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Sexing the Dead? -(After the wife has lain on the floor or divan for 7, 8, 10 hours, she is just not so appealing a sex object)

JoeBtfsplk 2012/04/28 13:56:29
Latest (and possibly the one most likely to raise eyebrows of a permanently cynicized public) outrage to hit the news world is that Egyptian authorities are reportedly giving the nod to their...upright...citizenry to have sex with their dead wives "for the first six hours" without it being forbidden or a problem for the cultically Observant. We can observe that, as with fish, fresh is best. After the wife has lain on the floor or divan for 7, 8, 10 hours, she is just not so appealing a sex object as she was when she was newly stricken, stroked, decapitated, or cardiac-arrested for whatever reason.

Early random thought: clearly, when such a process of postmortem frolick (PMF) -- or hoisting the djellabiya for last-minute gropes and kinky funk -- has gone on, vital organs begin to deteriorate and are progressively less viable than had they been whisked to a portable organ ice-chest and EMSed to the nearest clinic and/or hospital to contribute to the healthy prolongation of the lives of others.

But perhaps organ donation -- other than the obvious one attached to the (live) husband -- is not the predominant thought on the "mind" of the PMF activist in the household of the recently removed-from-life.

Of course, organ donation is not wildly popular in Egyptian households, whatever caused the death of the wife.

What seems to be more critical and important is that this is, like cliteridectomy, done under frightful conditions, and despite it being illegal in many places and not even in the Koran as it is currently malpracticed -- as far as I know -- this ruling is exceedingly uncool: a dead body may present a communicable disease, condition, or a-borning fatal development -- and such abysmal acts of demented and brute ignorance encourage bacteriological spread (as it were). A hot climate is a lot less sensible in which to indulge than would be an igloo, perhaps, where deterioration is quite a bit slower than in humid, sweltery homes in the 100- to 120-degrees-Fahrenheit zone sans the saving grace of A/C.

It is something no civilized nation indulges in. In societies where such practices as eating the brains of the dead (usually enemy dead, to be sure -- nothing so clammy as one's own kinfolk) occur, diseases such as kuru and equivalents often ensue, with genetic sequellae and untoward organic consequences in the long term. Flesh-eating disease. Even the current blare in the tabloids, mad cow disease, comes from eating the flesh of infected animals. If the body has been treated in a conventional morgue, moreover, exposure of infectious agents and toxins to corporeal soft tissues can even transmit carcinogenic diseases treatable with radiation.

Not to mention, of course, the danger of contracting HIV/AIDS, if the wife had it, and the husband thinks he can get away with unprotected erotic acts, because there is no worry about the wife becoming pregnant. Or how about herpes, and other sexually transmitted indelicacies, or garden-variety infections?

All this for a salacious connubial necrophili-act with the ex- or former (insert John Cleese and dead parrot ref., for Monty Python fans) wife. Some of these diseases are active shortly after being contracted, and some lie dormant, like scorpions hiding in the desert sands until a juicy prospect comes along. A second or third wife, perhaps. But though they may emerge slowly in some instances, when they finally flare up, they are doozies, sometimes rendering people infertile, blind, mad, even paralyzed.

Husbands who marry after this episode of PMF will surely fail to take precautions based on a paltry few intromissions with the gone and forgotten wife, ensuring a revisiting of health peril upon newer, updated models of wife/victim.

Yes, in societies where messing with the dead is seen as acceptable, massive and often hard-to-contain diseases often develop that spread among the living. Aside from these two conditions that are deplorable and unacceptable in 2012, the husband who seeks sex from an unwilling or sleeping or sick or recovering wife might in fact then kill her just to have sex despite her demurrers. It seems bizarre to say so, but in fact Islam is infamous for fevers of crime against millions of the living and enemy dead -- it is not unexpected that men who are allowed -- nay, encouraged -- to beat their wives and kill wayward daughters insisting on their right to marry out or convert or the like might simply kill the wife, have sex, and tell the medical examiner that she died after sex. Tsk, such a nice woman, she had been.

They behead women, their daughters, and their own wives with impunity, since the cult is little more than a shell for male domination of others and conquest of nations in the name of "religion," with maximum prejudice against non-sharing "infidels." So what would stop them from wholesale murder should their abused wives choose to say no to sex.

Recall that the word has gone out not long ago that Arab men may breast-feed off lactating female adults who are not their wives or kin -- using some sort of bizarre reasoning to justify this excuse for mammary play with strangers, without running afoul of prostitution laws or adultery accusations.

I think this is the forward edge of a great many new abuses by the cultist-Islamists -- in addition to all the horrific behaviors we have come to abhor and revile -- one more reason the unhinged or the mosque-jostled madmen can exert their small-organ, small-income, small-mind, limited-vision (take your pick of temporal "reasons" and rationales) extremist lack of self-esteem.

