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Should Child Circumcision Be Allowed?

SodaHead News 2012/06/28 22:50:47
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Circumcision has been a religious tradition for many years, but has often been the subject of controversy because of the effect it could potentially have on children. On Tuesday, a German court ruled that child circumcision can be classified as "grievous bodily harm." The issue went to court when a 4-year-old boy began bleeding profusely as the result of a circumcision. Naturally, religious communities that practice circumcision are upset.

The court ruled, "[The] fundamental right of the child to bodily integrity outweighed the fundamental rights of the parents ... The religious freedom of the parents and their right to educate their child would not be unacceptably compromised, if they were obliged to wait until the child could himself decide to be circumcised."

In response, the head of the Central Committee of Jews said the ruling is "an unprecedented and dramatic intervention in the right of religious communities to self-determination ... [an] outrageous and insensitive act. Circumcision of newborn boys is a fixed part of the Jewish religion and has been practiced worldwide for centuries."

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  • xcheshirecat 2012/06/28 23:19:19
    No
    xcheshirecat
    +41
    religious freedom is about the baby's religion. I don't see how he can have one at that age...

    Baby have the right, like any other human, of body integrity

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  • Sarah T... Kenny 2012/06/29 19:46:37
    Sarah TH Marshall Switcher
    No, I am not comparing the two in terms of invasiveness. As I said, the similarities between the two are that neither is a necessary procedure, but the number of adults who complain that their parents did it while they were babies is low as compared to the number of people who are glad.
  • Tortois... Sarah T... 2012/06/30 05:49:38
    TortoiseWrath
    Every man is born with a foreskin. The same cannot be said for extra fingers, toes, and/or tails.
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/29 19:13:53
    Yes
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    Notice that most of the ones who oppose circumcision of a baby also SUPPORT the murder of a partially born baby.

    Leftwing hypocrisy.
  • Dan Seely Torchma... 2012/06/29 19:25:11
    Dan Seely
    +2
    The question really is do pro-life people, who are also pro-circumcision of infants, also promote forcible circumcision of intact males against their wills with no palliative measures taken?
  • Dan Seely Torchma... 2012/06/29 19:29:11
    Dan Seely
    +2
    That would be the ultimate in hypocrisy especially for Christians who are instructed by Christ and others in the New Testament to eschew Male Genital Mutilation. Why is it that so many far right Christians are so in favor of all the harsh barbaric measures in the Old Testament?
  • Delanea... Torchma... 2012/06/29 19:36:38
    Delanea Dunford
    +2
    Thanks, I fight for the rights of all children, before and after birth.
  • Kenny Torchma... 2012/06/29 19:45:47
    Kenny
    Funny how much in common you have with the taliban
  • Chair Arms 2012/06/29 19:10:01
    Yes
    Chair Arms
    Yeah, sure.

