School Uses Shock Therapy on Autistic Students: Constructive or Cruel?
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2012/05/23 13:00:00
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The Judge Rotenberg Center, a special needs school in Massachusetts, is facing major controversy this week as information about the school's shock therapy program come to light. According to CNN, a student was treated for post traumatic stress disorder after receiving 31 electric shocks in a seven hour period. Officials were apparently trying to hide video footage of the shocking treatment, but was recently required to reveal it.
Other parents say the school is saving lives. One mother claims the shock treatment helped her son immensely, and calls the school a "godsend." Critics aren't so sure. Some call it torture. A group of opponents are even organizing a protest called Occupy JRC, to be held on June 2. It will include a wide range of speakers, from parents to disability advocates. But do you think shock therapy could be constructive?
Other parents say the school is saving lives. One mother claims the shock treatment helped her son immensely, and calls the school a "godsend." Critics aren't so sure. Some call it torture. A group of opponents are even organizing a protest called Occupy JRC, to be held on June 2. It will include a wide range of speakers, from parents to disability advocates. But do you think shock therapy could be constructive?























Modified ECT (applied under anaesthetic in a clinically controlled environment) is controversial enough; there being no accepted scientific explanation as to how it produces the beneficial effects that some people report.
However, the Rotenberg Centre is not using modified ECT or anything like it. It is using the pain and fear inflicted by applying electric shocks to the skin in order to cow troubled young people into submitting to the school's authority. It is not a constructive therapeutic environment which ties a child to a board and shocks them over thirty times. It is a cruel and abusive regime which has placed its own needs above those of the people it is meant to serve.
Dr R. Hickman (Lecturer Mental Health Nursing)
So you'd rather remain ill? I personally, would prefer to be made well.
Genuine "good" acts cannot c...&
Genuine "good" acts cannot come from acts of evil, even if the outward intent appears as good, because "a good tree does not produce bad fruit. And a bad tree does not produce good fruit... What people say with their mouths comes from what is in their hearts." Luke 7:43&45b. Those aren't my words, but I have learned the truth of it: God wants everyone to be saved, and he wants us to be rich in the fullness of His love.
"who is really ill here? The patient or the so-called "care-giver"?"
In this case, it appears that the "care givers" have the greater problem. I noticed watching the video again is that the lawers for the clinicians are calling it aversive therapy. Which would mean they are not using ECT for the theraputic effects but as conditioning. Which I do completely disagree with unless the patient is willing.
"I have worked with autistic people in the past"
I don't believe ECT is recommended as a therapy for autism. Though it can be very helpful for things like depression and schizophrenia. However, I don't think it should be given to anyone against their will and only in very severe cases without their specific permission.
"a good tree does not produce bad fruit. And a bad tree does not produce good fruit."
I find this overly simplistic. ECC can seem quite harsh and certainly it was (and in this case continues to be) misused. However, if one is suffering shouldn't the option be available to them?
This man tells the story of how ECT saved his life:
[I will comment on the video after viewing it.]
Better is subjective, the question is, what works?
There are many different approaches, some work for some people others don't. What I am saying is that making broad generalizations about any of them misses the mark. You can't just say that A is good and B is bad, because A doesn't work for everyone. ECT does have an appropriate and humane use even if it's not the right course for everyone.
The deeper issue than "what works" is a spiritual one... but one you don't seem to want to hear, Yet a message, Christian desciples were given to teach... It is not me who wrote that "Jesus said, I am the way the way, the truth, and the life." His message was a message of love. If you can use shock-therapy in a loving way, and know without any doubt whatsoever that it will be more effective than patient {longsuffering}, long-term, loving and sacrificial care, then may the Lord of Heaven bless you; but if you cannot, then why use it? I still cannot understand how anyone can justify a method of supposed "care" that has a known major side-effect of memory-loss. Also, I have given an example of alternative treatment that works. Although very basic, my example showed three methods that "worked" to teach the same principle. But which one is morally sound? Patient, long-term, loving, care, is becoming increasingly more and more rare these days...
This is because I already understand and I don't need a refresher course. I find it presumptuous and more than a little arrogant that you presume to instruct me.
"If you can use shock-therapy in a loving way, and know without any doubt whatsoever that it will be more effective"
Without any doubt whatsoever, is quite an extraordinary statement, particularly when predicting the future. Anyone claiming this level of knowledge is delusional
"than patient {longsuffering}, long-term, loving and sacrificial care"
Patient and loving I agree with, the rest is vanity. Patience is not suffering and love isn't sacrifice.
"I still cannot understand how anyone can justify a method of supposed "care" that has a known major side-effect of memory-loss."
It's rather simple actually. When the symptom is worse than the side effect. When drugs and therapy don't work some short term memory loss becomes trivial. There are also side effects to medication, particularly long term.
"Also, I have given an example of alternative treatment that works."
Not in every case, no. I'm glad they worked for you, but if you take the time to watch the video I posted you might come to realize that everyone does not respond the same to treatment.
Absolutely!
Hear! Hear!
The best point made thus far!
People do a lot more harmful/ ridiculous treatments looking for a cure,
and this actually has scientific research proving it sometimes works.
As long as the Know and give consent.
Death by Electrocution is considered a cruel and unusual punishment for murderers. But hey, let's do the same thing to a kid without the death part and everything's fine????
However, the question asked was if shock therapy can be constructive and the answer to that is yes. Shock therapy is often seen as medieval and in the past it was often used cruelly. Today, however, it can be beneficial for people with severe depression that doesn't respond to anti-depressants,.
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