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SCOTUS Ruled Obamacare Raised Everyone's Taxes: Will Decision Hurt Obama 2012 Re-Election?

Fef 2012/06/28 14:27:41
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The Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) just ruled that the "Individual Mandate" clause of the Affordable Care Act (aka "Obamacare") raise taxes on everyone. The SCOTUS ruled the Individual Mandate Unconstitutional in relation to the Constitution's Commerce Clause -- but ruled it Constitutional as a tax increase.

President Obama promised he would not raised taxes on the working class, the middle class or the poor. Obama's 2012 re-election campaign may have suffered its greatest setback because now Obama has to answer this contradiction to the public, media and Moderates.

Chief Justice John Roberts, a Conservative appointed by President George W. Bush, decided the swing vote and wrote the court's opinion. Roberts joined the Liberal justices in the decision. President Obama may again blame George W. Bush...
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  • Fef 2012/06/28 14:34:41
    SCOTUS Hurts Obama 2012
    Fef
    +20
    Democrats will regret the day... SCOTUS decision will renew Tea Party and upset Moderates. Call it Death Panel for Obama 2012
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  • Bob DiN (▪‿▪)Do... 2012/06/29 00:52:41
    Bob DiN
    You think Obamacare is so Great? Wait until you have to pay for it, or try to use it.
  • Fallout 2012/06/28 14:36:04
    SCOTUS Ruling Does Not Affect Obama 2012
    Fallout
    +3
    Obama gets a little boost in the polls and then he returns to a super tight race
    to the White House.
  • J.W. Howler 2012/06/28 14:35:58 (edited)
    SCOTUS Hurts Obama 2012
    J.W. Howler
    +7
    But, even though it objectively makes Obama out a LIAR, he made himself out to be a liar a looooong time ago.

    So, I don't know how much it will hurt him.

    Probably will hurt the people much more than it will hurt him.

    I am very discouraged at this point.

    I honestly hope, and I pray, that I do not even live to be 65 years old..I am now 57.
  • D D J.W. Ho... 2012/06/28 15:12:44
    D D
    +2
    I am 45 and I don't expect to live past 50.
  • gldynmd J.W. Ho... 2012/06/28 16:10:50
    gldynmd
    +1
    REPEAL and REPLACE 0BAMACARE!
  • Cyan9 2012/06/28 14:35:53 (edited)
    SCOTUS Ruling Helps Obama 2012
    Cyan9
    +4
    Here comes the right wing spin masters at work. The triumvirate of Frank Luntz, Andrew Breitbart and Rupert Murdoch have issued their marching orders!
  • Fef Cyan9 2012/06/28 14:45:18
    Fef
    +7
    Andrew Breitbart died (RIP)
    Rupert (not Rudolph) Murdoch supported Hillary Clinton, who wanted to pass HillaryCare (similar to ObamaCare)
    Frank Luntz wishes he had as much influence
  • FeelHoo... Fef 2012/06/28 15:02:32
    FeelHood H. Obama~BN28
    1. ...but, apparently his army lives on.

    2. Has other things to worry about. However, Roger Ailes is on it, sending propaganda memos to his minions.

    3. Frank Luntz is actively getting his misinformation propaganda in order.
  • Cyan9 Fef 2012/06/28 15:32:50
    Cyan9
    Thanks, corrected Murdoch's name. The point of my post was that there are some things in politics that are unambiguous defeats for one party. Today is one of those times. I found it disingenuous when Democrats tried to claim partial victory in Wisconsin and I find it just as disingenuous now Republicans are trying to claim victory in fact of the Supreme Court decisions this week.
  • Fef 2012/06/28 14:34:41
    SCOTUS Hurts Obama 2012
    Fef
    +20
    Democrats will regret the day... SCOTUS decision will renew Tea Party and upset Moderates. Call it Death Panel for Obama 2012
    obamacare protest
    obamacare protest
  • Tasine Fef 2012/06/28 15:18:45
    Tasine
    +6
    I hope they have the FEMA camps ready - I have a feeling they're going to be using them pretty soon.
  • Lady Wh... Tasine 2012/06/28 16:42:34
    Lady Whitewolf
    There ARE NOT any "fema camps"!
  • Tasine Lady Wh... 2012/06/28 16:49:47
    Tasine
    +2
    Interesting take. Your source of information is ?
  • Tasine Lady Wh... 2012/06/28 16:53:16 (edited)
    Tasine
    +2
    Try this on for size: http://www.bibliotecapleyades...

