The Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS) just ruled that the "Individual Mandate" clause of the Affordable Care Act (aka "Obamacare") raise taxes on everyone. The SCOTUS ruled the Individual Mandate Unconstitutional in relation to the Constitution's Commerce Clause -- but ruled it Constitutional as a tax increase.
President Obama promised he would not raised taxes on the working class, the middle class or the poor. Obama's 2012 re-election campaign may have suffered its greatest setback because now Obama has to answer this contradiction to the public, media and Moderates.
Chief Justice John Roberts, a Conservative appointed by President George W. Bush, decided the swing vote and wrote the court's opinion. Roberts joined the Liberal justices in the decision. President Obama may again blame George W. Bush...
Andrew Breitbart died (RIP) Rupert (not Rudolph) Murdoch supported Hillary Clinton, who wanted to pass HillaryCare (similar to ObamaCare) Frank Luntz wishes he had as much influence
Thanks, corrected Murdoch's name. The point of my post was that there are some things in politics that are unambiguous defeats for one party. Today is one of those times. I found it disingenuous when Democrats tried to claim partial victory in Wisconsin and I find it just as disingenuous now Republicans are trying to claim victory in fact of the Supreme Court decisions this week.
I"m a Moderate, and believe the 780 billion dollar deficient between receipts and money being paid out on Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid needs to be fixed. That deficient is larger than our Military budget, and I'm beyond sick of seeing FREELOADERS killing our hospitals budget in my state. Something had to get done, and I haven't seen anything from the Republican Party for years in trying to fix this massive problem. By the way, what is Romney's personal responsibility answer for fixing the health system? it's Obamacare....not much difference at all.
Justice Roberts just did the Republicans a huge favor. He insured a win in November. Now we will have the POTUS, House and Senate.
You see, the TAX mandate is not collectable or enforceable and the single biggest, least wanted tax to ever be created. 70% of Americans DON'T want the mandate and as a tax they will HATE IT.
The States don't have to comply with expansion. SO they will get their funding even when they refuse to expand medicare and medicade. There goes the ability to make States comply and kills the funding issue.
Thanks Justice Roberts, you just became my new hero.
This makes Romney a shoe in for POTUS AND insures repeal of Obiecare.
See, they give us lemons and I make you the sweetest lemonade.
None of that is true. For one thing Romney INVENTED the mandate. It was his baby. Without it no kind of reform will work. He was for it, sponsored the provision before he was against it. 70% of Americans dont hate it...they wont even be affected by it. Now we wont be paying as much for freeloaders using the er as their.primary care. these lemons are sweet already.
And if it failed you'd be saying it's a crushing blow for the Obama admin and celebrating our new found non coverage and going back to paying for freeloaders using the ER for their primary care. You're gonna hate Obama no matter what happens --what he says or does. He could use the same plan Romney used and you'd still.. wait a minute...
The tea baggers are little more than sheep. Why they want to transfer their wealth to the rich is beyond me. Don't you have enough wealth without being further subsidized by the middle class as Mitt wants to do?
I think phony conservatives will regret the day they decided to just say no to everything Obama wanted. Shows them for the worthless hypocrites they are.
To be honest I don't know. Right now obama is slapping high-fives all around but Romney sure got some powerful ammo for his campaign. "Whatever happened to no new taxes, obama?"
If the middle and upper class weren't paying enough already in taxes which the rest of the 47% don't pay a dime, obama at the very least with the mandate in place just destroyed what is left of the middle class.
Michael Savage was right when he said he thought Chief Justice John Roberts was going to vote in favor of the law. Dr. Savage is right on most things. www.michaelsavage.com.
Thats not how it works. You have to have insurance now. If you do not fall within the guidelines for government to help you with your medicals, then you will have get yurself insurance and if you don't, you will be fined. If you do fall within the guidelines for government to pay for it, then you are allowed what THEY SAY YOU ARE ALLOWED. They may decide you don't need a certain blood test or you can do without that tooth, or you can choose from these 2 glasses frames, etc. That's what they do now and it will get worse....just watch.
That's conservative propaganda, in other ways it's bs.
If you have insurance, your employer prevides it, it doesn't affect you. If you aren't working, or can't afford insurance, the gov. will help. If you can afford insurance and chose to not buy any, you pay a tax, your choice. The government isn't going to tell yopur doctor what kind of treatment you can have, just like there are no "Death Panels".
And by the way, I thought Conservatives loved and lived by the constitution. Well A conservative Supreme Court says this law is constitutional.
sure it is....conservative propoganda...read the bill.
