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School Uses Shock Therapy on Autistic Students: Constructive or Cruel?

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The Judge Rotenberg Center, a special needs school in Massachusetts, is facing major controversy this week as information about the school's shock therapy program come to light. According to CNN, a student was treated for post traumatic stress disorder after receiving 31 electric shocks in a seven hour period. Officials were apparently trying to hide video footage of the shocking treatment, but was recently required to reveal it.

Other parents say the school is saving lives. One mother claims the shock treatment helped her son immensely, and calls the school a "godsend." Critics aren't so sure. Some call it torture. A group of opponents are even organizing a protest called Occupy JRC, to be held on June 2. It will include a wide range of speakers, from parents to disability advocates. But do you think shock therapy could be constructive?


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  • Rave 2012/05/23 14:05:40
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    Rave
    +11
    Shock therapy has been known to CAUSE post-traumatic stress disorder in some patients. I feel it is outdated and we have better treatments available these days.

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  • Ryoka∞Boy 2012/05/23 21:07:47
    Cruel
    Ryoka∞Boy
    +3
    Next thing we know they will perfoming lobotomy of those little kids,where is this world heading..
  • POWERSHAKER 2012/05/23 21:05:44
    Cruel
    POWERSHAKER
    +1
    If you ask me, it's cruel. I can't believe they would do that!
  • BoJay 2012/05/23 21:03:46
    Cruel
    BoJay
    +2
    Shock therapy should only be given to child molesters.
    electric poker
  • Mark P. 2012/05/23 21:00:11
    Cruel
    Mark P.
    +3
    You have to be one sick sob to think that is okay.
  • PaulBot415 2012/05/23 20:57:52
    Cruel
    PaulBot415
    +2
    Shock therapy is cruel no matter what.
  • TasselLady 2012/05/23 20:52:12
    Cruel
    TasselLady
    I hope the school gets sued.
  • Libertarian Right 2012/05/23 20:46:41
    Cruel
    Libertarian Right
    +2
    WTF??? How can this possibly be legal? Oh wait, this school is in Massachusetts, my bad!
  • Richard 2012/05/23 20:40:25
    Cruel
    Richard
    +1
    They all need to be put jail...
  • 13_JunkyardDog 2012/05/23 20:39:33
    Cruel
    13_JunkyardDog
    I wouldn't want my brother to go through this
  • kraftymomma1979 2012/05/23 20:37:14
    Cruel
    kraftymomma1979
    +1
    My son is autistic, and I would never subject him to this. There is a Joseph Mengele in every generation in every society, I suppose.
  • Cal 2012/05/23 20:33:26
    Cruel
    Cal
    +2
    Shock Therapy is wide spread psychiatric treatment of the early and mid 1900's. It doesn't work that's why medical professionals abandoned it. This school is more or less practicing medieval medicine.
  • Adam Cal 2012/05/24 11:26:06
    Adam
    You should recheck your info.
  • Cal Adam 2012/05/24 20:13:04
    Cal
    Yeah...whats your point? I did, and it said the same thing I already knew. Unless you saw something I didn't. ECT was invented in 1938, used widespread in the 1950's and 1960's, and then discontinued in the US due to adverse side effects noted. It's still apparently practiced in the UK....but that doesn't mean much to what I said. What did you see?
  • Adam Cal 2012/05/25 11:33:01
    Adam
    It is still performed, and is considered generally safe.
  • DIXIEGIRL 2012/05/23 20:17:29
    Cruel
    DIXIEGIRL
    +1
    No special needs children or adults should not be subject to this kind of cruelty. I work with special needs students in a high school setting and would be apalled to see this done to anyone of them. They have a condition and whatever their diagnosis is whether it's autism, down syndrome, learning disabilities, etc shouldn't let them be even in a room where adults are doing this to them. This makes the supposed smart capable adults that are supposed to be intelligent really dumb and stupid and it makes them seem that they don't care what kind of abuse that they are afflicting on these kinds of people. We have advanced in learning more about how to handle and take care of these kids but the adults doing this seem barbaric and uncaring. What if it was your child getting this treatment? How can you have the gall to even consider having this done to your child? They should be locked up because this isn't the answer. It's cruel and unusual punishment. They are not criminals and shouldn't be treated as such. It hurt my heart to the soul to even watch the video of what they were doing to the innocent. This place should be shut down and the people administrating this kind of pain should be put in the kids position, tied down, and go through what they are putting the kids through. I believe you could change their minds about their so-called treatment. You people make me sick!
  • Jayfeather 2012/05/23 20:17:29 (edited)
    Cruel
    Jayfeather
    +2
    Under what circumstances would electrocution fix a genetic disorder? Being autistic, i can tell you that medicines and special treatment don't really help. The most effective therapy is being guided under normal circumstances, by someone who treats you like a normal person (and means it). It is nigh impossible to deceive an autistic child

    Autistic children are very intuitive, and have a good sense of what goes on beneath the surface. Most autistic children can tell from a mile off what a person's true intentions are. It's just that with most types of autism, the patient is unable to convey their thoughts and emotions properly. The best way to deal with a patient is to genuinely and truly be their friend. You need to treat them as an equal, AND MEAN it.