    Says there are 4 in your state
  • banzaib... Fef 2012/06/28 17:39:02
    banzaibuckaroo
    I"m a Moderate, and believe the 780 billion dollar deficient between receipts and money being paid out on Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid needs to be fixed. That deficient is larger than our Military budget, and I'm beyond sick of seeing FREELOADERS killing our hospitals budget in my state. Something had to get done, and I haven't seen anything from the Republican Party for years in trying to fix this massive problem. By the way, what is Romney's personal responsibility answer for fixing the health system? it's Obamacare....not much difference at all.
  • ScottyG... Fef 2012/06/28 18:30:27
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +1
    Justice Roberts just did the Republicans a huge favor. He insured a win in November. Now we will have the POTUS, House and Senate.

    You see, the TAX mandate is not collectable or enforceable and the single biggest, least wanted tax to ever be created. 70% of Americans DON'T want the mandate and as a tax they will HATE IT.

    The States don't have to comply with expansion. SO they will get their funding even when they refuse to expand medicare and medicade. There goes the ability to make States comply and kills the funding issue.

    Thanks Justice Roberts, you just became my new hero.

    This makes Romney a shoe in for POTUS AND insures repeal of Obiecare.

    See, they give us lemons and I make you the sweetest lemonade.
  • SW ScottyG... 2012/06/28 19:05:55
    SW
    +1
    None of that is true. For one thing Romney INVENTED the mandate. It was his baby. Without it no kind of reform will work. He was for it, sponsored the provision before he was against it. 70% of Americans dont hate it...they wont even be affected by it. Now we wont be paying as much for freeloaders using the er as their.primary care. these lemons are sweet already.
  • ScottyG... SW 2012/06/28 19:09:05
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +2
    Boy are you wrong. He made it a TAX. Voters HATE that word. And especially after Obie said it would never be a TAX.

    It's the damn best lemonade ever.
  • SW ScottyG... 2012/06/28 19:19:54
    SW
    And if it failed you'd be saying it's a crushing blow for the Obama admin and celebrating our new found non coverage and going back to paying for freeloaders using the ER for their primary care. You're gonna hate Obama no matter what happens --what he says or does. He could use the same plan Romney used and you'd still.. wait a minute...
  • ScottyG... SW 2012/06/28 19:25:27
    ScottyG - Faqueue
    +1
    So, you never read the tea leaves and saw this as a loser from the get go?

    You see, all conservatives did. Sorry. We are just that smart.
  • SW Fef 2012/06/28 19:16:56
  • ehrhornp Fef 2012/06/29 00:50:48
    ehrhornp
    The tea baggers are little more than sheep. Why they want to transfer their wealth to the rich is beyond me. Don't you have enough wealth without being further subsidized by the middle class as Mitt wants to do?

