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Sharia Law comes to Dearborn, Michigan

Annette 2012/01/28 13:50:20


Islamic
Law Comes to Dearborn


by Pamela Geller






Dearborn, Michigan has
become a Sharia enclave, much like those populating many European countries.
The city of Dearborn, Michigan denied a permit Wednesday for Qur’an-burning
Pastor Terry Jones’ planned protest outside the Islamic Center of America on
Good Friday.

Islamic supremacists were
handed a victory for their violent intimidation and threats. City spokeswoman
Mary Laundroche said that Jones’ permit had been denied for “public safety
reasons.” In other words, they’re afraid Muslims will riot. And so the rights
of free Americans have to be curtailed.



Terry Jones burned a
Qur’an. So what? What happened to the freedom of assembly, the freedom of
speech, and the freedom of expression? Terry Jones is prohibited from rallying
in Michigan for fear of Islamic violence. Is that how far down the Sharia
rabbit hole we have gone? Why is it that any time American law comes into
conflict with Islamic law, it is American law that has to give way?



How dare they prohibit this
march? Nazis marched in Skokie. Americans better stand up to this enforced
Sharia. The idea that Muslims in America would get violent because of Jones
speaks volumes about Muslims in America, does it not? Why don’t we see
Muslims taking to the streets every time there is an honor killing, or a church
bombing, or an act of jihad, jihad piracy, forced marriage, or child slavery?
Where are they?



Dearborn
is trying to charge Jones for the extra police protection that his rally will
require. But he is not the one responsible for that; the Muslims who might get
violent are. If Jones had burned a Bible, no one would be threatening
violence against him. Dearborn should charge the Muslims for the extra police,
not Jones.



Once again Dearborn shows
itself to be a pro-Sharia city that oppresses Christians. Who can forget the
Christians who were arrested for passing out leaflets at a Muslim festival last
July? Or the lawsuit that challenges the official cooperation by the city of
Dearborn, Michigan with Islamic interests, and makes a stunning allegation:
that under the recognized “Shariah” law in the city, there have been “honor
killing” murders that have been “covered up”?



Wednesday’s court filing
against Constitutional freedoms “equates the actions of zealots in Afghanistan
with Muslim Americans in Dearborn.” I pulled that quote from Muslim
Brotherhood-tied CAIR. Indeed.



As for Jones, I don’t like
book burning, but so what? I have repeatedly stated my position on this. Jones
does a grave disservice to the cause of spreading awareness about Islamic teachings
and the threat that Sharia poses to our way of life. The burning of books is
wrong in principle: the antidote to bad speech is not censorship or
book-burning, but more speech. Open discussion. Give-and-take. And the truth
will out. There is no justification for burning books.



Nonetheless, if Americans
are free and not under Sharia, then Jones can burn any book he wants, and his
church and people of like mind can hold any demonstration they want. His
freedom and rights should be protected. Islamic supremacists should not be
allowed a victory for their violent intimidation — if these people want to
stage a protest, they’re free to do so.



This is another challenge
to the U.S. to stand up for free speech and free expression. Popular speech
needs no protection. As such all Americans should support the right of the
church to have done this, even if they dislike what they’re doing.



Many people have said that
Jones’s actions will endanger American troops in Afghanistan. This warning is
just another terror tactic. It is based on the assumption that the Taliban and
others in Afghanistan are fighting us because we are doing things they don’t
like, and so if we stop doing those things, they will stop fighting us. But
actually they are fighting us because of imperatives within the Islamic faith.
They will never like us unless we convert to Islam or submit to Islamic rule.
If we stop doing things they dislike, where will we draw the line? How far will
Sharia advance in the U.S., with Americans afraid to stop its advance for fear
of offending Muslims and stirring them up to violence? The Muslim Students
Association is already pushing for halal cafeterias, segregated dorms,
segregated gym facilities on campus. This is incompatible with American
freedom. We have to draw the line.



I will tell you this:
Islamic law (Sharia) cannot, must not, and will not have its way over our free
speech. That is worth fighting for, worth dying for.



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  • Edna R. 2012/07/01 12:57:42 (edited)
    Edna R.
    +2
    My friends, pass this along! The quran muslims hold in their hands today is NOT the ;original" as they will boast it is! After Muhammad died, the new caliph, Uthman, collected all qurans from Iraq to Syria then BURNED THEM! The first quran burning was held by muslims themselves! Then Uthman had to wait until HASFAH died to burn her copy! Uthman then burned the copies of the other two who happened to be Muhammads most personal reciters: Abdullah Ibn Masud & Ubay Ibn Ka'b. The majority of reciters were killed in the battle of YAMAMA!

    Differences in quran causes one group to call the other ‘heretics’!

    During the reign of `Uthman, teachers were teaching this or that reading to their students. When the students met and disagreed about the reading, they reported the differences to their teachings. They would defend their readings, condemning the others as heretical.'[Abu Bakr `Abdullah b. abi Da'ud, "K. al Masahif]
  • Annette Edna R. 2012/07/06 04:20:35
    Annette
    That is some very interesting knowledge. Do you have a source for more info on it?
  • Edna R. Annette 2012/07/09 10:23:36
    Edna R.
    Are muslims technically reading a corrupted quran?
    Muslims claim, that many different translations of the English Bible will render a single text w/many different words & phrases.
    This, allegedly, is proof Bible is corrupted.
    But the Koran reads exactly the same way everywhere in the world in Arabic.
    My question is: Since many English translations of the Koran also render a single text w/many different words, does that proof the Koran is corrupted?
    Pt 1 of 4

    How can Muslims claim there are no textual variations in the Koran, when the Tashkent MSS differs from the modern Egyptian Qur'an in 5 passages: 2:284, 2:283, 3:37, 3:109 and 5:119.
    The Tashkent MSS uses the word 'Allah' while the modern Egyptian Qur'an, uses the word 'huwa' (the pronoun 'he').
    My question is: Which word do you believe are in the "preserved master tablet" and "mother of all books" in heaven?
    Pt 2 of 4

    The British Museum in London has an ancient copy of the Koran written in the Ma'il style of script, but practicing Muslim scholar Martin Lings, who is the former curator for the manuscripts of the British Museum, dates this manuscript at 790 AD. My question is: Apart from just making the claim, what evidence do you supply that this MSS were written any earlier?
    Pt 3 of 4


