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School Fined $15,000 for Selling Soda: Acceptable or Outrageous?

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The federal government is reportedly suing Davis High School in Salt Lake City, Utah for accidentally selling soda to kids during lunch time -- a violation of federal law. The violation is costing the school $0.75 per student (that's about $15,000 total) and forcing it to make budget cuts elsewhere to pay for the offence. Remarkably, some people are upset.

Principal Dee Burton told KUTV, "The rule is vague and open to interpretation. For example, the way the rule reads -- you can buy before lunch starts a carbonated beverage, buy school lunch, sit down in the cafeteria, eat the school lunch and not be in violation ... You can sell Snickers and Milkyway bars because they have nuts and they're nutritious. You can't sell licorice, but you can sell ice-cream ... The misconception is if we don't let kids buy candy and pop, we drive them to the cafeteria, it doesn't drive them to the cafeteria it drives them off campus." Does it sound fair to you?

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  • Robert 2012/05/23 21:33:51
    Outrageous
    Robert
    +2
    This is just another case where the government sticks it nose into something that should be handled by the school / parents. I like the comments by "conservyT" further these comments. The parents should decide for their children. The government should Not take away money that could be used in the classrooms. Have the vending machines and let the parents teach their children what they want by example and directions to their children.
  • Kozmo Robert 2012/05/24 05:09:03
    Kozmo
    With both parent working fulltime they've offloaded upbringing onto authority & media
  • Paul Felix Schott 2012/05/23 21:30:35
    Acceptable
    Paul  Felix Schott
    +1
    Do not fine them just fire the ones that let it happen.

    By Fining them all our government is doing is letting them get away with it, and making all land owners tax go up. We The People pay for the schools out of are taxes.

    So is this a joke
    our Government wasting more of are money to teach us not to tell them what to do. By Fining the School they are Fining us, Everyone wake up tell your leaders in our Government to Fire the ones that do bad lots of people would love to have their job.
    Their are a lot of wicked in office in our land, that a lot of Good out of work would be more then happy to have work. The pay some of them get is a Joke let them try to run their own company and see if they can make half as much.

    Let’s take out all the Artificial Colors and Flavors that are a danger to us all,
    not to think about all the Dangerous Food Preservatives. The health risks that we
    all pay should be enough to teach all Leaders to stop it. You want lower health
    cost start with the number one cause of 90% of the problems chemical ingredients
    drugs. Let our children eat good food not the man made chemical ingredients and
    drugs found in many processed foods.
    Take soda pop out of all schools and put back in Nutrition Whole Milk. 90% of all
    the Olympic Athletes gold medalists drink Whol...













    Do not fine them just fire the ones that let it happen.

    By Fining them all our government is doing is letting them get away with it, and making all land owners tax go up. We The People pay for the schools out of are taxes.

    So is this a joke
    our Government wasting more of are money to teach us not to tell them what to do. By Fining the School they are Fining us, Everyone wake up tell your leaders in our Government to Fire the ones that do bad lots of people would love to have their job.
    Their are a lot of wicked in office in our land, that a lot of Good out of work would be more then happy to have work. The pay some of them get is a Joke let them try to run their own company and see if they can make half as much.

    Let’s take out all the Artificial Colors and Flavors that are a danger to us all,
    not to think about all the Dangerous Food Preservatives. The health risks that we
    all pay should be enough to teach all Leaders to stop it. You want lower health
    cost start with the number one cause of 90% of the problems chemical ingredients
    drugs. Let our children eat good food not the man made chemical ingredients and
    drugs found in many processed foods.
    Take soda pop out of all schools and put back in Nutrition Whole Milk. 90% of all
    the Olympic Athletes gold medalists drink Whole MILK.
    i have been drinking half and half milk cream since 1964 and can brake three
    2 by 4's in less than a second and a half. i have good strong bones thanks to milk
    and GOD.

