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Should an Animal Abuser Be President?

joseph digristina 2012/06/26 03:08:42
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Seems Mittens doesn't just have a thing for mistreating dogs....horses included.

Friday, June 22, 2012









Should an Animal Abuser be President? Neigh.







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First there was Seamus, the Romney family Irish Setter whom they admit
to strapping to the roof of their car (at least once) for a 12-hour
drive to Canada as if he was luggage. They left poor Seamus up on the
roof even after he became ill and soiled himself and the car. Mitt, in
what was described by his campaign as "emotion free crisis management"
merely hosed Seamus down and continued on the trip for hours more.





Now there is a horse named Super Hit.




In 2008, the Romneys sold a horse named Super Hit for $125,000. The
horse was subsequently found to be lame and unable to perform dressage.
Dr. Steven Soule, veterinarian for the U.S. Equestrian Team, was
consulted. He found that Super Hit, at
the time he was sold, had been drugged with a staggering amount of
painkillers - more than he had ever seen given to a horse in 38-years of
practice.

Super Hit's new owners sued Ann Romney, her trainers
and her vet. The case was settled out of court last September. The
Romney campaign called the case "frivolous," but refused to allow the LA
Times to interview the Romneys, their trainers, or their vet. The LA
Times also reports that Romney's lawyers have sought to keep the case
out of the public eye by trying to get the attorney of Super Hit's new
owners to sign a confidentiality agreement.

The Romneys
continue their relationship with the same trainers under whom Super Hit
was given a staggering amount of painkillers so that he could be forced
to continue performing.

Sources:

Buzzfeed: http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/ann-romneys-high-horse

LA Times: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/may/22/nation/la-na-ann-romn...
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  • Dana 2012/06/29 03:32:37
    Neigh.
    Dana
    Here is what Romney did, he committed fraud in trying to sell a horse (for $125K) who was drugged to cover a serious lameness issue that required surgery, and ended up with the horse becoming nothing more than a lawn ornament.

    The buyer had been riding the horse for awhile prior to the sale, showing this horse was consistently being drugged to appear sound. The drugs used were pretty serious heavy duty stuff, including narcotics. The buyer had blood run on the horse, and a full toxicology report... standard SOP when purchasing a very pricey horse and these drugs were found when the report was finalized.

    The Romneys tried to pull a fast one here. One could blame the horses trainer for this... but excepting that the Romneys are still using same trainer w/ their horses shows either intent to drug the horse on their part or at the very least, not caring what is done to them.
  • joseph ... Dana 2012/06/29 03:49:55
  • Dana joseph ... 2012/06/29 04:12:37 (edited)
    Dana
    Pretty pathetic, 'eh?

    Here is what was found in her system,...

    "Super Hit had three sedative pain killers and one narcotic pain killer in her system when the horse was examined to check her condition pre-sale. The drugs were Butorphanol, Delomidine, Romifidine, and Xylatine."

    And they claim this was for sedation for radiographs? Oh what a crock of crap! Butorphenol? THAT is a major heavy duty narcotic pain killer.

    Delomidine.. has to mean dormosedan... that is one hell of a sedative... Romifidine also a sedative... xylazine... has to be a misspelling from article I copied from... is another major sedative, muscle relaxer, etc...

    Question is... why on earth would this horse have all of this in her system? Why would any vet make this kind of a potentially lethal cocktail for this horse? Possibly this mare was so used to being drugged... she just plain had a serious resistance built up in her system? Or had to be drugged lightly to be ridden? I can not imagine a world class dressage horse being so wild and ill tempered to need to be sedated within an inch of her life for radiographs... and still does not explain the dormosedan... the narcotic pain killer.. there is no surprise here that this woman filed a lawsuit.
  • joseph ... Dana 2012/06/29 05:54:33
  • Dana joseph ... 2012/06/29 06:12:21 (edited)
    Dana
    I read the affidavit written by the vet.,... yikes!

    The horse had a history of serious lameness issues.... all documented from vet records, MRI, radiographs, invasive treatments, over many years with the Romneys as the owners.. etc etc. Plus Romney knew of these issues, because the horse had an exclusion on his insurance papers for them. Add in, the vet used for the pre purchase exam to the buyer, had been the trainers vet for 20 years... working on this same horse. Huge conflict of interest and by law he was required to inform the buyer of this, and he did not. He also lied about the findings on the radiographs, and noted to the trainer... not the buyer as he was legally obligated to do, that the horse was heavily drugged prior to his exam beginning. And in addittion to the 4 drugs found in the horses system, there were 2 more found in a different test, specific for lameness issues. (Legend and Adequan given prior to the exam...)