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    Are muslims technically reading a corrupted quran?
    Muslims claim, that many different translations of the English Bible will render a single text w/many different words & phrases.
    This, allegedly, is proof Bible is corrupted.
    But the Koran reads exactly the same way everywhere in the world in Arabic.
    My question is: Since many English translations of the Koran also render a single text w/many different words, does that proof the Koran is corrupted?
    Pt 1 of 4

    How can Muslims claim there are no textual variations in the Koran, when the Tashkent MSS differs from the modern Egyptian Qur'an in 5 passages: 2:284, 2:283, 3:37, 3:109 and 5:119.
    The Tashkent MSS uses the word 'Allah' while the modern Egyptian Qur'an, uses the word 'huwa' (the pronoun 'he').
    My question is: Which word do you believe are in the "preserved master tablet" and "mother of all books" in heaven?
    Pt 2 of 4

    The British Museum in London has an ancient copy of the Koran written in the Ma'il style of script, but practicing Muslim scholar Martin Lings, who is the former curator for the manuscripts of the British Museum, dates this manuscript at 790 AD. My question is: Apart from just making the claim, what evidence do you supply that this MSS were written any earlier?
    Pt 3 of 4


    Both the Samarqand MSS is in Tashkent, and the MSS housed in the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul are written in the script style called "Kufic". And not the earlier style known as Ma'il or Mashq. This fact is the reason Muslim scholars date these manuscripts no earlier than 200 years after Muhammad died. My question is: leaving aside blind faith and wishful thinking, what evidence do you supply that these MSS were written any earlier?
    Pt 4 of 4
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    The quran is NOT ONE CODEX; but many! This means, that whoever says the quran has NOT changed in 1,400 yrs is a liar or utterly ignorant!
    Problem is that many of ur suras went missing. Much of what the quran was written on like leaves, skins, leaves, papyrus, clothing … had been destroyed. Many memorizers were KILLED in the battle of Yamama! Muhammads most personal reciters quran were rejected by Uthman! THESE WERE THE ORIGINAL QURANS! & they were destroyed.

    Differences in quran causes one group to call the other ‘heretics’!
    During the reign of `Uthman, teachers were teaching this or that reading to their students. When the students met and disagreed about the reading, they reported the differences to their teachings. They would defend their readings, condemning the others as heretical.'[Abu Bakr `Abdullah b. abi Da'ud, "K. al Masahif]


    Mas’ud was asked to burn his personal version of the Qur’an.
    "How can you order me to recite the reading of Zaid, when I recited from the very mouth of the Prophet some seventy Surahs?" "Am I," asks Abdullah, "to abandon what I acquired from the very lips of the Prophet?" (Masahif" by Ibn abi Dawood, 824-897 AD, pp. 12, 14).


    Muslim source materials reveal some of these select people who are known to have created their unique version of the Qur'an. (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 150).
    I heard the Prophet saying, "Learn the recitation of Qur'an from four persons: (1)Abdullah Ibn Mas'ud, (2)Salim (who was killed in the 633 CE battle), the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa, (3)Ubayy B. Ka'ab and (4)Muadh bin Jabal."


    The unique Qur’an created by Mas’ud was completed years after the most important original manuscript (634 CE) that Hafsah kept until she died in 667 CE.
    In addition, the Qur'an version created by Mas'ud did not have chapters 1, 113, and 114 that are in the "official" Qur'an of today. Is the Qur’an truly pure as believed by Muslims today?


    Another unique Qur’an was created by Ubayy B. Ka'ab, a close companion of Muhammad & served as a secretary to Muhammad.
    Ubayy could recite much of the Qur’an, which he had learned from Muhammad.
    Scholars have found that Ubayy's version differed from the "official" Qur'an with two additional chapters (entitled: Surat Al-Khal and Surat Al-Afd).
    Since Ubayy was taught the Qur'an by the prophet Muhammad, why doesn't the "official" Qur'an contain the two additional chapters?


    Due to Uthman’s decision to create an "official" version of the Qur'an, Ubayy's version of the Qur’an was destroyed.

    It is important to ask, "Is the Qur'an pure?"

    Now consider the original Qur’an called the Hafsah Codex.
    It was destroyed by Muslims leaders immediately after Hafsah died.
    It is most important to ask, "Why did Hafsah not wish to have this most important original manuscript of the Qur'an to be burnt?"
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    QURANS THREE CODEXES
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    There are three codexes to the original quran.
    1) Hasfah Codex
    2) Abdullah Ibn Masud Codex
    3) Ubay Ibn Ka'b Codex
    So it was Caliph Uthman who appointed Zaid Ibn Thabit to reconstruct the Quran known as Zaid Codex. The Quran today is based upon Zaid Codex and not other codices already in existence which were burnt. Islam, not non-muslims, was the first to have a quran book burning!
    Pt 1 of 3

    Many of ur Qurra (memorizers) were killed in battle of Yamama.
    There was no divine command from allah to write a book, some reciters like Abdullah Ibn Mas'ud & Ubay Ibn Ka'b made their own quran collection.
    Ibn Masud's quran was used at Kufa, Iraq & Ubays's quran in Syria.
    These different collections of quran contained many variant readings.
    More than 1,700 R attributed to Ibn Masud alone. ("Materials for the history of the text Of the Quran" by A. Jeffry, 1937)
    Pt 2 of 3

