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Should 13 and 14 year old killers be sentenced to life without parole?

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  • Elementer 2012/05/21 21:35:30 (edited)
    No, it seems like cruel and unusual punishment
    Elementer
    +3
    They're young, so there's a greater chance for them to be rehabilitated.

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  • Pinky 2013/03/04 15:38:33
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    Pinky
    I think by the age of 13 to 14 a person should have enough morals to know right from wrong. There fore they should be accountable and be sentenced.
  • Yo'Adrienne..AFCL 2013/03/04 00:18:12
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    Let this be a lesson to ALL>>>>>>>>>>>>of all ages.
    You do the crime.....you do the time......
  • jodawn 2012/05/29 12:14:42
    No, it seems like cruel and unusual punishment
    jodawn
    +1
    It should depend on the case. They need to look at each crime differently and why the crime was commited. If they have been abused over the years it's hard to go to police or anyone to tell them what happened. If they just shot someone for fun or during a robbery that I would say yes, but they need to go case by case. I know they want a law in place but they need some exceptions and the children to a place they can get help. Some children don't feel like they have a choice in abuse cases. They need help in an center where they can get help and they can lock them in there. But life for them maybe not.
  • sglmom 2012/05/24 10:30:07
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    sglmom
    Quite frankly ..
    these 12 and 13 yr olds are well aware of what they are doing ..
    when they pick up the weapons .. and use them to KILL ..
    they should face the Death Penalty ..
    it is clear .. what happens when death comes ..
    (they willingly chose to commit the crimes .. they need to face the same sentencing as any adult that knowingly murders another)
  • D.C.Verdone 2012/05/23 15:45:39 (edited)
    No, it seems like cruel and unusual punishment
    D.C.Verdone
    +2
    They are old enough to know what they did is wrong but if you have a child killer, they should not be made to do an adult sentence. Now they do need to take steps to make sure it never happens again.

    -----------edit----------
    I am NOT saying this kid should get off completely. They should have to check in with an officer or something like that every day in the morning and go over what they are doing for the rest of the day. The kid is obviously not right in the head and that should be fixed RIGHT AWAY!
  • chrisst 2012/05/23 14:37:00
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    chrisst
    +1
    If they are old enough to kill someone then they are old enough to die. They need to man up and take the punishment they got coming to them, whether it be death or not.
  • D.C.Ver... chrisst 2012/05/23 15:48:10
    D.C.Verdone
    They are not "Men" in the first place so how can they man up for death when they don't even understand the mechanics of exactly how bad their crime was? If we follow that logic then at age 13 kids should be able to smoke right? Since they are old enough in your eyes to be put to death.
  • chrisst D.C.Ver... 2012/05/23 20:25:49 (edited)
    chrisst
    +2
    They know fully well what they did so they should know fully well what is going to happen once they get caught. Just because they are kids doesnt mean they should get off easy. Some kids might learn but most of them are messed up to the point that they shouldnt be allowed into normal society just like every other sick person that commits a crime to get life in jail. People always try to let kids off easy because they are smaller dont know better, well that just completely bull, cant grow up if you dont teach them consequences of bad behavior
  • D.C.Ver... chrisst 2012/05/23 20:52:43
    D.C.Verdone
    They should at least get parole but the question states no parole.

    How can they learn something other than not to drop the soap when they have life in prison starting at 14 years?

    If they are that young committing crimes then you are right, they are sick and need HELP too.

    You just say lock them up when they are so young for the rest of their lives. If you truly thought they needed to learn a lesson then life in prison would not be the obvious choice.
  • chrisst D.C.Ver... 2012/05/24 13:06:54
    chrisst
    +3
    Being in prision for the rest of their life is a lesson. Every action has a consequence and they should have thought about that before they commit the crime. People every day make the right choice they shouls be able to too. If they are sick they can get help in prison and they will have plenty of time to think about it
  • D.C.Ver... chrisst 2012/05/24 13:51:05
    D.C.Verdone
    If they do get rehabilitated then why not also have parole? I guess that's my whole argument. Its not so much that they go to jail but to stay in jail for their whole life is crazy when and if they get themselves right can be a good addition to society.
  • chrisst D.C.Ver... 2012/05/24 18:01:46
    chrisst
    +1
    Conqequences are consequences... Even if a person is rehibilitated Id rather them stay in jail. One less dangerous person off the street
  • Ronnie 2012/05/23 14:35:51
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    Ronnie
    +1
    This is probably not his first offense.
    I doubt they would throw the book at someone for a first timer.i'll sleep safer tonight with people like this in prison
  • Monda Williams 2012/05/23 14:16:26
    No, it seems like cruel and unusual punishment
    Monda Williams
    +1
    No. Children can be redeemed. Its wrong to throw away children and young people.
  • Ninjaman 2012/05/23 13:55:06 (edited)
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    Ninjaman
    +1
    I too am a Christian. I firmly believe that we all live in sin and God is well aware of this. Before we jump to a conclusion and say that these are just kids and that its not right, I would like you all to stop and think. A 14 year old just beat your mother, daughter or some other loved one. Then set their house on fire, while your loved on is still alive, and let them burn to death. Now this is not just some random story, but one of your children or loved ones that just dies a horrific and painful death at the hands of a 14 year old. Your loved one will never be back, will never get paroled from death, will never see another birthday or prom or smile again because of this 14 year olds action. As far life in prison, my thinking is this... If you are willing to commit cold blooded murder, to burn someone alive and you are only 14 years old, you are capable of doing it again. Where do we draw the line with innocent people being killed? One, two, ten before we finally lock them up for good? And your arguement of the parents? Yes, the parents are responsible for raising this child, but at 14, you know that murder isnt right. At 14, there should be no question in your mind that you shouldnt be lighting a structure on fire and leaving someone inside to burn to death!! The parents ar...

