SHOULD ATHEIST RESTRICT NEW YORK'S FINEST FROM A HAVING A STREET NAMED IN THEIR HONOR?

by Old Salt Posted 2011/06/22 21:58:13

Related Topics: Freedom Of Speech, freedom of religion, Congress, Religion, Constitution, Atheists, Atheist, New York, Free, Exercise, New York City, Rights, The View, 9/11

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	ATHEIST ARE RIGHT! THIS IS VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION!	1 vote	1%
	ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!	79 votes	99%

Seven firefighters from New York City’s Engine 202, Ladder 101 died on 9/11. Now, part of a road in Red Hook, Brooklyn has been renamed “Seven in Heaven Way” in honor of their sacrifice. But the move has angered a group of local atheists who claim that “It’s improper for the city to endorse the view that Heaven exists.” They feel offended and proclaim that their constitutional rights under the 1st amendment have been violated.

Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Does the Honoring of these brave men DENY the 1^st Amendment of the our Constitution? Do ATHEIST have justification to remove this sign honoring New York's Finest?

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ncc3865 2011/06/22 22:08:49

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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It does not matter if Heaven exists or not. It is to honor the sacrifice of this fire company in doing their job to saves lives and protect the public. Funny, the men and women who serve, defend and protect all of us, both gave us our constitutional rights and see that we get to keep them. Everyone should honor these brave men and women every chance we get. One last point, who gives a damm what they think anyway. The good of the many, outweigh the wants of a few.
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Truthami 2011/06/27 04:13:27 (edited)

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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If the firefighters were Christians, and the people who lived on this street had no objections, then there should not be a problem from anyone. Because we have such diversity in this country, we have to realize that not everything is about me and I will not always get what I want. Everyone will have to make some concessions,or we will not survive.The good of the many may outweigh the wants of a few, but The wants of the many do not necessarily outweigh the good of a few.

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BlueMax372 2011/06/27 00:21:17

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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To hell with the atheists. That's where they want to go anyway!

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Selketskiss 2011/06/26 04:08:17

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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Why can't people see what it really is about, the firefighters who died. WTF why do the atheists have to pick on every little thing go the f**k home and stop whining ...

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Old Salt to Selkets... 2011/06/26 06:32:54

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Sometimes a "Political Agenda" is more important than the purpose of what our founding fathers intended to be "anti political?"

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studiobrat BN-0 AFCL 2011/06/26 01:03:54

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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Excellent post!

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mg's haven~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2011/06/23 19:14:38

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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FCOL What is this 5th grade again. I hear and see all kinds of things that get on my nerves but i can control my sensibilites long enough for others to be happy. What happened to them? Did i miss a memo or something that says only certain people can have freedoms. I know why done they put something up and ADD something positive to the movement instead of pissing on people when they feel insulted

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seadog6608PWCM 2011/06/23 15:31:18
Old Salt to seadog6... 2011/06/23 16:19:08

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NO.... don't you understand, you're simply suppose to put your hands over your ears to protect their freedom of speech???

GREAT COMMENT!

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seadog6... to Old Salt 2011/06/23 21:59:53
Truthami to Old Salt 2011/06/27 05:07:39

If you think that is the answer. Close your ears and close your mind. They will win.

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MandaLynne 2011/06/23 15:23:22

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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The name of the street in no way violates the constituion - it is not a law establishing a religion by the government. It embodies the free exercise of religion and the freedom of speech.

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Old Salt to MandaLynne 2011/06/23 16:24:37

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They get this taken away, guess all the roads named, "CHURCH STREET" are next? How ridiculous these fanatics are becoming!

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Truthami to MandaLynne 2011/06/27 05:04:32

I think the correct wording is "make no law concerning the establishment of a church", not a law establishing a church. But I voted with you because sometimes the right thing to do is more important than an antiquated document that, while it has served us well, is in need of some updates to reflect the times we live in.

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whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2011/06/23 13:57:28
Truthami to whitewu... 2011/06/27 05:10:59

Very christian of you to say.

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Space Invader 2011/06/23 12:07:09

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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Atheism; the religion of self. All oinkers...

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Truthami to Space I... 2011/06/27 05:12:02

Christianity, the religion of the self righteous. Amen

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Space I... to Truthami 2011/06/27 12:02:34

ah, religion..don't like it..it's run by wanna be politicians, and a lot of people with mental issues...

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NYC Firedog 2011/06/23 11:17:03

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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I'm a retired NYC Fireman. I had great religious discussions with some atheist Brothers. Those same Brothers would never insult the rest of us with this BS. They would be the first to bitch slap these intolerant Fundamentalist atheist ass holes.

Go over there to Brooklyn and have a chat with the Brothers of L-101 and E-202 and give them your thoughts. In fact head over to any firehouse in the city or the rest of the country for that matter. Speak to ANY Brother if you have the balls.