    Muhammad regarded Ibn Mas'ud & Ibn Ka'b as good & personal reciters, not Zaid ibn Thabit
    When Uthman became the Caliph, he appointed Zaid Ibn Thabit to reconstruct the quran manuscripts known as the Zaid Codex; ONLY AFTER MUH’D WAS DEAD!
    All others were burnt. Politics within Islam!
    So ... which one is the word of allah & how much of it was destroyed?
    Pt 3 of 3
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  • Annette Edna R. 2012/07/10 05:39:12
    Annette
    Excellent - thank you. I have no problem with a text in the Bible if it says the same thing a different way - the meaning is not lost - it is when the actual meaning is misconstrued to make it mean something it does not.
    With the Koran, nothing means the same thing and there are so many contradictions taht the whole book is therefore useless. People who study the Bible understand that what a novice sees as a contradiction is not really one at all; but if they make the choice to stay in the dark on what it really means because by changing it it allows the reader to prove a point (rightly or wrongly), then the misinterpretation is in the reader's heart, not in the Scripture.
    Quite the contrary is true of the Koran. Thank you again.
  • Edna R. Annette 2012/07/15 15:59:42
    Edna R.
    +1
    I can also prove:
    1) We do NOT share Gods!
    Allah has NO image like ours has. Genesis 1:26-27
    Allah has NO true names like ours has. YHWH-Elohim (Gen 1:1) Jehovah (mark 12:29 & Deut 6:4) I AM (Ex 3:14-15) Yahushua = Jesus yet God the father share the same names as shown in John 17:11 & Jesus does in fact say: "I & THE FATHER ARE ONE" John 10:30
    Allah calls us all "slaves". Our God does NOT!
    Allah NEVER calls us 'sons' or 'children'. Our God absolutely DOES!

    2) We do NOT share prophets!
    Islam cant prove Muhammad is a prophet biblically, yet are ardently undeterred in their opinion he is.
    Muhammad doesnt qualify for the bibles criteria for prophethood from
    Gen 21:12 “God said … for in Isaac shall thy (Abrahams) seed be called”
    Nor does Muhammad qualify as a prophet from the quran but qualifies as its false prophet! Paul prophesy agrees! See Gal 1:8-9
    Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 5 Book #59 Hadith #713 says: (“I feel as if my aorta is being cut”) Proves Muhammads a false prophet b/c of Q 69:43-46 which says: (“if the Messenger were to attribute any false words to Us, We would seize him and cut his aorta“)

    3) the entire quran is [FABRICATED]
    b/c no muslim can prove Jesus spoke as a baby or any prophet uttered the words: allah & muslim
    Who can prove Abraham & a [CAST OUT] Ishmael went to mecca!
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    I can also prove:
    1) We do NOT share Gods!
    Allah has NO image like ours has. Genesis 1:26-27
    Allah has NO true names like ours has. YHWH-Elohim (Gen 1:1) Jehovah (mark 12:29 & Deut 6:4) I AM (Ex 3:14-15) Yahushua = Jesus yet God the father share the same names as shown in John 17:11 & Jesus does in fact say: "I & THE FATHER ARE ONE" John 10:30
    Allah calls us all "slaves". Our God does NOT!
    Allah NEVER calls us 'sons' or 'children'. Our God absolutely DOES!

    2) We do NOT share prophets!
    Islam cant prove Muhammad is a prophet biblically, yet are ardently undeterred in their opinion he is.
    Muhammad doesnt qualify for the bibles criteria for prophethood from
    Gen 21:12 “God said … for in Isaac shall thy (Abrahams) seed be called”
    Nor does Muhammad qualify as a prophet from the quran but qualifies as its false prophet! Paul prophesy agrees! See Gal 1:8-9
    Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 5 Book #59 Hadith #713 says: (“I feel as if my aorta is being cut”) Proves Muhammads a false prophet b/c of Q 69:43-46 which says: (“if the Messenger were to attribute any false words to Us, We would seize him and cut his aorta“)

    3) the entire quran is [FABRICATED]
    b/c no muslim can prove Jesus spoke as a baby or any prophet uttered the words: allah & muslim
    Who can prove Abraham & a [CAST OUT] Ishmael went to mecca!
    Why did the quran Rewrite the bible by stating it was Ishmael that was to be sacrificed & not Isaac as Genesis 22;2 confirms?
    Quran, without proof, has made Lot, Adam, Ishmael, Muhammad & 124,000 people prophets!

    We worship YHWH-Elohim(Gen 1:1), Jehovah(Mark 12:29, Ex 6:3 & Deut 6:4), I AM(Ex 3:14-15), Y’shua(Isaiah 62:11), etc. … not a title! Word “god” is a title NOT a name! allah= god

    4) We do NOT share Jesus!
    Eesa has said things Jesus NEVER said & Jesus has done things Eesa has never done!
    Means Islam is CURSED via Rev 22:18-19 & Deut 4:2 for ADDING words to Jesus & our prophets none ever said!
    Eesa spoke as a baby & called itself a muslim.
    Eesa was never crucified & resurrected ... neither was allah yet that is one of allahs STOLEN attributes from the bible that referenced only Jesus!

    Sorry, for writing so much ... got carried away!
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  • Annette Edna R. 2012/07/19 02:57:19
    Annette
    I'm glad you did because you are spot on the money with all you said! Than you!
  • Catherine 2012/04/17 13:58:30
  • Catherine 2012/04/17 13:57:06
    Catherine
    +1
    THIS IS SHARIA LAW, WAKE UP AMERICA STONING
  • Annette Catherine 2012/04/17 20:54:09
    Annette
    I just wish for one week we could ship every American woman over there to see what it is really like. The pictures you're showing are quite real and quite true. My own 2 youngest kids were made to stand and watch a beheading in the center of the market place in Yanbu, Saudi Arabia!!!!! They are worse than monsters.
  • Catherine Annette 2012/04/18 21:11:43
    Catherine
    +1
    ITS EVIL RELIGION...ITS NOT FROM GOD
  • Annette Catherine 2012/04/19 04:33:26
    Annette
    I know that completely. You are so very right.
  • Catherine Annette 2012/04/19 13:57:31
    Catherine
    +1
    THANK YOU, SHARIA LAW MAKES NO SENSE...
  • Catherine 2012/04/17 13:47:50
  • Catherine 2012/04/17 13:46:30
    Catherine
    +1
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    August 13, 2005
    Top ten reasons why sharia is bad for all societies
    By James Arlandson


    Traditional Muslims who understand the Quran and the hadith believe that sharia (Islamic law) expresses the highest and best goals for all societies. It is the will of Allah.
    But is Islam just in its laws that Muhammad himself practiced and invented?
    This article says no for ten verifiable reasons.
    Here are four points you must read, before reading this article:
    First, sometimes these ten points quote the Quran or omit it; sometimes they quote the hadith (reports of Muhammad's words and actions outside of the Quran) or omit it. This is done only to keep down the length of the article. No one should be fooled into believing that these harsh and excessive laws were invented in the fevered imagination of extremists who came long after Muhammad. These harsh and excessive laws come directly from the founder of Islam in his Quran and in his example in the hadith.
    Second, each of these ten reasons has a back—up article (or more) that is long and well documented with quotations and references to the Quran, the hadith, and classical legal opinions. The supporting articles also examine the historical and literary context of each Quranic vers...







































































































































