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Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆ 2012/06/13 17:17:20
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The case of Voeltz v. Obama is simple. Mike Voeltz is a
registered Democrat and lives in Florida. He says that the Democratic
Party cheated him of his vote by having on the ballot the name of a
candidate who may not run. Specifically, Voeltz says that Barack Obama
may not run for President because he is not a natural born citizen.


Judge Terry Lewis in Leon County, Florida, scheduled a hearing for Monday, June 18, 2012, at 9:00 a.m. Voeltz asked Larry Klayman, of Judicial Watch
fame, to plead his case. Klayman sent in a brief saying in detail what a
natural born citizen is, and is not. The Constitution (Article II,
Section 1, paragraph 5) says that only a natural born citizen may even run for President. Klayman cited a case (Minor v. Happersett, 1875) that is the only case
that defines a natural born citizen in any detail. That case describes a
natural born citizen as a person born in the country to two citizen parents. That is the only place in the opinion where that phrase “natural born citizen” shows up.


Klayman said further that the Framers used the phrase natural born citizen for a reason:


The framers were not stupid. They understood that a
president with divided loyalties could present a security and other
risks for our nation.


The White House lawyers say that anyone born in-country is a natural born citizen, wherever the parents were born. But while Klayman cited a case to back him up, the White House legal team did not. So Judge Lewis ordered the White House to back up their idea of what a natural born citizen can be. He also ordered them to show original documents to prove that Obama is a natural born citizen.


Sheriff Joe comes to testify
Obama birth certificate misspelling and whimsical signature. A new Obama eligiblity affidavit says that this registrar's stamp was pasted on.

Alvin
T. Onaka, the Hawaii registrar, seems to be whimsical: he turned the
capital "A" of his signature into a "smiley face." Note also that he
misspells "THE" as "TXE" on what should be a rubber stamp. Now Sheriff
Joe Arpaio says that someone pasted this stamp in, and that gives him
probable cause to suspect forgery. Photo: CNAV


Early this morning, WND reported that Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Arizona, swore
to his role in investigating Obama eligibility in his State. The leader
of his Cold Case Posse, former New Jersey detective Mike Zullo, swore to his own role, as did WND reporter Jerome Corsi. Arpaio and Corsi both appeared before their notaries yesterday; Mike Zullo saw a notary the day before.


“Sheriff Joe” says that the Obama long-form birth certificate is not
a copy of a paper document. Instead, says the sheriff, someone built it
on a computer. Worse, someone copied a picture of the “registrar’s
stamp” from somewhere else and pasted it in. (CNAV has already shown that the file is full of mistakes. Among other things, that “registrar’s stamp” spells the word THE as TXE.) That is why Arpaio found “probable cause” that the White House file is a forgery.


Mike Zullo went further. He said that Hawaiian officials have told
different stories over the last five years on whether Barack Obama even has a birth certificate.


Klayman also introduced a copy of Jerome Corsi’s book, Where’s the Real Birth Certificate? as evidence. Corsi needed to swear in writing that his book was accurate.

In other news, Hawaii officials still treat the Obama eligibility question as if it were radioactive. Ask yourself why should they, if there's nothing left to dispute?

And now the question for all of you: is this great? A yawner? Or what?

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  • Dion Pr... ReconMa... 2012/06/14 01:31:24
    Dion Prince
    +3
    I've seen it. It IS an official document, signed by the registrar on HI letterhead just like his long form. just like his short form. that is why the Sec of state accepted it.
    this is you birthers problem
    first you say you just want tosee the BC. IT is provided in 2008 the short form and only legal Birth Document issued by HI as of 2001 and accepted by EVERY state as ID
    then you say its fake you want the long form. the director of health ordered by the Former Republican Governor looks at the original and states that it is there in the vault and he was born in HI.
    so he provides the long form that was demanded. birthers cried for 3 years that they only wanted to see it and if it was provided, they would drop it. (oddly since the long form is no longer issued and is no longer a legal document)
    then birthers claim that its fake. even though the new Dir of Health verified in writing that she saw it and witness the copying of it.
    now the Rep Sec of state in AR asks for verification from the HI registrar. He gets it. He accepts it as true.
    you fukers do not actually want verification. you had it on three different times on three seperat documents. you have had 2 DIrectors of health from the state acknowledge it as well as the registrar. 2 governors and a sec of state.
    and about 25 court ...


