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SodaHead News 2012/02/15 14:00:00
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College tuition continues to rise, but Dohn Community High School -- a dropout recovery charter school in Cincinnati -- is going in a different direction. With funding from a handful of donors -- Reuters reports that they're not using any operating funds -- DCHS is rewarding students for going to class consistently. By offering them money.

Easter Seals is offering $25 a week to all DCHS seniors who arrive to class on time every day; $10 a week for underclassmen. And surprise, surprise: it appears to be working! DCHS principal Ramon Davenport told The Associated Press, "You have students who we haven't seen in a week or two coming to school. So that tells me that this incentive that we’re trying is actually working."

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  • Randice 2012/02/15 17:06:14
    Crazy
    Randice
    +13
    In my day, not having my butt beat by my parents was enough incentive for me to go to school. No wonder we're sinking lower and lower on the international scale when it comes to our kids' education.

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  • Florian 2012/12/10 17:36:03
    Creative
    Florian
    im a student my self at madeira beach fundementle and i attend school with out getting paid and i think its a good idea to get paid to do something thats not exactly the most fun thing in the world and i just think more kids have chances to graduate if they attend more and have a reward for attending
  • antiregressivism 2012/04/10 02:46:57
    Crazy
    antiregressivism
    They'll show up, get the money, and then zone out. Just because you're there doesn't mean you're learning anything.
  • Joshua Casey 2012/03/29 17:22:03
    Creative
    Joshua Casey
    HELL, IF U PAYED ME TO GO TO SCHOOL, I WOULD BE GOING ALREADY!! THE GOVERNMENT OWES ME FOR THE CRAP I WENT THROUGH OF HAVING CANCER & HAVING A DAD DRAG ME ACROSS THE US IN THE AIR FORCE!!
  • Yo'Adrienne..AFCL 2012/03/28 23:27:44
    Crazy
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    It's gets more UNBELIEVEABLE every day......what are we headed toward, besides
    a CLIFF with no bottom!
  • Something Sea 2012/03/26 23:16:14
    Creative
    Something Sea
    School, as it is now, functions as a job that doesn't pay you, you can't get fired from, and within which self-expression is severely limited. It is little different from prison; the main difference is that there isn't physical rape (Bubba).

    Why, then, go to school? Exactly: no reason. I've seen a couple of responses on here relating to physical punishment and blind obedience, such as from:
    -Randice-:
    "In my day, not having my butt beat by my parents was enough incentive for me"
    -tikiteek-
    "my kids do what I say when I say it...PERIOD!"
    PS3 Slim
    "Kids are suppose to go to class they don't need to payed to go to class."

    Punishment and blind obedience are not conducive to learning. They are, however, very conducive to Training. But I don't want people who are trained into avoiding punishment and blindly obeying. People coming from such training would be very boring and violent, since they think the world works via punishment and obedience.

    Another comment relates to despair about those who do not attend creating choas:
    -aLABiM75-
    "Just what we need, more sick kids going to school and delinquents getting paid to disrupt others."

    A question: if the student is being paid $10 to attend, and if they acted up, what do you suppose would be a good way to ask them to not do that?
  • Michaelene 2012/03/10 21:36:34
    Creative
    Michaelene
    As a teacher, I've counseled students in this situation. Some students can't attend high school, they support their family among other hardships. $1300 a year is not going to get them back in a class.
    So who are these kids who get my tax money to go to a school my tax dollars pay for?

