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Should Child Circumcision Be Allowed?

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Circumcision has been a religious tradition for many years, but has often been the subject of controversy because of the effect it could potentially have on children. On Tuesday, a German court ruled that child circumcision can be classified as "grievous bodily harm." The issue went to court when a 4-year-old boy began bleeding profusely as the result of a circumcision. Naturally, religious communities that practice circumcision are upset.

The court ruled, "[The] fundamental right of the child to bodily integrity outweighed the fundamental rights of the parents ... The religious freedom of the parents and their right to educate their child would not be unacceptably compromised, if they were obliged to wait until the child could himself decide to be circumcised."

In response, the head of the Central Committee of Jews said the ruling is "an unprecedented and dramatic intervention in the right of religious communities to self-determination ... [an] outrageous and insensitive act. Circumcision of newborn boys is a fixed part of the Jewish religion and has been practiced worldwide for centuries."


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  • xcheshirecat 2012/06/28 23:19:19
    No
    xcheshirecat
    +41
    religious freedom is about the baby's religion. I don't see how he can have one at that age...

    Baby have the right, like any other human, of body integrity

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  • ticlo7 Rodrigo... 2012/07/02 16:49:47
    ticlo7
    Depends, children can be a lot more mature then they appear. It's just assumed that none of them can make their own decisions.
  • Angryfa... ticlo7 2012/07/02 19:10:11
    Angryface01
    Would you then decide that a minor should be allowed legally to get tattoos, piercings, or to have gender-reassignment surgery?
  • ticlo7 Angryfa... 2012/07/02 20:43:04
    ticlo7
    Yes, if they want to do it I'd explain to them the correct age to have that sort of thing done. When that age comes, I'd explain the implications, pros/cons etc... and then if they still want to go through with it, they can.

    Being at an age where I've just exited the age group that would come under 'child', I know children can be a lot more mature with these kind of things than they seem. It CAN be the parent's choice to decide the appropriate age but only the child's choice whether or not they want it. Just explain everything first, pros AND cons.
  • u000 2012/07/02 10:55:53
    Yes
    u000
    it should be optional
  • Lorin Morgan 2012/07/02 06:25:33 (edited)
    Yes
    Lorin Morgan
    +2
    The amount of positive, erm, results I guess, outweighs the nagatives and it is a religious practice, the tradition should be allowed. But personally it's a parents choice, if you do it when they're young they won't remember it.
  • Vee Lorin M... 2012/07/02 20:57:55
  • joe 2012/07/02 05:36:59
    No
    joe
    +5
    Religious freedom stops at the body of a child. There is no medical reason for circumcision and it does much more long-term harm than good: loss of sensitivity, keratosis of the penis head, much higher percentage of of E.D. and premature ejaculation, reduction of penis size, and more difficulties breast feeding. On the other hand, drug companies that sell Viagra love it as do hospitals that sell neo-natal foreskin for about $550 a mm.
  • carri b... joe 2012/07/02 16:09:05
    carri byers
    If your understanding of "freedom" were recognized world wide, abortion would be a procedure for the health of the mother only since the modern medical community you so admire so much acknowledges the embryo is human and feels pain very early on...hope you're as anti-abortion as you are anti-circumcision.

    Many physician still believe there are benefits, though not as beneficial as once thought, of circumcision.

    Certified sites like the Mayo Clinic http://www.mayoclinic.com/hea... , Dr David Hawker http://www.circinfo.com/benef... , Family Doctors http://familydoctor.org/famil... , and the AAP and the AAFP who both say, "The Task Force (on circumcision) did recommend making all parents aware of the potential benefits and risks of circumcision and leaving it to the family to decide whether circumcision is in the best interests of their child.…Circumcision falls into that group of procedures that have potential medical benefits and some risks and should be evaluated by each family in the context of their personal beliefs and values as well as their ethnic, cultural, and religious practices. The Task Force respects the role of parents as decision-makers for their newborns and recommends that physicians discuss with parents the potential benefits as well as risks of circumcisio...
    If your understanding of "freedom" were recognized world wide, abortion would be a procedure for the health of the mother only since the modern medical community you so admire so much acknowledges the embryo is human and feels pain very early on...hope you're as anti-abortion as you are anti-circumcision.

    Many physician still believe there are benefits, though not as beneficial as once thought, of circumcision.

