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Seventh Grader Says Bloodlines of 42 of 43 U.S. Presidents Link Back to King John of England: Believable or Baloney?

Fergie 2012/08/08 22:00:00
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A 7th grader made national news this week when her genealogy report revealed that 42 of the 43 U.S. presidents are descendants of King John Lackland of England. (Our 8th President Martin Van Buren is the only one not related.)

BridgeAnne d'Avignon was supposed to trace her own genealogy for the assignment, but doing so sparked her interest and she ended up spending months researching 500,000 names before coming to this amazing discovery. I actually went to the same school she attends and did that same project -- it's still in my closet somewhere -- so now I'm thinking I should have put more effort into it... But what do you guys think? Are her findings believable?

NYDAILYNEWS.COM reports:
A young California girl made the ultimate presidential family tree and found that all of the U.S. commander-in-chiefs except for one share an ancestor - King John of England.
ultimate presidential family tree commander-in-chiefs share ancestor king john england

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  • BritPunk 2012/08/08 19:51:58
    Believable
    BritPunk
    +20
    Maybe , but I still need to see King John's long form birth certificate.
    And his college records.

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  • scurvison Josh Ro... 2012/08/09 17:51:15
    scurvison
    +1
    Hes to busy telling voters how he really feels to get elected. You goota lie thru your teeth like Barry does
  • Grammar... Josh Ro... 2012/08/09 19:47:56
    Grammar Freak
    Uhhhh... are you sure you want to say something like that?
    You do realize, don't you, that they will if they feel they have to.
    That is not something I'm interested in having happen.
  • Josh Ro... Grammar... 2012/08/09 19:56:49
    Josh Robinson
    It's soooo creepy... and now these people have mechanical eyes and ears in every corner of the world.
  • Grammar... Josh Ro... 2012/08/09 20:07:34
    Grammar Freak
    They're usually called "computers" nowadays.
    ;-)
  • Josh Ro... Grammar... 2012/08/09 21:04:10
    Josh Robinson
    Yea... computers. mosquito drone
  • Grammar... Josh Ro... 2012/08/10 11:25:36
    Grammar Freak
    Those little gadgets are pretty freakin' cool, but not used nearly as often as the gadgets you & I are banging away at now. The monitoring of our communicative traffic online & via telephone is simply astounding... & illegal. But we, The People, know about it & do nothing to stop it.
    Does it really matter which marionette goes into the White House?
    ...really?
    Like you said, the one guy who isn't bought & paid for is pretty much out. I doubt Gary Johnson has as much chance as Paul because no one knows him. So, between the big two, I seriously doubt that it will matter... the same Gepetto will pull the strings regardless.

    ...& that little gadget there is one that behaves like a mosquito, right... stinging someone with a little poison to knock them out (or whatever), I believe, instead of a listening device.
    I suppose it could serve multiple functions though.
  • Josh Ro... Grammar... 2012/08/10 13:25:46
    Josh Robinson
    It's another untruth that we do nothing to stop it. If that were true we would have S.O.P.A./C.I.S.P.A. etc. We strike back now more than ever in the technological revolution. But they own the news/media/healthcare and school system so we are literally surrounded but oppression.
  • Grammar... Josh Ro... 2012/08/11 17:11:54
  • Josh Ro... Grammar... 2012/08/11 17:17:41
    Josh Robinson
    We can't come together because they are great at dividing and turning us against each other. The people start to find a voice then BAM... A Trayvon... or some other scandal published in the most inflammatory of language.
  • Grammar... Josh Ro... 2012/08/11 17:32:48
    Grammar Freak
    +1
    Exactly.
    And notice that it's BOTH parties doing it equally.
    Bipartisan votes to take away our liberties & equally divisive rhetoric from both sides against anyone who doesn't subscribe to their views.
    The sheeple, wanting to belong to something, wanting to believe in something, wanting to believe they are patriotic, just buy into the blah blah & contribute to the problem.