    I too am a Christian. I firmly believe that we all live in sin and God is well aware of this. Before we jump to a conclusion and say that these are just kids and that its not right, I would like you all to stop and think. A 14 year old just beat your mother, daughter or some other loved one. Then set their house on fire, while your loved on is still alive, and let them burn to death. Now this is not just some random story, but one of your children or loved ones that just dies a horrific and painful death at the hands of a 14 year old. Your loved one will never be back, will never get paroled from death, will never see another birthday or prom or smile again because of this 14 year olds action. As far life in prison, my thinking is this... If you are willing to commit cold blooded murder, to burn someone alive and you are only 14 years old, you are capable of doing it again. Where do we draw the line with innocent people being killed? One, two, ten before we finally lock them up for good? And your arguement of the parents? Yes, the parents are responsible for raising this child, but at 14, you know that murder isnt right. At 14, there should be no question in your mind that you shouldnt be lighting a structure on fire and leaving someone inside to burn to death!! The parents are to blame for the values they instill or dont instill in this person, but at 14, you know that murder is wrong. As far as self defense, that could well be, but that would be something to bring up in the trial. Lighting a fire to a structure after you beat someone inside and leave them to die, DOESNT sound like self defense. Self defense ends when you have the chance to walk away from the situation. Beating someone in a fight could very well qualify, burning the structure with that person inside after you have a chance to walk away does not. I do agree that life in prison is harsh, but this person has taken the life of someone else. NOT self defense, but chosen to KILL someone and take away everything for that person. That person is dead forever now. What about them?

