SCOTUS Upholds Individual Mandate!!!!

They didn't DECIDE that the law WAS Constitutional.. They MADE the Law Constitutional.. The President and the COngress went through GREAT lengths to make the point that Obamacare had NOTHING to DO with Taxes.. What the COurt did today was REDEFINE the definition of "Tax".. Roberts,, in making a point that he was trying to avoid the APPEARANCE of Judicial Activism has ,, in FACT,, DEMOSTARTED Judical Activism to the extreme degree..

No, they recognized that the law was Constitutional based on both the language of the Constitution and precedents going all the way back to George Washington when he signed the Second Militia Act in 1793. The Government's briefs did indeed suggest that the law could be upheld under Congress' taxing power.

And this is the opposite of judicial activism. Judicial activism involves creating "rights" that clearly do not exist in the constitution - like "corporations are people", or completely ignoring sections of the Constitution that do clearly apply - like "a well regulated militia". Here we see very clearly a law that was securely based in the Constitution, supported by ample precedent, and clearly enacted as part of Congress' own responsibility to "promote the general welfare". Striking it down would have been another example of the unbridled activism of this Court. My hunch is that John Roberts is starting to worry about his legacy as the leader of the most corrupt and activist Supreme Court in American history and may belatedly be trying to clean up his act.

AMEN PP, IMHO that is why Roberts acted properly. Did you know that our NYS AG is investigating the "non-profits" that funnel money to partisan campaign ads?

It is constitutional, they did not change a word of it.

ACA upheld, Pres. Obama bit$ch slaps GOP and Tea-$agger$. LMAO

And he WILL be BITCH Slapped right back come November.. THIS is NOT the end of it.. It's JUST the beginning..

Is Roberts a Rhino now? LMAO

The acronym is RINO as in (R)epublican (I)n (N)ame (O)nly and there WAS that EXPRESSED concern when he was nominated.. It BEGINS to look like those concerns have NOW been validated..

ONE thing that is clear though.. ALL of the moaning and groaning claims by the Left that THIS is a Conservative Court can NOW be laid to rest once and for all....

And I believe that Obama might as well drop out of the race RIGHT now.. The American Public has ALWAYS been against Obamacare.. Granted the numbers,, once as high as 85% at the time Congress passed it,, has dropped to somewhere around 60% recently because of all the people who Obama put out of work but NOW that it turns out to even MORE of something that Obama SWORE that it was not,, a TAX,, it will ONLY serve to ENERGIZE the people who want to SEE it REPEALED..

Wrong. The majority of republicans are for the provisions in the law. You do realize that the whole idea of an individual mandate came from the Heritage Foundation, don't you?

And in fact, most of the Republicans who oppose this law oppose it solely because President Obama got it done. They actually support most of the provisions in the law when they are asked about it without reference to President Obama.

–Reuters/Ipsos found that 80 percent of self-identified Republicans support the idea of healthcare exchanges — pooling health insurance and distributing it among recipients to get lower group rates.

–Around 52 percent of Republicans like the idea of forcing corporations to offer health insurance plans to employees.

–The same percentage of Republicans support allowing young people to stay on their parents’ insurance until age 26.

–Nearly 60 percent of Republicans support that idea of government subsidies to help middle and working class families pay for health insurance.

–The pre-existing conditions language in the law? A massive 78 percent of registered we-hate-Obamacare Republicans support that part of the law.

In other words, Republicans — more so than the rest of the population — hate the law, but love everything in the law.

By the way, independent swing voters? They support the above provisions by nearly unanimous margins — in the 70 and 80 percentile range.

that always seems to shut them up...

you can almost hear the gears griding to a halt.

I stole that from Proud...hehe.

TAx TAX TAX the Middle Class

Keep dreaming. This will be a ticket to the president's re-election. Independents don't like whiners who will waste more time in the House with another repeal vote instead of jobs.

Me too!

me to

TAX TAX TAX the Middle Class.

not if they have insurance, this will only apply to those who do not have it.

So, I guess what really happened hasn't sunk in yet?

Give it a few days and it will. This just re-opened the discussion that 0bozo and Dem's who voted for this, wanted to go away. Now we're back to talking about what is actually in the bill and exposing the largest tax increase on ALL Americans in history.

yeah only if you dont have insurance, dont want to pay the Tax get insurance. Simple problem solved.

And what do you say to the millions who were in a great group plan they liked but lost it when their employer decided to pay the fine instead? Now they don't get the discounts associated with a group plan and are forced to pay another fine themselves or get 0bozoed.

"If you like your doctor.... you can keep them.... if you like your insurance .... you can keep it."

LIE ... LIE .... LIE .... The people no longer have control over those choices, which is the purpose of 0bozoTax. Force everyone into the goobermint run, socialist death-care system.

so because a bunch of greedy business gets to hold the entire country hostage is that it? I guess that is okay with you because you are a republican and taking hostages and holding your breath is what you guys do best, oh and whine when others through insults back at ya.

And yes if you like your insurance you can keep it and if you like your doctor you can keep him/her, nothing in this Bill says you cant?

Have you even read the Bill? You honestly sound as if you have not, i tell you what i will do.

In August i will be in Europe for a friends wedding, it is no problem for me to come over to Germany with a copy of it so you can read it (if you have not), and then you can point out those death panels, chip implant provisions and the part you are talking about, okay?

Just email me and let me know what Pub, or Cafe you want to meet at?

Again i see no sense in continuing to talk to you, you believe what was spoon fed to you and have chosen not to know the truth, so there for wallow in your ignorance while the rest of us try to make what was upheld better.

Better yet why dont you go a try to find the solutions to the p[problems you raised in any republican plan, i bet you found it.

Good bye.

I'm taking bets. How many Jim Beam shots do you think Boehner is throwing down now?

idk....how many does he do on any other day? lol

LOLZ!

Merlot is his drink. He'd have had one bottle for celebration, but now he'll have three to drown his miseries.

Talk about a whiny ass; I've heard Boehner cries when he gets in the tanning booth.

hahaha really? Poor lil fella!

Have you ever seen such a whiny ass Speaker of the House in your life?

Just once.

Never. But he is entertaining at times isn't he? lol

Yes, he is entertaining.

I think its a symptom of drinking too much. His tendency to cry seems to correlate with his skin color, which I suspect is from the pigments in the merlot.



For awhile as Speaker, his skin color got more normal, and he cried less. Under the stress of his current situation, he's probably drinking more. I think he needs help.

After today, I'm sure he'll be in a drunken stupor.

He definitely needs helps; he needs someone to show him to the door.

Can't we get him some hormones or something to get him to MAN UP? LOL

I think it's too late for him. lol