    I've seen it. It IS an official document, signed by the registrar on HI letterhead just like his long form. just like his short form. that is why the Sec of state accepted it.
    this is you birthers problem
    first you say you just want tosee the BC. IT is provided in 2008 the short form and only legal Birth Document issued by HI as of 2001 and accepted by EVERY state as ID
    then you say its fake you want the long form. the director of health ordered by the Former Republican Governor looks at the original and states that it is there in the vault and he was born in HI.
    so he provides the long form that was demanded. birthers cried for 3 years that they only wanted to see it and if it was provided, they would drop it. (oddly since the long form is no longer issued and is no longer a legal document)
    then birthers claim that its fake. even though the new Dir of Health verified in writing that she saw it and witness the copying of it.
    now the Rep Sec of state in AR asks for verification from the HI registrar. He gets it. He accepts it as true.
    you fukers do not actually want verification. you had it on three different times on three seperat documents. you have had 2 DIrectors of health from the state acknowledge it as well as the registrar. 2 governors and a sec of state.
    and about 25 court suits
    you do not want verification.
    you all want to hold on to the misery of a long dead and provide falicy which has no fact to base it on
    HE was born in HI. Period, Paragraph.
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  • ReconMa... Dion Pr... 2012/06/14 01:33:58
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +1
    You Idiots that Believe this Crap are really Out of this World..
    This Doc Does NOT Prove a thing..It Does Not Verify his Date of Birth...Period...
    A Legal Doc would State His Date of Birth as THAT was The Nature of The request..
    How DUMB....
  • Dion Pr... ReconMa... 2012/06/14 01:44:38
  • ReconMa... Dion Pr... 2012/06/14 03:33:12
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    ...When One Asks To Verify Date of Birth, Which is what He Did Ask For...
    The Doc Must State That Date of Birth Being Verified...
    I am Done With This....Too Stupid to Comprehend what was Asked...
  • Dion Pr... ReconMa... 2012/06/14 11:53:08
    Dion Prince
    +2
    no he didnt he asked if the copy of the document he sent (which was the long for that was printed from the internet) was real. and he got that answer that YES it is legit
  • Dion Pr... ReconMa... 2012/06/14 12:27:11
    Dion Prince
    +2
    '“We never requested a birth certificate. What we requested was a verification from Hawaii that the information on the president’s birth certificate was accurate,” Bennett’s spokesman Matthew Roberts told Reuters.'
    in other words... your post was a lie
  • TaxCode... Dion Pr... 2012/06/15 00:09:12
    TaxCodeIsLaw
    +1
    His post isn't a lie per se. I don't honestly believe he has the intelligence to realize the stupidity he is spouting is untrue.
  • Dion Pr... TaxCode... 2012/06/15 11:48:42
    Dion Prince
    +1
    that or he like other birthers only look for information to prove their claim and ignore all evidence that does not.
  • TaxCode... Dion Pr... 2012/06/15 14:16:55
    TaxCodeIsLaw
    +1
    Correct and I think that speaks to his lacking intelligence.
  • ReconMa... Dion Pr... 2012/06/16 16:29:54 (edited)
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    Verification, Means to Verify .....This Form Sent back to the AZ Sec Of State, Only Shows Time, Not Date..That is NOT Verification...It asked to Verify Birth RECORD...Record meand Date Of Birth...
    Gawd..do we have to teach all of you haw to read...
    MY post IS NOT A LIE...Learn To Read....
  • Dion Pr... ReconMa... 2012/06/16 21:55:59
    Dion Prince
    exactly correct. Alvin Onaka sent the sec of state EXACTLY what he asked for.

    quote from Ken Bennett AZ sec of state,
    "I'm happy that we got what we asked for and that's what I was expecting all along,"

    "We have received information from Secretary Bennett that satisfied our requirement and has therefore provided his office with a verification of birth for President Obama,"

    "March 30, 2012

    Hawaii Department of Health
    Office of Health Status Monitoring
    Vital Records Issuance Section
    P.O. Box 3378
    Honolulu, HI 96801

    Ladies and gentlemen:

    Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

    Department of Health File #151 61 10641
    Time of birth: 7:24 p.m.
    Name of hospital: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital
    Age of father: 25
    Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa
    Age of mother: 18
    Birthplace of mother: Wichita, Kansas
    Date of signature of parent: 8-7-1961
    Date of signature of attendant: 8-8-1961
    Date accepted by local registrar: August-8 1961

    Additionally, please verify that the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama is a true and accurate representation of the original reco...







