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SF Considers Strict Outdoor Smoking Ban -- Except For Medical Pot: Ridiculous?

Fef 2012/07/23 16:00:00
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The San Francisco Board of Supervisors wants to ban the smoking of everything -- except medically prescribed marijuana -- at public events on city property. The law would allow smoking marijuana at a child book fair or walk for cancer, but would ban smoking cigars and cigarettes at such public events.

Supervisor Eric Mar said, "It’s widely known that secondhand smoke is responsible for as many as 73,000 deaths among non-smokers each year in the United States, and there is no safe level of exposure." Mar also said he does not see the city having the resources to actively enforce the ban, and will require event sponsors to post signs and make announcement saying, "No Smoking." Do you think the idea is reasonable or ridiculous?

SANFRANCISCO.CBSLOCAL.COM reports:
Smoking anything other than medically-prescribed marijuana at San Francisco street fairs, festivals and other outdoor events held on city property would be banned under new legislation before the Board of Supervisors.

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  • Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ 2012/07/20 22:42:20 (edited)
    Reasonable
    Scott ヶBrony Of PHAETヶ
    +15
    So it's banning it from such events as street fairs, festivals and other outdoor events, with large congregations of people? The way you worded it, it sounded like they were forcibly banning it from smoking anywhere outside...

    Also medical marijuana does not cause cancer, i say this because the way this was typed up made it 'sound' as if it was ironic that it could be smoked at "walk for cancer" events.

    Do I agree with it being banned at street festivals/fairs and outdoor events? Somewhat, I understand it more than I agree with it anyway.

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  • bobdole 2012/12/09 01:34:56
    Ridiculous
    bobdole
    if smoking ciggarettes is legal, how can you tell me where not to do it?
  • West Coast Kitty 2012/07/29 04:14:21
  • tuskbaby 2012/07/26 05:59:26
    Ridiculous
    tuskbaby
    +1
    Both should be legal outside.
    Is this really a thing?
  • Scott tuskbaby 2012/09/17 23:45:30
    Scott
    +2
    I'm sure they will find an audience for it, there is after all one born every minute. Soon they will be dictating dress code for all public area, and puting rules in place for everything from the car that you drive to the color of your bathroom fixtures. It's crap like this that gave birth to this country.. Freedom, or the lack of it.
  • Barbara Hasler 2012/07/25 16:52:10
    Ridiculous
    Barbara Hasler
    I have learned not to be amazed by anything SF takes upon itself as far as playing big mama on it all too willing citizens.
  • bill.fife.3 2012/07/25 14:37:28
    Reasonable
    bill.fife.3
    I answered this way only because there wasn't a third choice. I can see some logic behind this but don't completely agree with the language used.
    In fact I think it's a bit much to lump all outdoor activities under a single blanket law. The size of the crowd, whether seated, standing or in motion and crown density are all factors in how much anyone is exposed to secondhand smoke from whatever source.
    It remains a fact that marijuana is the only smokeable herb now available through a doctor's prescription that's known to heal more that hurt. So I mean if you're waiting for medical science to ever do the same thing for cigarettes, don't hold your breath. *cough*
  • Michaelene 2012/07/25 12:57:27
    Ridiculous
    Michaelene
    +2
    Honestly i don't expect anything but rediculous from San Francisco, it's like a small foreign bizarre country in the midst of America.
  • Monty Michaelene 2012/08/26 21:48:53
    Monty
    +1
    that it is
  • Michaelene Monty 2012/08/26 21:53:38
    Michaelene
    I know better places to party, lol
  • Panloker 2012/07/25 12:25:23
  • PandahSixx 2012/07/25 08:10:22
    Ridiculous
    PandahSixx
    +1
    california is a messed up place, save the animals, legalize marajuana -_-
  • elvira 2012/07/25 06:54:37
    Ridiculous
    elvira
    +2
    I am a non-smoker. Indoor smoking bans are a good idea. Outdoor smoking bans may not be.
  • Bob DiN 2012/07/25 06:04:59
    Ridiculous
    Bob DiN
    +1
    Everything about San Francisco is ridiculous.
  • kofp 2012/07/25 03:51:46
    Ridiculous
    kofp
    +2
    If someone is in the area smoking and you're afraid for health concerns just walk away to a place where no one is smoking. I think we had it right in the old days. Restaurants should have smoking and no smoking sections but the areas need to be sealed off from one another where they do not connect.
  • overlord rai 2012/07/25 03:47:57
    Ridiculous
    overlord rai
    +4
    Remind me not to smoke my legal cigarettes in San Fran.
  • Chi~Cat 2012/07/25 03:21:48
    Ridiculous
    Chi~Cat
    +4
    Good ol' Nancy, handing out bongs for votes again, we see.
  • Angryface01 2012/07/25 03:05:40
    Ridiculous
    Angryface01
    +3
    I wish there had been a "weird" option
  • darrell.mackenzie 2012/07/25 02:21:37
    Ridiculous
    darrell.mackenzie
    +3
    stfu san francisco board of supervisors
  • ready46xwu 2012/07/25 02:20:11
    Ridiculous
    ready46xwu
    +3
    Just 'another lil FREEDOM taken away~
    and, while we r distracted with that,
    They 'CHANGE OUR WAY OF LIFE'!
  • Chris 2012/07/25 02:05:56
    Ridiculous
    Chris
    +5
    I understand banning it indoors as it's a private establishment, but you don't own the outdoors, anyone can smoke outdoors, that's silly.
  • seadog6608PWCM 2012/07/25 01:16:49
  • Gary Devon Linger 2012/07/25 00:43:36
    Ridiculous
    Gary Devon Linger
    +7
    This is the kind of thinking that gives a bad name to all liberals when there are plenty of us who see the absurd nature of the extreme left. Most sound liberals do not agree with this kind of government interference in our personal lives. Unfortunately all liberals are vilified and lumped into the same category by many conservatives.