    It's crucial that you're genuine, and if you are being false, you will only hurt the patient. We know. We always know. Sometimes we give the benefit of the doubt, but in truth we know what's going on all along. You may think you fooled us. You may think that you can get away with veiled patronisation and hidden criticism, but you're really not.

    The other characteristic that we all have in common is a stalwart sense of right and wrong. We are always great at issues of morality. It's born in us. It's rare for an autistic person to b...

    Under what circumstances would electrocution fix a genetic disorder? Being autistic, i can tell you that medicines and special treatment don't really help. The most effective therapy is being guided under normal circumstances, by someone who treats you like a normal person (and means it). It is nigh impossible to deceive an autistic child

    Autistic children are very intuitive, and have a good sense of what goes on beneath the surface. Most autistic children can tell from a mile off what a person's true intentions are. It's just that with most types of autism, the patient is unable to convey their thoughts and emotions properly. The best way to deal with a patient is to genuinely and truly be their friend. You need to treat them as an equal, AND MEAN it.

    It's crucial that you're genuine, and if you are being false, you will only hurt the patient. We know. We always know. Sometimes we give the benefit of the doubt, but in truth we know what's going on all along. You may think you fooled us. You may think that you can get away with veiled patronisation and hidden criticism, but you're really not.

    The other characteristic that we all have in common is a stalwart sense of right and wrong. We are always great at issues of morality. It's born in us. It's rare for an autistic person to be inaccurate on issues of morality.

    In synopsis, autism is a disorder which inhibits certain areas of the brain. Generally, it affects emotions, communication, and social skills. But the trade-off is, autism patients have deadly accurate intuition, great intelligence, and an infallible sense of morality. They do not call ASD patients "knowledgeable idiots" without reason.
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  • dennis.soroka.3 2012/05/23 20:15:14
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    dennis.soroka.3
    As long as the people that are doing the shocking have gone thru a shock therapy them selves and know what it feels like.
  • apachehellfire65 2012/05/23 20:13:04
    Cruel
    apachehellfire65
    it is beyond cruel! i would like to give those F*CKERS i trip to the chair!
  • Keith Herriott 2012/05/23 19:59:04
    Cruel
    Keith Herriott
    I believe ECT to be barbaric! I am aware that in some cases it may have been of some benefit but little or nothing is known as to why this is so. Therefor it is wrong to poke around in the dark when you cannot be sure of the outcome. It is little better than playing Russian Roulette with peoples' lives. Like sticking a pin in a newspaper to choose which horse to back. They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
  • Hula girl - Friends not Fol... 2012/05/23 19:54:01
    Cruel
    Hula girl - Friends not Followers
    +1
    Especially when that's not what causes autism.
  • Ambassador II 2012/05/23 19:47:49
    Cruel
    Ambassador II
    +2
    I'm not aware of any medical evidence that shock therapy produces positive results to any
    mental disorder. A couple of generations ago it was widely popular in "mental hospitals" of that day, which were laboratories much like Dr. Frankenstein's. No one today could imagine the tortures that went on in such places, except the morticians who claimed the
    bodies and the "staff" that witnessed the acts.
  • Leo 2012/05/23 19:44:11
    Cruel
    Leo
    +3
    I'm autistic. Autism is not a disease, nor a problem, nor an inferiority. It is a difference. We are people too.
  • kraftym... Leo 2012/05/23 20:38:08
    kraftymomma1979
    +1
    My son is also autistic. No person deserves to be treated like this.
  • TKramar 2012/05/23 19:37:43
    Cruel
    TKramar
    not constructive, anyhow.
  • Robert Morgan 2012/05/23 19:35:14
    Constructive
    Robert Morgan
    +2
    As someone else said, an undecided option is needed here, as well as more detailed info on the results of this treatment.
    I'm not a doctor, so I can offer no authoritative criticism of the actions of the doctors administering this treatment, much like I don't criticize doctors who questionably prescribe marijuana for unspecified, or any, ailment in certain states.