    I believe in second chances so let me know their standards and scores to prove it is actually working.
  • tikiteek 2012/03/09 20:16:10
    Crazy
    tikiteek
    That's crazy! my kids do what I say when I say it...PERIOD!
  • Somethi... tikiteek 2012/03/26 23:20:37
    Something Sea
    Are you being sarcastic/silly?
  • tikiteek Somethi... 2012/07/20 19:41:21 (edited)
    tikiteek
    No! I wasn't being sarcastic. You won't see my kids walking across a table in the pizza paror, with pizza on the table.
  • ZimRocksYourSocks 2012/03/07 05:08:09
    Creative
    ZimRocksYourSocks
    +1
    It's just like having a job of you don't show up you don't get paid its a good lesson to teach
  • Yo'Adri... ZimRock... 2012/03/28 23:30:03
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    WHAT?????????????????? It ISN"T like having a JOB!
  • BlueRepublican 2012/03/03 17:59:41
    Creative
    BlueRepublican
    +1
    I love it!! In regular school you go but you don't know why. At this school you know exactly why you go: to get paid.!! :-)
  • Yo'Adri... BlueRep... 2012/03/28 23:30:20
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    Do you hear the horn.....the "GRAVY " train just pulled up......If you don't do it for YOURSELF......then give up.! Geez!
  • Devyne Luve 2012/03/02 11:04:58
    Creative
    Devyne Luve
    Motivation
  • Vitalani 2012/03/01 01:00:18
    Creative
    Vitalani
    People should seriously stop being so butt hurt over this. It isn't hurting anybody and there really isn't much of a downside. It is a reason to attend class and will help many kids learn to manage money, win/win. Keep the "back in my day" crap to yourself, it's called progress. Back in MY day I walked to school and had a cassette tape player and listened to songs I taped off of the radio, that doesn't stop me from taking the bus and listening to my ipod full of music from the internet NOW and I don't look down on anyone else for doing so.
  • Yo'Adri... Vitalani 2012/03/28 23:31:03
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    and WHO do you THINK pays for it.???....WAke up and smell the coffee! UNREAL!
  • Vitalani Yo'Adri... 2012/03/29 00:04:18 (edited)
    Vitalani
    *derp* I'd be perfectly willing to pay for this if it will encourage schooling, making kids ready to contribute more to the workforce thus furthering the economy.
    ALSO, are you trying to say this would be from taxpayers? Because most likely, it would be paid for from the lottery money that schools receive. *PACEPALM*
    I think you need to take your own advice.
  • aLABiM75 2012/02/29 22:00:47
    Crazy
    aLABiM75
    +1
    Just what we need, more sick kids going to school and delinquents getting paid to disrupt others.
  • Somethi... aLABiM75 2012/03/26 23:21:03
    Something Sea
    A question: if the student is being paid $10 to attend, and if they acted up, what do you suppose would be a good way to ask them to not do that?
  • Yo'Adri... Somethi... 2012/03/28 23:31:59
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    FINE THEM....! (the ten dollars that we just paid...from taxes....) WHOA....that's a great idea.
  • Somethi... Yo'Adri... 2012/03/30 21:21:17
    Something Sea
    I don't understand how fining them would be a solution to anything. First of all, they don't want to be in school, but they have to be. Why? Because. No answer. "To learn." In the harshest, most uncondusive learning environment possible, where a bell every hour dictates how in-dept into a subject they can go before ripping out of it to an entirely new subject, which can't be too helpful for long-term learning or concentration. This type of training is commonly used for dogs, to tell them when to expect a treat. Not exactly an endearing message to kids.

    Add to this already crappy deal of that if they don't attend the job that they aren't being paid for, which if their parents protect them from, the kids are taken away from the parents, and which the kids can't be fired from without being unable to get a lower-end job... add to this, that they're fined if they don't attend, and we now not only have property taxation slavery of their parents, but also now not only attention slavery, but an extension of property tax to a school tax -- if your child doesn't attend school, you pay $10. Add $10 for each child. Because with what money is the child going to pay? The parents' money, of course. Then again, maybe they'll get lucky, and CPS will deem them incompetent parents, and relocate t...








    I don't understand how fining them would be a solution to anything. First of all, they don't want to be in school, but they have to be. Why? Because. No answer. "To learn." In the harshest, most uncondusive learning environment possible, where a bell every hour dictates how in-dept into a subject they can go before ripping out of it to an entirely new subject, which can't be too helpful for long-term learning or concentration. This type of training is commonly used for dogs, to tell them when to expect a treat. Not exactly an endearing message to kids.