    A few years ago oversees, two underage boys took a child from a store. This was on video cameras. They walked this child for several miles. Crying, scared and looking for his mother. When they were finally finished having fun, they laid him across a RR track and let the train kill him. These two kids turned 18, were released from jail, given new identities and are now free. The child of course is still dead, the family will have to live with that forever. And because these two boys wanted to have fun, this child will never grow up, never know love, never have a date or goto the prom. Will never have his first kiss with a girl he likes. All thats gone and these two boys are free, AND have new identities. You can take steps to prevent it from happening again. But what message did we send to this child? Your killers are free to live their lives, we miss you, but they were kids when they killed you, so we are going to overlook it now... Read a story on the torture of Sylvia Likens from Indianapolis, In. If either of these two were related to you, do you still think you would say no to this question?
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  • Eh Poli... Ninjaman 2012/07/31 11:06:10
  • Dawn 2012/05/23 13:41:29
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    Dawn
    +2
    We have so many people that are not held accountable for their actions. How about the ones that get off because they have star power or are rich? Drunk? High?
  • johnnysweets 2012/05/23 13:39:18
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    johnnysweets
    +2
    Let them rot in jail untill they die
  • Ronald Gibson 2012/05/23 13:20:36
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    Ronald Gibson
    +1
    I suggest people watch a show on BIO called I Survived...
    You will really see how cruel human beings can be.
  • Rita 2012/05/23 13:08:58
    No, it seems like cruel and unusual punishment
    Rita
    +1
    What good comes out of locking a 14 yr. old away forever? None. Maybe they never had a chance at a decent life. Maybe they thought they were threatened, or someone they loved was. Every case is different and should be treated as such. But with the overload of court cases if you don't have money or aren't famous forget it. You're screwed. They'll throw the book at you.
  • jfclink... Rita 2012/05/23 14:35:41
    jfclinkscales
    +2
    thats bullsh-t , they should never see the light of day again/rot in prison !!!!
  • Rita jfclink... 2012/05/30 16:49:31
    Rita
    +1
    I have personal experiece with a child that's in jail. He's really never had a chance. And since I don't have money and I'm not a well known celeb I have no way to help him except call him and tell him I love him. So if you haven't walked a mile in my shoes and experience the heartache I am you should just shut up.
  • Andrea Sandoval 2012/05/23 13:07:21
    No, it seems like cruel and unusual punishment
    Andrea Sandoval
    +1
    "Father, Forgive them, for they know not what they do." The son of God once said these words. Adults should suffer the consequences, they know right from wrong. Charles Manson was able to get numerous parole hearings, so none for kids is not right. Serious indepth rehabilitation should be done. Should the PARENTS be charged with how they raised their child and being responsible for NEGLECT, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, CHILD ABUSE? Were they sexually assaulted, beaten and/or starved? Children are not born 'monsters' and most of us would not hit, starve or abuse our precious gifts, but we read it everyday about the horrific experiences these children go through, turning them into a 'monster'. PROSECUTE THE PARENTS FOR THEIR OBVIOUS NEGLECT AND ABUSE AND MAYBE WE WON'T HAVE LITTLE 'MONSTERS' IN HE MAKING.
  • Ronald ... Andrea ... 2012/05/23 13:13:20
    Ronald Gibson
    +1
    Oh my universe. Enough with the religious absurdities. Why is it that smart people (not assuming you are) loose all sense when god is brought into the picture?
  • Cecilia 2012/05/23 12:28:15
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    Cecilia
    +2
    Yes, death sentence / life without parole. If they're doing wrong things like naughty kids would do, like driving dad/mom's car & speeding, drink & drive, fighting, threats, stealing, drugs, etc, then I would say rehabilitate them. But if they're doing horrific crimes like bad adults would do, like hurting/torturing someone with weapons, killing people, kidnapping, rapes, etc, yes, it should be either death sentence / life without parole.
  • ronald.tash1 2012/05/23 12:27:38
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    ronald.tash1
    +2
    do the crime do the time,that simple
  • Land of... ronald.... 2012/05/23 12:59:53
    Land of the Greedy
    +4
    Forget that pal. They should be executed...not living off public money languishing in some public prison, or earning money for some private prison. Wake up. Watch a documentary or two.
  • carl.congdon 2012/05/23 12:01:01
    No, it seems like cruel and unusual punishment
    carl.congdon
    I'd like to see life without parole reserved as a "nuclear option" for the worst offenders, on the condition that the death penalty goes away to die. But I'd be very, very cautious about invoking it.
  • Edwin 2012/05/22 23:16:49
    No, it seems like cruel and unusual punishment
    Edwin
    who knows what kind of life this young person had before a crime was committed.yes this young person and anyone who commits a crime of this magnitude should be punished but in most cases I think parole should be an option,definately not the death penalty.young children are so easily miss guided.
  • david 2012/05/22 23:10:11
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    david
    +2
    do an adult crime do adult time
  • naketa 2012/05/22 19:18:31
    No, it seems like cruel and unusual punishment
    naketa
    +2
    They are minors and brain hasn't develops all the way. they should be punish but not without parole.
  • Land of... naketa 2012/05/23 13:02:26
    Land of the Greedy
    +3
    And you think that their undeveloped brain will eventually develop into a more decent individual? Uh, I don't think so. To start out so young being so malicious tells me they should be executed right off the bat, not languishing in some public prison costing taxpayer money, or in some private prison earning such place more revenue.
  • jfclink... naketa 2012/05/23 14:47:50
    jfclinkscales
    +2
    you are right they are minors" the little S.O.Bs" you say their brain hasn't developed all the way.you and i know your full of sh-t. in 4 years they will be concidered adults ready for they adult world,ready do go off to war to defend our nation,with a good chance of losing life or limb in so doing.why should the law abiding young adults have to defend a person whoe's thash of parents thought them to live and act like animals.
  • trainman55 2012/05/22 18:16:13
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    trainman55
    +2
    If they did the crime, make them do the time! Never let one of these precocious thugs back in a society of people who respect the law for their entire lives, otherwise we are ALL being penalized.
  • brenda 2012/05/22 17:40:40
    No, it seems like cruel and unusual punishment
    brenda
    +1
    This should explain a lot:

    At the time of birth, most of the brain's cells are developed and almost all of the neurons the brain will ever have are present. However, these cells and neurons are not fully connected within the brain and require additional time to form their connections.

    Braing Weight
    By age 2, the child's brain is about 80% of its adult size at approximately 1,120 grams in males. The brain reaches its maximum weight between age 19 and 21 and then begins to gradually lose small amounts of weight after age 50.

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    By the time a child is 3, the brain has formed nearly 1,000 trillion neural connections, which is about twice as many as the adult brain has. Around the age of 11, the brain will begin to gradually rid itself of unnecessary and inefficient connections.

