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Should American Airlines ordered a woman off because offensive Pro-Choice T-Shirt?

★~DoctorWhoGuru~★ 2012/05/24 04:02:22
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On Monday, a woman wearing a T-shirt that read “If I wanted the government in my womb, I’d f--- a senator” on an American Airlines flight was reportedly told by the captain that she should not have been allowed to board and would need to change her shirt before boarding a connecting flight.

According to a story first reported by RH Reality Check, the woman, identified only as “O,” was flying home from Washington, D.C., when a flight attendant told her she needed to speak to the captain.

“When I was leaving the plane the captain stepped off with me and told me I should not have been allowed to board the plane in D.C. and needed to change before boarding my next flight,” she told RH Reality Check. “This conversation led to me missing my connecting flight.”

In response, American spokesman Tim Smith replied via e-mail: “The only reason she was asked to cover up her T-shirt was the appearance of the 'F-word' on the T-shirt. The [pro-choice] message is irrelevant to our policy and had no bearing in our crew’s decision to ask her to cover up the F-word. The outcome would have been exactly the same had the message been anti-abortion.”


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  • Mrs. Kathy Arch 2012/05/24 04:16:24
    Yes
    Mrs. Kathy Arch
    +7
    The airline has every right to request that someone wearing a shirt that might be perceived as offensive either change, or cover up, or not board. Southwest does it all the time. First Amendment rights do not really enter into it. Their plane, their decision on the appropriateness of attire on passengers. And if that offends you, fly another airline that isn't as strict.

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  • littlebuffalo55TBA 2012/06/23 03:28:17
    Yes
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +1
    Yes! It's an Aircraft provided by a Private Company who flies passengers of all persuasions and as such they have a responsibility to best facilitate that!

    Free Speech is one thing. Being an obtuse idiot is another!
  • Brosia 2012/06/22 02:30:07
    No
    Brosia
    +2
    I thought we had something called the First Amendment in this country. If the KKK can have a march, in full regalia, then this woman can wear a swear on her boobs. And nice boobs, by the way.
  • littleb... Brosia 2012/06/23 03:31:27
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +1
    Sorry....the KKK marches on a public street! That Aircraft is not owned by the Public! Trust me American Airlines is not going to let a KKK member on board knowingly if the person is wearing a "Burn Blacky" T-shirt!
  • Brosia littleb... 2012/06/23 04:11:18
    Brosia
    But you could make the argument that her wearing the shirt is her first amendment right to express herself.
  • littleb... Brosia 2012/06/23 04:12:55
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +1
    She is on Private Property!
  • Brosia littleb... 2012/06/24 13:46:29
    Brosia
    First amendment rights...and a plane is not private property.
  • littleb... Brosia 2012/08/30 06:02:41
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    Huh? The Aircraft IS owned by the Airline! Who either bought it or is leasing it from a Leasing Company that owns it!

    It's obvious you are wholly unaware of how airlines work!
  • Wolf97 2012/06/06 20:53:09
    No
    Wolf97
    +2
    Freedom of speech. If it had been Pro-Life she would have been fine.
  • beach bum 2012/05/27 02:36:06
    No
    beach bum
    +1
    no, it is yet another form of censorship
  • Jayfeather 2012/05/26 20:50:05
    Yes
    Jayfeather
    +1
    This has nothing to do with my stance on abortion. If you are going on an airplane, where there are families and children about, you cannot have a shirt with sexually explicit, or otherwise offensive material on it.
  • Melizmatic Jayfeather 2012/06/22 16:18:55
    Melizmatic
    Where does it say that in the TSA's guidelines?
  • Jayfeather Melizmatic 2012/06/23 03:14:54 (edited)
    Jayfeather
    It's not the TSA. It's the Supreme Court. According to Miller v. California (1973), free speech can be restricted when the speech is obscene. The t-shirt is sexually explicit, and as a result, the speech can be restricted. Also, let's not forget that American Airlines is a private organisation, and as a result, it is their discretion as to what's acceptable and what's not.
  • Melizmatic Jayfeather 2012/06/23 03:21:02
    Melizmatic
    Groovy.
  • LEFT IS NOT RIGHT 2012/05/26 11:20:05 (edited)
    No
    LEFT IS NOT RIGHT
    +2
    I feel the T-shirt was offensive and crass, and I don't agree with her, but she still has the right to express her opinions!

    On the other hand, the airline has the right to determine certain guidelines regarding attire on board THEIR planes - and I think, in cases like this, a comprimise is what's needed.

