Should Cell-phone tracking citizens w/out warrant be LEGAL??!!

Definitely a case of "not NO!!!! but HELL NO!!!!!!!!!

Woops, wrong button.
Answer is NO by the way.
Even if you have nothing to hide, we still have a right to privacy.

Interesting area that needs further maturing.... So, were his calls on a wireline phone reverse looked up without warrants is that a violation of 4th amendment? (No - decided law) There's a case either way.

NO!!!!

Looks like yet another instance of our President, Mr. Barack Hussein Obama choosing to act like our previous President, Mr. George W. Bush, in limiting individual freedoms. Both are bad Presidents in this regard.

Ummmmmmm ....just how did the president get involved in this???? ... the ruling was by the 5th Circuit Court

My bad.

bu I have given up thinking I have any real privacy.

Basically, I'd say no. BUT, we all have heard where using the cell GPS to find lost, injured, abducted persons has been used. We need a clarification as to how and when it can be used.

No way that should be legal. They are taking advantage of the fact that we are so dependent on technology and many people ignore the tiny (or not so tiny) violations of our privacy. It's dispicable that we continously have to fight our OWN GOVERNMENT to stop them from this

It shouldn't be legal but it is. I have known this for years. They also can listen in even when the phone is not in use. It can be sitting in your room and they can listen. You can google it. I believe they call it a roving bug.

( I am not going to spend my time proving this to anyone when it is on google for everyone to see.).

And people thought my mom was weird for making us leave our cell phones in another room when she called sensitive and personal family meetings! :-} She's a sharp cookie that one....

Very smart. Wonder how she learned about it?

I think dad (and a man named Carl Sanders, who helped develop the first RFID chips) had something to do with that; he was an electronics engineer and computer hardware expert for Hewlett-Packard way back in the 80's. :-)

Tell me again that I live in a free country. Tell me again how the military are out there "fighting for my freedom." What a complete crock this whole country has become.

Propaganda is a powerful tool.

That it is.

"If a tool used to transport contraband gives off a signal that can be tracked for location, certainly the police can track the signal."
If law enforcement is allowed to track you because they're technically capable of it, then what CAN'T they do? They're technically capable of busting into your house and going through all your files without a warrant, but that doesn't mean they ought to.

Its was part of the patriot act that the Bush administration got signed into law .

It then is part of the Patriot Act that Obama promised to remove and instead doubled down on?

The Nsa has had this program up and working since 1994 under the national security act Bush and his AG broadened the use of internal surveilance and Obama cant just undo national security laws . So its One Nation under Surveilence .

Um.. yes he could have.. where have you been?

He had the house and the senate and the presidency..... that is all you need.

Obama added more to it. Then he went off and did NDAA!

EXACTLY.

Sorry meant to select NO. Is there a way to correct a selection error?

No and it happens FAR too often.

Simple fact the airwaves which these devices use is owned by the government. If they can put a pen register on your phone w/o a warrant to find out who you call but need one to listen basically applies here. Well you advertising with a GPS simple as that.

Tracking citizens shouldn't be legal at all.

Sometimes I read such stuff here on SH and wonder if the 4th grade teacher is competent to be in your classroom. You should know that all cell phones emit a message every two or three seconds to let the communications system know where it is located and how to reach it with an incoming message or call. How else would your carrier know where to find the phone and link it to the nearest relaying station?

If law enforcement has an interest in knowing where your phone is traveling, they must have a reason. Why would the local Sheriff or the FBI care where you are or have been?
Do you think there is someone out there "following" you around by tracking your phone
emissions just because they have time on their hands, or care if you spend an afternoon a week at a cheap motel with your lover? Trust that they are tracking bad guys in an effort to save your ungrateful ass from another terrorist attack, or gathering names of members of the drug cartel operating in your city.

If you want to commit a crime and try to fool authorities, give your phone to a friend who is going on vacation to a foreign country, or taking a month-long cruise through the Greek Islands. That will throw them off your scent.

It all depends on what our gov considers a threat/concerning. Below are flyers produced by the FBI and the Department of Justice are distributed to local businesses in a variety of industries to promote suspicious activity reporting. It is real eye opening.

http://publicintelligence.net...

So, you are proposing that our Government is exceeding it's responsibilities for security of the nation by asking citizens to be the eyes and ears that will best detect activities that could be plotting terrorists, maybe like some more bearded Islamics learning to "guide" airliners, or buying large quantities of fertilizer or hydrogen peroxide? Notice in the comments posted on the site you recommend how often the "f" word is used and other signs of immature juvenile minds just looking for attention and shock talk.

I really haven't much patience with these dim wits who whine and moan that someone is out there looking after the security of the nation while they sit in the rusting trailer villages oiling their guns and drinking cheap beer. Ignorance and misinformation is their lifestyle, a part of the RWNJ propaganda network.

Just today the media is reporting of radical Islamic websites openly recruiting volunteers to carry bombs into the U.S. and other Western nations and become martyrs by exploding them to kill targeted persons and places. Now, our Govy could just ignore these as did the Bush Administration and especially Dick Cheney who was controlling such things prior to the 9/11 events, or we could seek to be ahead of the events. Having help from the public is absolutely essential to the public safety.

I wouldn't mind it though, I have nothing to hide.

the people aren't even allowed to vote on it ..

4th Amendment says no.

No, no and NO.

All these powers being exploited.. Patriot Act was an abysmal piece of legislation. Putrid and underhanded. I hate it. Precedence is awful and boy, are we going to regret it. Well, we are now.. even.

unless its Military signal encryption coded any one can hear your calls . ever hear of a Uniden Bearcat Scanners ... :) from about $70 bucks and up pone shops are cheaper some times , http://www.bing.com/shopping/...