    exactly correct. Alvin Onaka sent the sec of state EXACTLY what he asked for.

    quote from Ken Bennett AZ sec of state,
    "I'm happy that we got what we asked for and that's what I was expecting all along,"

    "We have received information from Secretary Bennett that satisfied our requirement and has therefore provided his office with a verification of birth for President Obama,"

    "March 30, 2012

    Hawaii Department of Health
    Office of Health Status Monitoring
    Vital Records Issuance Section
    P.O. Box 3378
    Honolulu, HI 96801

    Ladies and gentlemen:

    Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

    Department of Health File #151 61 10641
    Time of birth: 7:24 p.m.
    Name of hospital: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital
    Age of father: 25
    Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa
    Age of mother: 18
    Birthplace of mother: Wichita, Kansas
    Date of signature of parent: 8-7-1961
    Date of signature of attendant: 8-8-1961
    Date accepted by local registrar: August-8 1961

    Additionally, please verify that the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama is a true and accurate representation of the original record in your files.

    Thank you for your assistance in this matter.

    Sincerely,

    Ken Bennett"

    NOW WHERE EXACTLY DO YOU SEE THE REQUEST FOR A BIRTHDATE?
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  • ReconMa... Dion Pr... 2012/06/17 04:09:41
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    Too Dumb To Understand VERIFICATION OF RECORD OF BIRTH.......NOT Hour of Birth....

    DONE....
  • Dion Pr... ReconMa... 2012/06/15 21:45:15
    Dion Prince
    Hey Recon Marine. I just proved you wrong with a quote. where is that Marine corp sense of honor to atleast admit you were wrong?
    well that is what was taught in the army, maybe you marines have a different ethos not based on honor and integrity...
  • ReconMa... Dion Pr... 2012/06/16 16:36:33 (edited)
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    Once Again Here is what was asked for in the request..
    "''Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II""

    VERIFICATION IN LIEU OF CERTIFIED COPY........
    Here is the key point.....FOR RECORD OF BIRTH......RECORD OF BIRTH....
    This WAS NOT Provided....NO RECORD OF BIRTH is shown on the Verification........PERIOD...... Time Of Birth, which is NOT a Record...

    MARINES RULE OVER ARMY ANY DAY....Why we always go in first and make it safe for you ARMY Dudes....lol~!!!!
  • TaxCode... ReconMa... 2012/06/14 02:16:10
    TaxCodeIsLaw
    +2
    Perhaps if the idiot requesting the information had asked for the DOB he would have received it. He got what he asked for. No more, no less:

    Hawaii Department of Health
    Office of Health Status Monitoring
    Vital Records Issuance Section
    P.O. Box 3378
    Honolulu, HI 96801

    Ladies and gentlemen:

    Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:

    Department of Health File #151 61 10641
    Time of birth: 7:24 p.m.
    Name of hospital: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital
    Age of father: 25
    Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa
    Age of mother: 18
    Birthplace of mother: Wichita, Kansas
    Date of signature of parent: 8-7-1961
    Date of signature of attendant: 8-8-1961
    Date accepted by local registrar: August-8 1961

    Additionally, please verify that the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama is a true and accurate representation of the original record in your files.

    Thank you for your assistance in this matter.

    Sincerely,

    Ken Bennett
    Arizona Secretary of State
  • ReconMa... TaxCode... 2012/06/14 03:34:54
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    Verification Of Birth Record....Means Date of Birth...THAT IS the Birth Record...
  • Dion Pr... ReconMa... 2012/06/16 22:01:37
    Dion Prince
    again, both tax code and I showed you the email.
    Sec of State Bennett received the information he asked for.
    he asked for 10 specific pieces of information, and he received all ten pieces

    then there is this record from the resent Mississippi court
    sent by the HI registrar Alvin Onaka