    Vote out every incumbent.
    Vote your conscience & don't buy the "party" rhetoric.
    All the b.s. be damned. Vote for the candidate running whom you believe would be best for the USA... not the "lesser of two very extreme evils."
  • Josh Ro... Grammar... 2012/08/11 17:48:48
    Josh Robinson
    +1
    That's why im so Die-Hard about R.P. He's not a republican nor democrat.
  • Grammar... Josh Ro... 2012/08/12 16:13:41 (edited)
    Grammar Freak
    Me too.
    But, since he doesn't seem to be doing much at the moment (given up), I would suggest Gary Johnson as an excellent alternative. Frankly, I would love to see a Paul/Johnson ticket, but I doubt very seriously that is going to happen.
    I also thought John Huntsman was a better, more viable choice than any of the mainstream picks of the Republican Party.
    I think the situation is now clear: you can tell how good the candidate is by how much disdain the "party" shows him/her.

    I honestly do not think the Republicans actually want to win. Maybe it's more fun for them to have someone else to lay blame on our problems. They certainly don't have a serious candidate. Romney just WANTS to be president. He wants it so bad he's willing to cheat to get it. But he is so dumb, dishonest, so awful, such a snob that it would be a crime to put him in the White House. The last thing we need is a repeat of what we have now & that's all Romney is. The only differences between the two are skin color & "party" affiliation.

    Where's Ross Perot when we need him?
  • Josh Ro... Grammar... 2012/08/12 16:28:19
    Josh Robinson
    This time before the RNC is referred to in politics as ''the doldrums'' which is a sailors term referring to an area of the ocean that receives no wind to push sails. There is nothing worth spending money on right now but shutting Ron Paul up. His campaign isn't funded by billionaires so he can't keep the T.V. and news plastered with his face, but believe me, when the RNC gets closer, you will hear A LOT from Ron Paul and his band of die-hard constitutionalists. In a sense we're letting them duke it out, holding back for the right time to expend the resources we do have left.
  • Grammar... Josh Ro... 2012/08/12 17:02:29
    Grammar Freak
    +1
    Well, I'm waiting.
    I hate the idea of giving up. I hate the idea that our nation is lost for good.
    I just hate it.
    ...& from here, that's what it looks like.
  • caninev69 Josh Ro... 2012/08/10 02:09:37
    caninev69
    Strewth Josh I'm RH negative too! lol! But seriously, I knew there was something with their bloodlines, but I didn't know about this. Maybe the rhesus negative factor is the reptilian factor? I may have to do some research on reptilian haemoglobin now.
  • Josh Ro... caninev69 2012/08/10 03:34:44
    Josh Robinson
    My understanding of (Rhesus -) bloodtype is that it lacks a ''monkey'' component of the rest of human beings, or perhaps RH- is a cover-up term for (Reptile+) lol. dfhyj
  • Billyk75 2012/08/09 15:04:19
    Baloney
    Billyk75
    ??????????
  • Tuna 2012/08/09 14:53:03
    Believable
    Tuna
    Only since "Killing Lincoln"; they have all been related to the British, the Federal Reserve, and progressives. Funny how $$$ changes people; all people. killing lincoln related british federal reserve progressives funny people people
  • caninev69 Tuna 2012/08/10 02:56:15 (edited)
    caninev69
    +1
    Tuna, you've just opened a can of worms as big as the solar system, or probably bigger. Not sure if most of the readers on here are ready for this. It has been suggested that the American presidents are also related to the British royal family, & to other royal families like Denmark's etc. 'Celebrity Circuit' says -

    "The heir to the British throne said genealogy shows that he is related to Vlad, giving him a stake in the future of Romania. The prince has long worked to conserve the forests and has bought a home in the Transylvania region.

