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Sen. Harry Reid Says Romney Hasn't Paid Any Taxes in 10 Years: Stunt or Truth?

Chris D 2012/08/07 20:00:00
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Well here's a way of getting Romney to release his tax records: accuse him of not paying taxes for 10 years. The heat is getting turned up on Mitt Romney to release his tax records. The claim seems to be outrageous and inflammatory, but may in fact be true. We won't know the real truth unless Romney releases historical tax records. Is Senator Reid right -- or is this all just a political stunt?

FOXNEWS.COM reports:
Mitt Romney called on Harry Reid Tuesday to reveal the source for his claim that the Republican presidential candidate has not paid taxes for 10 years, stepping up pressure as two major fact-check sites ruled Reid had no basis for the incendiary allegation.
stepping pressure major fact-check sites ruled reid basis incendiary allegation

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  • Broddy 2012/08/07 22:02:35
    It's Just a Political Stunt
    Broddy
    +20
    the best answer to this question is do you honestly think that if Romney had NOT paid his taxes that the IRS which currently answers to Barack Obama would not be all over him?

    Yes the IRS doesn't need to ask him for his Tax records because they already have them.

    Not only is it a stunt but worse is people are stupid enough to fall for it.

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  • Bannor ... ComeOnNow 2012/08/11 04:30:47
    Bannor Haruchai
    A major contributing factor in Europe's problems was buying tons of toxic American financial assets packaged as AAA.
    Thank you, Senator Gramm.
    If you think a "flat tax" is anything but a regressive scheme that will further penalize the lower tiers and benefit the top brackets, you're breathtakingly blinkered.
    Birth control is not bankrupting you. Ridiculous military spending, a lack of a comprehensive and well-run single-payer healthcare plan and superlative corporate welfare along with a bought Congress and a beholden SCOTUS are the millstones that'll drown America.
  • ComeOnNow Bannor ... 2012/08/11 04:34:15 (edited)
    ComeOnNow
    Nonsense, it is the entitlement junkies rioting in the streets for pensions and hand outs for doing nothing productive. You have your head in your rear. By the way it was the democrats that forced down underwriting standards and creates those securities with their pets Fannie and Freddie. As Barney frank was screwing the CEO of Fannie as he lied stealing $90 million in additional bonuses on the backs of tax payers. Not to mention that bill clInton was the one that heavily negotiated the bill and signed into law. Nice try but yet again the democrats lack substance.
  • Bannor ... ComeOnNow 2012/08/11 05:07:19
  • ComeOnNow Bannor ... 2012/08/11 05:15:46 (edited)
    ComeOnNow
    So lets look at one thing at a time, lets look at the ssub prime crisis.

    Fannie and Freddie started creating the mortgage backed securities and the secondary market for the instraments in the first place. Both of which were created by the democrats, by the way.

    And all fof this happened long before Clinton heavily negotiated, Gramm-Beech-Bailey and signed it into law.

    It was also the democrats that push lower down payments, lower credit scores, higher debt to income, and then sued banks that did not comply with their agenda.


    I did notice that you failed to mention which policy of Bush's it was exactly since you were blaming him and trying to change the subject.


    This timeline shows that the wheels were long in motion and it was primarily Democrat entitlement programs that caused this mess.


    1938: The Federal National Mortgage Association, commonly known as Fannie Mae, is established (as part of Franklin Delano Roosevelt's New Deal) to purchase and securitize mortgages to ensure that funds are consistently available to the institutions that lend money to home buyers.

    1968: Fannie Mae is converted from a federal government entity to a stand-alone government sponsored enterprise (GSE) which purchases and securitizes mortgages to facilitate liquidity in the primary m...

























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    So lets look at one thing at a time, lets look at the ssub prime crisis.

    Fannie and Freddie started creating the mortgage backed securities and the secondary market for the instraments in the first place. Both of which were created by the democrats, by the way.

    And all fof this happened long before Clinton heavily negotiated, Gramm-Beech-Bailey and signed it into law.

    It was also the democrats that push lower down payments, lower credit scores, higher debt to income, and then sued banks that did not comply with their agenda.


    I did notice that you failed to mention which policy of Bush's it was exactly since you were blaming him and trying to change the subject.