    I think phony conservatives will regret the day they decided to just say no to everything Obama wanted. Shows them for the worthless hypocrites they are.
  • schjaz 2012/06/28 14:32:44
    SCOTUS Hurts Obama 2012
    schjaz
    +4
    Can't wait to get all the gory details on this. But if this is true, I am glad. Let everyone know what a bee esser this administration really is.
  • Kane Fernau 2012/06/28 14:32:31
    SCOTUS Hurts Obama 2012
    Kane Fernau
    +14
    The democrat's answer to every problem is raise taxes.
  • Artist 2012/06/28 14:32:30
    SCOTUS Hurts Obama 2012
    Artist
    +10
    To be honest I don't know. Right now obama is slapping high-fives all around but Romney sure got some powerful ammo for his campaign. "Whatever happened to no new taxes, obama?"
    If the middle and upper class weren't paying enough already in taxes which the rest of the 47% don't pay a dime, obama at the very least with the mandate in place just destroyed what is left of the middle class.
  • Kimmel 2012/06/28 14:32:21
    SCOTUS Hurts Obama 2012
    Kimmel
    +15
    At least they called it what it is. A tax!
  • Bob DiN Kimmel 2012/06/29 00:54:40
    Bob DiN
    +1
    A mandated tax.
  • CHUCK - Liberal in Seattle 2012/06/28 14:32:15
    SCOTUS Ruling Helps Obama 2012
    CHUCK - Liberal in Seattle
    +7
    Victory for the American people! Obama wins! And Obama will win in 2012! obama 2012
  • Artist CHUCK -... 2012/06/28 14:33:23
  • topcat128 Artist 2012/06/28 15:28:51
    topcat128
    +2
    Michael Savage was right when he said he thought Chief Justice John Roberts was going to vote in favor of the law. Dr. Savage is right on most things. www.michaelsavage.com.
  • schjaz CHUCK -... 2012/06/28 14:33:28
    schjaz
    How did he win?
  • CHUCK -... schjaz 2012/06/28 14:35:47
    CHUCK - Liberal in Seattle
    +3
    More people will be covered! Even you!
  • Arel CHUCK -... 2012/06/28 14:39:34
    Arel
    +3
    at whos expense?
  • CHUCK -... Arel 2012/06/28 17:25:23
    CHUCK - Liberal in Seattle
    +1
    Everybody can have insurance!
  • schjaz CHUCK -... 2012/06/28 19:49:05
    schjaz
    +2
    Thats not how it works. You have to have insurance now. If you do not fall within the guidelines for government to help you with your medicals, then you will have get yurself insurance and if you don't, you will be fined. If you do fall within the guidelines for government to pay for it, then you are allowed what THEY SAY YOU ARE ALLOWED. They may decide you don't need a certain blood test or you can do without that tooth, or you can choose from these 2 glasses frames, etc. That's what they do now and it will get worse....just watch.
  • CHUCK -... schjaz 2012/06/28 21:53:29
    CHUCK - Liberal in Seattle
    That's conservative propaganda, in other ways it's bs.

    If you have insurance, your employer prevides it, it doesn't affect you. If you aren't working, or can't afford insurance, the gov. will help. If you can afford insurance and chose to not buy any, you pay a tax, your choice. The government isn't going to tell yopur doctor what kind of treatment you can have, just like there are no "Death Panels".

    And by the way, I thought Conservatives loved and lived by the constitution. Well A conservative Supreme Court says this law is constitutional.

    Is the constitution ONLY GOOD when it suits you?
  • schjaz CHUCK -... 2012/06/29 16:44:45
    schjaz
    sure it is....conservative propoganda...read the bill.

    THEY decide if they think you can afford insurance or not. You have to lay your entire life out to the government and let them decide how you will pay your bills and what you can and cannot afford. really? that's making nazi germany look pretty good.
    This was a power grab and states like FL, TX, and LA will not abide it.
    You need to stay where you are because WA is one of the states that knows how to lay down.

    This was not decided by the constitution. Roberts decided it was a TAX and the government has a right to tax. Kagan should have recused herself because she had a hand in writing the law itself..unconstitutional much?..THAT is a fair Justice? NOT!
    Meanwhile, OBAMA SAID IT WOULD NOT BE A TAX. BUT IT IS AND ITS FINE WITH YOU THAT HE LIED IN YOUR FACE.
  • Arel CHUCK -... 2012/06/28 21:26:10
    Arel
    +1
    Like I said at whos expense....
    Obamacare is full of taxes not just the mandate tax. Our POTUS flat out lied to all Americans when he said the mandate was not a tax. Those who can't afford insurance are going to be taxed and those who choose not to purchase insurance will be taxed along with all the rest of us who are already paying for the health care of the uninsured. This will be the ruin of health care in America and the middle and lower classes.
  • CHUCK -... Arel 2012/06/28 21:59:55
    CHUCK - Liberal in Seattle
    Obama said it applied to commerce, ROBERTS said commerce didn't apply, but is was legal as a tax, congress can tax you. Justice Roberts saved Obama! You lied!
  • schjaz CHUCK -... 2012/06/29 16:46:59
    schjaz
    +1
    Yep, Roberts saved the individual mandate that I am pulling the cart for....I am sure you are sitting in it. Meanwhile, my husband is fighting cancer and this bill taxes my medical coverage so our premiums and out of pocket go up again. You just don't get it.

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