    The link, it appears, is his great-grandmother, Mary of Teck, who was grandmother to Britain's current ruler, Queen Elizabeth II, and was queen during the reign of King George V. A Wurttemberg princess, Mary - the woman for whom the liner Queen Mary was named - was believed descended from two of Vlad's sons."

    It has been suggested that the British royal family bloodline goes back to the Egyptian pharaohs, & the Sumerians (the very first human civilization apparently). The Sumerians had staggering technology for the FIRST civilization, & they believed humans were bred from reptilian aliens reproducing with some variety of earth ape. The 'elites' were bread from the higher alien leaders.
  • Tuna caninev69 2012/08/10 11:09:59
    Tuna
    That british royal bloodline also goes back to the Kings of Israel is where the Egypt thing comes in. The last king was Zedekiah when Israel was taken captive by the Persians. His sons were killed right before his eyes andthen his eyes gouged out. His daughter escaped with Jeremiah and fled to Egypt. At that time Egypt (sumerian.semites) was the Sanai Peninsula. That daughter sailed tothe Isles with Jeremiah who became known as Oldenfallah in gaelic. Her name was Scota from whom Scotland is named. The Stone of Scone (Scoon in Scottish) rests under the royal throne on which all the royal family are coronated; that Stone is Jacob's pillar written of in the hebrew bible. The isles also have three horned sheep that only exist there and in Israel. Other hebrews migrated north over theCaucasus Mountains to be known as caucasians; also settling those isles, all of Europe, Russia, andlater the Americas.
  • Rick Armin 2012/08/09 14:51:24
    Believable
    Rick Armin
    +2
    I think incest has been the rule among the "elite" (I still can't figure out how the dregs of humanity became known as the "elite") for many centuries. I have for a long time believed we never really broke away from England.
  • Rick Armin Rick Armin 2012/08/09 14:57:00
    Rick Armin
    +4
    Since it appears I've been blocked from answering "voice_matters," I'll answer here.

    As a conspiracy “nutjob,” I will say I might be surprised if this were true, but not astonished.

    These might be of interest to those who are not among the damned fools who believe in the accidental, stupidity, or Darwinian evolution theories of government. The first is a map and plan of the world from 1941-42 that shows how the world was to be after defeat of the Axis. Not all has come true and, in some areas the plan may have changed, but what has come true could only have been accomplished through the plan. Note especially the S.S.R.'s. Not all materialized, but the Eastern Europe S.S.R.'s did. Again, although FDR was blamed for ceding them to the Soviets at Yalta, it was already planned right here and probably before Pearl.

    The second is a list of quotes related to world government and/or NWO.

    http://lostliberty1.wordpress...

    http://lostliberty1.wordpress...

    Conspiranoiacs need not bother to look. You'd probably think a Kindergarten kid just threw some ink into the air and that's how it landed.

    Conspiranoia: A mental illness characterized by a morbid, irrational fear of the word conspiracy. Persons afflicted with Conspiranoia often hear voices from the “mainstream media” and institutions...

    Since it appears I've been blocked from answering "voice_matters," I'll answer here.

    As a conspiracy “nutjob,” I will say I might be surprised if this were true, but not astonished.

    These might be of interest to those who are not among the damned fools who believe in the accidental, stupidity, or Darwinian evolution theories of government. The first is a map and plan of the world from 1941-42 that shows how the world was to be after defeat of the Axis. Not all has come true and, in some areas the plan may have changed, but what has come true could only have been accomplished through the plan. Note especially the S.S.R.'s. Not all materialized, but the Eastern Europe S.S.R.'s did. Again, although FDR was blamed for ceding them to the Soviets at Yalta, it was already planned right here and probably before Pearl.

    The second is a list of quotes related to world government and/or NWO.

    http://lostliberty1.wordpress...

    http://lostliberty1.wordpress...

    Conspiranoiacs need not bother to look. You'd probably think a Kindergarten kid just threw some ink into the air and that's how it landed.

