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Should Americans that chose to leave the USA vote in elections?

Art August 04, 2008 19:07:24

Gwyneth tells Americans abroad to vote for Obama



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/bar...
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  • +7 raves Jwalden --- Constitution Party August 04, 2008 21:58:20
    Jwalden --- Constitution Party

    No

    If a citizen of any country leaves their home country [taking their citizenship there], then they relinquish their privilege to influence the elections of their birth country --Regardless of where they are from or going to. If you transfer your citizenship then you by default transfer your patriotism.
    That is not saying the person is 'evil', merely that the person has made a responsible decision and therefore should be responsible enough to live with their decision.
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  • +2 raves
    headclue August 05, 2008 13:52:49
    headclue

    Yes

    Unfortunately, yes. Just tune 'em out, that's what I do.
  • +2 raves
    Jebrel August 05, 2008 13:36:06
    Jebrel

    Yes

    Yeah, if they are still citizens!
  • +2 raves
    CZAR JAG August 05, 2008 11:44:22
    CZAR JAG

    Yes

    If they are still American citizens they have that right. So yes.
  • +3 raves
    judeee August 05, 2008 07:07:54
    judeee

    No

    I don't need a Famous Person telling me how to vote... I don't believe that their opinion is anymore thought out than mine... I also don't think Employers or Labor Unions or anyone else should tell People how to vote... Everyone should make an informed decision and know their Candidates and their Records... But unfortunately there are people that are lazy and want someone else to make their decisions, is that the Democratic Way, I think so????
  • +4 raves
    Obsidian83 August 05, 2008 05:59:18
    Obsidian83

    No

    They should vote in the country that they reside in. Why on Earth they choose to live in another country I don't care, but if they don't live here, they shouldn't vote, no matter how special they think they are.
    Unless they are one of our brave military personnel, they should not be counted.
  • +3 raves
    This Much August 05, 2008 05:49:00
    This Much

    Yes

    You bet - if they are Americans, over 18, and no felonies vote for whoever you want - as for the Obama add - 10 bucks she will forget to vote so dont worry about it
  • +4 raves
    Malibulorie August 05, 2008 02:55:59
    Malibulorie

    No

    If they ain't here livin with the rules then they don't need to vote!
  • +2 raves
    WhatTheFrenchToast?!?! August 05, 2008 02:42:35
    WhatTheFrenchToast?!?!

    Yes

    If they are still a US citizen (not w/ a dual citizenship either - pick one and go on with your life)... I think that getting the message out to people that will be overseas was a good idea, hopefully this will remind ALL voters to get out there and vote - regardless of who they are voting for...
  • +5 raves
    old mccain August 05, 2008 00:37:21
    old mccain

    No

    Don't even have to listen or watch the video, this was a simple, NO
  • +3 raves
    wolfshadow August 04, 2008 23:30:02
    wolfshadow

    Yes

    People work and live in other countries for many reasons...that doesn't mean they give up their rights as Americans. Those that denounce their citizenship give up those rights but just moving away doesn't,
  • +4 raves
    Republic of Honor August 04, 2008 23:25:27
    Republic of Honor

    No

    If you sacrifice your citizenship you dont get to vote its that easy!
  • +4 raves
    Roxie August 04, 2008 23:10:11
    Roxie

    Yes

    Sure why not!?
  • +6 raves
    art.and.apples August 04, 2008 22:39:58
    art.and.apples

    No

    i don't believe in "dual" citizenship. you're either with us or against us. freakin' traitors!
  • +1 raves
    cRightwingNut cRight babies... August 04, 2008 22:08:12
    cRightwingNut cRight babies beware!!

    Yes

    It's called ABSENTEE....they've always had the right to vote.
  • +2 raves
    art.and... cRightw... August 04, 2008 23:28:04
    art.and.apples
    if your travelling, and you're going to miss the general election, i understand because i have to vote that way due to the nature of my job. it's people with dual citizenship that shouldn't be allowed to vote here!
  • +7 raves
    Jwalden --- Constitution Party August 04, 2008 21:58:20
    Jwalden --- Constitution Party

    No

    If a citizen of any country leaves their home country [taking their citizenship there], then they relinquish their privilege to influence the elections of their birth country --Regardless of where they are from or going to. If you transfer your citizenship then you by default transfer your patriotism.
    That is not saying the person is 'evil', merely that the person has made a responsible decision and therefore should be responsible enough to live with their decision.
    transfer patriotism person evil person responsible decision responsible live decision
  • +3 raves
    Bear Jwalden... August 04, 2008 22:10:16
    Bear
    The United States allows dual citizenship. I know people who live in, and are citizens of New Zealand but they have never had to give up their U.S. citizenship.
  • +4 raves
    Jwalden... Bear August 04, 2008 22:12:51
    Jwalden --- Constitution Party
    that can be understood from a liberty standpoint, I do think that it can leave the door open for potential patriotism problems.

    Appreciate the lesson.
  • +3 raves
    John August 04, 2008 21:26:37
    John

    Yes

    I think the issue is citizenship... If that is renounced then they lose the right to vote.... if they leave never intending to return and establish a domicile in a foreign nation, that is a different story and we should consider taking away the vote from people who have effectively if not expressly renounced their citizenship....
  • +5 raves
    spunkysmum ~ Tall In the S... August 04, 2008 21:15:33
    spunkysmum ~  Tall In the Saddle, White Hat on Straight ~

    Yes

    My mother lived in Canada for about 25 years after she married my father. I remember her explaining to me once that she could vote by proxy if she chose to. I don't know that she ever did but I would have wanted it to count if she had.