    I myself do not believe in laws that are designed to save us from ourselves. Also in the instance of outrageous over the top laws that do not prove to protect others, I find that outrageous. The world is a big place and I doubt those smoking outdoors pose a real threat to others who do not smoke. If I am near a smoker outdoors there is plenty of space for me to walk away from the smoker. If not I could ask that the smoker tries to direct their smoke away from me and/or my child. If the event I am in decides to punish anyone for not directing their smoke away from me that is great. If not I can politely leave the event. There is no way anyone throwing an event for the community should be told how to run their event. If the event is a government run event than that is the governments choice. Otherwise it is absurd to use the paranoia that exist regarding second hand smoke to be used as a false tool to control the masses.

    I understand laws exist...



    This is the kind of thinking that gives a bad name to all liberals when there are plenty of us who see the absurd nature of the extreme left. Most sound liberals do not agree with this kind of government interference in our personal lives. Unfortunately all liberals are vilified and lumped into the same category by many conservatives.

    I myself do not believe in laws that are designed to save us from ourselves. Also in the instance of outrageous over the top laws that do not prove to protect others, I find that outrageous. The world is a big place and I doubt those smoking outdoors pose a real threat to others who do not smoke. If I am near a smoker outdoors there is plenty of space for me to walk away from the smoker. If not I could ask that the smoker tries to direct their smoke away from me and/or my child. If the event I am in decides to punish anyone for not directing their smoke away from me that is great. If not I can politely leave the event. There is no way anyone throwing an event for the community should be told how to run their event. If the event is a government run event than that is the governments choice. Otherwise it is absurd to use the paranoia that exist regarding second hand smoke to be used as a false tool to control the masses.

    I understand laws exist to protect people from harm but in the instance where that harm is not eminent and a sure threat to all involved it is wrong. Second hand smoke does cause harm to some but should laws exist to protect us from possible long term damage?

    Alcohol is easily available in many public places and those who are intoxicated many times are an instant danger to our safety. Still we see that in many public places alcohol is allowed. Why should laws exist to possibly protect us from something that may or may not harm us? If second hand smoke does cause harm it is not an immediate threat to us. For that reason it is wrong to outlaw it in public. People can take reasonable precautions from it. Violence and poor judgment from those who consume lots of booze are a way bigger threat to the public. Deal with that threat before trying to worry about possible long term risk from second hand smoke.

