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Should America's laws be written following Judeo-Christian values or should America be an entirely secular society, devoid of any decisions based upon Judeo-Christian moral values?

kyle 2008/09/21 18:07:39
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  • SparkleyPie 2008/09/21 18:11:02
    Secular Society
    SparkleyPie
    +6
    American laws are based on the laws of England which were in place long before Christians came to Europe.

    American should remain neutral on religious perspectives.

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  • Galileus 2009/02/13 01:42:12 (edited)
    Secular Society
    Galileus
    Societies based on Religion get extinct or surpassed fast.

    Religion by nature doesn't evolve. Secular and free thinking societies do.
  • Nunez Cabeza de Vaca 2009/01/27 18:37:20
  • terr 2008/11/01 21:51:18
    Judeo-Christian Values
    terr
    +1
    Our country was based on Christian values. The pilgrims were Christian outcasts from England.
  • Terry terr 2009/01/26 18:57:57
    Terry
    Yes and their kind of laws didn't work...read your history on The Puritans.
  • denialator 2008/10/17 22:43:45
    Judeo-Christian Values
    denialator
    +2
    "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams.

    "Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?" - Thomas Jefferson
  • mu_linlin7 denialator 2009/04/06 13:37:21 (edited)
    mu_linlin7
    "Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law." -Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

    Thomas Jefferson was a deist, not a Christian.
  • MS 2008/10/17 21:20:16 (edited)
    Secular Society
    MS
    +2
    Actually I don't care, I think laws should be based on common sense, simplicity and as few as possible
  • Will 2008/10/01 16:14:04
    Secular Society
    Will
    +1
    I don't like the way the answers are worded. We can have Constituional/secular laws and a religious society.

    Let's say we choose Judeo/Christian rules for our society; then we can't eat pork?

    Come on...this is a dumb distraction. Any rule that favors any religion is oppressive of others. That's not the fundamentals of our founding fathers or our Constitution; it's a created diversion for divisiveness and power for those who preach it. Secular rules do not create a non-religious society.

    Religion is a private issue. Our Constitution protects our privacy. When we make religion ab out controlling others, we defy our religious Christian principles, "Love they neighbor" even if they're Muslim.
  • Nernie 2008/09/28 00:53:49
    Secular Society
    Nernie
    +1
    you give only your choices,
    so I think you are loading and trying to censor the response
  • Harley † American 2008/09/23 06:30:11
    Judeo-Christian Values
    Harley  †  American
    +2
    America prospered under these laws, now many have been removed and America is being led astray!
  • LilHulk88 2008/09/23 02:40:24
    Secular Society
    LilHulk88
    +1
    Secular, we should be the beacon for all that feel suppressed, but they need to assimilate to the basic American society. My parents assimilated and my wife has, even while keeping some of the cultural traditions.
  • trader 2008/09/22 13:52:38
    Judeo-Christian Values
    trader
    +2
    I believe the constitution was done this way.
  • the dead redcoat 2008/09/22 11:58:59
    Secular Society
    the dead redcoat
    +1
    Holyoake invented the term "secularism" to describe his views of promoting a social order separate from religion, without actively dismissing or criticizing religious belief. I believe people should be allowed to follow their own path. Some need a structure to worship within others dont. Personally it is necessary eventually to get away from the structure and enter into a pure form of worship which is one of total surrender to the "power of Almighty God" Some of the older cultures had a secular political structure with an advisory spiritual structure. However then the people were probably closer to their inner selves and thus the Creator, Great Spirit , God , Jehovah Allah or whatever we humans have to call it to try and comprehend the never ending source of Love which is Great Spirit. However I dont believe society can be run without a moral framework and I dont believe Judeo -Christian values are not without their problems, Remember the Inquisition the burning of hereetics etc. Also dont forget that Islam has aspects of the Judeo- Christian beliefs too. These mentioned religions also seem to deny women their place in society as individuals with a contribution to make.
  • highdesertgemini 2008/09/22 05:48:17
    Judeo-Christian Values
    highdesertgemini
    +1
    This is one of the questions I couldn't answer on the quiz...

    We should not eliminate all Judeo-Christian values, nor should we discount other values.
  • Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥ 2008/09/22 00:58:36
    Judeo-Christian Values
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    +4
    For the sake of our country. Bad things will happen when we utterly forsake the God who provided for our Independence and Blessings.
  • Harley ... Dave Sa... 2008/09/23 06:32:22
    Harley  †  American
    +2
    It is so sad for those who are blinded by this fact!
  • Justagirl 2008/09/21 21:11:09
    Judeo-Christian Values
    Justagirl
    +4
    One Nation UNDER God.....and them that don't like it, can lump it! ;oP
  • Boris Badinov 2008/09/21 19:41:22
    Judeo-Christian Values
    Boris Badinov
    +4
    The alternative is a reed in the wind.
  • Ken "Don't tread on me!" 2008/09/21 19:40:38
    Judeo-Christian Values
    Ken "Don't tread on me!"
    +4
    If you bother to read the Old Testament, most of the areas of our modern day laws are covered in Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, including a great deal of contract law in addition to the obvious commandments against stealing and murdering. It would be difficult, if not impossible, to totally avoid the Judeo-Christian strictures when drafting modern statutes.
  • TxAggie93 2008/09/21 19:03:15
    Judeo-Christian Values
    TxAggie93
    +2
    Most civilized societies have adopted ancient Jewish laws as a foundation. Incorporating true Judeo-Christian values only becomes a problem if those laws become exclusionary of specific demographics.
  • ۩Osiris۩ Loves Isis forever 2008/09/21 18:36:19
    Judeo-Christian Values
    ۩Osiris۩ Loves Isis forever
    +5
    Interesting question. I think that the laws in America do follow a line of thinking and a philosophy that has Judeo-Christian underpinnings, but certainly NOT an enforced religion... and with the freedom of whatever religion... or no religion at all. The law is the law no matter what deity (or deities or no deity) one follows in the US.
  • Jwalden... ۩Osiris... 2008/09/21 19:02:05
    Jwalden --- Constitution Party
    +6
    I have just set a blog with quotes from the Founing Fathers' on the
    Importance of Morality and Religion in Government
    http://www.sodahead.com/blog/...

