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Sheriff Joe won't quit after Bennett accepts Hawaii paper. Should he quit?

Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/05/23 23:13:54
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Obama eligibility: latest release

Yesterday afternoon (Hawaii time), the Hawaii Department of Health released this document, called “Verification of Birth,” to Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett. The Arizona Republic greeted the news with enthusiasm. But as Pastor Carl Gallups said (see video below), the Arizona Republic article said nothing about what kind of information the Hawaii officials gave to Secretary Bennett. Later, The Republic
published their own copy of the “verification of birth” document. That
copy is identical to the linked copy, which comes from Station KVOA-TV
(Channel 4) in Tucson, AZ.


This document says that Barack H. Obama II has a birth
certificate in Hawaii. It repeats some of the information on the White
House birth certificate document.
This includes the ages and birth places of Barack Obama Senior, and
Stanley Ann Dunham Obama. It also includes the date and time of birth,
and the dates of various signatures. Alvin T. Onaka, State Registrar,
signed the new document.


Dr. Onaka did not sign the document with the whimsical
curlicues on the letter “A” of his first name that appear on the White
House document. Alvin T. Onaka has never signed any other document with such whimsy.


The “verification” document gives the same strange name for Obama
Senior’s birthplace as the White House document gives: “Kenya, East
Africa.” At the bottom, the document says this:


Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy
of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with
your request matches the original record in our files.


In other words, Dr. Onaka stands by what the White House document shows.


What people say
The Obama birth certificate: probable casualty in the Obama eligibility battle

Obama's
long-form birth certificate, as released by the White House. A
photocopy of an image in a book, with green safety-paper texture added
after-the-fact. Suppose a teacher had assigned this as homework? Would
that teacher still be teaching?


Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, AZ, vowed


to investigate until I discover the truth.


He also accused the White House and Secretary Bennett of “apply[ing] political pressure” to him.


Jerome S. Corsi, in Hawaii and traveling with lead Cold Case Posse investigator Mike Zullo, broke his silence at noon (EDT) today. Zullo told him that the Cold Case Posse could still find that the White House birth certificate document and a Selective Service registration for Obama could both
be forged. That could put the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office against
the Arizona Department of State. Zullo knows it, and does not care. He
told of meeting with Bennett, and said that Bennett will not even look at the evidence that the Cold Case Posse has.


Evidently Hawaii has had a change of heart. I’m now happy
to return once again to the Hawaii Department in Health to repeat our
request that Hawaii release whatever birth records may yet remain
concealed in the Hawaii Department of Health vaults to public
examination by a court-certified group of forensic examiners.


Members of the Surprise Tea Party are furious with Bennett. They
petitioned Sheriff Arpaio to investigate to begin with. Now they say
that Bennett has “caved to political pressure” from Senator John McCain
(R-AZ) and other high-ranking members of the Arizona Republican Party.
Bennett wants to run for Governor of Arizona in 2014.

Read More: http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2012/05/23...

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  • Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/05/24 00:25:26
    No. The SecState is not your superior and did not even LOOK at the evidence. ...
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +16
    You have an obviously forged document served out of the White House; you've got a Selective Service registration with two digits for a date; you've got records *missing from the archives.* What more could you ask? You've got evidence. If Bennett won't look at the evidence, that's his problem, not yours.

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  • Guru_T_... Temlako... 2012/05/24 13:38:11 (edited)
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +2
    Sorry, but there was no fail. Finding similar information isn't the same as proving that the information in question is factual or accurate.
  • Temlako... Guru_T_... 2012/05/24 13:42:47
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    +1
    It came from two different sources.
  • Guru_T_... Temlako... 2012/05/24 18:10:39
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +1
    Sure it did. Whatever you say. Finding similar information isn't the same as proving that the information in question is factual or accurate and it isn't the same as findint the same information in two places.
  • boneman1 Guru_T_... 2012/05/24 14:24:45
    boneman1
    +1
    The publisher of the document has come out and verified that it was published that way. Now he's trying to say it was a mistake even though Obama didn't try to get it corrected at the time.
  • ProudPr... boneman1 2012/05/24 15:40:13
    ProudProgressive
    +3
    In all likelihood the President never saw it. And the person who wrote the blurb has publicly admitted that she didn't check the facts and never discussed it with the President. But hey, why believe certified and verified official state documents when you've got a 20 year old blurb to go by?
  • boneman1 ProudPr... 2012/05/24 15:53:17
    boneman1
    +1
    Doesn't it seem odd to you a clerk in the publicity department 20 years ago got information saying he was born in Kenya and nothing was said about it being wrong until it became a problem?
  • ProudPr... boneman1 2012/05/24 16:29:47
    ProudProgressive
    +3
    No one noticed and no one cared. The book that the blurb was written for was never written, so no one paid attention.