    This timeline shows that the wheels were long in motion and it was primarily Democrat entitlement programs that caused this mess.


    1938: The Federal National Mortgage Association, commonly known as Fannie Mae, is established (as part of Franklin Delano Roosevelt's New Deal) to purchase and securitize mortgages to ensure that funds are consistently available to the institutions that lend money to home buyers.

    1968: Fannie Mae is converted from a federal government entity to a stand-alone government sponsored enterprise (GSE) which purchases and securitizes mortgages to facilitate liquidity in the primary mortgage market. The move takes the debt of Fannie Mae off of the books of the government.

    1970: Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac) is created by an act of Congress, as a government sponsored enterprise, to buy mortgages on the secondary market, pool them, and sell them as mortgage-backed securities to investors on the open market; 1971 it issues its first Mortgage Participation Certificate security.

    1970s: Private companies begin mortgage asset securitization with the creation of private mortgage pools in the 1970s.

    1992: Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 required Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to devote a percentage of their lending to support affordable housing increasing their pooling and selling of such loans as securities; Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) created to oversee them

    1993: The Federal Reserve Bank of Boston published "Closing the Gap: A Guide to Equal Opportunity Lending" which recommended a series of measures to better serve low-income and minority households, including loosening income thresholds for receiving a mortgage, influencing government policy and housing activist demands on banks thereafter.

    1994: Riegle-Neal Interstate Banking and Branching Efficiency Act of 1994 (IBBEA) repeals the interstate provisions of the Bank Holding Company Act of 1956 that regulated the actions of bank holding companies.

    1995: New Community Reinvestment Act regulations break down home-loan data by neighborhood, income, and race, enabling community groups to complain to banks and regulators about CRA compliance. Regulations also allows community groups that market loans to collect a broker's fee.[20] Fannie Mae allowed to receive affordable housing credit for buying subprime securities.

    In 1995, Bill Clinton (Democrat) said, we need more minorities to have houses, and not only deregulated the banking industry, but also strengthened the Community investment act. In the new regulations Clinton required banks and lending institutions to lend to people with low income and bad credit, and made it to where the government would secure these loans. When banks still refused to do the risky lending, Bill Cllinton had his HUD person Andrew Cuomo sue banks forcing them on them.
    Obama also sued Citi forcing them to do more sub prime lending as well.
    Sub prime loans went from less than 5% of all loans to 20% of all loans under Clinton. He built the foundation for this mess.
    Here is Clinton's HUD Director (Andrew Cuomo).

    YouTube- How The Democrats Caused The Financial...


    1997: Mortgage denial rate of 29 percent for conventional home purchase loans. Investors purchased more than $60 billion of subprime mortgage backed securities, six times more than 1991’s volume of $10 billion.[9] (private label securities, not GSE backed)

    July: The Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997 expanded the capital-gains exclusion to $500,000 (per couple) from $125,000, encouraging people to invest in second homes and investment properties.

    November: Freddie Mac helped First Union Capital Markets and Bear Stearns & Co launch the first publicly available securitization of CRA loans, issuing $384.6 million of such securities. All carried a Freddie Mac guarantee as to timely interest and principal.

    First Union was not a subprime lender.
    1998: Incipient housing bubble as inflation-adjusted home price appreciation exceeds 10% per year in most West Coast metropolitan areas.

    October: "Financial Services Modernization Act" killed in Senate because of no restrictions on Community Reinvestment Act-related community groups written into law

    Federal Reserve Bank of New York rescues Long-Term Capital Management hedge fund in 1998, which a Government Accountability Office critic said encouraged risky loans on assumption government will bail out "too big to fail" banks and companies.

    1998-2008: With increase in sales of mortgage-backed securities, companies buy more Credit default swaps, unregulated insurance contracts used to protect debt holders; these increased 100-fold from, with estimates of the debt covered by such contracts, as of November 2008, ranging from $33 to $47 trillion.

    1999:
    September: Fannie Mae eases the credit requirements to encourage banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is not good enough to qualify for conventional loans.