    Conspiranoia: A mental illness characterized by a morbid, irrational fear of the word conspiracy. Persons afflicted with Conspiranoia often hear voices from the “mainstream media” and institutions of higher indoctrination telling them to shutdown their minds at the mention of the word.

    Conspiranoiac: One who suffers from Conspiranoia; that is, a person with a deep seated, psychotic fear of the word conspiracy. At the mere mention of the word, even a hint of it, the conspiranoiac hides in his Denial Closet under a pile of “mainstream media” and books from such places as Ivy League colleges, the Brookings Institute, Rand, and M.I.T. Conspiranoiacs can be identified by a conditioned reflex that causes them to bleat “crackpot,” “lunatic,” “paranoid,” “kook” and similar epithets at anyone who, by calling their attention to reality, disturbs their happy little world in which all that happens in politics and government is the result of accident, stupidity, or Darwinian Natural Evolution. Conspiranoiacs can also be identified by their mindless, incoherent mumblings about “tinfoil hats.”
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  • Michael S. Rick Armin 2012/08/09 16:51:28
    Michael S.
    +1
    King John lived so long ago that if he has a lot of descendants, it wouldn't be too unusual for most Presidents (or most of us) to be descended from him, so "bloodline conspiracy" isn't exactly the first thing I'd jump to.

    That said, I understanding that it was voice_matters's obnoxious post that led you to post this, so...interesting links. +1 :)
  • Rick Armin Michael S. 2012/08/09 20:10:34
    Rick Armin
    +1
    If George Washington was related, chances are we all are. He was, after all, called the "father of our country" and he did seem to sleep in a lot of places. Are we to believe he always slept alone?

    I'm not much on bloodline either. I'm more interested in the money line.

    Glad you found the links interesting. I think I was the first on the internet to post legible copies of the map. I did this in several discussion group galleries using three segments I'd scanned from a blueprint copy I had. The L of C didn't digitize its copy until several years later.

    I got my copy from Ed Balajeski. Ed was a conspiracy watcher most of his adult life. He added substantial material that he collected to that which he inherited from an elderly Philadelphia woman who'd been a watcher most of her adult life. The result was a forty foot basement filled with undeniable proof that one or more conspiracies to destroy our economy, liberty, and national sovereignty exist.

    Ed has a site, but what he has up is a drop in the bucket. Also, he has someone running the site for him, and I think a lot of newer material has been added that wasn't in Ed' collection. I'm not to thrilled with that.

    http://www.pennsylvaniacrier....
  • Michael S. Rick Armin 2012/08/09 20:20:59
    Michael S.
    A FORTY FOOT basement filled with this stuff? Wow. That's fascinating...I suppose he's entrusted it all to the person running his site for scanning and posting purposes? What's the difference with the newer material, btw? Is it too much filler, not enough primary sources, or...?

    If I were him, I can't imagine how paranoid I would be about something happening to that collection before it was completely scanned.
  • Rick Armin Michael S. 2012/08/10 00:55:11
    Rick Armin
    +1
    I may have exaggerated slightly. Naturally, there was nothing by the stairs, but from there down to the end was a row of bookcases filled to overflowing. Bookcases, interspersed with an occasional file cabinet also lined the back wall and the opposite wall back to about ten feet from the end of the basement. In the center was a double row of back to back file cabinets. Everything was overflowing. I think if the overflow had been put in cases and cabinets, they would have filled his personal storage space too.

    The only thing wrong in most cases is that it was readily available on the web. His collection is not. Also, they sometimes link to adverts. I don't know if Ed knows that.

    I don't know if Ed's paranoid about it, but I am. I don't know if it matters anyway. As someone once observed, the only thing we learn from history is that we never learn from history. Look at all of the people who think that another change of banker's men is going to make a difference.