    Besides, let's be honest here for a second. If there were a dozen certified documents that proved the President was born in Kenya and then they found a blurb from 20 years ago that said he was born in Hawaii, would that convince you that he was born in Hawaii?
  • Guru_T_... boneman1 2012/05/24 18:12:27
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +1
    As PP has already said, Obama probably never saw it and the person who wrote the blurb has publicly admitted that she didn't check the facts and never discussed it with the President.
  • boneman1 Guru_T_... 2012/05/24 21:13:24
    boneman1
    I don't really think this book matters, but my question is still why did she think he was from Kenya?
  • GoatHorns Guru_T_... 2012/05/24 23:47:23
    GoatHorns
    +1
    if it's photoshopped, it's a better job than the one they did on that birth certificate
  • Guru_T_... GoatHorns 2012/05/25 12:25:08
    Guru_T_Firefly
    +1
    LOL! Gotta laugh at birther nonsense.
  • GoatHorns Guru_T_... 2012/05/26 20:40:16
    GoatHorns
    you mean the nonsense where one of the administrations own lawyers admits it's a fake, so it can't be admissible as real proof? or how anyone with any photoshop skills can pick the document apart with ease?


    birth certificate fake photoshop
  • Guru_T_... GoatHorns 2012/05/27 18:47:07
    Guru_T_Firefly
    Get an IQ, birther. Then, get yourself a clue.
  • GoatHorns Guru_T_... 2012/05/28 00:34:24
    GoatHorns
    +1
    you're right. if the government says it, and the media reports it, it must be true. GMO food doesn't hurt you, we invaded Iraq for a good cause, and the Federal Reserve isn't a private corporation that sunk this country into debt.


    liberal sheep
  • Guru_T_... GoatHorns 2012/05/28 01:07:14
  • ProudPr... GoatHorns 2012/05/24 15:37:48
    ProudProgressive
    +3
    Because a clerk in the publicity department didn't do her homework, as she has publicly stated.
  • Sheila ProudPr... 2012/05/24 19:19:18
    Sheila
    +1
    After receiving both a threat and a check would be my bet....lol.....
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/05/24 09:49:28
    Yes. It's over, Joe. Don't fight your own SecState.
    Lady Whitewolf
    +6
    This guy has gotten out of hand....
  • Jeff Smith Lady Wh... 2012/05/24 12:13:58
    Jeff Smith
    +4
    Out of who's hand? Isn't that what makes America, America? Freedom of choice it could be that Joe hates Obama's guts but there are no laws on the books keeping him from pursuing what he feels is the truth. He may or may not be a whack job but until that's proven he can pretty much do whatever he wishes. It's called freedom
  • Bevos Lady Wh... 2012/05/24 12:28:30
    Bevos
    +6
    What guy has gotten out of hand? Joe has done MORE for his County than Obama has done for the Whole Country. Joe has a handle on what the problems are, and is working to straighten them out. Obama doesn't have a clue!!!
  • ProudPr... Bevos 2012/05/24 15:41:34
    ProudProgressive
    +3
    So you think racist oppression of thousands of US Citizens just because they happen to be Hispanic is doing something good for this country? This guy is an ignorant corrupt racist idiot and every day he is out of a jail cell this nation is in danger from his antics.
  • Bevos ProudPr... 2012/05/25 11:06:50
  • Linda Lady Wh... 2012/05/24 13:23:47 (edited)
    Linda
    +2
    He's rediculous
  • Sheila Linda 2012/05/24 19:19:49
    Sheila
    rediculous
    He is???
  • Andrew 2012/05/24 07:41:39
    Undecided
    Andrew
    +4
    Sheriff Joe is a hero. He should decide for himself if and when he should stop investigating!
  • Guru_T_... Andrew 2012/05/24 13:32:50
  • The Bla... Guru_T_... 2012/05/24 13:48:35
    The Black Dagger
    +3
    Ah there it is. I knew I'd find one of you racist Liberals sooner or later on this thread.
  • ProudPr... The Bla... 2012/05/24 15:42:39
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    Um, no, it's Sheriff Joe who's the racist. I love how the right wing thinks that anyone who sees blatant racism and calls it out is a racist.
  • The Bla... ProudPr... 2012/05/25 01:16:09
    The Black Dagger
    +2
    Alright, define and codify his racism. By all means.