    November: Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act "Financial Services Modernization Act" repeals Glass-Steagall Act, deregulates banking, insurance and securities into a financial services industry allow financial institutions to grow very large; limits Community Reinvestment Coverage of smaller banks and makes community groups report certain financial relationships with banks

    2000: Lenders originating $160 billion worth of subprime, up from $40 billion in 1994. Fannie Mae buys $600 million of subprime mortgages, primarily on a flow basis. Freddie Mac, in that same year, purchases $18.6 billion worth of subprime loans, mostly Alt A and A- mortgages. Freddie Mac guarantees another $7.7 billion worth of subprime mortgages in structured transactions.

    October: Fannie Mae commits to purchase and securitize $2 billion of Community Reinvestment Act eligible loans,

    November: Fannie Mae announces that the Department of Housing and Urban Development (“HUD”) will soon require it to dedicate 50% of its business to low- and moderate-income families" and its goal is to finance over $500 billion in Community Reinvestment Act related business by 2010.

    December:Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 defines interest rates, currency prices, and stock indexes as "excluded commodities," allowing trade of credit-default swaps by hedge funds, investment banks or insurance companies with minimal oversight[34], and contributing to 2008 crisis in Bear Stearns & Co, Lehman Brothers, and AIG.

    George W. Bush (Republican) tried 17 times to set tighter restrictions on the Mortgage industry starting when he got in office as early as 2001. In 2003 Bush warned that we need a radical change in the regulation of this industry and that otherwise this would have devastating affects on the economy. The Democrats opposed this so strongly that it was rejected. Bush should have repealed the faiiled policies of the Democrats, but he did not. That was his controbution.
    Here is when Bush tried to regulate the mortgage industry.


    YouTube- Fox News Special Report on The Banking...
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  • john ri... ComeOnNow 2012/08/10 02:52:03
    john richardson
    +3
    Not in the dumocRATS mind , a weak military , extreme debt, and a socialist agenda is not tearing America down remember they're transforming America into a utopia for America haters.
  • bob h. Bannor ... 2012/08/09 17:12:33
    bob h.
    +1
    My take is that Reid doesn't know or care about Robmey's returns. What he does know is that once his wife says "No Returns", Mittski hangs his head and says "Yes, Dear". Nobody want's a whipped Pres.
  • us 2012/08/09 02:51:46
    It's Just a Political Stunt
    us
    +1
    Question is did Harry Reid pay his taxes? WHy don't check everyone in the white house, that include Obama, It would be interesting to see who does pay taxes?
  • Bannor ... us 2012/08/09 11:36:25
    Bannor Haruchai
    +2
    If what you meant was to check everyone in Congress and the Senate, then I agree
  • us Bannor ... 2012/08/16 03:36:30
    us
    thank you,
  • Diane 2012/08/09 02:43:42
    Harry Reid Is Right
    Diane
    +2
    Romney's hiding something. Maybe he took advantage of the 2009 tax amnesty for people who illegally evaded taxes by hiding money in offshore accounts. There was a limited time when, if they came forward and agreed to pay back taxes, interest, and penalties, they would not go to jail.
  • shaltov72 2012/08/09 02:37:49
    It's Just a Political Stunt
    shaltov72
    +2
    ried is an evil sick senile liar like obumsky!
  • bob h. shaltov72 2012/08/09 17:15:28
    bob h.
    Go for a sentence; I know you can do it.
  • Stacy F 2012/08/09 02:17:02
    It's Just a Political Stunt
    Stacy F
    +6
    Political double-talk. Nothing more.