    To tell the truth, I haven't talked to Ed in years. For all I know, he may be dead. If not, he's around 82 or 83 years old.
  • Michael S. Rick Armin 2012/08/10 01:22:33 (edited)
    Michael S.
    +1
    I agree that it probably wouldn't matter in terms of getting people to see what's going on today. Most people shut down and whip out the tin foil hat jpegs and ROFLCOPTERS and "too many people would have to be in on it" arguments at the first sign of anyone suggesting that powerful human beings act with purpose (i.e. conspiracy talk). It doesn't help that a lot of us really do approach the matter from a crazed chicken little "YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE ME!!!1!" standpoint, but it doesn't matter much anyway, since people have been conditioned to the point that that's what most people hear regardless of what we actually say.

    Still, I do think information like that is important for historical purposes, especially primary sources. I'm optimistic that we'll get out of this mess eventually. Someday historians are going to look back and wonder what madness led us to such disastrous policies in this era, and I really hope they have all of the pieces they need to put the puzzle together.
  • Rick Armin Michael S. 2012/08/10 01:30:20 (edited)
    Rick Armin
    I believe that the "New Age" that's "dawning" will be a dark age that will make the last look like a Super Nova by comparison. It will be a Black Hole from which the light of truth may never escape. Still, I keep plugging away (with a lot less enthusiasm) in the hope that one spark I ignite will continue to burn and eventually flare up to light the darkness.

    You already saw what I said about Conspiranoiacs, right?
  • Michael S. Rick Armin 2012/08/10 03:03:36 (edited)
    Michael S.
    Yeah, I thought it was cute. ;)

    I'm not very optimistic for the short-term or medium-term either, but I'm definitely optimistic for the long term: Few may know the ins and outs of what's going on behind the scenes conspiracy-wise (I don't either) or even care to take a fair look, but a huge number of people have awoken to the realization that the MSM is a propaganda machine steering us toward totalitarian government.

    I think Ron Paul's sudden and unprecedented success at sparking a movement for individual liberty has come as a huge and unexpected blow to the establishment "elite," and that they're scrambling to maintain the facade. Whereas they were previously content "boiling us slowly," it appears they're accelerating the march toward an absolute government control grid over the populace in fear that they're running out of time...but this itself is not going unnoticed. There are forums I post on where the great majority now realize that the government is moving steadily toward panopticon-style surveillance in a systematic and purposeful manner, when just a few years ago such a suggestion would have gotten you laughed out of a relevant thread as fast as a "laser beams from Mars" interpretation of 9/11. (There are still a lot of partisan-saturated places where people don't g...





    Yeah, I thought it was cute. ;)

    I'm not very optimistic for the short-term or medium-term either, but I'm definitely optimistic for the long term: Few may know the ins and outs of what's going on behind the scenes conspiracy-wise (I don't either) or even care to take a fair look, but a huge number of people have awoken to the realization that the MSM is a propaganda machine steering us toward totalitarian government.

    I think Ron Paul's sudden and unprecedented success at sparking a movement for individual liberty has come as a huge and unexpected blow to the establishment "elite," and that they're scrambling to maintain the facade. Whereas they were previously content "boiling us slowly," it appears they're accelerating the march toward an absolute government control grid over the populace in fear that they're running out of time...but this itself is not going unnoticed. There are forums I post on where the great majority now realize that the government is moving steadily toward panopticon-style surveillance in a systematic and purposeful manner, when just a few years ago such a suggestion would have gotten you laughed out of a relevant thread as fast as a "laser beams from Mars" interpretation of 9/11. (There are still a lot of partisan-saturated places where people don't get it, including here, but acceptance is growing.)

    We may yet still have to live through absolute tyranny...maybe...but enough people are now educated enough about the principles of liberty (e.g. individual rights) and the hazards of arbitrary centralized power that no matter how and when the collapse comes, we will have a fighting chance at countering the media spin and final push for a world fiat currency and regional or one-world unlimited government.