Actually, screwing the dead is no new thing among that particular belief-system: Mohammed, according to the hadith, had sex with his aunt -- three days after she was buried. No wonder there's so much weirdness among a certain section of earth's inhabitants.

It all seems a quite unexceptional extension of their current vilifying misbehaviors.

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  • D.C.Verdone 2012/05/02 00:07:03
    D.C.Verdone
    I would take the word of a girl who seems to be about my age and has no reason to lie and lives in the place where this is SUPPOSEDLY happening over someone who has at every turn been shown what he posted to be untrue. Even if it was innocently thought this was true, just admit you are wrong when it has been proven to you.
  • JoeBtfsplk D.C.Ver... 2012/05/02 02:18:28
    JoeBtfsplk
    Bahrain is not Egypt. Stay tuned. This issue hasn't been decided yet.
  • D.C.Ver... JoeBtfsplk 2012/05/02 17:32:55
    D.C.Verdone
    If you were wrong about the going on's of where she lived hun that usually makes your information less reliable. I guess that is my point.
  • JoeBtfsplk D.C.Ver... 2012/05/02 17:42:37
    JoeBtfsplk
    I wasn't wrong 'hun' - you have the opportunity to read our back and forths -

    I will bet you this comes to pass. Wanna put any money where your mouth is?
  • Zuggi 2012/04/28 14:13:22
    Zuggi
    +2
    Man, you really will believe anything that agrees with your preconceptions, won't you?

    http://nymag.com/daily/intel/...
    http://www.csmonitor.com/Worl...
    etc....
  • JoeBtfsplk Zuggi 2012/04/28 14:18:15
    JoeBtfsplk
    +1
    Egypt did this.

    You need to clean out your ears, eyes, and brain(if you have one).
  • JoeBtfsplk JoeBtfsplk 2012/04/28 14:18:41
    JoeBtfsplk
    +1
    maybe when you grow up?
  • Zuggi JoeBtfsplk 2012/04/28 14:22:01
    Zuggi
    No. A large part of the internet fell for a hoax.
  • Walaa JoeBtfsplk 2012/04/28 14:25:00
    Walaa
    +1
    Listen I'm from the middle east I watch middle eastern news thats around me that speak the same language I do. That did not happen, however I'm sorry for decreasing the level of excitement you had once reading this piece somewhere.
  • JoeBtfsplk Walaa 2012/04/28 14:31:00
    JoeBtfsplk
    The UK Daily Mail is reporting that the Muslim Brotherhood has passed a law granting husbands permission to have sex with their wives up to six hours after the wife has died. It's exactly right. "Egyptian husbands will soon be legally allowed to have sex with their dead wives -- for up to six hours after their death. The controversial new law is part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Islamist-dominated parliament," under the control of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    I don't know if this is new or if it's been practiced and they just finally had to codify it because it's been going on for so long.
  • Walaa JoeBtfsplk 2012/04/28 14:41:13
    Walaa
    +1
    That is NOT true. I'm muslim I'd know that even though their believes are well a diffrent type of islam than mine but that is not true. Besides the "Muslim Brotherhood" are extremists. I must say that the media really does hate us. They dont even say which type of islam they follow they dont mention the rallies against terrorism as well as campaignes all they present and send you is the existance of extremists and suggest or let the reader/viewer get to assuming that they are the majority. All I have to say is one word. IGNORANCE. Its getting to a point where this is unbearable its so misunderstood by SO many its frustrating convincing the people 1 post at a time that what the media is presenting to you is BULL. Just visit the middle east and you be the judge. Come to Bahrain or Emirates Oman somewhere. But well not Saudi even I dont go there.
  • JoeBtfsplk Walaa 2012/04/28 14:43:35
    JoeBtfsplk
    You should be aware that this may become law in Egypt.

    It appears to be up in the air at the moment.
  • Walaa JoeBtfsplk 2012/04/28 14:46:02
    Walaa
    which channel is that crap on I did not read/seen anything so far.
  • Walaa JoeBtfsplk 2012/04/28 14:50:19
    Walaa
    +1
    I have just looked looked into this, it appears to be a misunderstanding by your source, for what they must understand that the case is that a sheikh in Islam or a Priest is what you call it or know, said or claimed that it is okay to have sex with your dead wife. Many sheikhs state bazaar things that they approve on to fullfill their desire. This does not mean that people do that. It was a wave of shock that went through that made this so popular and apparently esculated to the point where people started making this a whole new story to do with ISLAM as a whole.
  • JoeBtfsplk Walaa 2012/04/28 14:41:29
    JoeBtfsplk
    OK - you may be correct, but the issue remains to be voted on.