    obama three stooges
  • carlton999 2012/08/09 02:14:22
    Harry Reid Is Right
    carlton999
    +4
    If Harry Reid is lying, prove him wrong.
  • Transqu... carlton999 2012/08/09 07:23:26
    Transquesta
    +1
    Google "prove a negative"
  • ohsmith ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/08/09 00:56:39
    It's Just a Political Stunt
    ohsmith ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +3
    I think Reid is telling half truth.
  • Marshal Artz 2012/08/09 00:42:23
    Harry Reid Is Right
    Marshal Artz
    +4
    He wouldn't dare say it if it were not true. If it isn't true Romney can show some more tax papers to make Harry Reid look real silly. And harm Obama badly. But don't expect it to happen, when you have something to hide.
  • Jalysa Ellis 2012/08/09 00:13:59
    Harry Reid Is Right
    Jalysa Ellis
    +2
    Everyone's pays taxes; when you buy a donut, or some "hardware supplies". Mitt Romney's the same. The real question is if he's paid federal taxes.
    Basically Reid's asking, "Have you paid taxes, Romney?" and he can just be like, "Why, yes, yes I have." 'Paid some last night when I bought my fois gras stuffed bison loin for dinner.' troll face
  • Chris D Jalysa ... 2012/08/09 00:32:02
    Chris D
    +1
    Federal Income taxes is the claim....
  • Jalysa ... Chris D 2012/08/09 02:58:15
    Jalysa Ellis
    +2
    Third person today- okay. English lesson number 3 coming from the German: When you ask a question, and don't make clear EXACTLY what you're looking for, someone can give a half-truth/vague answer. Do you understand?
  • B.O.Plenty 2012/08/08 23:49:06
    Harry Reid Is Right
    B.O.Plenty
    +3
    This crook needs to be jailed for shipping all our jobs to china,India and mexico. Now the sorry SOB wants to be president. Any one that votes for this skum bag is crazy.
  • Bob DiN 2012/08/08 23:30:03
    It's Just a Political Stunt
    Bob DiN
    +4
    Harry Reid is a big liar and hypocrite. What about Harry's taxes and his kickbacks from the Nevada Gambling Cartels. You can bet the Gambling Cartels don't send in 1099's and you can bet Harry doesn't report the income.
  • BARRY0619 2012/08/08 23:15:28
    It's Just a Political Stunt
    BARRY0619
    +4
    Reid is trying to take attention away from O'Dumbo's failed "presidency".
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/08/08 22:29:56
    It's Just a Political Stunt
    jackolantyrn356
    +3
    How can Democrat Women let the Perverts like Reid get away with little girls virginity for 30 years and do nothing about it?????
    I really sipose the NOW gang are little stay at hiome house wifes after all.................... They let those women in the Middle East be stoned to death ..... How bad for the NOW to do nothing
  • chgo jackola... 2012/08/09 16:52:44
    chgo
    wtf! are you talking about? you belong in a home.


    and don't self-medicate yourself ever again. it's dangerous.
  • teachaman 2012/08/08 21:58:17
    It's Just a Political Stunt
    teachaman
    +4
    this is a stunt so that stupid people will be distracted from the unalterable fact that Mr. Obama is hiding something rather politically dangerous in his college records - if they even exist, that is ... wanna challenge me on that? ... do what furture President Romney says - put up or shut up!
  • Mr. Won... teachaman 2012/08/09 00:38:47
    Mr. Wonderful
    +2
    The only thing right wingers are good for is to be pissed on.
  • shaltov72 Mr. Won... 2012/08/09 02:41:16
    shaltov72
    +1
    good attitude obumsky!
  • teachaman Mr. Won... 2012/08/09 14:23:36
    teachaman
    you on the other hand would make EXCELLENT catfish bait ... wanna go fishing?
  • john ri... Mr. Won... 2012/08/10 03:13:10
    john richardson
    The only thing libtards are good for is to protect child molesters, murderers, and rapists, not to mention traitors , illegals in America, and al queda prisoners not to forget all America's enemies
  • JAA 2012/08/08 21:33:13 (edited)
    It's Just a Political Stunt
    JAA
    +3
    I think I'll accuse Obama [no PBUH] of being gay, stating I was told this by an "anonymous" source. Who's to say Obama's not running around on Michelle, especially since he's refused to uphold DOMA & has now changed his "official" stance on gay marriage? There's also the few gays who came out about "Barry's" being their one-night stands in 2008. You know, where there's smoke ...
  • Marshal... JAA 2012/08/09 00:48:55
    Marshal Artz
    +2
    Obama could prove you are lying, just as Romney could prove Reid is lying. Thing is, he can't prove it without releasing more tax papers. And he ain't gonna.
  • JAA Marshal... 2012/08/09 03:17:04 (edited)
    JAA
    +1
    It's idiocy & you know it. Giving gossipers & maligners the upper hand is lunacy. If you're accused of something, you have to PROVE that you're innocent. What happened to "innocent until PROVEN guilty", not the other way around? What would you do if you were a kid in school, surrounded by bullies who called you names & accused you of all kinds of nastiness? Would it be the kid's responsibility to find evidence that proves him innocent to all the ludicrous accusations, or do you believe in our criminal system that has been set up since it beginnings that the bullies doing the accusing must be the ones to PROVE their case against the kid?