Depart from us. Get thee hence.

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seadog6... to NYC Fir... 2011/06/23 15:32:31
Old Salt to NYC Fir... 2011/06/23 16:33:20

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Thanks so much for your comment, even more, your dedication to "PROTECT & SERVE" the people you have for many years in your profession! OS

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Truthami to NYC Fir... 2011/06/27 05:12:44

Well said. Better than most I've seen here.

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ELLIE 2011/06/23 10:29:22

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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That is just plain silly.Why are they against a renaming of a street in honour of people who went and tried to rescue others and paying the ultimate price for it.They are not supposed to have any sort of convictions in the "believing" stakes,so why do they believe that it is wrong?

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AL 2011/06/23 07:35:49 (edited)

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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What the Hell where they thinking anyway? Oh I'm sorry, atheist don't even believe in hell do they?

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Old Salt to AL 2011/06/23 16:42:04

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When I was in Vietnam looking up a hill where 2,000 Vietcong troops were coming at only 32 fellow soldiers/sailors, any of us who did not have God, "Got God"..... really quick! :)

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AL to Old Salt 2011/06/24 03:46:28 (edited)

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Amen brother. What better time to believe in God and ask for his help as well! I Thank God for you and every troop thats willing to put his life on the line for his country men! Without you there is NO us or U.S.either! May God bless you and yours!

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Old Salt to AL 2011/06/24 04:31:20

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That was a time in history we all would like to forget... may it never happen again! Of the three wars going on right now, Im most worried about Libya! We do not have a strong President and he is moved by those much stronger than him. Events are going to happen over there, and in Syria that I fear he will be drawn in by a higher power. We need to get him out.

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AL to Old Salt 2011/06/24 04:40:56

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I'm trying to figure out why we're even in Libya? Then to, Obama is giving pull out dates and the very number of troops he's going to withdraw in the other two wars as well! What kind of moron gives our own enemy the dates and number of troop to leave the battle field?

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Old Salt to AL 2011/06/24 04:48:05

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A "politician" moron! That's easy. Kinda like calling a "cease fire" in Vietnam when we had the war already won! Then the 5 months to decide what shape the "cease fire" table should be while North Vietnam used the time to pack anti-aircraft guns all over the "Ho Che Ming" Trail!!! That's what kind of moron! :)

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AL to Old Salt 2011/06/24 05:07:03

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I was just trying to make a point here! I know there isn't any good reason at all for us to be in Libya! And you're so right about Vietnam as well! If it wasn't for all those far left a----hole brats, like commie jane,John the fairy kerry and the far left lame sream media, we would have indeed won that war! Yet those commie bastards did all they could not to let that happen! May they all burn in hell for what they did to their own country!

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Old Salt to AL 2011/06/24 05:16:46

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I was just trying to make the point too, as to "What type of Moron!" LOL

Yes on Kerry and Founda! Still have never seen "On Golden Pond!"

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AL to Old Salt 2011/06/24 05:28:17

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I wonder if that Golden pond could have been a open sawyer that commies like Fonda used as a swim hole?

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RastaFan 2011/06/23 07:33:48

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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Sometimes I feel like violating atheist twits with a fire hose nozzle. See how offended they feel after that!

As if the city can't respect the prevailing belief of the majority without outright condoning or enforcing it in law. Have some balls, councillors! Say NO to the social tyranny of the PC victimologists.

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gregaj7 2011/06/23 07:31:28

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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I'm 'offended' by their offense.

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Leinad 2011/06/23 07:15:12

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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In light of this info, and a similar question did not give these circumstances as i remember, I say let the SIGN STAY and screw what others may think...screw what others may think...

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natwebb 2011/06/23 06:26:36

ATHEIST ARE WRONG! IT IS HONORING FALLEN FIREFIGHTERS!

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The constitution does not say "separation of church and state." It says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." An establishemnt of religion is and established church, like the Church of England or in other parts of 18th centruy the Roman Catholic Church. In those days the national government mandated a speciffic church be supported by the state and the people. Praying in school, naming a street Heaven, or putting up a Christmas tree is not an establishment of religion.

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Old Salt to natwebb 2011/06/23 06:33:02

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THANK YOU! You're only the second one who has stated a FACT!!! Great job!

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NYC Fir... to natwebb 2011/06/23 11:18:37

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Spot On!

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Jacob M... to natwebb 2011/06/23 15:41:20

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Not to mention Congress had nothing to do with this so it is perfectly Constitutional.

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Truthami to natwebb 2011/06/27 05:28:10

If the government mandates praying in a public (government) building like a school, isn't that the same as mandating a specific church be supported by the state and the people. As for naming a street heaven, not a problem, unless the people on that street have a problem with the name. I can't imagine going trough a winter without seeing a Christmas tree.

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