Should an obese parent lose custody of their child because of their weight?

by (▪‿▪)DoctorWhoGuru(▪‿▪) Posted 2012/06/21 22:39:17

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An Ottawa man whose obesity played a factor in whether he was fit enough to be a father has lost custody of his children after a judge ruled Wednesday that his two boys would be put up for adoption.

In the judge's ruling, the father was described as a "loving" and "intelligent" father who held deep hatred for the Children's Aid Society of Ottawa.

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Dave The Canuck 2012/06/21 23:00:18

No

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How is a parent's obesity harming the child?
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Larry A. Singleton 2012/06/28 22:55:27

No

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Fathers have no rights in this country. NONE! The Constitution ceases to exist the second a father steps into a courtroom.

I invite you to read two books, and in my opinion, the last words on the subject. The first is “Taken Into Custody” by Stephen Baskerville. (Or go to Amazon and at least read the Introduction. And “The War Against Boys” by Christina Hoff Sommers. Read the Preface and the first chapter on Amazon.)

Introduction: The Crisis of Fatherhood and Marriage

http://www.amazon.com/Taken-I...

I advise everybody to read "Taken Into Custody" by Stephen Baskerville. You only THINK you know how out of control government is. I promise you. You don't. I consider myself very, very well informed. I've been an activist and a patriot and a victim of the government. However even I was shocked when I read this book. Go online, and just read the Introduction. If you have the guts, buy the book. I say this because it will be one of the most difficult books you have ever read. It is literally gut wrenching. You think you hate the government now. Believe me when I tell you this-you will go ballistic after reading this book. Just like "The War Against Boys", "One Nation Under Arrest" “Mean Justice” or even "Muslim Mafia". This book strips away the lie that is the so-called dead bea...

Fathers have no rights in this country. NONE! The Constitution ceases to exist the second a father steps into a courtroom.

I invite you to read two books, and in my opinion, the last words on the subject. The first is “Taken Into Custody” by Stephen Baskerville. (Or go to Amazon and at least read the Introduction. And “The War Against Boys” by Christina Hoff Sommers. Read the Preface and the first chapter on Amazon.)

Introduction: The Crisis of Fatherhood and Marriage

http://www.amazon.com/Taken-I...

I advise everybody to read "Taken Into Custody" by Stephen Baskerville. You only THINK you know how out of control government is. I promise you. You don't. I consider myself very, very well informed. I've been an activist and a patriot and a victim of the government. However even I was shocked when I read this book. Go online, and just read the Introduction. If you have the guts, buy the book. I say this because it will be one of the most difficult books you have ever read. It is literally gut wrenching. You think you hate the government now. Believe me when I tell you this-you will go ballistic after reading this book. Just like "The War Against Boys", "One Nation Under Arrest" “Mean Justice” or even "Muslim Mafia". This book strips away the lie that is the so-called dead beat dad and exposes the truth to what is the economic genocide being inflicted on dads.

Please believe me when I tell you you will not be able to comprehend what your eyes will reveal to you. You Will Weep. I'm not exaggerating. I'm not being "shrill". Our government and it's employees are no more out of control then in the family law and child support racket. The Constitution DOES NOT EXIST in Americas courtrooms. You probably think you know all there is to know about this unpopular subject. You Do Not.

“Of all the Orwellian phrases most Americans have grown comfortable with, "family law" may be most pernicious -- and what it represents may well be the most invasive and intrusive tyranny now operating in our country.” Stephen Baskerville, Ph.D.
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Amelia 2012/06/23 21:09:57

Yes

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Parents: take PROPER care of your children! nuff said

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ShadeKnight97 2012/06/23 02:07:28

No

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Whether someone is obese or not doesn't change how much or well they take care of there child. My mother is a single parent and obese but she has been an amazing mother and always will be. Whether she loses weight or not is not going to change that. :)

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cynsity 2012/06/23 01:10:18

Yes

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In THIS case yes. The weight was only 1 factor. There was also the factor the man has special needs children who take more dilegent care than he can provid. There is the factor the man has been known to spend hours playing videos rather than tending his children, and teh factor that the man needs to give time to his own care and health before he can give any to two special needs childre,

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Diane Spraggs Yates 2012/06/23 00:42:44

No

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Children do not belong to the Government they did it in Hitlers day but not America !!!!

