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Secretary Hillary Clinton Says Israel Reminds Her of Iran's Treatment of Women: Fair or Foul?

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke at a closed session in Washington DC. Based on Hillary Clinton's history, it should not surprise anyone that Hillary would make these anti-Israel remarks.

Speaking to a closed forum in Washington on Saturday, Clinton criticized recent legislative attempts in Israel to restrict left-wing organizations and expressed shock over growing discrimination against Israeli women. She mentioned cases of IDF soldiers leaving during performances of female singers and the fact that females sit in the back of buses in certain places in Israel. Clinton said that some of these phenomena reminded her of Iran. [Jewish Daily Forward]

Hillary Clinton kiss Suha ArafatSecretary Clinton has a history of sympathy with the PLO, Yasser Arafat and the Palestinians. In February 2007, then a U.S. Senator from New York (D), Hillary gave a symbolic kiss to Suha Arafat, the widow of Yasser Arafat. Hillary also has a 15-year "relationship" with her Deputy Chief of Staff and aide, Huma Abein, who practices Islam.

Earlier in 2011, Secretary Clinton spent nearly an hour chastising Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu for building apartments in Israel's capital of Jerusalem.

President Obama, who appointed Hillary to the Secretary of State position, also has a long antipathy toward Israel. Obama routinely claims Israel as an ally, but Obama's rhetoric doesn't match his open hostility toward the Jewish state. The David Horowitz Freedom Center documents the American-Israeli relationship during Obama in this video:

The Middle East has erupted in chaos during President Obama's administration. Stable countries like Egypt, which showed tolerance to Israel for over 30 years now has great hostility toward America and Israel.

The situation calls for calming not inflammatory rhetoric against Israel, America's greatest ally in the region -- and perhaps the entire world.

I consider Secretary Clinton's remarks as dangerous to the American-Israeli relationship and not an isolated event.
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  • melly~thwarting Satan since... 2011/12/11 18:52:39
    Fair Criticism of Israel
    melly~thwarting Satan since 1971
    +26
    I'm pretty disgusted by the misogyny shown in a lot of posts on this poll. That's how you attempt to rebut what Clinton has to say--by calling her a bitch? You should be looking at how you treat women--sounds a lot like Iran as well.

    And women aren't treated as they should be in Israel. Clinton is right.
    The Jewish community readily admits that the shameful situation of the agunah, a woman chained to an unwanted or non-existent marriage who cannot be released without her husband's consent, is unjust. It is common knowledge that some Jewish husbands withhold their consent to a religious divorce or get, in order to extort exorbitant sums of money from their wives as the "price" for the get. Nonetheless, the Jewish community, despite a high level of educational attainment, financial success, organizational skills and traditional commitment to social justice, has been unable or unwilling to find solutions to the painful problem of the agunah.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  • Ira 2011/12/29 22:40:54
    Fair Criticism of Israel
    Ira
    How is it that Israel deserves only praise and support without criticism? Are you sure this post is about Clinton's remarks or just another poorly cloaked platform to bash Obama? Israel deserves much as a country that has been the object of violent extremism. But it is not without questioning how it operates in respect to abiding by treaties and deals made with respect to settlement building.
  • j2 2011/12/27 23:51:18
    Foul Criticism of Israel
    j2
    Until they start stoning them for adultery, it is a gross exaggeration - not that everything is wonderful in Israel either.
  • ☆stillthe12c☆ 2011/12/21 02:54:20
    Secretary Clinton...
    ☆stillthe12c☆
    Criticizing their Culture, Why not try to understand it. We seem to have no problem with being tolerant of other cultures.
    Our Stand on building in Jerusalem is none of our business. It is their city and we should not be interfering with it and in fact supporting them. Asking them to give up anymore land or peace. We should not be doing this. If Mexico or Canada were sending missiles in to America, what we do in response. I do not think that we would tolerate it at all. I say that our response would not be as restrained as Israels has been.
    Should we give California to Texas back to Mexico. I think not.
  • Michael 2011/12/16 00:39:19
    Secretary Clinton...
    Michael
    Speaking of occupation. Maybe the Arabs should go back to their pre 620 borders and stop occupying Egypt, Iraq, Syria and let the native Chaldeans, Copts, and Assyrians rule those places.
  • JCD aka... Michael 2011/12/21 15:57:28
    JCD aka "biz"
    What about Europeans (aka "Americans") should go back to their pre 1607 borders.

    No. Neither should the Palestinians.
  • Diane 2011/12/14 06:08:12
    Fair Criticism of Israel
    Diane
    +3
    Livni: Clinton's concern for Israeli democracy legitimate

    By JPOST.COM STAFF
    12/04/2011 14:40

    Opposition leader Tzipi Livni on Sunday responded to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's concerns over Israeli democracy, saying that this worry "should serve to wake up all those that are still blind to the murky cloud that is passing over Israel from within."