    I believe that to retain the right to vote in U.S. elections you have to forfeit the right to vote anywhere else? I remember signing an agreement to do so when I registered, which meant I was giving up the right to vote in Canada, which I never had anyway.
  • +6 raves
    Bill - Buffalo Soldier August 04, 2008 21:09:17 (edited)
    Bill - Buffalo Soldier

    Yes

    I don't have a problem with Americans voting from anywhere and I think Gwyneth has probably used too much hair dye. I do wish there was more done to insure that our military (the ones who defend all our right to vote) were accorded the same quest for liberty as the idiot movie stars.
  • +4 raves
    Ginny August 04, 2008 20:36:25
    Ginny

    Yes

    Yes, they should be able to still vote. They still retain their citizenship, then they have the right.
  • +3 raves
    ronnie August 04, 2008 20:31:43
    ronnie

    No

    If their companies transferred them out of the country or they are in the military, then yes allow them to vote. If the left on their own to get away from this country, then NO, they don't have a right to vote!!!
  • +3 raves
    spunkys... ronnie August 04, 2008 21:16:58
    spunkysmum ~  Tall In the Saddle, White Hat on Straight ~
    Yes, remember how Al Gore and his merry band of thugs tried to disqualify as many overseas votes as possible.
  • +3 raves
    Icedragon1969 August 04, 2008 20:26:00
    Icedragon1969

    Yes

    If they are citizens of the United States of America still, they should be able to vote in Presidential elections. I would argue the opposite side of the case with regards to Congressmen though. On that point they are no longer residents of any of the States or territories and should have no voice in a State's voice in the Congress.
  • +2 raves
    Mike Higashi August 04, 2008 20:15:06
    Mike Higashi

    No

    Absolutely NOT!!! They leave, They no longer want to be an American Citizen, They Lose...NO VOTE FOR THEM! Can't have it both ways!
  • +3 raves
    Marianne August 04, 2008 20:03:53
    Marianne

    Yes

    Leaving a country doesn't mean you don't care about what is going on there.
  • Art Marianne August 04, 2008 21:22:57
    Art
    Yes it does.

    I believe you should dance with your date.

    We have too much influence on elections by people that don't live here.
  • +1 raves
    Marianne Art August 04, 2008 21:47:10
    Marianne
    I don't think you can state that with such authority without knowing what is going on with every single person who lives in different countries.
  • +1 raves
    Art Marianne August 04, 2008 22:04:04
    Art
    We have a country that is in full decline because on internationalism.

    I wonder how the world will be when Russia and China are the dominant nations in the world?
  • +1 raves
    Marianne Art August 05, 2008 19:00:57
    Marianne
    Is that the only reason why it's on decline?

    I have an irrational fear of Asia.
  • +1 raves
    Art Marianne August 05, 2008 21:55:01
    Art
    A little more than that but certainly there can be no USA as we know it when a majority of the people here live by the rules of multiculturalism.
  • +2 raves
    JESUS WAS A COMMUNITY ORGAN... August 04, 2008 20:02:47
    JESUS WAS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, PILATE WAS A REPUBLICAN

    Yes

    If they are still citizens of this country, living abroad for whatever reason (work or school related, perhaps) then they have every right to vote.
  • +2 raves
    steve August 04, 2008 19:50:39
    steve

    Yes

    They have to report earnings to the IRS and are still subject to US laws so they have every right to vote
  • Art steve August 04, 2008 21:23:35
    Art
    Gwyneth Paltrow reports earnings to the IRS?
  • steve Art August 04, 2008 22:10:07
    steve
    I hope so; I am not saying it is a perfect system but it is the law.
    I posted the IRS link for people working overseas below
  • +4 raves
    chainsaw August 04, 2008 19:46:36
    chainsaw

    No

    Not Gwinny, she's no longer American. Her words: "I love the English lifestyle, it's not as capitalistic as America. People don't talk about work and money, they talk about interesting things at dinner. I like living here because I don't fit into the bad side of American psychology. The British are much more intelligent and civilized than the Americans."

    Working abroad and deciding to live abroad are two different things. I believe I answered the question as it was asked.
  • +3 raves
    Bill - ... chainsaw August 04, 2008 21:11:06
    Bill - Buffalo Soldier
    Isn't it interesting that people who make millions dislike capitalistic America. Hello, anyone home??
  • +2 raves
    spunkys... Bill - ... August 04, 2008 21:22:04
    spunkysmum ~  Tall In the Saddle, White Hat on Straight ~
    Perhaps they feel a kinship with a land that features a class of "royalty" who have done nothing of real value to gain their status.
  • +3 raves
    spunkys... chainsaw August 04, 2008 21:20:53
    spunkysmum ~  Tall In the Saddle, White Hat on Straight ~
    The average IQ of the American electorate would go up if she forfeited her right to vote.

    I agree that somebody who makes statements like this shouldn't have their vote count, but I don't know how we could fairly differentiate between people like her and people like my mother, who moved to Canada to marry the man she loved but never renounced or denounced the US in the years she was away.
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