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MlssCue =Go Blue= 2012/06/22 22:18:33

No

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They better do a sweep across the nation then because this is not right. If this Dad lost his sons due to his weight then there are going to be LOTS of homes minus kids & more in foster care. AND if they are going to yank kids from parents who are overweight, then they better damn well do the same if the parents are skinny, skeleton looking things.

(The ruling notes no signs of physical abuse toward the children and says his home is "suitable," but predicts that it won't be in future be-cause he may need housemates to pay the rent.)

Excuse me what does this have to do w/anything? A prediction is not the fact & so what if he did have to get a roommate. How many people/parents are out here struggling to make it in this economy & have a roommate. Does that make them a bad parent? No.
I could go on & on but I'll spare you.

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D.C.Verdone 2012/06/22 20:45:57

No

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That is just stupid, seriously, I have seen plenty of parents encourage their kids to eat healthier BECAUSE of the way they are.

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Cuppajo 2012/06/22 19:27:36

No

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I imagine I would hold a deep hatred for the Children's Aid Society of Ottawa if they tried to take my kids away from me too.

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MlssCue... to Cuppajo 2012/06/22 22:20:12

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Exactly!

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MandaLynne 2012/06/22 19:23:37

No

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There is so much wrong with this, I don't know where to begin.

One thing in the article really stood out to me. They say he is too fat to raise his kids. Yet he is on a weight loss regimen and has lost weight, but they are saying parental responsibilities will interfere with his weight loss. That is extremely messed up circular logic.

"Both boys are in foster care, one in a home run by a single mother with five other children." - Yeah, that is so much better than being raised by a fat parent -NOT NOT NOT!

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aherbert 2012/06/22 17:24:15

Yes

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There are a lot of health issues that is caused by obesity ... if a parent cannot monitor their child’s food portions that appears to be a problem ... and perhaps the other parent can do a better job.

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MandaLynne to aherbert 2012/06/22 19:20:42 (edited)

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They weren't given to the other parent. They were put up for adoption. You don't actually believe that is better for the kids? To be raised by strangers instead of their own parent who happens to be fat?

From the article: "Both boys are in foster care, one in a home run by a single mother with five other children." There is no way that is better for them. They have been separated. How is a single mom with 5 kids better than a fat parent.

Did you read the article? They say he is too fat, but he is on a weight loss regimen and has lost weight, but now they are saying parenting responsibilities would inhibit his weight loss program. What kind of messed up circular logic is that?

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aherbert to MandaLynne 2012/06/22 19:32:26

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No I do think children are better off with anyone else other than their parents. I didn't read the article I must admit & now that you informed me I agree with you ... that is just wrong.

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MandaLynne to aherbert 2012/06/22 20:08:23

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Glad we agree. :)

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MlssCue... to MandaLynne 2012/06/22 22:23:57

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Yeah like he's the only parent in the world trying to be healthier & do parenting both. How dare that judge act like this is something unheard of.

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cynsity to MandaLynne 2012/06/23 01:06:00

They as say he has two special needs childre who have to have a extreme about of supervison and care that the man has to continue to work at his weight program to live that he has been found to have neglicted teh children for a video game and that he doesn't have the resources needed to take care of teh children AND take care of himself. The children have been in foster care for a while they need something perminate.

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pdarkow 2012/06/22 12:52:46

No

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That is as wrong as it can get. Just because he is obese does not mean he can't take care of his children and provide all the love, clothes, and needs his children have. People put so much into obesity but 95% of all americans would not pass a height and weight tape test for body fat. Also since when did the government get the right to say your too fat to raise a kid. A persons weight is a personal problem not a political one and it is also not the state, or governments place to say you can only weigh this if you plan on having kids. That judge made a ruling that just admitted the united states is a socialistic communist police state government. That is what that ruling means. People in our society have better and more important things to worry about than how much someone weighs that have kids. This society is so worried about everyone else that they fail to realize that someone elses house is nobody's business and people need to mind their own business. It makes you wonder how the Children's Aid Society of Ottawa and their bought off judge would feel if his children get adopted to people who end up abusing them, neglecting them, and mistreating them?