    Add to this already crappy deal of that if they don't attend the job that they aren't being paid for, which if their parents protect them from, the kids are taken away from the parents, and which the kids can't be fired from without being unable to get a lower-end job... add to this, that they're fined if they don't attend, and we now not only have property taxation slavery of their parents, but also now not only attention slavery, but an extension of property tax to a school tax -- if your child doesn't attend school, you pay $10. Add $10 for each child. Because with what money is the child going to pay? The parents' money, of course. Then again, maybe they'll get lucky, and CPS will deem them incompetent parents, and relocate the child to total strangers, deemed by sociopaths who are stealing our money in the form of "taxation" to be fit to parent.

    Something tells me that won't help the situation. And were not you, yoadrienne, also put through this system? You have a post graduate education. Did you enjoy school? Do you think if you were fined $10 every time you weren't in class, that you'd be motivated to learn? Or would you be scared, and pretend to learn, memorizing the stuff for each class, and promptly forgetting it? That's how it goes anyways, and that forgetfulness would simply be exacerbated.

    Additionally, wouldn't you prefer schools to compete for your money? Currently, they don't, and that's because they're funded through taxation. You pay taxation regardless of whether or not you got a good service. I don't see an incentive structure there that would guarantee progress and a better product. If anything, I see every reason to act as if you'd provided a service, and then give people the sub-par, giving corporations and the rich the best service, because they're the ones who are funding government, especially with bailouts for "too big to fail" businesses that aren't serving the customers, and so accordingly lose sales to other places, and those other places are failing, because of all the loops put in by big businesses to destroy competition, which is enforced with violence and coercion.

    Rawsome, weed, hemp, and so forth, all being targeted by Big Oil corporations that raid places for "sanitary" or "drug" reasons that put peaceful people in jail, to be raped, and then let sociopaths (politicians that lie every 4 years and plus) go free, even to killing random, innocent people in collateral damage by puppets of mention who are funded by the CIA, such as Al Queda.

    All of these corporations are owned by 12 to 13 megafamiles:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    (more)
  • PS3 Slim 2012/02/29 01:45:04
    Crazy
    PS3 Slim
    +1
    Kids are suppose to go to class they don't need to payed to go to class.
  • Somethi... PS3 Slim 2012/03/26 23:21:58
    Something Sea
    School, as it is now, functions as a job that doesn't pay you, you can't get fired from, and within which self-expression is severely limited. It is little different from prison; the main difference is that there isn't physical rape (Bubba).

    Why, then, go to school? Exactly: no reason. Thus, introducing monetary incentives to attend would (as it is showing to) have a beneficial effect on what is otherwise a purely prison-like experience.
  • Yo'Adri... Somethi... 2012/03/28 23:33:27
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    NO REAON to go to school?>?????are you serious??? You need meds and a doctor.!
  • Yo'Adri... PS3 Slim 2012/03/28 23:32:43
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    HULLO...you are a wise person.....I applaud you+!!!!!
  • usa #1 2012/02/26 02:21:45
    Creative
    usa #1
    +1
    All i know is that if I was being payed to go to class, I would be the first one there.
  • Yo'Adri... usa #1 2012/03/28 23:34:30
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    Says alot about who you are....who you will become...and why we will be paying your way for
    the rest of our life. thanks for the heads up.!
  • usa #1 Yo'Adri... 2012/04/04 00:58:57
    usa #1
    its called sarcasm. kids who don't go to class are losers. sorry you don't understand sarcasm.
  • Elton Joao 2012/02/24 19:18:37
    Creative
    Elton Joao
    +1
    O.M.G Thats Amesome. Best Idea Ever. OMG
    Dont Like It. Suck My Balls. O.M.G.
  • ten thousand and ONE fists 2012/02/24 16:14:07
    Crazy
    ten thousand and ONE fists
    Attending class does not necessarily imply following and working hard for good grades. I consider this a failure as long as they don't add passing classes as a condition.
  • MindaBrown ten tho... 2012/02/25 15:17:53
    MindaBrown
    +1
    This just goes to show you what kind of parents there are today. Don't have enough sense to pound sand in a rat hole.
  • ten tho... MindaBrown 2012/02/26 13:23:05
    ten thousand and ONE fists
    +1
    True indeed. I wish they could see some rural regions in my country. Kids take a 15Km walk to go to school, sometimes in the mountains, with no complaint.
  • Somethi... ten tho... 2012/03/26 23:32:53
    Something Sea
    When the only answer is null, you can only extrapolate how hard times were for you, and ask those who are enjoying the boom of today's innovation to accept harsher conditions, holding up those who faced the worst traumas as the heros, to be exemplified. This is a bad sign, for it means that instead of looking forward to innovation, people are instead looking backward, for the familiar... and the harsh. Do you want your children to have a better future than your current situation? It doesn't sound like it.
  • ten tho... Somethi... 2012/03/28 17:10:48
    ten thousand and ONE fists
    As far as I know, I did not mention that I lived the same pain anywhere, and I thank God for that. Moreover, my statement does not imply what you said at all since I just showed the contrast between the degree of disinterest of these student compared to the kids in the aforementioned rural regions.