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    August 13, 2005
    Top ten reasons why sharia is bad for all societies
    By James Arlandson


    Traditional Muslims who understand the Quran and the hadith believe that sharia (Islamic law) expresses the highest and best goals for all societies. It is the will of Allah.
    But is Islam just in its laws that Muhammad himself practiced and invented?
    This article says no for ten verifiable reasons.
    Here are four points you must read, before reading this article:
    First, sometimes these ten points quote the Quran or omit it; sometimes they quote the hadith (reports of Muhammad's words and actions outside of the Quran) or omit it. This is done only to keep down the length of the article. No one should be fooled into believing that these harsh and excessive laws were invented in the fevered imagination of extremists who came long after Muhammad. These harsh and excessive laws come directly from the founder of Islam in his Quran and in his example in the hadith.
    Second, each of these ten reasons has a back—up article (or more) that is long and well documented with quotations and references to the Quran, the hadith, and classical legal opinions. The supporting articles also examine the historical and literary context of each Quranic verse. If the readers, especially critics, wish to challenge one or all of these ten reasons, or if they simply doubt them, they should click on the supporting articles. They will see that Muhammad himself actually laid down these excessive punishments and policies.
    Third, it must be pointed out that these harsh laws are not (or should not be) imposed outside of an Islamic court of law. Careful legal hurdles must be passed before the punishments are carried out. However, even in that case, it will become clear to anyone who thinks clearly that these punishments and policies are excessive by their very nature, and excess is never just, as Aristotle taught us in his Nicomachean Ethics.
    Fourth, in each of the lengthy supporting article (or articles), a Biblical view on these infractions of moral law (or sometimes civil law or personal injuries) is presented. One of the reasons we all sense that these Islamic punishments are harsh and excessive is that Christianity has also filled the globe. Even if one is not a Christian or is only a nominal Christian, he or she has breathed deeply of Christianity by virtue of laws and customs or even driving by churches. New Testament Christianity, when properly understood and followed, offers humanity dignity.
    'Islam' in this article stands for Muhammad, the earliest Muslims, and classical legal scholars.
    Here are the top ten reasons why sharia or Islamic law is bad for all societies.
    10. Islam commands that drinkers and gamblers should be whipped.
    In 2001, Iranian officials sentenced three men to flogging not only for illicit sex (see reason no. nine), but also for drinking alcohol.
    In 2005, in Nigeria a sharia court ordered that a drinker should be caned eighty strokes.
    In 2005, in the Indonesian province of Aceh, fifteen men were caned in front of a mosque for gambling. This was done publicly so all could see and fear. Eleven others are scheduled to undergo the same penalty for gambling.
    After going through two previous confusing stages before coming down hard on drinkers and gamblers, the Quran finally prohibits alcohol and gambling in Sura 5:90—91; they do not prescribe the punishment of flogging, but the hadith does. A poor 'criminal' was brought to Muhammad who became angry:
    The Prophet felt it hard (was angry) and ordered all those who were present in the house, to beat him [the drinker dragged into Muhammad's presence]. (Bukhari, Punishments, nos. 6774—6775)
    Thus, we see no offer of help for the alcoholic when he is dragged before Muhammad and his followers. Why does Muhammad not offer rehabilitation? Why does he immediately go to corporal punishment?
    The later classical legal rulings follow the Quran and the hadith, so we do not need to examine them here.
    It is sometimes argued that Islamic countries are pure, whereas the West is decadent. No one can argue with this latter claim, but are Islamic countries pure? The Supplemental Material, below, demonstrates that Islamic countries still have drinking and gambling in them.
    Here is the article that supports this tenth point and that analyzes the confusing Quranic verses on drinking and gambling. It analyzes the hadith and later legal rulings.
    9. Islam allows husbands to hit their wives even if the husbands merely fear highhandedness in their wives.
    In 2004, Rania al—Baz, who had been beaten by her husband, made her ordeal public to raise awareness about violence suffered by women in the home in Saudi Arabia.
    Saudi television aired a talk show that discussed this issue. Scrolling three—fourths of the way down the link, the readers can see an Islamic scholar holding up sample rods that husbands may use to hit their wives.
    The Quran says:
    4:34 . . . If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great. (MAS Abdel Haleem, the Qur'an, Oxford UP, 2004)
    The hadith says that Muslim women in the time of Muhammad were suffering from domestic violence in the context of confusing marriage laws:
    Rifa'a divorced his wife whereupon 'AbdurRahman bin Az—Zubair Al—Qurazi married her. 'Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah's Apostle came, 'Aisha said, "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!" (Bukhari)
    This hadith shows Muhammad hitting his girl—bride, Aisha, daughter of Abu Bakr: Muslim no. 2127:
    'He [Muhammad] struck me [Aisha] on the chest which caused me pain.'
    It is claimed that Islamic societies have fewer incidents of fornication and adultery because of strict laws or customs, for example, women wearing veils over their faces or keeping separate from men in social settings. But these results of fewer incidents of sexual 'crimes' may have unanticipated negative effects in other areas, such as the oppression of women. Generally, sharia restricts women's social mobility and rights, the more closely sharia is followed. For example, in conservative Saudi Arabia women are not allowed to drive cars. In Iran, the law oppresses women. For example, women's testimony counts half that of men, and far more women than men are stoned to death for adultery.
    Here is the supporting article for the ninth point. It has a long list of different translations of Sura 4:34, in order to resolve confusion over this verse, circulating around the web. This longer article has many links that demonstrate the oppression of women under Islamic law (scroll down to 'Further discussion').
    8. Islam allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge—physical eye for physical eye.
    In 2003, in Saudi Arabia a man had two teeth extracted under the law of retaliation.
    In 2003, a court in Pakistan sentenced a man to be blinded by acid after he carried out a similar attack on his fianc�e.
    In 2005, an Iranian court orders a man's eye to be removed for throwing acid on another man and blinding him in both eyes.
    The Quran says:
    5:45 And We ordained therein for them: Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth and wounds equal for equal. But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of charity, it shall be for him an expiation. And whosoever does not judge by that which Allah has revealed, such are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrongdoers . . .). (Hilali and Khan, The Noble Qur'an, Riyadh: Darussalam, 1996)
    This passage allows for an indemnity or compensation instead of imposing the literal punishment of eye for an eye. No one should have a quarrel with this option. According to the hadith, the plaintiff also has the option to forgive, and this is legitimate, provided a judge oversees the process. The problem is the literal law of retaliation.