    Livni added: "Friends and admirers of Israel from within and without are worried about processes that Israel is undergoing. This concern is coming from those who fight for us in the UN and against our detractors, and who act to preserve Israel's military advantage in the area."

    http://www.jpost.com/Headline...
  • JCD aka... Diane 2011/12/14 15:11:33
    JCD aka "biz"
    +2
    US "Christian" Right-Wingers will probably claim that the leader of the Israeli opposition is an "anti-semite".
  • aneed2know 2011/12/13 12:00:45
    Fair Criticism of Israel
    aneed2know
    +3
    If you cannot stand the truth then change what you are doing.
  • JohnFitzgeral12 2011/12/13 04:17:55
    Secretary Clinton...
    JohnFitzgeral12
    Is just like most liberals. They have been taught to blame Israel for all the problems in the ME and to scrutinize Israel (and America) more than other, far more dangerous countries.
  • BlunderWoman ~ FTGOP~ BN 0 2011/12/13 01:16:59
    Fair Criticism of Israel
    BlunderWoman ~ FTGOP~ BN 0
    +3
    If these allegations are true, then it is very disturbing. Why do we rail against these things when our enemies do it, but it's perfectly fine when our allies perpetuate such nonsense?
  • Icanbean Arschloch 2011/12/12 23:59:57
    Secretary Clinton...
    Icanbean  Arschloch
    Follow the money.
  • Billyk75 2011/12/12 23:17:34
    Secretary Clinton...
    Billyk75
    +1
    Is Hitlery going senile or is she just a flaming idiot?
  • Katherine 2011/12/12 22:42:56
    Foul Criticism of Israel
    Katherine
    +1
    Oh, I see what she did, there. Condemn Israel and call them sexist and bigots while simultaneously helping set up the most intolerant, abusive, oppressive regimes. That's so cute. I mean evil. Pretty typical of her.
  • OL69 2011/12/12 22:32:31
    Foul Criticism of Israel
    OL69
    +1
    That woman obviously doesn't know what shes talking about
  • Barfly 2011/12/12 20:49:39
    Fair Criticism of Israel
    Barfly
    +2
    But then again, it is reflective of OSLIME's administration's opinion of Israel, one of the only few moderate countries in the middle east, what morons!! Yes and in the US we have people who walk around with White Capes on their head, and Black Panthers who stand around polling place intimidating voters!!
  • VICTORIA 2011/12/12 04:32:43
    Fair Criticism of Israel
    VICTORIA
    +6
    Ok, let's just presume that the majority of SH posters are on the right side of the spectrum, (because they clearly are- which is why Sodahead will never publicize the non-specific demographics of it's users) and will react to ANYTHING Hillary says with an automatic hatred and rejection- unless she's criticizing Obama of course.

    But I think EVERYONE can agree, that when an Israeli woman and political leader agrees- speaking about her own society and gender- speaks out against the same issue-

    it is pretty hard to dismiss her views.

    Tzipi Livni praised Clinton, calling her speech a wise warning to Israelis about the dangers to their democracy.

    Read more: http://forward.com/articles/1...

    Livni: Clinton's concern for Israeli democracy legitimate
    By JPOST.COM STAFF
    12/04/2011 14:40

    Opposition leader Tzipi Livni on Sunday responded to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's concerns over Israeli democracy, saying that this worry "should serve to wake up all those that are still blind to the murky cloud that is passing over Israel from within."

    New rabbinical courts will lead to oppression of women

    22.11.11

    Battered wives seeking a divorce, women seeking to convert, women who underwent conversions that these courts refused to recognize or retroactively annulled -...




    Ok, let's just presume that the majority of SH posters are on the right side of the spectrum, (because they clearly are- which is why Sodahead will never publicize the non-specific demographics of it's users) and will react to ANYTHING Hillary says with an automatic hatred and rejection- unless she's criticizing Obama of course.

    But I think EVERYONE can agree, that when an Israeli woman and political leader agrees- speaking about her own society and gender- speaks out against the same issue-

    it is pretty hard to dismiss her views.

    Tzipi Livni praised Clinton, calling her speech a wise warning to Israelis about the dangers to their democracy.

    Read more: http://forward.com/articles/1...

    Livni: Clinton's concern for Israeli democracy legitimate
    By JPOST.COM STAFF
    12/04/2011 14:40

    Opposition leader Tzipi Livni on Sunday responded to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's concerns over Israeli democracy, saying that this worry "should serve to wake up all those that are still blind to the murky cloud that is passing over Israel from within."

    New rabbinical courts will lead to oppression of women

    22.11.11

    Battered wives seeking a divorce, women seeking to convert, women who underwent conversions that these courts refused to recognize or retroactively annulled - all are victims of a system that is becoming more and more extreme, forcing them to traverse a vale of tears.

    The rabbinical courts will complete a reactionary turnaround whose essence is the oppression of women.