    Of coarse it will get to the point where everything that is not deemed good for us or others around us will be outlawed. This despite people being able to make choices to protect themselves from danger.
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  • bill.fi... Gary De... 2012/07/26 03:04:58
    bill.fife.3
    Well said, and I am reminded of the number of times I have heard conservative politicians accuse those on the left of wanting to "grow" government. So why are these "nanny laws" as I call them not considered excessive? Perhaps if legislators respected their voters enough not to treat them like children we may have fewer adults acting that way.
    Who said, "that government is best that governs least"? Liberal or conservative, it's what a free country is supposed to be about. The founding fathers certainly understood this basic principle.
  • West Co... Gary De... 2012/07/29 04:16:29
  • Christopher Kirchen 2012/07/24 23:39:56
    Ridiculous
    Christopher Kirchen
    +1
    Pot smoke is more harmful than tobacco smoke.
  • Chris Christo... 2012/07/25 02:07:00
    Chris
    No, it's not.
  • Fredrick House 2012/07/24 23:30:19
    Reasonable
    Fredrick House
    +1
    Reasonable only in San Francisco. They should also legalize heroin, opium smoking, Methamphetamine, drunk driving, unsafe sex, murder, child prostitution, political corruption,and any other abominable behavior you can think of. What would we do without this Sodom and Gomorrah Pelosi Hell Hole? But never never never fail to enact a cap and trade carbon unit law.
  • nicesteve 2012/07/24 23:11:15
    Ridiculous
    nicesteve
    +4
    Although I'm a non smoker myself (actually an ex two pack a day smoker), I don't see
    any justification to a blanket ban on all outdoor tobbacco smoking. Designating and
    setting up smoking quads and shelters at least 10 meters (aprox. 33 feet) away from
    building entrances and ventilation air intakes, transit stops and platforms, and especially
    away from areas frequented by children and teens, should be more than sufficient. In
    some cases, it maybe neccessary to locate such smoking zones on top of building rooftops. Unfortunately, San Francisco is another one of these major metropolises that has become known for it's nanny government.
  • miserykills 2012/07/24 22:25:18
    Reasonable
    miserykills
    Yes people have the right to smoke but I should also have the right to not breathe in secondhand smoke. Ruining your life is ok. Ruining mine is not.
  • Gary De... miseryk... 2012/07/25 00:58:00
    Gary Devon Linger
    +4
    Stay away from public events where you know people smoke. People who run private events should not be forced by the government to protect you. Nobody holds a gun to your head and makes you leave your home to go to places where people smoke. I don't smoke and hate smoking but the reality is that smoking is legal and people do so in many places I go. I have a choice to avoid places where there is a lot of people smoking. If you are that concerned with second hand smoke than wear a face covering filter.

    In the end there are far worse immediate threats to your health when you step outside than second hand smoke from smokers. In fact second hand smoke is probably the least of your worries. People on earth living and being in public is a serious threat to our safety so should the government control and orchestrate our every movement and/or choices in hopes we do not hurt one another?
  • joseph digristina 2012/07/24 20:21:44
  • smitty 2012/07/24 20:00:07 (edited)
    Ridiculous
    smitty
    +1
    Are the going to ban industry and chimney from "smoking".

    I say if a state wants to "ban" smoking.. They should not receive any of the "tax" money associated with smoking.

    Are they related to Bloomberg?
  • Cleaver62 2012/07/24 19:55:53
    Reasonable
    Cleaver62
    I hate smoking. I don't care if people do it indoors or outdoors. It stinks and it is dirty. As far as I am concerned, the world would be a much better place if there was no smoking.
  • Tom 2012/07/24 19:41:30
    Ridiculous
    Tom
    +4
    Gotta love the moon-bats running that city.
    They are TOO funny.
  • Alex tuck 2012/07/24 19:13:49
    Ridiculous
    Alex tuck
    +3
    .."So what next.." ,I know lets make people shuv filters down their throats so as not to pollute the air with Nitrogen!
  • SiliconSorcerer 2012/07/24 19:09:19
    Ridiculous
    SiliconSorcerer
    +2
    but you didn't ask which part? ;)
  • Bella 2012/07/24 19:09:10
    Reasonable
    Bella
    +2
    Marijuana has never killed anyone, unlike cigarettes. Recent studies have shown that lab rats with Alzheimer's that have been given THC show reduced signs and tumors have shrunk with caniboid therapy. We can't deny people medicinal drugs that can save lives or enhance quality of life.
  • smitty Bella 2012/07/24 20:02:52
    smitty
    +2
    Doesn't marijuana cause the munchies.. which in turn causes people to eat.. which in turn causes overweight people.. which in turn causes diabetes which in turn causes death?

    i would love my father in law to smoke some weed then. Alzheimer's is a nasty disease.
  • Kaleoku... smitty 2012/07/24 20:22:39
    Kaleokualoha
    +2
    Your causation link reminds me of the funny DirecTV ads advising why people should move from cable.
  • smitty Kaleoku... 2012/07/24 20:44:02
    smitty
    +1
    Man I love those ads too! I guess it was in the back of mind.
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