    I am currently volunteering for extra tutoring, I go to a small school somewhere in the Middle Atlas (check the location here http://g.co/maps/vsxmc), and the least I can say is how impressed and humbled I was to see kids traveling such distances to attend knowing that it was fully optional.

    Trust me, kids in our cities are as lazy and disinterested in studies as in the US (if not more), and I, by no means, am asking for anything else that would corrupt continuous development and innovation of any country's educational system. With all due respect, you just read something that does not exist between the lines.
  • Somethi... MindaBrown 2012/03/26 23:30:34
    Something Sea
    The parents of today are themselves the result of public education. Does that tell you anything about how effective compulsory schooling is?
  • Yo'Adri... MindaBrown 2012/03/28 23:35:56
    Yo'Adrienne..AFCL
    I have to leave ...This is really making me sad....for the next generation and humanity in genreal....
    SIgning off. disgusted...
  • Somethi... ten tho... 2012/03/26 23:25:50
    Something Sea
    What's the motivation for the kids to learn? They're in a place they HAVE to go, they don't get pay, they can't get fired... it's little different from prison. It's not that much of a surprise, then, that things go awry. While giving out a monetary incentive is only the first step towards a voluntary educational style, it's better than sheer compulsory schooling with absolutely no reason to be excited. Ideally, all school would be voluntary.
  • Somethi... Somethi... 2012/03/26 23:29:59
    Something Sea
    I'd like to pre-address something:
    "What's their motivation to learn? Because the subjects are interesting, of course!"
    That will become false as the year goes on, for the following reasons:
    1. School is compulsory, functioning like a babysitter. Thus, conflicts that are at home are brought to school. Because school deals with these things with a slash and dash method, these conflicts multiply, rather than being dealt with. Accordingly, any conflicts that are at home will be multiplied by schooling.
    2. Natural motivation to learn. See 1.
    3. Get a good job. Diplomas or even high school graduation papers, being that everyone has them, are rapidly declining in value. It's an assumption. And because more and more less-qualified people are getting them, that de-values the pool of those who worked harder. The result is that the paper becomes more and more worthless, making this less and less appealing.
  • angel123 2012/02/24 04:26:04
    Crazy
    angel123
    That's freaking dumb! It's the kids choice kid to learn no ones forcing him. His choice he wants to be successful go for it u wanna be a hobo not my problem
  • Somethi... angel123 2012/03/26 23:35:05
    Something Sea
    No-one is forcing the kid to be in school?
    If his/her parents don't send the kid to school, the kid will be plucked up by Child Protective Services. There is no pay to be in school, and you can't get fired from it.
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