    The hadith and later legal rulings demonstrate that this excessive option was actually carried out, as do the three modern examples linked above.
    Please go here for the supporting article that cites the hadith and later legal rulings.
    Islamic law calls all of humanity to march backwards 1,400 years BC and to re—impose the old law of retaliation—literally, and the evidence suggest that the Torah never intended the law to be carried out literally, as the supporting article demonstrates.
    7. Islam commands that a male and female thief must have a hand cut off.
    Warning! This short article has photos of severed hands. The reader should never lose sight of the fact that this punishment is prescribed in the Quran, the eternal word of Allah. It does not exist only in the fevered imagination of a violent and sick radical regime like the Taliban, which once ruled in Afghanistan.
    A Saudi cleric justifies chopping off hands here.
    The Quran says:
    5:38 Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done—a deterrent from God: God is almighty and wise. 39 But if anyone repents after his wrongdoing and makes amends, God will accept his repentance: God is most forgiving and merciful. (Haleem)
    At first glance, verse 39 seems to accept repentance before the thief's hand is cut off. But the hadith states emphatically that repentance is acceptable only after mutilation. Muhammad himself says that even if his own daughter, Fatima, were to steal and then intercede that her hand should not be cut off, he would still have to cut it off (Bukhari, Punishments, no. 6788)
    If the reader would like to see more hadith passages, modern defenses of this indefensible punishment (and a refutation of them), and the Biblical solution to theft, they should click on this long supporting article or this shorter one.
    6. Islam commands that highway robbers should be crucified or mutilated.
    In September 2003, Scotsman Sandy Mitchell faced crucifixion in Saudi Arabia. He was beaten and tortured until he confessed to a crime he did not commit: a bomb plot masterminded by the British embassy. The article says of this punishment that it is the worst kind of execution and that two have been carried out in the last twenty years.
    In 2002 Amnesty International reports that even though Saudi Arabia ratified the Convention against Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (Convention against Torture) in October 1997, amputation is prescribed under both Hudud (punishments) and Qisas (law of retaliation). AI has recorded thirty—three amputations and nine cross—amputations where the alternate hand or foot is mutilated.
    The Quran says:
    5:33 Those who wage war against God and His Messenger and strive to spread corruption in the land should be punished by death, crucifixion, the amputation of an alternate hand and foot or banishment from the land: a disgrace for them in this world, and then a terrible punishment in the Hereafter, 34 unless they repent before you overpower them: in that case bear in mind that God is forgiving and merciful. (Haleem)
    It may be difficult to accept, but the hadith says that Muhammad tortured these next people before he executed them. This scenario provides the historical context of Sura 5:33—34. The explanations in parentheses have been added by the translator:
    Narrated Anas: Some people . . . came to the Prophet and embraced Islam . . . [T]hey turned renegades (reverted from Islam) and killed the shepherd of the camels and took the camels away . . . The Prophet ordered that their hands and legs should be cut off and their eyes should be branded with heated pieces of iron, and that their cut hands and legs should not be cauterized, till they died. (Bukhari, Punishments, no. 6802)
    The next hadith reports that the renegades died from bleeding to death because Muhammad refused to cauterize their amputated limbs. Then the hadith after that one reports that the renegades were not given water, so they died of thirst. They probably died of both causes: thirst and loss of blood.
    See this short article for details on another example of Muhammad's use of torture.
    Islamic law says that these punishments are imposed for highway robbery, and in some cases crucifixion does not need a murder before it is imposed.
    For more information on Muhammad's brutality and the barbaric laws that flow out of it, go to the back—up article.
    5. Islam commands that homosexuals must be executed.
    In February 1998, the Taliban, who once ruled in Afghanistan, ordered a stone wall to be pushed over three men convicted of sodomy. Their lives were to be spared if they survived for 30 minutes and were still alive when the stones were removed.
    In its 1991 Constitution, in Articles 108—113, Iran adopted the punishment of execution for sodomy.
    In April 2005, a Kuwaiti cleric says homosexuals should be thrown off a mountain or stoned to death.
    On April 7, 2005, it was reported that Saudi Arabia sentenced more than 100 men to prison or flogging for 'gay conduct.'
    These homosexuals were lucky. Early Islam would have executed them, as these hadith demonstrate.
    Ibn Abbas, Muhammad's cousin and highly reliable transmitter of hadith, reports the following about early Islam and Muhammad's punishment of homosexuals: . . .
    'If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done' (Abu Dawud no. 4447).
    This hadith passage says that homosexuals should be burned alive or have wall pushed on them:
    Ibn Abbas and Abu Huraira reported God's messenger as saying, 'Accursed is he who does what Lot's people did.' In a version . . . on the authority of Ibn Abbas it says that Ali [Muhammad's cousin and son—in—law] had two people burned and that Abu Bakr [Muhammad's chief companion] had a wall thrown down on them. (Mishkat, vol. 1, p. 765, Prescribed Punishments)
    Though this punishment of a wall being toppled on them is extreme, the Taliban were merely following the origins of their religion.
    If the reader would like to see the confusion in the Quran on the matter of homosexuality, the severity in the hadith, and excessive rulings of classical fiqh, they should see the supporting article. This longer one has links to many discussions on Islamic punishments of homosexuals (scroll down to 'Supplemental material').
    4. Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death.
    Fornication:
    In 2001, Iranian officials sentenced three men to flogging for illicit sex.
    The Quran says:
    24:2 The fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each of them with a hundred stripes. Let not pity withhold you in their case, in a punishment prescribed by Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of the believers witness their punishment. [This punishment is for unmarried persons guilty of the above crime (illegal sex), but if married persons commit it (illegal sex), the punishment is to stone them to death, according to Allah's law]. (Hilali and Khan).
    The additions in the brackets, though not original to the Arabic, have the support of the hadith. These command flogging only of unmarried fornicators: Bukhari, Punishments, nos. 6831 and 6833.
    The classical legal rulings follow the Quran and the hadith closely, so we do not need to analyze them here.
    According to this report, in Iran a teenage boy broke his Ramadan fast, so a judge sentenced him to be lashed with eighty—five stripes. He died from the punishment. Though his sad case does not deal with fornication, it is cited here because it shows that lashing can be fatal.
    Adultery:
    In December 2004, Amnesty International reports:
    An Iranian woman charged with adultery faces death by stoning in the next five days after her death sentence was upheld by the Supreme Court last month. Her unnamed co—defendant is at risk of imminent execution by hanging. Amnesty International members are now writing urgent appeals to the Iranian authorities, calling for the execution to be stopped.