    What will the outcome be?


    Egypt’s National Council for Women (NCW) has appealed to the Islamist-dominated parliament not to approve two controversial laws on the minimum age of marriage and allowing a husband to have sex with his dead wife within six hours of her death according to a report in an Egyptian newspaper.

    The appeal came in a message sent by Dr. Mervat al-Talawi, head of the NCW, to the Egyptian People’s Assembly Speaker, Dr. Saad al-Katatni, addressing the woes of Egyptian women, especially after the popular uprising that toppled president Hosni Mubarak in February 2011.

    She was referring to two laws: one that would legalize the marriage of girls starting from the age of 14 and the other that permits a husband to have sex with his dead wife within the six hours following her death.

    According to Egyptian columnist Amro Abdul Samea in al-Ahram, Talawi’s message included an appeal to parliament to avoid the controversial legislations that rid women of their rights of getting education and employment, under alleged religious interpretations.

    “Talawi tried to underline in her message that marginalizing and undermining the status of women in future development plans would undoubtedly negatively affect the country...





















    OK - you may be correct, but the issue remains to be voted on.

    What will the outcome be?


    Egypt’s National Council for Women (NCW) has appealed to the Islamist-dominated parliament not to approve two controversial laws on the minimum age of marriage and allowing a husband to have sex with his dead wife within six hours of her death according to a report in an Egyptian newspaper.

    The appeal came in a message sent by Dr. Mervat al-Talawi, head of the NCW, to the Egyptian People’s Assembly Speaker, Dr. Saad al-Katatni, addressing the woes of Egyptian women, especially after the popular uprising that toppled president Hosni Mubarak in February 2011.

    She was referring to two laws: one that would legalize the marriage of girls starting from the age of 14 and the other that permits a husband to have sex with his dead wife within the six hours following her death.

    According to Egyptian columnist Amro Abdul Samea in al-Ahram, Talawi’s message included an appeal to parliament to avoid the controversial legislations that rid women of their rights of getting education and employment, under alleged religious interpretations.

    “Talawi tried to underline in her message that marginalizing and undermining the status of women in future development plans would undoubtedly negatively affect the country’s human development, simply because women represent half the population,” Abdul Samea said in his article.

    The controversy about a husband having sex with his dead wife came about after a Moroccan cleric spoke about the issue in May 2011.

    Zamzami Abdul Bari said that marriage remains valid even after death adding that a woman also too had the same right to engage in sex with her dead husband.

    Two years ago, Zamzami incited further controversy in Morocco when he said it was permissible for pregnant women to drink alcohol.

    But it seems his view on partners having sex with their deceased partners has found its way to Egypt one year on.

    Egyptian prominent journalist and TV anchor Jaber al-Qarmouty on Tuesday referred to Abdul Samea’s article in his daily show on Egyptian ON TV and criticized the whole notion of “permitting a husband to have sex with his wife after her death under a so-called ‘Farewell Intercourse’ draft law.”

    “This is very serious. Could the panel that will draft the Egyptian constitution possibly discuss such issues? Did Abdul Samea see by his own eyes the text of the message sent by Talawi to Katatni? This is unbelievable. It is a catastrophe to give the husband such a right! Has the Islamic trend reached that far? Is there really a draft law in this regard? Are there people thinking in this manner?”

    Many members of the newly-elected, and majority Islamist parliament, have been accused of launching attacks against women’s rights in the country.

    They wish to cancel many, if not most, of the laws that promote women’s rights, most notably a law that allows a wife to obtain a divorce without obstructions from her partner. The implementation of the Islamic right to divorce law, also known as the Khula, ended years of hardship and legal battles women would have to endure when trying to obtain a divorce.

    Egyptian law grants men the right to terminate a marriage, but grants women the opportunity to end an unhappy or abusive marriages without the obstruction of their partner. Prior to the implementation of the Khula over a decade ago, it could take 10 to 15 years for a woman to be granted a divorce by the courts.

    Islamist members of Egyptian parliament, however, accuse these laws of “aiming to destroy families” and have said it was passed to please the former first lady of the fallen regime, Suzanne Mubarak, who devoted much of her attention to the issues of granting the women all her rights.

    The parliamentary attacks on women’s rights has drawn great criticism from women’s organizations, who dismissed the calls and accused the MPs of wishing to destroy the little gains Egyptian women attained after long years of organized struggle.
    (more)
  • Walaa JoeBtfsplk 2012/04/28 14:44:29
    Walaa
    I have nothing to add, if you choose to believe this than so be it. The minimum age of marriage may be true but the sex with the dead wife no it is not.
  • JoeBtfsplk Walaa 2012/04/28 14:50:24
    JoeBtfsplk
    It is to be decided. My guess that sex with the dead will pass.

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