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Should Certain States Break Away From the U.S.?

AdriHead 2012/11/13 23:44:03
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When people are unhappy with the elected president -- in this case, President Barack Obama -- it's pretty common for them to threaten to move to Canada. Or Europe. Or some other glamorous destination. Well, this time, disgruntled voters are signing petitions left and right to have their state secede -- or break away -- from the U.S. entirely.

Residents in more than 30 states -- including Texas, Georgia, Kansas, Utah and Wyoming to name a few -- are petitioning to secede from the Union by uploading their petitions to the White House "We the People" website. Do you think these states should be able to break away from the U.S.? Or are they just making noise for noise's sake?

EXAMINER.COM reports:
Citizens in over 30 states have so far started petitions at the White House "We the People" website seeking permission to secede from the Union.
petitions white house people website seeking permission secede union number

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  • Katherine 2012/11/13 23:55:12
    Yes, if that's what they want
    Katherine
    +49
    We're aren't the ones trying to "fundamentally change" America. When this country is gone, there's no place else to go and some of us are holding on however we can.

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  • Cameryn (◠‿◠✿) 2014/09/11 19:40:05
    Yes, if that's what they want
    Cameryn (◠‿◠✿)
    I would be okay with it if mine did.
  • GOP Poison Cameryn... 2014/09/24 21:51:41
    GOP Poison
    I would be okay with it if yours was too and I don't even know which one yours is.
  • dru dixon 2014/09/11 18:04:54
    No, that's ridiculous
    dru dixon
    +1
    Not possible, although I wouldn't miss some of them, like Texas.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/13 09:47:18
    Feriin
    Why do you think it isn't possible?
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/13 18:04:30
    dru dixon
    +1
    For like the first time it was tried, it would never be allowed.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/13 22:06:59
    Feriin
    That doesn't answer the why.
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/15 18:16:28
    dru dixon
    +1
    Because, economically this country would fail.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/15 19:25:38
    Feriin
    What country is that?
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/16 00:52:55
    dru dixon
    +1
    America.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/16 16:51:45
    Feriin
    America is a continent.

    Try again.
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/17 01:28:07 (edited)
    dru dixon
    Are you purposely trying to be slow?
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/17 13:25:59
    Feriin
    I'm not the one who doesn't know the difference between a continent and a country here.
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/17 21:43:16
    dru dixon
    Go play with somebody else.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/18 13:02:35
    Feriin
    I can't think of anyone else whose thinking is any more faulty than yours. So...
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/18 16:30:00
    dru dixon
    +1
    Go over to the right where you came from and you will find plenty.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/18 16:39:05
    Feriin
    There are plenty on both sides who have faulty thinking.
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/19 00:54:13
    dru dixon
    Like you had no idea of what I was saying when I typed "America" Get a life.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/19 01:09:17
    Feriin
    America the Continent, because there is no such thing as America the Country.

    So how about you learn the difference between a country and a continent.

    Ah the Obligatory "get a life" insult. It's like kindergarten all over again...
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/19 01:17:36
    dru dixon
    No, it is a statement regarding your passive aggressive attitude towards me.

    If you want to debate, fine, if you want to act stupid, then do it on somebody else's time.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/19 01:23:33
    Feriin
    You're the one calling a continent a country, not I. I have been trying to clarify the difference with you, for some reason you just keep on resisting.
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/19 01:27:33
    dru dixon
    And for some reason you feel the need to correct people, when it was not asked for, and not listening to what they were saying.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/19 02:19:03
    Feriin
    How am I to understand what you are saying when you are using incorrect terms?
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/22 21:55:28
    dru dixon
    Learning to think, is one way.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/22 22:21:35
    Feriin
    I agree, you need to learn to think correctly.
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/22 22:26:14
    dru dixon
    No, you need to. But I will say it to you real slowly with all caps.

    I DON'T THINK SUCCESSION OF ANY STATE WILL BE, OR SHOULD BE, ALLOWED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

    Got it now, pinhead?
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/22 22:49:49
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/24 20:52:11
    dru dixon
    Yeah, and we all saw how far they got, the first time they tried that sh*t.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/24 20:55:28
    Feriin
    Yeah, Lincoln made a criminal action, and the population (you) were too stupid to realize it.
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/24 20:59:52
    dru dixon
    Lincoln made the ONLY decision he could. And you deranged "Booth Lovers" never got over it.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/24 21:21:08
    Feriin
    Lol, so pathetic. Resorting to ad hominem attacks.
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/24 21:26:23
    dru dixon
    Just calling em like I see em. What Lincoln did, was right for the country. I frankly, would have loved to see the South fall on it's ass.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/24 21:45:48
    Feriin
    You have no idea why the south wanted to secede.
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/24 21:47:23
    dru dixon
    Oh no, I couldn't POSSIBLY know that.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/24 21:51:05
    Feriin
    Go ahead, post the reason why you think the South wanted to Secede.
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/24 22:05:44
    dru dixon
    Because of the tariffs, they felt they weren't being fairly represented in Washington, and the slavery issue which could harm their industry and survival.

    This is just a few mentioned in a nutshell.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/25 00:17:49
    Feriin
    +1
    Slavery wasn't so much of an issue, it's easy to know this as Lincoln admits he only "freed the slaves" in order to help bring a conclusion to the war.

    As for tariffs, that is part of it, however minor.

    The U.S. had loans come due, the banks agreed to extend the loans if they (the United States) would put up their land as collateral. The south didn't want their land put up for collateral for a debt they didn't create. This was the major issue, that you are not told about in your public miss-education.
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/29 21:37:49
    dru dixon
    "During the American Civil War, Lincoln used the war powers of the presidency to issue the Emancipation Proclamation, which declared "all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free" but exempted border states and those areas of slave states already under Union control. As a practical matter, at first the Proclamation could only be enforced to free those slaves who had already escaped to the Union side. However, millions more were freed as more areas of the South came under Union control. Lincoln pursued various plans to colonize free Blacks outside the United States, but none of these had a major effect."

    Now, this would suggest to me that it was Lincoln's intent all along to free the slaves.

    Okay, now why wasn't it the South's debt, as well?
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/29 22:40:03
    Feriin
    You went through a lot of crap to ask a simple question.

    Okay say I have a company, I borrow some money. It's a 20 year load (hypothetically). You become a partner with my company at year 19 and 6 months, I default on my loan.

    Do you really think that it's fair you have to be held responsible for the loan I took out almost 20 years before you partnered with my company?
  • dru dixon Feriin 2014/09/29 22:45:50
    dru dixon
    Legally, yes, but in my opinion no. But what has this got to do with the South?

    It wasn't crap, you said that Lincoln only brought up freeing the slaves because he wanted to end the war, and that is not true.
  • Feriin dru dixon 2014/09/29 22:51:31
    Feriin
    Yes, that's the only reason why Lincoln freed the slaves.

    There were loans taken out before the south joined the republic. When the loans came due the republic didn't have the money, they (the bankers) agreed to extend the loan if the south was put up as collateral.

    The South wasn't aware of the loans prior to joining.

    No one in their right mind would agree to join something if they knew they could lose everything, soon after that joining.
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