    Certified sites like the Mayo Clinic http://www.mayoclinic.com/hea... , Dr David Hawker http://www.circinfo.com/benef... , Family Doctors http://familydoctor.org/famil... , and the AAP and the AAFP who both say, "The Task Force (on circumcision) did recommend making all parents aware of the potential benefits and risks of circumcision and leaving it to the family to decide whether circumcision is in the best interests of their child.…Circumcision falls into that group of procedures that have potential medical benefits and some risks and should be evaluated by each family in the context of their personal beliefs and values as well as their ethnic, cultural, and religious practices. The Task Force respects the role of parents as decision-makers for their newborns and recommends that physicians discuss with parents the potential benefits as well as risks of circumcision so that parents can decide whether circumcision is in the child's best interests."
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  • Rodrigo... carri b... 2012/07/02 16:22:51
    Rodrigo Girão
    +4
    Circinfo? Oh, the Gilgal Society – whose life-long celibate leader Vernon Quaintance was recently arrested for possession of child porn. I am not making this up!
  • carri b... Rodrigo... 2012/07/02 20:51:44
    carri byers
    And the Mayo Clinic? Your liberal tactic of attacking the source instead of answering to the info won't float here. What about the AAP? Are they child porn possessors too? Give me a break.

    It is a parental decision. When you are ready to take the full fiscal, emotional and physical responsibility for every child born, then you can talk about outlawing their decision making rights.
  • Rodrigo... carri b... 2012/07/02 21:04:34
    Rodrigo Girão
    +3
    Since I can't take full fiscal, emotional and physical responsibility for every child born, I am not allowed to speak against child abuse. Great reasoning there, champ.
  • erikacr... carri b... 2012/07/06 19:53:25
    erikacrooks
    So, your reasoning is that babies have rights...until they're born and then the parents can do whatever they want, like have their genitals cut up. Good logic.
  • carri b... erikacr... 2012/07/06 21:35:00
    carri byers
    No more or less logical than to say a tiny infant is traumatized for life by a procedure he will never remember. Studies show humans don't develope long term memory till 2 to 5 years of age. Nothing that happens to a 7 days old baby will stay with him.

    And what I'm saying is that abortion has a 98% mortality rate while circumcision has 0.5 mortality rate - seems to me, if you are going to soapbox for infant rights it makes more sense to fight a sure killer than a very minor operation that occasionally has complications that can lead to death - since both abortion and circumcision are elective procedures.
  • handimom 2012/07/02 05:05:27
    Yes
    handimom
    I chose not to with my son, but that was my choice. If my son chooses to do so for religious reasons now that he is old enough to decide, that is his choice.
  • Small man big mouth 2012/07/02 03:36:38
  • ~Here Comes The Sun~ 2012/07/02 03:14:00
    No
    ~Here Comes The Sun~
    +2
    they should make their own decision ! it decreases sexual pleasure..
  • perviasrectus 2012/07/02 03:09:04
    No
    perviasrectus
    +3
    Religion is supposed to be a choice and so should circumcision.Do you think an infant could possibly make that choice? I do not.To make that choice for him is denying rights he should have when he becomes a man.Children are not to be owned which,is slavery,and treated a such! The bible states that rebellious children were publicly stoned,do we still do that!
  • carri b... pervias... 2012/07/02 16:12:37
    carri byers
    Interesting. The American Association of Physicians and the American Association of Family Physicians have this to say:

    "The Task Force found the evidence of low incidence, high-morbidity problems not sufficiently compelling to recommend circumcision as a routine procedure for all newborn males. However, the Task Force did recommend making all parents aware of the potential benefits and risks of circumcision and leaving it to the family to decide whether circumcision is in the best interests of their child.…Circumcision falls into that group of procedures that have potential medical benefits and some risks and should be evaluated by each family in the context of their personal beliefs and values as well as their ethnic, cultural, and religious practices. The Task Force respects the role of parents as decision-makers for their newborns and recommends that physicians discuss with parents the potential benefits as well as risks of circumcision so that parents can decide whether circumcision is in the child's best interests."
  • Vee carri b... 2012/07/02 20:58:46
  • Kanaka Rican - Now's the ti... 2012/07/02 02:49:31
    Yes
    Kanaka Rican - Now's the time for ACTION
    +1
    Circumcision is a religious tradition....period. For those who are not "religious" it wouldn't have any effect on them or their families....so what's the big deal.
    One thing I did find interesting is when I read this, "It's also interesting to note that female voters were more likely to oppose circumcision" I wonder how many of those women are Pro Life?
  • Angryfa... Kanaka ... 2012/07/02 19:12:45
    Angryface01
    I'm curious what you believe to be the correlation between a person being Pro-Life and them being Pro-Circumcision...
  • erikacr... Angryfa... 2012/07/06 19:56:03
    erikacrooks
    +1
    Agreed, since being pro-life and pro-circumcision would be hypocrisy at it's finest.
  • Kanaka ... Angryfa... 2012/07/09 18:55:36
    Kanaka Rican - Now's the time for ACTION
    Just saying....
  • Mallory Kanaka ... 2012/07/16 16:54:37
    Mallory
    +1
    Pro life intactivist here.
  • Jodi Martinez 2012/07/02 02:43:47
    Yes
    Jodi Martinez
    it has been practiced for years and it should be the parents choice and as far as I know it hasnt menatally effected any of the men I know...next we will be hearing someone using that as a reason why someone killed someone...and use it in court
  • Navin J... Jodi Ma... 2012/08/14 19:21:28
    Navin Johnson (The Jerk)
    it dosen't mentally effect anyone
  • Andrew 2012/07/02 02:08:51
    Yes
    Andrew
    Yes, I was circumsised.
  • pete 2012/07/02 00:59:30
    No
    pete
    +4
    This reminds me a little of the Jehova's Witnesses, who won't allow transfusions on their children. Another case where religion replaces common sense medicine.

    Circumcision may have its' merits in certain cultures. Before running water and sewers, the Middle East has been short on water for many centuries and circumcision in those arid climates may have had a purpose; to keep what's under that skin clean.

    Jews are circumcised routinely and that may be what their religion dictates. Even so, there's no real medical need to perform this any more.

    In our Western cultures, there's really no need to cut these babies. Teach them personal hygiene and leave that skin in tact. The foreskin serves a natural purpose; to protect the delicate nerve endings around the crown. That's besides keeping it warm.
  • Kanaka ... pete 2012/07/02 02:51:37
    Kanaka Rican - Now's the time for ACTION
    So Pete, are you for individual rights? Freedom of Religion or the right not to have a religion at all? What about free speech?
  • stars c... Kanaka ... 2012/07/02 14:49:59
    stars cascade
    +3
    What about the childs freedom of religion? Right to bodily autonomy or freedom of choice?
    All of which are removed when they PARENTS permanently AMPUTATE healthy tissue for THEIR religious beliefs or personal preference.
  • Kanaka ... stars c... 2012/07/02 17:08:42
    Kanaka Rican - Now's the time for ACTION
    When that Parent's child becomes of age and decides that the life their parent chose for them is not the path they choose, then that child can CHOOSE for himself that is not the path for him...Why is it the right of ANYONE to choose how I raise my children? Would you want me to impose my religious or political views on you as a mandate? INDIVIDUAL choice...
  • Vee Kanaka ... 2012/07/02 21:01:07
    Vee
    +3
    When you circumcise a baby for religious reasons, you impose your religious views on them as an individual.
  • Kanaka ... Vee 2012/07/09 18:58:54
    Kanaka Rican - Now's the time for ACTION
    And to impose your views on your children is what life is all about....passing on your family heritage, your legicy, morals and life lessons...it is up to that individual when they are of age...to make up their own minds and form their own beliefs...and it's up to the parents to guide them and hope they did the best.

    What, do you just let your child do what ever, hoping they will turn out decent?
  • pete Kanaka ... 2012/08/17 12:29:10
    pete
    So when the child reaches maturity, he should decide for himself whether or not to circumcise? That would be a little late, in my opinion.
    ?
  • Navin J... stars c... 2012/08/14 19:23:00
    Navin Johnson (The Jerk)
    it's not amputation! if it was,the whole thing would be removed
  • pete Kanaka ... 2012/07/07 19:41:19
    pete
    All of the above.........
  • Navin J... pete 2012/08/14 19:22:13
    Navin Johnson (The Jerk)
    keeping it warm? mine's never been cold lol
  • Stephen Smith 2012/07/01 23:32:40
    No
    Stephen Smith
    +8
    It should be illegal ib every country
  • Lorin M... Stephen... 2012/07/02 06:28:29
  • Rodrigo... Lorin M... 2012/07/02 16:25:19
    Rodrigo Girão
    +2
    Because it is harmful. And because it is immoral to do body modifications on people who have never consented.

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