    Bottom line is...Romney knowingly owned a horse for years who had serious lameness issues. They were covered up w/ drugs, likely during competition too, just lucky for them were never caught. (drug tests are not done on every horse, just random in most shows,, Vet said the horses issues so serious, he could not have competed at that level w/out seriou...



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    I read the affidavit written by the vet.,... yikes!

    The horse had a history of serious lameness issues.... all documented from vet records, MRI, radiographs, invasive treatments, over many years with the Romneys as the owners.. etc etc. Plus Romney knew of these issues, because the horse had an exclusion on his insurance papers for them. Add in, the vet used for the pre purchase exam to the buyer, had been the trainers vet for 20 years... working on this same horse. Huge conflict of interest and by law he was required to inform the buyer of this, and he did not. He also lied about the findings on the radiographs, and noted to the trainer... not the buyer as he was legally obligated to do, that the horse was heavily drugged prior to his exam beginning. And in addittion to the 4 drugs found in the horses system, there were 2 more found in a different test, specific for lameness issues. (Legend and Adequan given prior to the exam...)

    Bottom line is...Romney knowingly owned a horse for years who had serious lameness issues. They were covered up w/ drugs, likely during competition too, just lucky for them were never caught. (drug tests are not done on every horse, just random in most shows,, Vet said the horses issues so serious, he could not have competed at that level w/out serious lameness... thus had to have been drugged.

    Then Romney wanted to unload the horse for $125K, so the horse was drugged for the vet check, made sure their own vet did it, and that the buyer was not informed of any of this. Only way she found out, was having all the test results and radiographs, etc.. sent to her own vet, who happened to be one of the leading vets in the country for pre purchase exams and on the Olympic team horses. So they were caught.

