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Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/06/13 17:17:20
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The case of Voeltz v. Obama is simple. Mike Voeltz is a
registered Democrat and lives in Florida. He says that the Democratic
Party cheated him of his vote by having on the ballot the name of a
candidate who may not run. Specifically, Voeltz says that Barack Obama
may not run for President because he is not a natural born citizen.


Judge Terry Lewis in Leon County, Florida, scheduled a hearing for Monday, June 18, 2012, at 9:00 a.m. Voeltz asked Larry Klayman, of Judicial Watch
fame, to plead his case. Klayman sent in a brief saying in detail what a
natural born citizen is, and is not. The Constitution (Article II,
Section 1, paragraph 5) says that only a natural born citizen may even run for President. Klayman cited a case (Minor v. Happersett, 1875) that is the only case
that defines a natural born citizen in any detail. That case describes a
natural born citizen as a person born in the country to two citizen parents. That is the only place in the opinion where that phrase “natural born citizen” shows up.


Klayman said further that the Framers used the phrase natural born citizen for a reason:


The framers were not stupid. They understood that a
president with divided loyalties could present a security and other
risks for our nation.


The White House lawyers say that anyone born in-country is a natural born citizen, wherever the parents were born. But while Klayman cited a case to back him up, the White House legal team did not. So Judge Lewis ordered the White House to back up their idea of what a natural born citizen can be. He also ordered them to show original documents to prove that Obama is a natural born citizen.


Sheriff Joe comes to testify
Obama birth certificate misspelling and whimsical signature. A new Obama eligiblity affidavit says that this registrar's stamp was pasted on.

Alvin
T. Onaka, the Hawaii registrar, seems to be whimsical: he turned the
capital "A" of his signature into a "smiley face." Note also that he
misspells "THE" as "TXE" on what should be a rubber stamp. Now Sheriff
Joe Arpaio says that someone pasted this stamp in, and that gives him
probable cause to suspect forgery. Photo: CNAV


Early this morning, WND reported that Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona, swore
to his role in investigating Obama eligibility in his State. The leader
of his Cold Case Posse, former New Jersey detective Mike Zullo, swore to his own role, as did WND reporter Jerome Corsi. Arpaio and Corsi both appeared before their notaries yesterday; Mike Zullo saw a notary the day before.


“Sheriff Joe” says that the Obama long-form birth certificate is not
a copy of a paper document. Instead, says the sheriff, someone built it
on a computer. Worse, someone copied a picture of the “registrar’s
stamp” from somewhere else and pasted it in. (CNAV has already shown that the file is full of mistakes. Among other things, that “registrar’s stamp” spells the word THE as TXE.) That is why Arpaio found “probable cause” that the White House file is a forgery.


Mike Zullo went further. He said that Hawaiian officials have told
different stories over the last five years on whether Barack Obama even has a birth certificate.


Klayman also introduced a copy of Jerome Corsi’s book, Where’s the Real Birth Certificate? as evidence. Corsi needed to swear in writing that his book was accurate.

In other news, Hawaii officials still treat the Obama eligibility question as if it were radioactive. Ask yourself why should they, if there's nothing left to dispute?

And now the question for all of you: is this great? A yawner? Or what?

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  • Dana Louisa ... 2012/06/21 03:22:28
    Dana
    Again, how about coming up with something that is legitimate to bitch about? You can not, so you continue these crazy conspiracy theories.

    Let me guess... your a member of flatearthsociety.org too, right?
  • Dana Louisa ... 2012/06/21 03:30:57
    Dana
    Shown it, repeatedly. What about factual truth do you not understand?
  • unclepat 2012/06/14 21:09:00
    Yawn! We've been over this before.
    unclepat
    +7
    Another racist birther. I'm willing to bet that he doesn't give a damn about the FACT that Mitt Romney's pappy is really a MEXICAN!!!!
  • Israel unclepat 2012/06/17 13:40:06
    Israel
    +1
    Yawn, the race card again.
  • unclepat Israel 2012/06/18 20:21:30
    unclepat
    +2
    Nice attempt at faux reverse psychology. This whole thing has always been about race. Your attempts at denial fool no one here. And you try to hide and justify your racial animosity towards the president with a poor attempt at stating your "love" for Allen West or Herman the idiot Cain. Don't think for one second that people don't know that the moment either of those fake conservatives remotely engage in anything looked upon as "Black" behavior, that you wouldn't turn on them in a heartbeat!
  • Israel unclepat 2012/06/19 13:11:12
    Israel
    Oh boy, the concept of boring just passed you by. Nice try to turn this into a race issue when it is about his policies. Also do try and take your head out of odumba's ass because it is not a very flattering position. As to being a conservative, or anything else, that is your pressumption.
    Alen West will always be the better man. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you deal with it.
  • unclepat Israel 2012/06/19 13:39:36
    unclepat
    +2
    "About his policies"?? Oops, I forgot. That's the other lie your side tells!
  • Israel unclepat 2012/06/20 08:26:23
    Israel
    My side? I am not on any side. Tad presumptuous of you. And I vote do I? You have no idea of what you are talking about.
  • unclepat Israel 2012/06/20 13:26:23
    unclepat
    +1
    Presumptuous?? Not really. If you want to comment about things on this side of the "pond" then be prepared to have rebuttals thrown your way. Apparently YOU have no idea of what you're talking about!
  • Israel unclepat 2012/06/20 18:31:22
    Israel
    You were presumptuous and clearly a nasty piece of work who is mean from the get go to those with a different opinion to yours, not just when someone is mean to you.
  • Stan Israel 2012/06/20 01:59:36
    Stan
    +2
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  • Israel Stan 2012/06/20 08:27:23
    Israel
    Boy, 72 and a real pr.k already.
  • Stan Israel 2012/06/20 01:54:58
    Stan
    +2
    Well Bubba, when the shoe fits you have to wear it!
  • Tedster 2012/06/14 19:23:20
  • Stan Tedster 2012/06/20 02:09:43
    Stan
    Tell you what half-wit, it is your responsibility to prove your own lies, conspiracy theories, and distortions of the truth. So as soon as you can provide some facts and proof of your personal myth it seems to be a mute charge. All you can do is hop back on that Merry-Go-Round you have been on for the last 3 1/2 years and keep going around, and around, and around, and around until you can come up with something better.

