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Should CAIR have a voice in determining the NYPD's anti-terrorist policies?

RadicalIslam.org 2012/02/29 10:51:42
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CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) is one of many Muslim interest groups that purport to represent the Islamic community in America, but in reality have well established ties to Hamas and other terror groups.

CAIR was designated by the U.S. Justice Department for its role in terror financing during the nation’s largest-ever trial on the subject.

Outside of its support for terror organizations, CAIR works to quickly and effectively to silence any discussions about radical Islam by playing the racism card and accusing critics of Islamophobia. CAIR’s devices are effective.

As soon as the story broke that the NYPD was using the documentary "The Third Jihad" in its counter-terrorism training program, CAIR immediately branded the film "anti-Muslim propaganda" in a press release. This was followed by a CAIR-led protest on the steps of City Hall calling for the resignation of the NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly.
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  • AttilaTheHun 2012/02/29 20:22:43
    No
    AttilaTheHun
    +9
    I don't see anything about giving Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, or any other religion standing to decide NYPD's anti-terrorist policies. Why should this group be different? Seems racist to include them and not everyone else.
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  • Warrior 2012/03/27 02:47:52
    No
    Warrior
    To all CAIR members : This IS America. Do NOT come here and tell us what to do or how to do it. Personally, I don't know what the hell you are all doing here anyway, go home ! Quit playing the race card, we have already been through that, and it's really sickening. As for Islamophobia; no phobias here, I dislike ALL ignorant, controlling people the same ! Put that in your hukas and smoke it.
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  • Anca 2012/03/07 19:02:27
    No
    Anca
    i share the top opinion.
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  • Chris 2012/03/07 06:59:07
    No
    Chris
    Should Catholic priests be given the right to define what pedophilia is?
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  • ProudCommie 2012/03/05 14:58:37
    Yes
    ProudCommie
    Not just CAIR but everyone should have a say as to how the police use the power given to them.
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  • Warrior ProudCo... 2012/03/27 02:51:59
    Warrior
    ProudCommie; You need a swift kick in the arse...
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  • jesse.clymer1 2012/03/04 03:31:00
    No
    jesse.clymer1
    +1
    No. Religion of ANY stripe should have nothing to do with how we run our police or political organization.
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  • Jackie 2012/03/03 23:42:03
    No
    Jackie
    +1
    Cair is a Terrorist organization. Such a union would be absurd and insane.
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  • Nobu 2012/03/03 06:29:08
    No
    Nobu
    +1
    If CAIR has established ties with terrorist groups, they shouldn't be involved in it.
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  • Matthew Marquard 2012/03/02 23:59:26
    No
    Matthew Marquard
    +1
    Since when has the Islamic group have a stake or say in how we conduct our police business. That is other than those that have become American citizens, adopted & practice what the constitution stands for. I don't see why we need the CAIR. Why can't the bloody anti constitutional Islamic society leave us the bloody heck alone.
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  • LilacsGirl Kym 2012/03/02 13:02:40
    No
    LilacsGirl Kym
    I agree with the top statement. Nothing else to add.
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  • P. Sturm 2012/03/02 07:24:12
    No
    P. Sturm
    Hell No!! Not until I do! I've been a Ko-shinto / Buddhist since I was 6 or 7, and no one asked for my groups anti-terror input once. (I am a gaijin BTW.)
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  • Divine Harlow 2012/03/02 05:40:30
    No
    Divine Harlow
    No Hell No!!!!
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  • Joshua Shaffer 2012/03/02 04:14:44
    No
    Joshua Shaffer
    Of course not, It's not anti-muslim policy it's anti-terrorist policy.
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  • bob 2012/03/02 03:05:22
    No
    bob
    what a Dumbass question
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  • ChynaP 2012/03/01 23:00:44
    No
    ChynaP
    Equality....The US is supposed to have it for a reason.
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  • mike schwartz 2012/03/01 22:05:03
    No
    mike schwartz
    NEVER!
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  • James Hoppe 2012/03/01 19:12:59
    No
    James Hoppe
    +1
    The core for those decisions should be the NYPD. HOWEVER ! ! ! There should ALSO be civilian oversight by a group of NYC citizens representing ALL of the ethnic groups and economic levels in the city
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  • Elaine Magliacane 2012/03/01 18:18:31
    Yes
    Elaine Magliacane
    How about HELL NO!
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  • jesse.c... Elaine ... 2012/03/04 03:32:47
    jesse.clymer1
    I am a bit confused...
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  • Viet Era medic 2012/03/01 18:03:20
    No
    Viet Era medic
    +3
    NO. Nyet, non, nein, no effin' way..
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  • Randy 2012/03/01 17:08:06
    No
    Randy
    Here is the "Un-indicted Coconspirators List" from the trial {pdf file, 11 pages}. CAIR can be found on page 5, number 11 {See below}.
    http://www.anti-cair-net.org/...
    Contents of page 5 here:
    ATTACHMENT A
    26. Majdi Aqel
    27. Mohamed Siam, aka Abu Mahmud
    28. Mohamed Anati
    29. Mohamed Shbeir
    30. Mohammed Faraj Al Ghul
    31. Muharram Al Arifi
    32. Mustafa Mahsur
    33. Omar Sobeihi
    34. Omar Al Ashqar
    35. Qadi Hassan
    36. Raed Saleh