    Because bluntly, the only folks who've been calling him a racist are Liberals, who themselves are cleverly disguised racists.
  • Bevos The Bla... 2012/05/25 11:08:25 (edited)
    Bevos
    +2
    They are not even very cleverly disguised. Just that anytime someone disagrees with anything they say, they start screaming racist.
  • Guru_T_... Bevos 2012/05/25 12:38:45
  • Guru_T_... The Bla... 2012/05/25 12:38:03
  • The Bla... Guru_T_... 2012/05/27 03:19:37
    The Black Dagger
    #1-#9: Opinion piece from think progress HEARSAY not proof.

    Here is your DOJ case:

    #1:A de-motivational poster picture that has been circulating around the English and Spanish speaking world at least two years before the DOJ decided that it was to be used as evidence because one or two guys in Arpaio's office were having a lark. The same lark everyone before them had.

    More on this here (please note, this article has links unlike yours, which you didn't link to begin with): http://standwitharizona.com/b...

    #2: Here is the link to this retarded complaint presented by the DOJ: http://www.scribd.com/doc/931... Now, if you are logical enough, of which I doubt, you should be able to logically conclude why each separate complaint is ridiculous.

    #3: Here are the individuals that put the complaint together. A bunch of fresh out of college kids that are trying to make a name for themselves. Again, article provided with links: http://pjmedia.com/tatler/201...

    #4: Simply put, the DOJ is trying to keep themselves from being investigated and brought up on charges so they are using old Joe, to distract you: http://theulstermanreport.com...

    A hit piece provided by think progress (here gleaned from your post: http://lawsonry.com/2012/05/t... ) does not constitute proof of any sort. It is...

    #1-#9: Opinion piece from think progress HEARSAY not proof.

    Here is your DOJ case:

    #1:A de-motivational poster picture that has been circulating around the English and Spanish speaking world at least two years before the DOJ decided that it was to be used as evidence because one or two guys in Arpaio's office were having a lark. The same lark everyone before them had.
    Mexican Navy Seal
    More on this here (please note, this article has links unlike yours, which you didn't link to begin with): http://standwitharizona.com/b...

    #2: Here is the link to this retarded complaint presented by the DOJ: http://www.scribd.com/doc/931... Now, if you are logical enough, of which I doubt, you should be able to logically conclude why each separate complaint is ridiculous.

    #3: Here are the individuals that put the complaint together. A bunch of fresh out of college kids that are trying to make a name for themselves. Again, article provided with links: http://pjmedia.com/tatler/201...

    #4: Simply put, the DOJ is trying to keep themselves from being investigated and brought up on charges so they are using old Joe, to distract you: http://theulstermanreport.com...

    A hit piece provided by think progress (here gleaned from your post: http://lawsonry.com/2012/05/t... ) does not constitute proof of any sort. It is nothing more than conjecture and hearsay.

    You really should take the time to research your own copy pastes. It makes you look foolish when you regurgitate unfounded BS like that.
    (more)
  • Guru_T_... The Bla... 2012/05/27 18:48:10
    Guru_T_Firefly
    So, you're a one-trick pony, heh? I figured as much.
  • The Bla... Guru_T_... 2012/05/30 04:20:37
    The Black Dagger
    Not at all. You can't refute these points so instead you resort to childishness. Typical of someone with no facts.
  • Guru_T_... The Bla... 2012/05/31 11:49:30
    Guru_T_Firefly
    Maybe if you birthers offered some actual facts there wouldn't be a problem, one-trick.
  • The Bla... Guru_T_... 2012/05/31 13:42:26
    The Black Dagger
    +1
    Again, ad hominem and no facts from you.

    Unless you have any facts to present or any refutations to my presented links and statements, then you are a finished individual in this debate.

    You have presented less than nothing.
  • Guru_T_... The Bla... 2012/05/31 15:54:19
    Guru_T_Firefly
    You've presented nothing factual, one-trick.
  • The Bla... Guru_T_... 2012/05/31 16:01:48
    The Black Dagger
    +1
    If you wanted to troll, why didn't you just start calling me names and saying funny little cut and paste quotes or pictures or something.

    If you wanted to have a real debate, then why don't you?

    Don't be mad that I tore up your little cut and paste job and pointed out to everyone reading that you are incapable of formulating an argument on your own.

    Now, are we done here with your tail between your legs? Or, do you want this "one trick" to keep embarrassing you with your own anger?
  • Guru_T_... The Bla... 2012/05/31 16:34:24
    Guru_T_Firefly
    LOL! You didn't tear up diddly squat and if you really want to talk cut-and-paste, you've done more than your share of that, as well. Not to mention the fact that your first very comment under this thread was to insult me by calling a racist. For an obvious troll, you're quite the hypocrite, aren't you, one-trick?

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