    It is a very slippery slope, but it is also scary how intollerant and restrictive our society has become!

    thought police
  • AskZilla 2012/05/25 21:04:54
    Yes
    AskZilla
    +1
    LOL! Freakin' hilarious. The F word is the problem here. It might have something to do with her huge boobs in a very tight t-shirt too.
  • Lindsey 2012/05/25 20:24:46
  • Jayfeather Lindsey 2012/05/26 20:52:10
    Jayfeather
    She was not thrown out for her opinion. She was thrown out because it has the F-word on it, in a context that is sexually inclined.
  • Lindsey Jayfeather 2012/05/27 04:32:56
  • Jayfeather Lindsey 2012/05/27 16:45:21
    Jayfeather
    How could you be sure that no one complained?
  • Lindsey Jayfeather 2012/05/27 23:21:54
    Lindsey
    Well based on the facts given, I assume no one did. But maybe they did, I don't know but I'm made my choice based on my initial assumptions
  • ehrhornp 2012/05/25 01:59:06
    No
    ehrhornp
    +1
    As if she could change her shirt. If anything she should have just been told that some people who are un-american and don't believe in freedom are offended and if she could just wear her t-shiirt inside out, it would be appreciated. Give her free drinks etc. and problem should be solved.
  • Jayfeather ehrhornp 2012/05/26 20:55:23
    Jayfeather
    +1
    Did you READ the article? They only told her to remove a shirt which refers directly to sex. Apparently, she did not comply, and was thrown out as a result
  • ehrhornp Jayfeather 2012/05/28 22:58:56
    ehrhornp
    So she should have just gone topless? She was kicked off at a connecting flight. As if she could change her clothes right there in the middle of the airport.
  • Jayfeather ehrhornp 2012/05/30 02:41:59
    Jayfeather
    She could go to the bathroom.
  • ehrhornp Jayfeather 2012/05/30 17:16:25
    ehrhornp
    Her clothes were probably on the plane. She probably had nothing to change into.
  • Jayfeather ehrhornp 2012/05/30 20:39:16
    Jayfeather
    She could go to the bathroom and turn her shirt inside out.
  • ehrhornp Jayfeather 2012/05/30 20:54:03
    ehrhornp
    I think I would prefer her topless. lol
  • Jayfeather ehrhornp 2012/05/30 21:21:34
    Jayfeather
    As I guy, I would too. Personally, I think it's dumb that toplessness isn't more widespread. It would be less sexual if it were normal to be shirtless.
  • ehrhornp Jayfeather 2012/05/31 01:27:41
    ehrhornp
    How true.
  • LADY LIBERTY SILLY WORDSMITH 2012/05/25 00:09:29
    No
    LADY LIBERTY SILLY WORDSMITH
    +3
    IT'S HER FREEDOM of SPEECH!
  • Jayfeather LADY LI... 2012/05/26 20:55:49 (edited)
    Jayfeather
    +1
    To wear a shirt which discusses sex while in the presence of families and children? They did not kick her off for the message. They kicked her off because her shirt talked about having sex with a senator.
  • Frannin 2012/05/24 21:53:14
    No
    Frannin
    +2
    Sounds like something akin to "police state" mentality.
  • Jayfeather Frannin 2012/05/26 20:57:21
    Jayfeather
    When I have a family, *I* would not want them to see a shirt which talks about f---ing a senator.
  • Vitalani 2012/05/24 21:27:40
    Yes
    Vitalani
    +3
    The pro-choice element doesn't matter. It's the swear word that is the problem.
  • lonewolf 2012/05/24 19:09:51
    No
    lonewolf
    +1
    Just put duck tape on it! It fixes everything!
  • Jayfeather lonewolf 2012/05/26 20:57:42
    Jayfeather
    +1
    but she didn't That's why she was kicked.
  • lonewolf Jayfeather 2012/06/01 15:51:14
    lonewolf
    someone has duct tape up there, they should have shared.
  • Jayfeather lonewolf 2012/06/01 23:37:15
    Jayfeather
    Indeed.
  • socokid 2012/05/24 16:38:44
    No
    socokid
    +2
    But, that's not what they did.

    They ordered her off the plane for having the F word displayed for everyone to see, even children.

    As a private company they most certainly do not have to stand for that. At all. I am 100% pro choice, but this has nothing to to with it. They did the right thing by merely asking her cover it up, or put on a different shirt.
  • Spider 2012/05/24 14:40:31
    No
    Spider
    +4
    She had already been permitted to board her initial flight. Doing this over a connecting flight is cruel given what we go through for the privilege of boarding a plane. The Captain needs to be reprimanded or fined for his apparent personal problems. And that is exactly what this was, a personal problem.

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