    If it works without using psychiatric pharmaceuticals to pickle their brains for the rest of their lives, so much the better.
  • Shantay Thompson 2012/05/23 19:25:57
    Cruel
    Shantay Thompson
    +2
    SHOCK Therapy on ANY living thing is Naferious in nature! BArbaric and DRaconion.......under the guise of AUTISM !!!!!! REALLY??????!!!!!!!!!come on now, we are existing in a. 21 st century, not the 1700's!
  • Shantay... Shantay... 2012/05/23 19:34:42
    Shantay Thompson
    When "scientist" began Shock Treatment, sometimes the shadow people would go a little too far. The volt of shock was too much causing such horrible muscle spasms, the Subjects skull would crack like an egg. Solution, NOW a drug used to. Kill people on Death Row. This I.V..PARALIZES the muscles. Thus a person is wide awake while being "shocked" and can't show, nor tell how much it hurts.....
  • Adam Shantay... 2012/05/23 21:11:17
    Adam
    That is not even close to being true. ECT uses a sedative and a "paralytic" ( actually a depolarizing muscle relaxant.). The sedative can be a type of hypnotic which results in consciousness but provides for amnesiac effect where the patient will not remember what occurred, or the sedative can produce unconsciousness similar to a general aesthetic.
    The sedative protects the patient from the experience and the "paralytic" protects the patients body from the convulsive effects.

    Lethal injection uses a sedative, a muscle relaxant and an electrolyte. The difference here is that the electrolyte is what is actually used for lethal effect. Potassium chloride (KCL) is given to stop the heart. The others are used to make the process more humane to the prisoner.

    Medications have multiple uses and your rhetoric doesn't change that.
  • Shantay... Adam 2012/05/26 01:47:40
    Shantay Thompson
    Oh......... THAT makes it better thaN????? At first the paralizing drug was "discovered" before using all the other meds now. Why do you think the other meds were??????
  • Shantay... Shantay... 2012/05/26 01:48:36
    Shantay Thompson
    Utilized?????
  • Adam Shantay... 2012/05/26 15:20:03
    Adam
    Please attempt that question again. Intelligibly this time, as I cannot comprehend gibberish.
  • Shantay... Adam 2012/06/27 18:53:19
    Shantay Thompson
    Ok, Adam...... The discovery of shock therapy, and the beginning uses were, BARBARIC! As time wore on various changes were made. First it was called a " Lobotomy ." Then became "Electric Shock." Maybe NOW all the meds are used to make it less horrifying in the eyes of the people administering the "treatment." So, yes, NOW we still practice this Barbaric act. Just "made a little more comfortable" for whom???? The one administering, or receiving treatment?????????
  • Adam Shantay... 2012/06/27 20:02:32
    Adam
    Noone is disputing that shock therapy was barbaric. But now it has medical benefits and is done humanely and with the patients informed consent.

    I still content that your demonizing of the various medications used is asinine and fear-mongering at best.

    Also, as more has come out about this case, this was not ECT. This was behavioral control via devices that caused shocks remotely. This was not humane and is not accepted medical treatment.

    However, be that as it may, you still need to do a better job informing yourself on what medical treatments are actually out there and what accepted treatments are.
  • Shantay... Adam 2012/06/27 18:57:19
    Shantay Thompson
    Ok, Adam...... The discovery of shock therapy, and the beginning uses were, BARBARIC! As time wore on various changes were made. First it was called a " Lobotomy ." Then became "Electric Shock." Maybe NOW all the meds are used to make it less horrifying in the eyes of the people administering the "treatment." So, yes, NOW we still practice this Barbaric act. Just "made a little more comfortable" for whom???? The one administering, or receiving treatment?????????
  • jst2swtnsassy 2012/05/23 19:23:24
    Cruel
    jst2swtnsassy
    +1
    I am appalled that this method is still in existence! I don't understand with all the research and progress that has supposedly been made, this is still the one that is resorted to "fix" problems in society. I have an autistic nephew and HFA (high functioning autism) daughter, and I would NEVER allow this to be done to treatment to be used on my child for any reason. I can't imagine how the effects have hurt the child physically, emotionally and more importantly, mentally. I am ashamed that it is approved and utilized in a special needs school, a place where a child should feel safe and receive loving and kind treatment and alternative methods to help them cope with their particular challenge, not harm them.
  • Zuggi 2012/05/23 19:22:31
    Cruel
    Zuggi
    ...
  • Justin Teufel Hunden 2012/05/23 19:13:10 (edited)
    Cruel
    Justin Teufel Hunden
    +1
    WTF? I'm no PHD of medical knowledge, so I can't give a just opinion...seems pretty wack though. Many politicians seem to need a lil shock therapy!
  • kraftym... Justin ... 2012/05/24 20:12:04
    kraftymomma1979
    It doesn't take a PHD to be a decent human being and to care about others. Don't sell yourself short.
  • (▪‿▪)DoctorWhoGuru(▪‿▪) 2012/05/23 19:06:47 (edited)
    Cruel
    (▪‿▪)DoctorWhoGuru(▪‿▪)
    +1
    Yes It Is Cruel
  • Miko Mikomiko 2012/05/23 19:04:16

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