    She is to be buried up to her chest and stoned to death.
    This gruesome hadith passage reports that a woman was buried up to her chest and stoned to death:
    And when he had given command over her and she was put in a hole up to her breast, he ordered the people to stone her. Khalid b. al—Walid came forward with a stone which he threw at her head, and when the blood spurted on his face he cursed her . . . (Muslim no. 4206)
    The Prophet prayed over her dead body and then buried her. Truthfully, though, how effective was the prayer when Muhammad and his community murdered her in cold blood? The rest of the hadith says that Muhammad told Khalid not to be too harsh, but the Prophet's words drip with irony. Perhaps Muhammad meant that Khalid should not have cursed her. However, if they really did not want to be harsh, they should have forgiven her and let her go to raise her child.
    Later Islamic legal rulings follow the Quran and the hadith closely, so we do not need to analyze them here.
    Here is the back—up article that supports this fourth reason.
    3. Islam orders death for Muslim and possible death for non—Muslim critics of Muhammad and the Quran and even sharia itself.
    In 1989, Iran's Supreme Leader issued a fatwa (legal decree) to assassinate Salman Rushdie, a novelist, who wrote Satanic Verses, which includes questions about the angel Gabriel's role in inspiring the Quran. Now the extremists in the highest levels in Iran have recently renewed the fatwa.
    In 2005, The Muslim Council of Victoria, Australia, brought a lawsuit against two pastors for holding a conference and posting articles critiquing Islam. Three Muslims attended the conference and felt offended. The two pastors have been convicted based on Australia's vilification law. While on trial, one of them wanted to read from the Quran on domestic violence (see 9, above), but the lawyer representing the Council would not allow it. The pastors are appealing their conviction.
    In 2005, British Muslims have been campaigning to pass a religious hate speech law in England's parliament. They have succeeded. Their ability to propagandize has not been curtailed. Opponents of the law say that it stifles free speech that may criticize Muhammad, the Quran, and Islam.
    Here are the classical legal rulings.
    First, the Muslim deserves death for doing any of the following (Reliance of the Traveler pp. 597—98, o8.7):
    (1) Reviling Allah or his Messenger; (2) being sarcastic about 'Allah's name, His command, His interdiction, His promise, or His threat'; (3) denying any verse of the Quran or 'anything which by scholarly consensus belongs to it, or to add a verse that does not belong to it'; (4) holding that 'any of Allah's messengers or prophets are liars, or to deny their being sent'; (5) reviling the religion of Islam; (6) being sarcastic about any ruling of the Sacred Law; (7) denying that Allah intended 'the Prophet's message . . . to be the religion followed by the entire world.'
    It is no wonder that critical investigation of the truth claims of Islam can never prevail in Islamic lands when the sword of Muhammad hangs over the scholars' head.
    The non—Muslims living under Islamic rule are not allowed to do the following (p. 609, o11.10(1)—(5)):
    (1) Commit adultery with a Muslim woman or marry her; (2) conceal spies of hostile forces; (3) lead a Muslim away from Islam; (4) mention something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet . . . or Islam.
    According to the discretion of the caliph or his representative, the punishments for violating these rules are as follows: (1) death, (2) enslavement, (3) release without paying anything, and (4) ransoming in exchange for money. These punishments also execute free speech—even repulsive speech—and freedom of religion or conscience.
    Ultimately, censorship testifies to a lack of confidence in one's position and message. If the message of Islam were truly superior, one could trust in the power of truth. As it stands, sharia with its prescribed punishments for questioning Muhammad, the Quran, and sharia itself testifies to their weakness since sharia threatens those who dare to differ.
    How confident was Muhammad (and today's Muslims) in his message that he had to rely on violence and force to protect his message, besides reason and persuasive argumentation?
    For the supporting article that analyzes the Quran and the hadith, both of which orders death to critics, click here.
    2. Islam orders apostates to be killed.
    In Iran an academic was condemned to death for criticizing clerical rule in Iran. The rulers assert that he was insulting Muhammad and Shi'ite laws. He was charged with apostasy.
    This analysis tracks the application of apostasy laws around the world, citing many examples.
    Apostates are those who leave Islam, like Salman Rushdie (see the linked article in no. three, above), whether they become atheists or convert to another religion. They are supposed to be killed according to the Quran, the hadith, and later legal rulings.
    See the previous point no. three for acts that entail leaving Islam according to Islamic law.
    Here are the articles that support reason no. two.
    This is a short, but full article on apostasy, citing Quranic verses and hadith passages.
    Sayyid Maududi, a respected Islamic scholar, in this booklet argues that Sura 9:11—12 refers to apostates and that they should be put to death (scroll down to 'The Proof in the Quran for the Commandment to Execute Apostates').
    This Muslim website has an overview of Islam on apostates. They should be given time to repent, but if they refuse, they must be killed.
    And the number one reason why sharia is bad for all societies . . .
    1. Islam commands offensive and aggressive and unjust jihad.
    Muhammad is foundational to Islam, and he set the genetic code for Islam, waging war. In the ten years that he lived in Medina from his Hijrah (Emigration) from Mecca in AD 622 to his death of a fever in AD 632, he either sent out or went out on seventy—four raids, expeditions, or full—scale wars. They range from small assassination hit squads to kill anyone who insulted him, to the Tabuk Crusades in late AD 630 against the Byzantine Christians. He had heard a rumor that an army was mobilizing to invade Arabia, but the rumor was false, so his 30,000 jihadists returned home, but not before imposing a jizya tax on northern Christians and Jews.
    Money flowed into the Islamic treasury. So why would Muhammad get a revelation to dry up this money flow?
    What are some of the legalized rules of jihad found in the Quran, hadith, and classical legal opinions?
    (1) Women and children are enslaved. They can either be sold, or the Muslims may 'marry' the women, since their marriages are automatically annulled upon their capture. (2) Jihadists may have sex with slave women. Ali, Muhammad's cousin and son—in—law, did this. (3) Women and children must not be killed during war, unless this happens in a nighttime raid when visibility was low. (4) Old men and monks could be killed. (5) A captured enemy of war could be killed, enslaved, ransomed for money or an exchange, freely released, or beaten. One time Muhammad even tortured a citizen of the city of Khaybar in order to extract information about where the wealth of the city was hidden. (6) Enemy men who converted could keep their property and small children. This law is so excessive that it amounts to forced conversion. Only the strongest of the strong could resist this coercion and remain a non—Muslim. (7) Civilian property may be confiscated. (8) Civilian homes may be destroyed. (9) Civilian fruit trees may be destroyed. (10) Pagan Arabs had to convert or die. This does not allow for the freedom of religion or conscience. (11) People of the Book (Jews and Christians) had three options (Sura 9:29): fight and die; convert and pay a forced 'charity' or zakat tax; or keep their Biblical faith and pay a jizya or poll tax. The last two options mean that money flows into the Islamic treasury, so why would Muhammad receive a revelation to dry up this money flow?
    Thus, jihad is aggressive, coercive, and excessive, and Allah never revealed to Muhammad to stop these practices.
    For an analysis of the Christian Crusades and the Islamic Crusades, click here.
    For the supporting article of reason no. one, please go here. It also has a segment on the differences between jihad in Islam and the wars in the Old Testament. Another article on that topic can be read here. There are vast differences between Islam and Judaism on this topic.
    Therefore, Islam is violent—unjustly and aggressively.
    Conclusion