THEY decide if they think you can afford insurance or not. You have to lay your entire life out to the government and let them decide how you will pay your bills and what you can and cannot afford. really? that's making nazi germany look pretty good.
This was a power grab and states like FL, TX, and LA will not abide it.
You need to stay where you are because WA is one of the states that knows how to lay down.
This was not decided by the constitution. Roberts decided it was a TAX and the government has a right to tax. Kagan should have recused herself because she had a hand in writing the law itself..unconstitutional much?..THAT is a fair Justice? NOT!
Meanwhile, OBAMA SAID IT WOULD NOT BE A TAX. BUT IT IS AND ITS FINE WITH YOU THAT HE LIED IN YOUR FACE.
Like I said at whos expense.... Obamacare is full of taxes not just the mandate tax. Our POTUS flat out lied to all Americans when he said the mandate was not a tax. Those who can't afford insurance are going to be taxed and those who choose not to purchase insurance will be taxed along with all the rest of us who are already paying for the health care of the uninsured. This will be the ruin of health care in America and the middle and lower classes.
Obama said it applied to commerce, ROBERTS said commerce didn't apply, but is was legal as a tax, congress can tax you. Justice Roberts saved Obama! You lied!
Yep, Roberts saved the individual mandate that I am pulling the cart for....I am sure you are sitting in it. Meanwhile, my husband is fighting cancer and this bill taxes my medical coverage so our premiums and out of pocket go up again. You just don't get it.
to the White House.
So, I don't know how much it will hurt him.
Probably will hurt the people much more than it will hurt him.
I am very discouraged at this point.
I honestly hope, and I pray, that I do not even live to be 65 years old..I am now 57.
Rupert (not Rudolph) Murdoch supported Hillary Clinton, who wanted to pass HillaryCare (similar to ObamaCare)
Frank Luntz wishes he had as much influence
2. Has other things to worry about. However, Roger Ailes is on it, sending propaganda memos to his minions.
3. Frank Luntz is actively getting his misinformation propaganda in order.
Says there are 4 in your state
You see, the TAX mandate is not collectable or enforceable and the single biggest, least wanted tax to ever be created. 70% of Americans DON'T want the mandate and as a tax they will HATE IT.
The States don't have to comply with expansion. SO they will get their funding even when they refuse to expand medicare and medicade. There goes the ability to make States comply and kills the funding issue.
Thanks Justice Roberts, you just became my new hero.
This makes Romney a shoe in for POTUS AND insures repeal of Obiecare.
See, they give us lemons and I make you the sweetest lemonade.
It's the damn best lemonade ever.
You see, all conservatives did. Sorry. We are just that smart.
I think phony conservatives will regret the day they decided to just say no to everything Obama wanted. Shows them for the worthless hypocrites they are.
If the middle and upper class weren't paying enough already in taxes which the rest of the 47% don't pay a dime, obama at the very least with the mandate in place just destroyed what is left of the middle class.
If you have insurance, your employer prevides it, it doesn't affect you. If you aren't working, or can't afford insurance, the gov. will help. If you can afford insurance and chose to not buy any, you pay a tax, your choice. The government isn't going to tell yopur doctor what kind of treatment you can have, just like there are no "Death Panels".
And by the way, I thought Conservatives loved and lived by the constitution. Well A conservative Supreme Court says this law is constitutional.
Is the constitution ONLY GOOD when it suits you?
THEY decide if they think you can afford insurance or not. You have to lay your entire life out to the government and let them decide how you will pay your bills and what you can and cannot afford. really? that's making nazi germany look pretty good.
This was a power grab and states like FL, TX, and LA will not abide it.
You need to stay where you are because WA is one of the states that knows how to lay down.
This was not decided by the constitution. Roberts decided it was a TAX and the government has a right to tax. Kagan should have recused herself because she had a hand in writing the law itself..unconstitutional much?..THAT is a fair Justice? NOT!
Meanwhile, OBAMA SAID IT WOULD NOT BE A TAX. BUT IT IS AND ITS FINE WITH YOU THAT HE LIED IN YOUR FACE.
Obamacare is full of taxes not just the mandate tax. Our POTUS flat out lied to all Americans when he said the mandate was not a tax. Those who can't afford insurance are going to be taxed and those who choose not to purchase insurance will be taxed along with all the rest of us who are already paying for the health care of the uninsured. This will be the ruin of health care in America and the middle and lower classes.