    37. Rashed Ghanoushi
    38. Yussef Al Qaradawi
    III. The following are individuals/entities who are and/or were members of the US
    Muslim Brotherhood's Palestine Committee and/or its organizations
    1. Abdel Haleem Ashqar, aka Abdel Hassan
    2. Ahmed Agha
    3. Akram Kharoubi
    4. Al Aqsa Educational Fund
    5. American Middle Eastern League, aka AMEL
    6. Ayman Ismail
    7. Ayman Sharawi
    8. Ayman Siraj Eddin
    9. Basman Elashi
    10. Bayan Elashi
    11. Council on American Islamic Relations, aka CAIR
    12. Dalell Mohamed
    13. Fawaz Mushtaha, aka Abu Mosab
    14. Fayez Idlebi
    15. Ghassan Dahduli
    16. Hamoud Salem
    17. Hassan Sabri
    18. Hazim Elashi
    19. IAP Information Office
    20. Ibrahim Al Samneh
    List of Unindicted Co-conspirators - Page 5
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  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/03/01 11:04:11
    No
    Lady Whitewolf
    JUST NO!!!
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  • qamar omar (Lp) 2012/03/01 10:09:41
    No
    qamar omar (Lp)
    NO No ..!!
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  • AdrianMcTiernan 2012/03/01 09:29:46 (edited)
    No
    AdrianMcTiernan
    +1
    If they are purporting to represent Islamic groups, but are really a front for support of terrorist activities, then it would be like inviting Satan to be involved in determining how Christian churches should worship - and history records that that has caused more wars than anything else. The question is daft, the organisation should not be allowed to exist, never mind have a voice in anything. I hope their protest on the steps of city hall was counterbalanced with clarifying protest against them and press release outlining that the protest was by a terrorist-inspired and led dangerous group. The problem with freedom of speech is that we must have a voice from BOTH sides, or the weak-minded or disinterested will be shepherded into becoming ruled over by such organisations. That is the way that Adolf Hitler was able to gain power - gaining popularity by supporting the desire for a better deal for Germany, and then, when voted in, turning to dictatorship, repression, murder of opposing people, and then invasion of other countries. If it wasn't for Britain and America working together, we might well have been ruled over by Nazis. We must wake up, before more atrocities like the World Trade Center attack comes upon America. It is said that for evil to triumph, all that is required...
    If they are purporting to represent Islamic groups, but are really a front for support of terrorist activities, then it would be like inviting Satan to be involved in determining how Christian churches should worship - and history records that that has caused more wars than anything else. The question is daft, the organisation should not be allowed to exist, never mind have a voice in anything. I hope their protest on the steps of city hall was counterbalanced with clarifying protest against them and press release outlining that the protest was by a terrorist-inspired and led dangerous group. The problem with freedom of speech is that we must have a voice from BOTH sides, or the weak-minded or disinterested will be shepherded into becoming ruled over by such organisations. That is the way that Adolf Hitler was able to gain power - gaining popularity by supporting the desire for a better deal for Germany, and then, when voted in, turning to dictatorship, repression, murder of opposing people, and then invasion of other countries. If it wasn't for Britain and America working together, we might well have been ruled over by Nazis. We must wake up, before more atrocities like the World Trade Center attack comes upon America. It is said that for evil to triumph, all that is required is that good people do nothing - please do something positive to combat this, and call upon those in Government to wake up and get rid of this organisation. Send them back to their own nations, to enjoy the fruits of their own ideas
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  • FPSRules 2012/03/01 07:10:52
    Yes
    FPSRules
    Yeah....the collective voice of CAIR should declare, "WE SURRENDER". Please don't send us to Gitmo!
    However, On the other hand, I just learned that by presidential fiat, Gitmo is getting a multimillion dollar facelift on the back of taxpayers, to make the terrorist's.....oops, err, I mean "detainees" visit more enjoyable.
    (Google that!)
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  • actionjksn 2012/03/01 06:16:15
  • Resp 2012/03/01 06:07:19
    No
    Resp
    +1
    No. Is there an American interest group in Islamic countries that represent the interests of Westerners and Christianity?
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  • Dzeeng 2012/03/01 05:39:02
    No
    Dzeeng
    +1
    not ever!
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  • nam-vet6869 2012/03/01 05:09:15
    Yes
    nam-vet6869
    +2
    My mouse is too sensitive. I vote a resounding NO. never should CAIR even be allowed to existent inside the United States. Ship them all home, you never know which is going to blow you away next..
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  • jean 2012/03/01 04:53:18 (edited)
    No
    jean
    +3
    CAIR is nothing more than a supporter of terrorist organizations. Why would we want the fox to guard the hen house?
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  • Richard 2012/03/01 04:15:39
    No
    Richard
    +2
    "H" no...
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  • baboula 2012/03/01 02:55:04
    No
    baboula
    According to them, there is no such thing as an Islamic terrorist
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  • Soup Man 2012/03/01 02:21:17
    No
    Soup Man
    +1
    F CAIR
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  • Jose Hernandez 2012/03/01 01:42:59
    No
    Jose Hernandez
    +1
    Seems like some other liberal religious scare.
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  • kick2head 2012/03/01 01:32:55
    No
    kick2head
    +1
    I have read the information you provided several times and I assume by the question you ask, that you are asking, "Should the NYPD's policies be dictated or influenced by CAIR?".