    Brain Development
    Although the brain reaches its full adult weight by the age of 21, it continues to develop for several years. In fact, a study done by the National Institutes of Health found that the region of brain that inhibits risky behavior does not fully form until age 25. This is the final stage of brain development


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    This should explain a lot:

    At the time of birth, most of the brain's cells are developed and almost all of the neurons the brain will ever have are present. However, these cells and neurons are not fully connected within the brain and require additional time to form their connections.

    Braing Weight
    By age 2, the child's brain is about 80% of its adult size at approximately 1,120 grams in males. The brain reaches its maximum weight between age 19 and 21 and then begins to gradually lose small amounts of weight after age 50.

    Sponsored Links

    Find Your Dosha Type
    Take the Dosha Quiz and discover your unique mind-body type now.

    Store.Chopra.comNeural Connections
    By the time a child is 3, the brain has formed nearly 1,000 trillion neural connections, which is about twice as many as the adult brain has. Around the age of 11, the brain will begin to gradually rid itself of unnecessary and inefficient connections.

    Brain Development
    Although the brain reaches its full adult weight by the age of 21, it continues to develop for several years. In fact, a study done by the National Institutes of Health found that the region of brain that inhibits risky behavior does not fully form until age 25. This is the final stage of brain development


    Read more: At What Age Is the Human Brain Fully Developed? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_637...
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  • Land of... brenda 2012/05/23 13:02:58
    Land of the Greedy
    +3
    And you think that their undeveloped brain will eventually develop into a more decent individual? Uh, I don't think so.
  • ed 2012/05/22 16:43:05
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    ed
    Unfortunatley our justice system is and continues to be BROKEN! In no case should a juvenile under the legal age of 18 be prosecuted as an adult. First you must understand that our system of just is constantly being eroded and mared by polititians who run for office using our justice sytem as there platform to get elected. Having said that lets break it down, first take the coment from the previous poster, Dake, "They made a choice to kill someone" do you really think looking back in your own life on those times when you were so upset with someone you just wanted to hurt them for something they had done to you or caused to happen to you. Obviously we all can remeber those times, but did we do anything to that person, did we physically harm them in some manor? Probably 99 percent of us will answer no, but how about that 1 percent who answered yes. To what degree did you go to for revenge or to get even. As adolescents making the right choices was key to the way we turn out as adults, some of us had lots of enfluences some good some bad some none at all. Science has proven that children under the age of 17 are not always capable of comprending the results of thier actions. I am not saying that these individuals go unpunished but I do thnk that we need to approach Juvenile justic...
    Unfortunatley our justice system is and continues to be BROKEN! In no case should a juvenile under the legal age of 18 be prosecuted as an adult. First you must understand that our system of just is constantly being eroded and mared by polititians who run for office using our justice sytem as there platform to get elected. Having said that lets break it down, first take the coment from the previous poster, Dake, "They made a choice to kill someone" do you really think looking back in your own life on those times when you were so upset with someone you just wanted to hurt them for something they had done to you or caused to happen to you. Obviously we all can remeber those times, but did we do anything to that person, did we physically harm them in some manor? Probably 99 percent of us will answer no, but how about that 1 percent who answered yes. To what degree did you go to for revenge or to get even. As adolescents making the right choices was key to the way we turn out as adults, some of us had lots of enfluences some good some bad some none at all. Science has proven that children under the age of 17 are not always capable of comprending the results of thier actions. I am not saying that these individuals go unpunished but I do thnk that we need to approach Juvenile justice in a whole different manor. We have seen this time and time again over the past decades. Obviously there is more than anger behind the motivation of a young boy to commit such a crime. We need that individual child someplace where he can pay for his crime and yet be help and maybe someday return to society a productive person.
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  • Martin K 2012/05/22 16:27:22
    No, it seems like cruel and unusual punishment
    Martin K
    +2
    The USA is a backward country of which a large part of the population regards revenge, not justice, as a proper means of disposing of people who commit crimes even if they are minors. Shame on you. None of the other western nations share your uneducated views. Even many South American nations got rid of the death penalty many years ago and they are considered backwards by US citizens Pitiful!!!
  • ed Martin K 2012/05/22 16:54:53
    ed
    +1
    You know while I do believe in capital punishment for homicide, I can agree with you in someways, first it is disturbing that we have executed so many inocent individuals because of attorneys who make a chess game out of the justice sytem by using sometimes questionable means to win a case and don't really care if there is a life at stake, but yet there are those individuals out there who deserve to die for what they have done and in some cases will continue to do even behind bars.
  • Work1ders 2012/05/22 16:22:05
    Yes, those who commit homicide should be eligible for the most serious punish...
    Work1ders
    +2
    A 14 year old, knows what they are doing. They have been in the world long enough to know what death is and, in some cases, what it means to inflict it upon others. The child killed someone! My only pity is that two lives were taken. One who killed and one who was killed.

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