    It's good there is an openness for the child's interests, but there are rules to ownership. If you want something done, as it is your right to do so as a parent when not hurting the child in any way different than anything else done surgically, do it correctly and safely. I mean, wisdom teeth can be bloody messes, too; I would prefer to have it done as well. Maintenance is key for the prevention of disasters. And for the record, naturally, anything disrupting tradition will create response; was it really necessary to point that out? Seriously, the diction of this topic like many I've read on this website upsets me. Refrain from exposing your feelings on a discussion when you create a topic, especially in voting; I hate it.
  • Rodrigo... Chair Arms 2012/06/29 19:12:27
    Rodrigo Girão
    +4
    Ownership? So a child is cattle now?
  • Chair Arms Rodrigo... 2012/07/16 22:13:32
    Chair Arms
    Go ahead and jump to the end on this one; be loud, I hope you get the agreeing, outraged reaction you're looking for. No, children are not cattle; I do not see them as cattle. I see parents doing what they want for their child, not implying they mean to torment or hurt him/her and assuming it's in the best interests. Heard of child ownership? That is legal parenting. Pardon my mentioning if it goes far-fetched, but I see disregarding life in matters of abortion as cattle representation--butchering. I see people freaking out about a dumpster-baby, but find it alright to kill a baby a few months early. It's the potential that gets thrown away. For circumcision, if done safely and correctly, I don't see harm done! I see potential still existing! It's a tradition, old practice, religion, preference--whatever! There are more upsetting things that deserve more attention here; the more we keep outlawing stuff that makes us a meaningful and respectful world, the less interesting and influential we'll become--and it's already getting bad.
  • Dan Seely Chair Arms 2012/06/29 19:35:30
    Dan Seely
    +1
    Children are not Chattel. This is not the parents' or the family's or any religion's penis. One cannot state this in more basic terms!
  • ▼♥☆Gree... Chair Arms 2012/06/29 19:43:05
    ▼♥☆Greencone☆♥▼ PB90s
    +2
    This is actually a false analogy because you are comparing what happens to what should happen and what does happen is not always what should happen even if people think it is what should happen and just because something is a tradition does not make it ok. Try to compare an is to other ises and oughts to oughts. Also I agree we should avoid hypocrisy but I think the way we should avoid hypocrisy is to ban all those other things you mentioned such as piercing childrens ears and forskin is not an extra part but is a part of most male penises.
  • Chair Arms ▼♥☆Gree... 2012/07/16 21:06:17
    Chair Arms
    Hmm, I was misleading; I meant not to suggest circumcision was a necessity, but a preference I would have done, like how wisdom-teeth removal can be a necessity and is also something I'd prefer to have done. Point stands on being careful about what surgeries you want done for your child, though. And no, this does not suggest going as far as manipulating any physical features of an infant. Dare I mention de-forming a cleft-lip or reversing a belly-button formation, but I still feel those examples go too far.
  • jcadla 2012/06/29 19:07:18
  • Delanea... jcadla 2012/06/29 19:13:04
    Delanea Dunford
    +6
    Rare? No, that's not true. 117 infants die annually. 400-500 have their penis amputated. Tens of thousands have botched circumcisions. This is just in the USA. Worldwide, the rates of complications and death are higher. Not my body, not my choice to remove healthy, functional body parts. Plain and simple. To justify such a thing in the name of religion is a serious human rights violation. If we allowed circumcision of females for religious reasons, there would be outrage. Why the double standard?
  • Rodrigo... jcadla 2012/06/29 19:16:12
    Rodrigo Girão
    +5
    Since we don't live in a theocracy, your faith and your thousands of years are irrelevant. The objective facts are all that matter, and the facts are: circumcision is harmful, and you should not perform unnecessary body modifications on people who have not consented to it.
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2012/06/29 19:05:41
    Yes
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    +2
    This is a Jewish religious tradition that goes back several millennium.
  • Rodrigo... ☆stillt... 2012/06/29 19:20:34
    Rodrigo Girão
    +5
    Tradition can't justify child abuse.
  • Kenny ☆stillt... 2012/06/29 19:47:29
    Kenny
    +1
    Yes and it should be banned. Thousand years too long for this barbaric act. This is something I'd actually be willing to go to war for. Not oil and money.
  • ☆stillt... Kenny 2012/06/29 20:20:19 (edited)
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    If it is your decision not to have it done to your children that is your choice, but do not interfere with other decision which does not concern you. I bet that you support abortions don't you.
  • Dan Seely ☆stillt... 2012/06/29 21:08:59
    Dan Seely
    +1
    I don't support abortion or your right to have another adult "sexually assault" your child.
  • ☆stillt... Dan Seely 2012/06/29 21:20:24
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    Having a young boy circumcised is not a sexual assault.
  • mauigeorge 2012/06/29 19:05:24
    No
    mauigeorge
    +12
    All children have a right to be "whole"! Any form of genital mutalation (circumcision) is child abuse! Circumcision should be illegal for little boys as it is for little girls otherwise it is discrimination.
  • jaxgal 2012/06/29 19:05:02
  • shaltov72 2012/06/29 19:02:26
    Yes
    shaltov72
    Yea wait till you are older see how it feels, it is healthier and safer, less chance of infecttions also!
  • Delanea... shaltov72 2012/06/29 19:13:26
    Delanea Dunford
    +2
    No, that's completely false.
    http://www.psychologytoday.co...
  • BConthe... shaltov72 2012/06/29 19:33:06
    BContheprarie
    +4
    HAHAHA ok you keep telling yourself that, but only 20% of the world populace is circumcised , that means the other 80% of men get along just fine being intact. Circumcision is cosmetic surgery it has no real health benefits. HIS BODY HIS CHOICE
  • Kenny shaltov72 2012/06/29 19:48:02
    Kenny
    I'm 33 and doing just fine!
  • Dan Seely shaltov72 2012/06/29 21:16:04
    Dan Seely
    No infections at all if misguided adults and pedophiles would keep their grubby hands off of childrens' genitals!
  • Dan Seely shaltov72 2012/06/29 21:18:11
    Dan Seely
    No infections at all if misguided adults and pedophiles would keep their grubby hands off of childrens' genitals!
  • Josh Robinson 2012/06/29 19:00:01 (edited)
    Yes
    Josh Robinson
    +1
    I rather like that I'm circumcised and I would NOT... NOT... NOT.... want to have it done as a child or an adult so... where does that leave us..? kosher pork rinds
  • Rodrigo... Josh Ro... 2012/06/29 19:05:34 (edited)
    Rodrigo Girão
    +2
    You can't deal with the consequences when you can choose to get it, so let's force kids to get it and deal with the consequences. Genius!
  • Josh Ro... Rodrigo... 2012/06/29 19:12:27 (edited)
  • Rodrigo... Josh Ro... 2012/06/29 19:22:19
    Rodrigo Girão
    +1
    It can only go as "well" as any amputation can go well...
  • Josh Ro... Rodrigo... 2012/06/29 19:35:34
    Josh Robinson
    I'm guessing they botched yours aye...? Jonny J-hook...?
  • Delanea... Josh Ro... 2012/06/29 19:38:35
    Delanea Dunford
    Well of course you're going to say your penis is awesome. Too bad you wouldn't know the difference and what you're missing.
  • Josh Ro... Delanea... 2012/06/29 19:47:27
    Josh Robinson
    Which can be said for the opposite can it not...?
  • Rodrigo... Josh Ro... 2012/06/29 19:54:54
    Rodrigo Girão
    +1
    Well, I've read a ton of testimonials from women who say they get far, far more pleasure from intact men.

    Here: http://pastebin.com/5HDmRL1p
  • Josh Ro... Rodrigo... 2012/06/29 20:00:20
    Josh Robinson
    The last 3 women I lived with (2-5yrs each) say they hate foreskin and will have their children cut... My life has been different than that internet article... this happens a lot that life is different than an internet article.
  • BConthe... Josh Ro... 2012/06/29 19:37:03
    BContheprarie
    +3
    Since your cut then you don't know any different and basically your saying is everything still functions so your happy but what about those who have suffered a botched circumcision and things don't function properly or at all, or what about the infants that die every year or how about the ones who have there penis amputated , what so you say to that? I now what I say his body his choice

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