    The nightmare must end. Sharia oppresses the citizens of Islamic countries. Islam must reform, but the legal hierarchy in Islamic nations will not do this because the judges and legal scholars understand the cost: many passages in the Quran and the hadith must be rejected, and this they cannot do. After all, the Quran came down directly from Allah through Gabriel, so says traditional theology. So how can Islam reform? But reform it must. It can start by rewriting classical fiqh (interpretations of law). Again, though, that would mean leaving behind the Quran and Muhammad's example. How can the legal hierarchy in Islamic nations do this?
    In contrast, the West has undergone the Enlightenment or the Age of Reason (c. 1600—1800+), so western law has been injected with a heavy dose of reason. Also, the New Testament tempers excessive punishments. At least when Christianity reformed (c. 1400—1600), the reformers went back to the New Testament, which preaches peace and love. So religion and reason in the West permit justice to be found more readily—the Medieval Church is not foundational to Christianity; only Jesus and the New Testament are.
    Can Islamic countries benefit from an Enlightenment that may deny the Quran and the hadith? This seems impossible. Islamic law threatens Muslims with death if they criticize Muhammad and the Quran, not to mention denying them.
    Since Islamic law cannot be reformed without doing serious damage to original and authentic Islam—the one taught by Muhammad—then a second plan must be played out. Sharia must never spread around the world. At least that much is clear and achievable. The hard evidence in this article demonstrates beyond doubt that sharia does not benefit any society, for it contains too many harsh rules and punishments.
    One of the most tragic and under—reported occurrences in the West in recent years is the existence of a sharia court in Canada. Muslims are pushing for a sharia divorce courting Australia as well. Having a court of arbitration if it is based on western law and legal theory is legitimate, but sharia does not hold to this standard. Whether sharia is imposed gradually or rapidly, Canada should promptly shut down any sharia court, and Australia should never allow one. Such a court should never be permitted in the US, the rest of the West, or anywhere else in the world that is battling Islam.
    It is true that the Enlightenment teaches tolerance, but it also teaches critical thinking and reasoning. Sharia cannot stand up under scrutiny. It is intolerant and excessive, and Aristotle in his Nicomachean Ethics teaches the West that excess is never just.
    Thankfully, the province of Quebec, Canada, has forbidden sharia. This is the right initiative.
    Sharia ultimately degrades society and diminishes freedom.
    James M. Arlandson may be reached at jamesmarlandson@hotmail.com
    Supplemental material:
    In private emails to me or on websites, Muslim apologists (defenders) claim that the Islamic way of dealing with vices is superior to the western way, even in Islam's punishments like flogging and stoning. It is true that the West is filled with decadence, but are Islamic countries pure and pristine through and through, as these Muslim apologists imply? To anyone whose mind has not been clouded by a lifetime of devotion to Islam, the answer to this rhetorical question is obvious. Alcohol and other intoxicants and gambling serve as test cases.
    This article says that Bahrain, an island and independent sate that is connected to Saudi Arabia by a causeway, provides a 'breathing lung' for Saudis because this Islamic island allows the free flow of alcohol and a night life. The words 'breathing lung' in Bahrain mean that Saudi Arabia suffocates people. On the weekends an average of 40,000 cars line up to cross the bridge.
    This article discusses the smuggling of alcohol in Saudi Arabia and says:
    "Western analysts note that alcohol smuggling of the magnitude underway in Saudi Arabia —— perhaps tens of millions of dollars' worth of illegal merchandise annually —— would likely involve the complicity of Saudi customs agents and perhaps a higher—level patron."
    This article reveals how Iranians get around the official ban on alcohol, like beer and vodka and other intoxicants, like opium. A black market has sprung up—just like the one in America during Prohibition.
    This article says that even though the Taliban, the tyrants who formerly ruled Afghanistan, outlawed the growth of poppies, which are the source of opium, the leaders of the Taliban may have profited from the drug trade. The new and democratic government has a hard time keeping this drug under control.
    This article says that authorities in Turkey threaten to imprison online gamblers, and this page links to a report (scroll to the second one) that discusses how Turkey must deal with the problem of monetary interest, alcohol, and gambling. It is revealing to see how Muslim religious leaders try to squirm out of Quranic laws against interest, in order to help Islamic financial institutions make money.
    The purpose of these links is not to condemn Islamic countries or to assert that the West is better than they are. Facts say that the West has many problems. Rather, the purpose is to demonstrate that Islamic countries have their share of problems as well. This means that Islamic countries are also decadent. This means that Islamic punishments do not work entirely (except by scare tactics), but they can drive the sin or crime underground.
    on "Top ten reasons why sharia is bad for all societies"
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  • Dagon 2012/02/22 07:01:45
  • Annette Dagon 2012/02/22 13:48:25
    Annette
    +4
    Quite correct. In fact, in Chicago, IL some years back there was a Nazi demonstration outside of a Jewish synagogue. The Jews wanted to have the demonstration stopped, and although they had the hecklers away from the crowd, the consensus was that the demonstrators had the right to be there because this is America, and freedom of speech is perfectly legal (or it used to be) in our country.
    What's that saying you hear solders use? "I may not like what you say, but I will die to preserve your right to say it." Something to that effect. That is quite true.
  • Dagon Annette 2012/02/22 15:06:20
  • Old Salt 2012/02/22 06:31:15
  • Annette Old Salt 2012/02/22 13:48:55
    Annette
    +2
    Why do I like the way you think so much?
  • shadow76 2012/02/18 17:07:31
    shadow76
    +2
    It is hard to believe that Michigan Govt Are too cowardly or ignorant to stop this. It is insane.
  • Annette shadow76 2012/02/18 18:03:02
    Annette
    +3
    They have infiltrated the area and are now in charge. This didn't happen over night. It takes a long time for them to slowly wend their way into a community and eventually take it over; but that is exactly what they do. They are like the wolf in Red Riding Hood, make no mistake about it.
  • shadow76 Annette 2012/02/18 20:50:31
    shadow76
    +2
    I hope people are smart enough to stop this from happening elsewhere!
  • Annette shadow76 2012/02/19 03:06:58
    Annette
    +1
    Hopefully the more they see how much they take and give back nothing in kind, they will be smart enough to stop this. But I wouldn't hold my breath on it!
  • shadow76 Annette 2012/02/19 16:56:57
    shadow76
    +2
    They won't wake up until it is too late.
  • Annette shadow76 2012/02/20 04:46:00
    Annette
    +1
    I think you may be right. That's just how some people are - they don't learn until it really does them some serious damage!
  • shadow76 Annette 2012/02/20 09:05:11
    shadow76
    +1
    Unfortunatly probably us too!
  • Annette shadow76 2012/02/20 13:57:27
    Annette
    +1
    If we don't act - YES!
  • shadow76 Annette 2012/02/21 02:22:47
    shadow76
    +1
    I am ready to fight, how?
  • Annette shadow76 2012/02/21 04:22:48
    Annette
    +1
    Just sent you an email, hon.
  • shadow76 Annette 2012/02/23 17:28:01
    shadow76
    +2
    Cool thanks!
  • Rick Annette 2012/02/20 04:51:10
    Rick
    +2
    Did you see the Newsweek magazine about all the Christians being slaughtered in Islamic nations?
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
  • shadow76 Rick 2012/02/21 02:24:52
    shadow76
    +3
    I don't read Newsweek but I know from other sources. I also know that the persecution is causing the Christianity to grow too.
  • Rick shadow76 2012/02/25 18:12:25
    Rick
    +4
    Christianity is growing fast in Israel and the Islamic world.
  • shadow76 Rick 2012/02/26 09:53:40
    shadow76
    +3
    Yes I have been hearing that too. God did say near they end he would return to his people,
  • Annette Rick 2012/02/21 04:23:56
    Annette
    +2
    Didn't see it in Newsweek, but I have been listening to it and reading about it from other sources. Thanks for the link. I think I might have answered it already - will have to check again.
  • Dinkiedow 2012/01/29 20:27:40
    Dinkiedow
    +3
    When You Think Sharia Financial Compliant [Sharia Law] Look No Further Than Elena Kagan Obama's Latest addition to the Supreme Court.