    Link and footnotes are provided.
  • Flowerbomb 2008/09/21 18:28:14
    Judeo-Christian Values
    Flowerbomb
    +4
    Even most of those that do not follow a Judeo or Christian religion follow their values although they would never admit it.
  • Jwalden --- Constitution Party 2008/09/21 18:24:51
    Judeo-Christian Values
    Jwalden --- Constitution Party
    +4
    The Founders' approved - We need to return.
    John Adams
    Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Second President of the United States

    [I]t is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue.

    (Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, 1854), Vol. IX, p. 401, to Zabdiel Adams on June 21, 1776.)

    [W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    (Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co. 1854), Vol. IX, p. 229, October 11, 1798.)

    The moment the idea is admitted into society, that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If "Thou shalt not covet," and "Thou shalt not steal," were not commandments of Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society, befor...
















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    The Founders' approved - We need to return.
    John Adams
    Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Second President of the United States

    [I]t is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue.

    (Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, 1854), Vol. IX, p. 401, to Zabdiel Adams on June 21, 1776.)

    [W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    (Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co. 1854), Vol. IX, p. 229, October 11, 1798.)

    The moment the idea is admitted into society, that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. If "Thou shalt not covet," and "Thou shalt not steal," were not commandments of Heaven, they must be made inviolable precepts in every society, before it can be civilized or made free.

    (Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Charles C. Little and James Brown, 1851), Vol. VI, p. 9.)
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    John Quincy Adams
    Sixth President of the United States

    The law given from Sinai was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code; it contained many statutes . . . of universal application-laws essential to the existence of men in society, and most of which have been enacted by every nation which ever professed any code of laws.

    (Source: John Quincy Adams, Letters of John Quincy Adams, to His Son, on the Bible and Its Teachings (Auburn: James M. Alden, 1850), p. 61.)
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    Fisher Ames

    Framer of the First Amendment

    Our liberty depends on our education, our laws, and habits . . . it is founded on morals and religion, whose authority reigns in the heart, and on the influence all these produce on public opinion before that opinion governs rulers.

    (Source: Fisher Ames, An Oration on the Sublime Virtues of General George Washington (Boston: Young & Minns, 1800), p. 23.)

    Charles Carroll of Carrollton

    Signer of the Declaration of Independence

    Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime & pure, [and] which denounces against the wicked eternal misery, and [which] insured to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.

    (Source: Bernard C. Steiner, The Life and Correspondence of James McHenry (Cleveland: The Burrows Brothers, 1907), p. 475. In a letter from Charles Carroll to James McHenry of November 4, 1800.)

    Oliver Ellsworth

    Chief-Justice of the Supreme Court

    [T]he primary objects of government are the peace, order, and prosperity of society. . . . To the promotion of these objects, particularly in a republican government, good morals are essential. Institutions for the promotion of good morals are therefore objects of legislative provision and support: and among these . . . religious institutions are eminently useful and important. . . . [T]he legislature, charged with the great interests of the community, may, and ought to countenance, aid and protect religious institutions—institutions wisely calculated to direct men to the performance of all the duties arising from their connection with each other, and to prevent or repress those evils which flow from unrestrained passion.

    (Source: Connecticut Courant, June 7, 1802, p. 3, Oliver Ellsworth, to the General Assembly of the State of Connecticut)

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  • Dave Sa... . . . . 2008/09/22 01:00:29
    Dave Sawyer ♥ Child of God ♥
    +2
    We can't even deport illegal aliens, who are probably religious.
  • Ambracia 2008/09/21 18:14:56
    Secular Society
    Ambracia
    +1
    It should be based on the values of the people.
  • TxAggie93 Ambracia 2008/09/21 19:04:59
    TxAggie93
    +3
    The majority of the people? What happens to the minority if the those laws are biased and do not offer equal rights and protection to all members within that society?
  • morning40oz~mad as hell 2008/09/21 18:12:56
    Judeo-Christian Values
    morning40oz~mad as hell
    +5
    No more than the Judeo-Christian values that are in place right now. What is really needed is for the laws to be enforced. I don't think we necessarily need more laws.
  • SparkleyPie 2008/09/21 18:11:02
    Secular Society
    SparkleyPie
    +6
    American laws are based on the laws of England which were in place long before Christians came to Europe.

    American should remain neutral on religious perspectives.
  • trader Sparkle... 2008/09/22 13:55:50
    trader
    There were many reforms brought about in England by the bible. Thanks to King James for the translation into common tongue. Not that all was just peachy before you go there. ; )

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