    Your brain, with all due respect, is operating on empty where this topic is concerned. This indeed proves that liberalism is a mental disorder.
  • Marshal... JAA 2012/08/09 15:13:26
    Marshal Artz
    So Reid says to Romney, you haven't payed any Federal income tax for 10 years, then Romney calls Reid a liar. Does Reid have to prove he is not a liar? Or should Romney prove Reid is a liar?
  • JAA Marshal... 2012/08/09 17:30:26 (edited)
    JAA
    Yes, honey. If we had to keep proving everything any gossip-monger, maligner or miscreant accused us of, we would not be able to work every day to pay not only our own expenses, but also the accuser's welfare check. Is that what you want?

    With your screwed up logic & sense of fairness, how about women be allowed to routinely & arbitrarily begin accusing their ex-husbands of incest with the couples' sons & daughter(s), just because the biotches wish to see the bastards suffer? That would mean innocent men having their children taken from them by the courts, having to PROVE accusations that were blatantly false, & losing their jobs & standing in the community in the process. Is that what you are wanting? Do other peoples' lives mean nothing to you? Is spitting on our freedoms that much a part of your life?

    Do you know what the 10 Commandments are....particularly the one that states, "Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness Against Thy Neighbor?" In our laws (do you know what those are, btw?), one must have at least TWO witnesses to a crime before someone can be found guilty of the crime.

    Seriously, I think you have got to be evil & one of the dumbest persons in existence today if you think that accusing someone of something so heinous is "okay", even if there is no evidence, no proof, & ...
    Yes, honey. If we had to keep proving everything any gossip-monger, maligner or miscreant accused us of, we would not be able to work every day to pay not only our own expenses, but also the accuser's welfare check. Is that what you want?

    With your screwed up logic & sense of fairness, how about women be allowed to routinely & arbitrarily begin accusing their ex-husbands of incest with the couples' sons & daughter(s), just because the biotches wish to see the bastards suffer? That would mean innocent men having their children taken from them by the courts, having to PROVE accusations that were blatantly false, & losing their jobs & standing in the community in the process. Is that what you are wanting? Do other peoples' lives mean nothing to you? Is spitting on our freedoms that much a part of your life?

    Do you know what the 10 Commandments are....particularly the one that states, "Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness Against Thy Neighbor?" In our laws (do you know what those are, btw?), one must have at least TWO witnesses to a crime before someone can be found guilty of the crime.

    Seriously, I think you have got to be evil & one of the dumbest persons in existence today if you think that accusing someone of something so heinous is "okay", even if there is no evidence, no proof, & it is being done by a person who has sworn to being the enemy of the person being accused. Hitler's regime was filled with people like yourself.
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  • Marshal... JAA 2012/08/10 12:44:06
    Marshal Artz
    Romney does not pay a fair tax on what he makes. PERIOD. He pays tax lawyers to screw the treasury. He also hides money off shore. Wise up , dumbness.
  • JAA Marshal... 2012/08/10 22:52:55 (edited)
    JAA
    Hey, are you Romney's tax guy or lawyer? I'm sincerely impressed that you are so 'in the know' of his personal business, especially when Reid, et al., are having to put out queries for anyone who has any dirt on Romney or his potential VP picks to contact them immediately!

    I find that when men must resort to name-calling, particularly toward women, then they've lost all credibility. "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor." Of course, if you have no moral authority, ethics & manners mean nothing to you & I understand why you are the way you are...
  • Marshal... JAA 2012/08/11 13:38:56
    Marshal Artz
    You are right about me. I guess I should have said, " in all due respect", just before an insult, as you do. But this is about Reid and Romney, not me.
  • Bannor ... JAA 2012/08/09 02:59:29
    Bannor Haruchai
    And the same accusations could be made about Romney.
    The man watches dressage; how straight can he possibly be?
  • JAA Bannor ... 2012/08/09 03:21:16 (edited)
    JAA
    +1
    Romney is who we started out discussing in the first place, & that's why I used the accusations about Obama [no PBUH] being gay. Start at the beginning of that discussion, rather than coming in the middle of it & mouthing off.

    I'm surrounded by village idiots on this site. Have you guys been tokin'?

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