    Hows it working for you so far Bubba Monkey?

    The trouble with radicals is that they only read radical literature, and the trouble with conservatives is that they don't read anything.

    The two pillars of 'political correctness are: a) willful ignorance, b) a steadfast refusal to face the truth.

    It is amazing how many conservatives who consider themselves "thinking people" respond automatically to words the way Pavlov's dog was conditioned to respond to certain sounds.
  • my2cents Stan 2012/06/20 18:58:14
    my2cents
    +1
    "The trouble with radicals is that they only read radical literature, and the trouble with conservatives is that they don't read anything."

    I love this! So true!
  • Tedster Stan 2012/06/22 08:01:27
    Tedster
    Hey dipsquat, you said his BC is fake so it's incumbent upon you, not me, to prove your case. When you actually have some get bk to me. In the mean time I proved mine and you had no rebuttal of the facts hence no effort on your part to do so. And did you mean it's a "moot" point rather than "mute" point? This would be a better debate were it a more level playing field. Not sure how you're going to be able to do that however.
  • Stan Tedster 2012/06/25 04:53:11
    Stan
    Wow, somebody is having a hissy-fit. Was it something I said Bubba Monkey? Bubba, I have no problem finding you an argument; I just don't feel responsible for finding you a solution. So tell old Stan why it is incumbent upon me to find you a solution for a made up conspiracy theory that you rustic imbeciles haven't been able to prove for 3 1/2 years?

    I have no desire or responsibility to prove your conspiracy theory that has never been proven or has any legs. I am a satisfied customer that Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a qualified U.S. citizen, so why would I want to run around in circles like you half-wits are doing? If you keep doing the same thing and keep getting the same results, who is it that runs on ideologies that bear only a tangential relationship to reality? Is this a kind of conservative rationalized irrationality? Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha!

    I love bitch-slapping you little half-wits around. So consider yourself gotten back to Neanderthal. What is it that you think you have proven as I didn't see one FACT or TRUTH that demonstrates you have proven anything? You claim I have no rebuttal for the facts? WHAT FACTS? You must live in your own little world, because conservatives live in an impervious bubble that never lets a fact in? Show the facts you think you have pr...



    Wow, somebody is having a hissy-fit. Was it something I said Bubba Monkey? Bubba, I have no problem finding you an argument; I just don't feel responsible for finding you a solution. So tell old Stan why it is incumbent upon me to find you a solution for a made up conspiracy theory that you rustic imbeciles haven't been able to prove for 3 1/2 years?

    I have no desire or responsibility to prove your conspiracy theory that has never been proven or has any legs. I am a satisfied customer that Obama was born in Hawaii, and is a qualified U.S. citizen, so why would I want to run around in circles like you half-wits are doing? If you keep doing the same thing and keep getting the same results, who is it that runs on ideologies that bear only a tangential relationship to reality? Is this a kind of conservative rationalized irrationality? Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha!

    I love bitch-slapping you little half-wits around. So consider yourself gotten back to Neanderthal. What is it that you think you have proven as I didn't see one FACT or TRUTH that demonstrates you have proven anything? You claim I have no rebuttal for the facts? WHAT FACTS? You must live in your own little world, because conservatives live in an impervious bubble that never lets a fact in? Show the facts you think you have proven Bubba?

    You really do have a intelligence deficit. The definition of "MOOT" is "Of no practical importance, irrelevant. Irrelevant or insignificant describe you perfectly! I understand that this would be a better debate if it were on a more level playing field, and I wish I had a lower I.Q., so that I could enjoy your company. I have this big old heart and can forgive you for your mental illness, but having this ability for those in need like yourself, I will hold your hand and help you through the scary parts. Bubba let me be your teacher because education is learning what you didn't even know -- you didn't know.