    As Yair Ettinger reported in Monday's Haaretz, it seems that the vote the Bar is slated to hold Tuesday will, for the first time in 12 years, result in a sweeping majority for the representatives of the Haredi (ultra-Orthodox ) parties, while moderate groups that have worked to further women's rights in the rabbinical courts will be shunted aside. This is a change with devastating implications: It means the reactionary Haredi approach will gain control of the rabbinical courts.
    http://www.haaretz.com/print-...
    (more)
  • findthelight2000 2011/12/12 02:20:04
    Fair Criticism of Israel
    findthelight2000
    +8
    I don't think the people making nasty remarks about Secretary Clinton bothered to read the information on this question. They just wanted to trash Hillary. But in turn they are supporting something much more nasty than their opinion of Secretary Clinton.
  • Prophet 2011/12/12 02:10:44
    Secretary Clinton...
    Prophet
    +3
    Oh bother.
    Hildabeast
  • Fannie Prophet 2011/12/12 04:00:36
  • merlinskiss 2011/12/12 02:04:09
    Fair Criticism of Israel
    merlinskiss
    +3
    Their religion is discriminatory towards women especially the more acidic cults.
  • ««zamboni»»Hellsoldier-BN0 2011/12/12 01:41:57
    Fair Criticism of Israel
    ««zamboni»»Hellsoldier-BN0
    +2
    HELLO!!!? HAREDI AND OTHORDOX JEWS EXIST!!! HELLO!!!? THOSE GROUPS PRACTICE VARIED FORMS OF GENDER-BASED DISCRIMINATION!!!

    I PITTY THE REST OF THE POLULATION!!!
  • VICTORIA ««zambo... 2011/12/12 04:33:33
  • JCD aka... VICTORIA 2011/12/12 15:02:22
    JCD aka "biz"
    +3
    "New Rabbinical courts will lead to oppressiion of women"
  • VICTORIA JCD aka... 2011/12/13 00:15:22
    VICTORIA
    +2
    No one has a monopoly on crazy extremist religious views that seek to oppress, do they?
  • ««zambo... VICTORIA 2011/12/18 05:29:17
    ««zamboni»»Hellsoldier-BN0
    +1
    Rabbinical courts? I oppose this. I oppose any court that isn't a costitutionalist court.
  • VICTORIA ««zambo... 2011/12/18 05:31:54
    VICTORIA
    +1
    It's not really new A- but what IS new is their taking over of the Civil courts.
  • ««zambo... VICTORIA 2011/12/18 06:08:22
    ««zamboni»»Hellsoldier-BN0
    +1
    And yet again, and atack secularism
  • luvguins 2011/12/12 01:33:33
    Fair Criticism of Israel
    luvguins
    +6
    Israel has a group of radical conservative right wingers who mistreat women as much as other mideast countries. Hillary was correct to point that out. To say that the president has an antipathy to israel is a right wing lie. Every other president has spoken about the 1967 border negotiations as part of a peace process, and Obama at the U.N. refused to acknowledge a Palestinian statehood demand which endeared him to Netanyahu. How about Ron Paul who wants to cut off all aid to Israel. I don't see the righties bashing him for antipathy. Hypocrisy again?
  • findthe... luvguins 2011/12/12 02:22:00
    findthelight2000
    +3
    Excellent! Great post again, luvguins.
  • VICTORIA luvguins 2011/12/12 04:34:13
    VICTORIA
    +3
    It's way past outside fringes- they are taking over the courts.
    http://www.haaretz.com/print-...
  • luvguins VICTORIA 2011/12/12 06:26:23
    luvguins
    +3
    Good link, Victoria. Geez, these men in these countries are disgusting.
  • VICTORIA luvguins 2011/12/12 10:35:19
    VICTORIA
    +2
    They're trying to make it the law of the land- Yes, it's really a shame.
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
    This link is my comment right above-

    Even Tzipi Livni (a prominent Israeli female leader) praises Hillary.
  • Rore73 2011/12/12 01:32:11 (edited)
    Secretary Clinton...
    Rore73
    +2
    "Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."
    George Orwell

    Besides that, Hillary SUX!
  • luvguins Rore73 2011/12/12 02:25:03
    luvguins
    +2
    Doubt Hillary cares what you think.
  • Rore73 luvguins 2011/12/12 06:14:08
    Rore73
    +1
    ..and vice versa
  • Dandydon 2011/12/12 00:37:29
    Secretary Clinton...
    Dandydon
  • Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~ 2011/12/12 00:26:21
    Fair Criticism of Israel
    Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~
    +6
    Israel has strayed far to the right and is not only repressive to Palestinians but to women.

    I'm ready for the USA to end its special relationship with Israel. Our funds would be better spent elsewhere.
  • beachbum Ali ~ I... 2011/12/12 18:54:41
    beachbum
    +1
    Curious you think Israel is repressive to Israeli women............who serve in the army, have jobs, can actually walk on the streets without a man giving her permission, etc.
  • Ali ~ I... beachbum 2011/12/12 23:18:32
    Ali ~ In My Heart I Trust ~
    +3
    I'm not comparing it to more repressive societies; rather, to more progressive ones.
  • beachbum Ali ~ I... 2011/12/13 00:01:05
    beachbum
    +1
    I don't see where Israeli women are more repressed than we are here in the states.
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