    The leviathan faces serious challenges overtly eliminating free speech in particular: There are 200 million guns in circulation in the US and a deep-seated aversion to giving them all up willingly, and we have perhaps the strongest free-speech heritage in the world. It's been weakened for sure, but I suspect it's still stronger than our benevolent overlords would prefer. Our friends in Europe have less of a respect for absolute free speech and equivocate on "hate speech" and the like, but they also have a more laid back disposition at odds with overt bullying than the US population, so that's their strength...any government would have to keep up appearances to some degree to avoid backlash in their case. (In contrast, I sometimes feel we've been brainwashed so badly by war propaganda that many of us have devolved nearly to the level O'Brien refers to in 1984, only able to feel "the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless.")

    Even if we fail to stop the initial rise of a one-world government or similar, there are now enough of us to keep enough truth alive in the darkness to spark a resistance when the time is right...such as the first time the one world fiat currency fails and has to be rolled over into a new one. I do not see us becoming North Korea, and the future is not a boot stamping on a human face forever.
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  • Rick Armin Michael S. 2012/08/10 04:27:40
    Rick Armin
    +1
    I guess you're already aware of the Department of Homeland Suppression placing an open order for up to 450 million rounds of special hollow point 40 cal. bullets. They aren't military ordinance. That ammo is strictly intended for use against us. All in all, I hope you're right. Unless something happens soon, there's a good chance I won't be here to see it.
  • Michael S. Rick Armin 2012/08/10 14:06:51 (edited)
    Michael S.
    +1
    Yes, I read about that a few months ago. I'd like to think it's just about corruption and government largesse used to benefit politically connected businessmen, but I think that's a stretch, and my first thought is exactly the same as yours. Still, ordering the ammunition and actually being able to get away with massacres without widespread opposition or (if we're lucky) defections are two very different things.
  • caninev69 Rick Armin 2012/08/10 03:11:45
    caninev69
    +1
    This new age they talk about will be with dumbed down, sexually neutral, human cattle. The 'chem trails' that accompany 'con trails' are poisoning us with barium salts & aluminium & other destuctive materials that will evenyually alter our genetic makup. A new breed of human.
  • Rick Armin caninev69 2012/08/10 04:29:27
    Rick Armin
    And a lot smaller herd.
  • caninev69 Rick Armin 2012/08/10 03:01:55
    caninev69
    Interesting isn't it, that the money line follows the bloodline, or rather visa versa!
  • Grammar... Rick Armin 2012/08/09 19:57:25
    Grammar Freak
    +2
    He (voice_matters) has me blocked as well. I have no idea why. I didn't even know he existed until I tried to agree with him a few days ago.

    I find blocking to be a sign of weakness of those who are only interested in singing with a choir, not discussing or debating with anyone who might disagree. Learning new things & discovering different perspectives is one of the joys of life... & desperately needed in our nation right now. It will be a sad day when I'm no longer able to learn anything new.
  • Rick Armin Grammar... 2012/08/09 20:21:55
    Rick Armin
    +2
    It's sad, but sometimes it seems Sodahead caters to cowards.
  • Michael S. Rick Armin 2012/08/09 20:25:05
    Michael S.
    At least it's not Youtube. :D
  • Rick Armin Michael S. 2012/08/09 20:40:05
    Rick Armin
    I've heard some bad reviews on YouTube, but I really don't know what the beef is. I know some things disappear, but it seems like sometimes it's the posters that pull them down. What's your take. What makes YouTube so bad?
  • Michael S. Rick Armin 2012/08/09 20:41:13
    Michael S.
    I was actually referring to the quality of the comments and commenters!
  • caninev69 Rick Armin 2012/08/10 02:31:09 (edited)
    caninev69
    Yeah 'conspiracy nutjobs' is the easy standard answer for most sheeple. They're too caught up in the system to see what's being done to them. Keep your radar set for maximum gain as will I. At least we'll know when it's time to run before they will. I shall check out those links you left. I won't block you mate!

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