    Half-wit, you must always think about things, and you must think about things as they are, not as your private opinions and myths think they are. Do you get the distinct feeling that your in way over your head half-wit? Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha! You are the kind of gift that just keeps on giving. Your racism is showing!
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  • Wag 2012/06/14 18:53:42
    Yawn! We've been over this before.
    Wag
    +9
    Oh RWNJs please please stop. You all are looking pretty silly right now.
  • Foxy Warrior Guru 2012/06/14 18:44:54
    Yawn! We've been over this before.
    Foxy Warrior Guru
  • Stan Foxy Wa... 2012/06/14 20:47:35
  • Foxy Wa... Stan 2012/06/15 06:09:15
    Foxy Warrior Guru
    +2
    Somehow I am not the least bit surprised.
  • **StarzAbove** 2012/06/14 18:18:28
    Yawn! We've been over this before.
    **StarzAbove**
  • RastaFan 2012/06/14 17:21:31
    Great! Now who has the evidence?
    RastaFan
    +2
    Holy Smokes ..... I knew It! I knew he wasn't an American! In fact I don't think he's even human.

    I'm pretty sure he was manufactured on the island of assh*les and was fashioned out of torn off bits of the Communist Manifesto and pasted together with Kenyon yak dung.

    In that case he ought to burn just fine ... a Nov 06 barbeque sounds good. All you leftys are invited too! Conservatism is a huge tent.
  • Idiot r... RastaFan 2012/06/14 18:11:23
    Idiot repubs
    +6
    Big enough for the uneducated, the racists and the 1%ers.
  • RastaFan Idiot r... 2012/06/15 15:18:52
    RastaFan
    +1
    Yes, yes .... the choice of Barack Obama has certainly elevated the left wing's stature with regard to intelligence alright. Everyone can see that now.

    :-)
  • my2cents RastaFan 2012/06/14 23:06:27 (edited)
    my2cents
    +4
    And the homophobes, Islamophobes and John Birchers.
  • RastaFan my2cents 2012/06/15 15:19:03 (edited)
    RastaFan
    +2
    Lol ... Let's round up your three and your idiot buddy's three. All together you've raised the top six stale, boring, non-believed, useless Marxist shibboleths most commonly used for the last fifty f*cking years in America. You guys just don't get the new reality. Marxism is being busted wide open, man.

    Together, you and your buddy above you make a wit.
  • my2cents RastaFan 2012/06/15 15:57:13 (edited)
    my2cents
    +1
    That's still a half wit more than you have. LOL!
  • RastaFan my2cents 2012/06/15 17:32:34
    RastaFan
    +2
    Serusssly .... you gonna have a hard time defending that since you still support Baracky Obalmy.

    Have you considered upping your ante to 3cents, maybe? ...... :-)
  • my2cents RastaFan 2012/06/15 18:07:59
    my2cents
    +1
    Since you just threw in your penny, sure!
  • Israel my2cents 2012/06/16 20:13:05
    Israel
    +1
    And half a wit above yours.
  • my2cents Israel 2012/06/20 18:59:09
    my2cents
    Such rage. You should see someone about that.
  • Patsy 2012/06/14 16:38:25
    Great! Now who has the evidence?
    Patsy
    +1
    We can always hope that he wont be able to run, but don't count on it.
  • unclepat Patsy 2012/06/14 21:14:14
    unclepat
    +4
    This coming from a Jan Brewer look-a-like. What is with you "older" racists in Arizona?
  • RastaFan unclepat 2012/06/15 17:35:26
    RastaFan
    +2
    Oh Man .... again wit the racist thing. You need an enema!

    riddler enema
  • Patsy unclepat 2012/06/26 00:43:45
    Patsy
    +1
    We're against Marxism!!
  • ProudProgressive 2012/06/14 16:33:48
    Yawn! We've been over this before.
    ProudProgressive
    +14
    Give it up Skeletor. Sheriff Joe is a corrupt racist bigot who isn't competent to testify as to what color the sky is, much less anything else. Klayman is once again misrepresenting the holdings in the Happersett case and ignoring completely that the Supreme Court settled the issue once and for all in the Wong Kim Ark case. This is getting to be such an asinine waste of time that I truly think they ought to add a diagnosis to the DSM that makes birtherism grounds for incarceration in a mental institution.

    beating a dead horse
  • Glfer65 2012/06/14 15:50:27
    Yawn! We've been over this before.
    Glfer65
    +12
    Once more we have seen the idiocy of Apario on the news again. The following from the constitution clarifies who can run for president.

    Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

    Anyone born inside the United States *
    Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
    Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
    Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
    Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
    A final, historical condition:...




    Once more we have seen the idiocy of Apario on the news again. The following from the constitution clarifies who can run for president.

    Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

    Anyone born inside the United States *
    Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
    Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
    Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
    Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
    A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
    * There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

    Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

    No where does it specifically state that each rule both parents have to be US citizens to qualify. Please read this and understand Obama is a US citizen.
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  • BritPunk 2012/06/14 15:24:10
    Yawn! We've been over this before.
    BritPunk
    +11
    If you want to get rid of Obama, put up a challenger with better policies and a chance of winning an election. But this birther bs just ain't getting anyone anywhere.

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