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cynsity to pdarkow 2012/06/23 01:07:52

These children were being neglicted according to the article teh man likes to spend hours at a time playing video games, ask any parent with special needs children you don't have time to be selfish like that. His weight was a factor because ONLY because it was in his health interest to maintain a high and active program which meant even less time to care for the children

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pdarkow to cynsity 2012/06/23 01:12:04

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I only saw the headline couldn't pull up any article so I may have spoke out of context without getting all the facts

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cynsity to pdarkow 2012/06/23 01:16:24

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HA headline are like that... make you think one thing and really the story is different... always remind myself to use the rule about if it bleeds it leads but if it gushes .... check the fine print

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pdarkow to cynsity 2012/06/23 01:20:35

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That is real good advice that I am going to keep in mind for next time i see a headline that may be misleading

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cynsity to pdarkow 2012/06/23 01:39:27

HAHAHA! yeah I find the more sensational the headline the more drab the story.... And beside this was out of Canada how exciting could it really have been

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Helmholtz to pdarkow 2012/06/24 17:41:09

I respect your humility.

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Jackal 2012/06/22 10:35:01
FlyAway 2012/06/22 09:41:08

No

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Having a child taken away from you because of your weight is just simply wrong. Weight shouldn't play a part in deciding how well someone looks after their kids.

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kiwimac 2012/06/22 09:27:05

No

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It is not the weight of a person which defines their ability to raise children. It never has been.

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Sebastianchocolatebeargiles 2012/06/22 09:13:06

No

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If they are still able to provide for their kids then it's none of anyone else's business.

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beach bum 2012/06/22 08:40:32

No

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no

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La 2012/06/22 04:54:28

Yes

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It says "played a factor". In every custody case, there are a great range of factors considered. This could be one of them.

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gocar 2012/06/22 04:47:56

No

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But I do think the family need counseling on how to loose weight. It is to do with health and one day they will cost the healthcare system money. Also many surgeons do not want to operate on obese patients and you might not get life saving operations.

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YourGurll<3 2012/06/22 03:41:46

Yes

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I meant No...! But yes and no...

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Inquisitve Kat 2012/06/22 03:32:13

No

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However, if their obesity seems to be connected to an inability to be a proper parent, such as in the case of this man, they should lose custody.
I do think parents of obese children (whose obesity cannot be explained by a medical condition) should lose custody.

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Me 2012/06/22 03:19:15

No

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omg...reallyyyyy that sad

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Reggie☮ 2012/06/22 02:41:46

No

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Should a stupid parent lose custody of their child because they an idiot.

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SueAmazon 2012/06/22 01:09:03

No

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Not in itself (Imafatassattimes). If it harms the child then yes but for endangerment/neglect. Abuse if it's clear that is the case. If the child is obese and encouraged to over eat, for example, then that shows a sadistic mental problem with the parents. I'd say some could be ignorant but that is not possible in reality.

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Reichstolz 2012/06/21 23:57:47

Yes

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I lost a malpractice civil suit because an ignorant fat mother essentially killed her thirteen year old son, by feeding his lazy ass until his heart gave out. She had a 9 year old daughter that I am sure she killed as well.

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Inquisi... to Reichstolz 2012/06/22 03:36:05

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Oh my... that's terrible!
When I see obese children, I always notice the parents are also fat... that should be considered child abuse.

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Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/06/21 23:16:43

No

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Hell no - this is a step too far. We have got to get these progressives rooted out of all decision making roles in society. They have lost their minds.

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tweet_tweet 2012/06/21 23:11:46

Yes

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This man should have the children taken away. They are special needs, and it sounds like he is not handling it. In general, no, kids should not be taken away due to an obese parent. I am responding to this article specifically.

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Kevin 2012/06/21 23:07:12

No

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People need to stay out of other people's business.

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