    USA Leaders others countries started to put a end to chemical ingredients and drugs
    a while ago what are we waiting for the Drug CEO's and Drug Cartels to approve it?

    05/07/2012 01:08 PM EDT D.O.J. Washington, D.C.
    Global Health Care Company Abbott Laboratories Inc. has pleaded guilty and agreed to pay $1.5 billion to resolve its criminal and civil liability arising from the company’s unlawful promotion of the prescription drug Depakote for uses not approved as safe and effective by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the Justice Department announced today. The resolution – the second largest payment by a drug company – includes a criminal fine and forfeiture totaling $700 million and civil settlements with the federal government and the states totaling $800 million. Abbott also will be subject to court-supervised probation and reporting obligations for Abbott’s CEO and Board of Directors.

    For a while i chauffeured the CEO's of Abbott Laboratories Inc. Jack W. Schuler was one they should have kept he was very smart and a nice man to work with. It is Abbott's loss $$$$$$$$$ that he is no longer with them.

    The Lord's Little Helper
    Paul Felix Schott
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  • kraftym... Paul F... 2012/05/24 15:29:04
    kraftymomma1979
    Give the ones responsible a choice - resign or pay the fine.
  • BoJay 2012/05/23 21:23:15
    Outrageous
    BoJay
    +2
    Mrs Obama fat ass
    As long as this woman stay in the Washington she will have the muscle to do this nation wide.
  • nvartist 2012/05/23 21:15:08
    Outrageous
    nvartist
    +2
    I am sick and tired of the overreach of government. This is just plain ridiculous. Most of us have no choice where to send our kids for school. The government is just getting absolutely ridiculous. This needs to stop and stop now!
  • J-DUB 2012/05/23 21:10:04 (edited)
    Acceptable
    J-DUB
    +2
    The amount of the fine is excessive in my opinion but they did violate the rules.
  • wth 2012/05/23 21:01:20 (edited)
    Outrageous
    wth
    +3
    That is ridiculous! They should fine them that much for not teaching the right curriculum! Our kids are falling behind the rest of the world in Math and Science and they're worried about kids being fat! Teach the physioligical effects of food and nutrition and give kids the choice!
  • Sagan 2012/05/23 20:58:47
    Outrageous
    Sagan
    At our school all we can drink is orange juice (clumpy in the bottom), milk (often spoiled), and apple juice (watery).
  • Aileen 2012/05/23 20:34:43
  • Vitalani 2012/05/23 20:32:19
    Acceptable
    Vitalani
    +1
    The law is the law.
  • Aly Hart 2012/05/23 20:22:37
  • Bulanova (Team Hargitay) 2012/05/23 20:15:12
    Outrageous
    Bulanova (Team Hargitay)
    +2
    Truly, truly, truly outrageous!

    outrageous
  • tpops 2012/05/23 20:10:15
    Outrageous
    tpops
    +2
    This should be the call of the local citizens, not big brother. It the parents of these high school students they should work locally with the school administration or district to take the soda out of the school.

    I am aware of the school district in Texas that gets fined every year for violating the sugar/fat rules and they don't care because their profit from selling junk food is much greater than the fines they recieve.
  • conservyT 2012/05/23 20:00:46
    Outrageous
    conservyT
    +3
    The problem here is the Parents and NOT the Schools.

    Growing up in my house my mother who did all the grocery shopping only bought healthy food. The only sweets that she would buy came from fruits and Not candy or soda, which at my house soda and candy were a treat. Thereby, when I'd go to school I'd get my sugar fix there. Moreover, it’s the PARENTS responsible for their Children's diets and NOT the GOVERNMENT!!!

