done with you.
  • Anonymo... Rusty S... 2012/02/10 18:18:05
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    I'm stupid??? You have just told me that you think a parent should be able to decide whether their child dies or not! And you say I'm the troll?!
  • Arel 2012/02/06 18:12:15
    No - The government has no business mandating how people raise their children.
    Arel
    +1
    That is not their job.
  • Thomas Bryant 2012/02/06 02:35:01
    Yes - People who instill their children with certain viewpoints I oppose shou...
    Thomas Bryant
    I meant no.
  • American☆Atheist 2012/02/05 23:29:15
    Yes - People who instill their children with certain viewpoints I oppose shou...
    American☆Atheist
    if they are nuts
  • Rusty S... America... 2012/02/06 02:23:00
    Rusty Shackleford
    +1
    Who determines if they are nuts? Youi?
  • America... Rusty S... 2012/02/06 02:28:41
    American☆Atheist
    common sense.
  • Rusty S... America... 2012/02/06 02:55:07
    Rusty Shackleford
    +1
    So if you think they're nuts, you would want to take their children away?
  • America... Rusty S... 2012/02/06 03:08:50
  • Rusty S... America... 2012/02/06 03:29:23
    Rusty Shackleford
    I recognize your right to raise your children the way you see fit, it is obvious you don't extend me the same courtesy.

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