    Kagan Brought Sharia To Harvard University With The Financing Of Saudi Prince & $100,000 dollars While She Was Dean!

    Now,Larry Summers President Harvard Has Taken Millions More From The Muslim Terrorist And Has Opened at least Three More Sharia Compliant Complexes,With Obama's Guidance!

    Michael Bloomberg NYC Mayor Opened Two Sharia Compliant Financial Companies In Malaysia 2/22/2011 Yuan Exchange and Chinese Sukuk Bonds all to Collapes The Dollar!
    Bloomberg has moved all his Billions Over Seas along With,Bill Gates,Warren Buffett,George Soros all Sharia Compliant.

    If Not Bad Enough as of 3/1/2011 $81 Billion of these Sharia Crap has been moved into your 401k's in which they intend to move The Stock Market Globel Out Of These United States Under The Guidance Of Sharia Financial making the Yuan Up Your Sukuk!

    Facts,Nothing But Facts,Just Type Bloomberg Sharia,Bloomberg News It's All There!!

    AIN'T YOU SO PROUD YOUR LEADERS SOLD YOU OUT!

    No Freedom Towers Because Chinese & Islamics Can Not Be Offendes,Obama,Bloomberg!

    NOW WE HAVE ONE WORLD BEIJING PLAZA,H-O-O-R-A-Y!!!!

    YOU'VE BEEN SCREWED BY ALL 536 IN WASHINGTON.BYE AMERICA-HELLO SHARIA'S ONE WORLD!!
  • The Gov... Dinkiedow 2012/04/10 03:05:16
    The Govenor
    +1
    Wowwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!11
  • Annette The Gov... 2012/04/19 04:39:24
    Annette
    +1
    Yes wowwwwww - believe him. You have no idea the horrors of sharia law, and those are just the financial ones.
  • Jane 2012/01/29 12:23:30
    Jane
    Sharia law is not in place just because there appears to be more Muslim people in the community then the less than tolerant Christians are comfortable with, the Christians have been the persecutors here. They have spread lies about the Muslim community in Dearborn through out their Christian community in the US.
  • Annette Jane 2012/01/29 15:19:22
    Annette
    +4
    Lies about the Muslims - such as???

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