    I am going to take heat probably for my answer but, I believe that all constituents of a government entity should be able to protest and/or voice their respective opinions or concerns about that entity's policies and practices, the ability to question government is one of the greatest things about being an American.

    On the other hand, I believe common sense and what is best for the common good gets tossed aside quite often in favor of nonsensical decisions made in the interest of political correctness, often to the detriment of the majority of the constituency.

    Since many of these offices are overseen by elected officials or by those they appoint, I believe it is important that the majority's protest and voice is louder and the prominent thought on these politician's minds everyday so that they are less inclined to make these poor judgements.
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  • ShamshirMkII 2012/03/01 01:26:32
    Yes
    ShamshirMkII
    ....and so should every other member in society. Terrorism can be instigated by anyone, and it affects all.
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  • Demonic Rat Hunter 2012/03/01 01:25:43
    No
    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +5
    Only one way to deal with terrorists. nbh
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  • Wanda5245 - Citizen Activis... 2012/03/01 01:12:22
    No
    Wanda5245 - Citizen Activist Who Wants Spunkysmum Back On SH
    +4
    One does not assign guard duty to the hen house to the fox that is if you really care about your chickens.
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  • kerebail.ramakrishnachar 2012/03/01 01:09:47
    No
    kerebail.ramakrishnachar
    +5
    No,as they have well established ties to Hamas and other terror groups.
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  • jubil8 BN-0 PON 2012/03/01 00:53:54
    Yes
    jubil8 BN-0 PON
    Sure.

    And the plans for all important buildings in NYC along with the hours they're most vulnerable to attack, along with the best approaches and getaways for each. A list of police already known to be on the take might help too. Maybe give them a few spare uniforms and some police-issue equipment so they can "hide in plain sight."

    Does the phrase "Setting the fox to guard the henhouse" ring a bell?
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