    FRAUD>... 100%, and the Romneys, their trainers and their vet should have been sued. Just this woman could not fight anymore. he who has the most money wins... period. And I am sure the Romneys had more money than the buyer. Buyer still owns the horse. Another interesting note, is that his dressage test scores were very very high at the highest levels of competition under the Romneys, yet immediately after sale to new owner, he competed at a lower level and his scores were nearly 10 points lower. According the the USDF, he has not been shown since.
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  • joseph ... Dana 2012/06/29 06:45:32
  • Dana joseph ... 2012/06/29 17:23:24
    Dana
    I tried to send to Ed Show, but could not find the email address. Can you send to all 3 and see which will take it on? It is a big deal.. but, sadly not uncommon in the horse world to inject joints and give pain killers for the horse to perform... some would say it is "humane". And for some maybe it is... help them with their pain. But... the line that was crossed here that makes more raise their eyebrows, was that this horse was competing at Prix St George level... incredibly big heavy duty, extremely difficult, only the very best of the best can do this... and this horse was drugged the entire time. THAT is illegal by the rules of the game. His scores some were upward of 69's, and that is incredibly good... so the others competing against this drugged horse, may not have scored as high, and that is a lot of $$$ to be lost. Also is sad that this horse was great enough to get those scores, inspite of some serious lameness issues. Also, and here is where some more cruelty comes in, he was very likely given massive amounts of bute... NSAID pain killer that they "may" compete with... (would have to check the USDF rules for certain, but in some events a little of this is ok... but any amount over even a weeks time can cause horrible gastric ulcers and internal bleeding, anemia, e...
    I tried to send to Ed Show, but could not find the email address. Can you send to all 3 and see which will take it on? It is a big deal.. but, sadly not uncommon in the horse world to inject joints and give pain killers for the horse to perform... some would say it is "humane". And for some maybe it is... help them with their pain. But... the line that was crossed here that makes more raise their eyebrows, was that this horse was competing at Prix St George level... incredibly big heavy duty, extremely difficult, only the very best of the best can do this... and this horse was drugged the entire time. THAT is illegal by the rules of the game. His scores some were upward of 69's, and that is incredibly good... so the others competing against this drugged horse, may not have scored as high, and that is a lot of $$$ to be lost. Also is sad that this horse was great enough to get those scores, inspite of some serious lameness issues. Also, and here is where some more cruelty comes in, he was very likely given massive amounts of bute... NSAID pain killer that they "may" compete with... (would have to check the USDF rules for certain, but in some events a little of this is ok... but any amount over even a weeks time can cause horrible gastric ulcers and internal bleeding, anemia, etc.. one could bet this horse has or had ulcers. But they all knew this and competed him anyways, and then... tried to sell him for $125,000! Talented as he was, he was broken and as a gelding (assuming here again...) but I did not read that he was a breeding stallion, so his value was really in just owning a treasure who was once great, who was broken. A lawn ornament. He was certainly not worth $125,000, at most, maybe $1500. Sad, but true. So blatant fraud on the part of vet, owners and trainers. They all knew. trainer took a hefty commission for that sale too. And worse for me to handle... is that vet, He had quite a good reputation there, very well known, yet he played very dirty here.... very... compromised not only his reputation, but likely his license too. And what and who motivated him to do this? Money talks and one could guess the Romneys paid this man off and well to lie about this horses pre purchase exam. And again, Romneys are still using same trainers, same vet.... shows zero class, they are only in it to win it, and at any cost to the horse, the sport, whatever it takes to win. And in Dressage, they have a nice reputation for not being an abusive or crooked sport.... or so I thought.
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  • joseph ... Dana 2012/06/29 18:22:52
  • Dana joseph ... 2012/06/29 21:03:29
    Dana
    Give them all the info... my posts too if they will help and if they need me or someone to do some research who knows the horse business and lingo better, send them to me. I can double check and triple check what I did write to make damn sure it is 100% accurate.... and help them decipher the legal documentation that was in the one link posted above. I am happy to help, pisses me off to see people think money is more important than fairness of play, and the quality of life for the poor animal. Them continually using him and competing with him at that level with the extensive injuries he had, only made him that much worse. he had the talent.... obviously... but he was broken too... and that is just unfair to the poor horse. Good luck! Send them my info if they need it... or PM me for contact info... :)
  • joseph ... Dana 2012/06/29 22:50:26
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾ 2012/06/28 02:04:11
    Neigh.
    ☥☽✪☾DAW ☽✪☾
  • joseph ... ☥☽✪☾DAW... 2012/06/28 02:38:06
  • Che Guevara - Hero 2012/06/28 01:18:32
    Neigh.
    Che Guevara - Hero
  • ☥☽✪☾DAW... Che Gue... 2012/06/28 02:03:22
  • joseph ... Che Gue... 2012/06/28 02:39:03
  • Skeptikat 2012/06/26 06:08:01
  • BaybeeKels' 2012/06/26 04:31:14
    Neigh.
    BaybeeKels'
    +2
    Why t'f should an abuser of ANYTHING be president?
  • ☆ElenaDiamond☆ 2012/06/26 03:17:40
    Arf, arf.
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
  • joseph ... ☆ElenaD... 2012/06/26 03:42:56 (edited)
  • ☆ElenaD... joseph ... 2012/06/26 12:20:41
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +2
    I imagine it is getting a bit stale. You liberals give free passes to your own.
  • Skeptikat ☆ElenaD... 2012/06/26 19:32:20
  • ☆ElenaD... Skeptikat 2012/06/26 19:32:50
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +1
    Barack Obama.
  • joseph ... ☆ElenaD... 2012/06/27 06:33:04
  • ☆ElenaD... joseph ... 2012/06/27 13:17:47
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +1
    nkay. I guess it disqualifies you if you are a democrat. Ok another well known democrat animal abuser. Michael Vick.
  • joseph ... ☆ElenaD... 2012/06/28 02:06:43
  • ☆ElenaD... joseph ... 2012/06/28 02:23:40
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    Nope check it out he is a registered democrat.
  • joseph ... ☆ElenaD... 2012/06/28 02:44:45
  • ☆ElenaD... joseph ... 2012/06/28 02:46:14
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    That wasn't the question. I am well aware of John Waye Gacy. The poster asked me to name one democrat who was an animal abuser. I simply obliged.
  • joseph ... ☆ElenaD... 2012/06/28 02:49:32
  • ☆ElenaD... joseph ... 2012/06/28 02:58:00
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    Er, perhaps the point was over your head. I was asked a question. My point was to provide an answer.

    I didn't think it seemed that difficult.
  • joseph ... ☆ElenaD... 2012/06/28 02:59:55
  • ☆ElenaD... joseph ... 2012/06/28 03:07:03
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    Oh, no surprise you don't understand the point of human existence. LOL.
  • joseph ... ☆ElenaD... 2012/06/28 03:12:15
  • ☆ElenaD... joseph ... 2012/06/28 03:14:23
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    Was that an insult? That is funny. I hope you are better at your job than you are at insulting.
  • joseph ... ☆ElenaD... 2012/06/28 03:21:39
  • ☆ElenaD... joseph ... 2012/06/28 03:33:26
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    LOL!! Why would I ever waste my time showing someone so unappreciative of humans my good side.
  • joseph ... ☆ElenaD... 2012/06/28 21:24:34
  • Skeptikat ☆ElenaD... 2012/06/26 06:11:08
  • ☆ElenaD... Skeptikat 2012/06/26 12:21:08
    ☆ElenaDiamond☆
    +1
    Only if they put up a fight.
  • joseph ... ☆ElenaD... 2012/06/27 06:34:14

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