    "The information contained in the ”Certificate of Live Birth” published at http://www.whitehouse.gov/blo... birth-certificate and reviewed by me on the date of this verification, a copy of which is attached with your request, matches the information contained in the original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, is on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health.""
  • Idiot r... Dion Pr... 2012/06/14 00:42:10
    Idiot repubs
    +1
    Two dozen? It's over 90 now.
  • Dion Pr... Idiot r... 2012/06/14 01:32:22
    Dion Prince
    +2
    well there is about 25 or so that I know of personally, but either way, it ends the same every time. birthers lose
  • ReconMa... Idiot r... 2012/06/14 01:35:35
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    See he had to ask for reinforcements..
    Give it up...
    DONE With You LIB IDIOTS..
    Prepare for an Upset in NOV and your Leader Moving Back to his Native Kenya...LOL~!!
  • Idiot r... ReconMa... 2012/06/14 03:05:01
    Idiot repubs
    +2
    Ahh the racist is strong in this one. Kenya?? LOL!!!
  • ReconMa... Idiot r... 2012/06/14 03:35:46
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    Racist because I said Kenya...WOW...Another Moron...
  • Dion Pr... Idiot r... 2012/06/14 14:11:33
    Dion Prince
    +2
    "Ahh the racist is strong in this one."
    that got a chuckle out of me.
  • Idiot r... Dion Pr... 2012/06/14 16:29:54
    Idiot repubs
    Thanks!
  • Contarded Chickenhawk Con S... 2012/06/13 18:38:40
    Yawn! We've been over this before.
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    +7
    Man, do some of you need group therapy?

    LMAO!
  • MsTlynne Contard... 2012/06/13 18:48:00
    MsTlynne
    +7
    Surely they can get a discount for a group that large.
  • Contard... MsTlynne 2012/06/13 18:49:47
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    +7
    Heck... I'm willing to start up a web session for them....

    What should we call it? Birther Remorse?

    LOL
  • Contard... Contard... 2012/06/13 19:19:11
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    +6
    Hey MsTlynne... looks like we picked up a birther troll today... LOL
  • MsTlynne Contard... 2012/06/13 19:55:31
    MsTlynne
    +4
    Great; now I can't stop laughing! Have a great day!
  • Walt 2012/06/13 18:30:34
    Great! Now who has the evidence?
    Walt
    +7
    Except for a very few, everyone concerned about this issue, even democrats, know that Barack 0bama is not a natural born citizen. If this were not the case, there would be no opposition to having the real evidence presented in an unbiased court that is not apt to jump to conclusions based on non-evidence.
  • Dion Pr... Walt 2012/06/13 19:28:59
    Dion Prince
    +1
    but non evidence is what the birthers have been basing their conspiracies on for 4 years...
  • Walt Dion Pr... 2012/06/13 19:34:46
    Walt
    +2
    Quite the contrary, case law is not "non-evidence" - neither is a forged document, a social security number registered in Connecticut, or any of the other evidence.
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/13 18:23:49
    Great! Now who has the evidence?
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +6
    If we had any non-liberal judges obaaaaama would be in prison right now. There is plenty of evidence already.

    I say, 'book 'em Dano'. non-liberal judges obaaaaama prison plenty evidence book em dano book  em Dano
  • Thisism... Torchma... 2012/06/13 19:18:51
    Thisismyname
    +3
    >If we had any non-liberal judges

    So all 9 of the Supremes are? Instead of having someone "book him," why don't you read one? Or does knowledge burn your eyes?

    >I say, 'book 'em Dano'.

    Even with two Jpegs, you still manage to misspell it.
  • FeedFwd 2012/06/13 18:23:25
    Yawn! We've been over this before.
    FeedFwd
    +1
    It isn't that this isn't important or relevant. The problem is that the election will be here before proceedings are likely to come to pass that would remove him form office. I have no problem if the evidence determines he is ineligible to run in 2012. And if he were to win the 2012 election, then it makes sense. so I wouldn't discourage people from pursuing this. I just believe he will lose in 2012 and nothing this issue generates will be likely to remove him any sooner. He will be gone in little more than 6 months and a lame duck a bit over 4.
  • ALofRI 2012/06/13 18:17:59
    Yawn! We've been over this before.
    ALofRI
    +6
    Didn't float then.....doesn't float now.
  • Don Leuty 2012/06/13 18:06:51
    Yawn! We've been over this before.
    Don Leuty
    +1
    There is always hope.
  • Willie 2012/06/13 18:03:57
    Yawn! We've been over this before.
    Willie
    +8
    Good luck with all this. Sheriff Joe lost this battle in Arizona already.
  • doofiegirl POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/13 18:01:57
    Great! Now who has the evidence?
    doofiegirl  POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +11
    Sheriff Joe will lay out the facts!Will Odimwit's people do the same---------or will they even show?
  • ☆ Queen... doofieg... 2012/06/13 18:51:18
    ☆ QueenAline
    +4
    my bet is that they will not show....they are above the law (so they think)

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