    I’ve continued this practice that my mother taught me onto my children. At their school, which happens to be a Private Christian School, they have a vending machine for candies and sodas. Since my children are Not given any monies to take to school and take their own lunch from home guess who monitors what they eat, me, Mom. This is what I call Parenting and my kids are Strong and Healthy; Thank God.
  • Mae conservyT 2012/05/24 07:18:01
    Mae
    +1
    Good for you, for being a responsible Mother. My Mother raised my siblings & I the same way, soda was a once-in-a-while treat, as was candy. Everybody knows what foods are good for you, and which ones are not, but still, we all indulge from time to time. Nobody needs the govt. to take control of their lives and tell them what they can & cannot eat or drink, that it up to each individual's own personal responsibility.
  • Ralph 2012/05/23 19:36:13
    Outrageous
    Ralph
    +1
    That's ridiculous. They are taking money away from the student's education when they need it most. Why not just have the machines removed?
  • k fleming 2012/05/23 19:36:00
    Acceptable
    k fleming
    +1
    If you want to have government schools, the government is going to do things you don't want them to do.
    Plank #10 of Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto calls for government controled public schools, the only reason public schools served the US as well as they have, is because until only recently public school were largely locally and state controled. The real questions we should be asking is should we have public schools (as we know them now) at all? And if so who should be the governing body? Certainly not the federal level "no child left behind!"
  • michael johnson 2012/05/23 19:31:05
    Acceptable
    michael johnson
    +4
    How does one sell something accidentally? They knew the rules. You take the money, you follow the rules. Simple as that.
  • kraftym... michael... 2012/05/24 15:30:30
    kraftymomma1979
    My guess is that someone didn't want to give up his/her kickbacks.
  • Kat 2012/05/23 19:20:37
    Outrageous
    Kat
    Didn't the feds originally intervene to get the trash in schools that were more than happy selling milk to students?
  • michael... Kat 2012/05/23 19:32:30
    michael johnson
    Wrong again, honey.
  • Kat michael... 2012/05/23 20:02:07
    Kat
    +1
    It was a question, I know they didn't care for the idea where I was.
    Are you always a misogynistic ahole.
    I don't recall speaking to you before so you can stick your wrong again and your honey BS.
  • Sweet-N-Sour 2012/05/23 19:20:24
    Outrageous
    Sweet-N-Sour
    +2
    Regardless of whether you feel that soda should be acceptable or not, you have to ask, what exactly is fining the school $15,000 going to accomplish except hurt the kids more than the soda would have. Yet another Government overreach.
  • Callaway 2012/05/23 19:18:59
    Outrageous
    Callaway
    +5
    More classic Nanny Nation behavior from the Federal government.
  • Bri 2012/05/23 19:15:32
    Outrageous
    Bri
    +2
    I don't think the school should have been fined, but a simple removal of the machines would have sufficed. I would like to know that while my kids are in school they have healthy choices available to them. We do drink soda in my house, just in limited quantities.
  • Doctor 2012/05/23 19:15:32
    Acceptable
    Doctor
    +1
    I ment to click outrageous, Sorry
  • Bri Doctor 2012/05/23 19:17:13
    Bri
    While you took the time to write what you meant to choose, you could have deleted and re-voted. Ijs. :)
  • Justina... Bri 2012/05/23 19:37:21
    Justina Jackson
    You can do that?! I'm being serious btw idk howvto do that.
  • Bri Justina... 2012/11/15 15:52:28
    Bri
    My phone gives me the option, a red delete square next to my comment so Idk how to do it otherwise.
  • Vitalani Bri 2012/05/23 20:37:10
    Vitalani
    Do you know how to do that?
  • fitz 2012/05/23 19:15:15
    Acceptable
    fitz
    +2
    The rules were established during Clinton's presidency and have been in place ever sense; including GWBs. As far as candy bars with nuts in them, the same was done recently when the food industry made pizza a vegetable over the complaints of the Dept of Ag, the USDA, and world renowned nutritionists. The gov't also attempted to limit french fries in school but the potato industry overuled them. You should be thankful that the gov't is attempting to feed our children better than what the food industry wants to feed them. Otherwise, don't complain when junior or sissy becomes fat and has to wear XXX and can't hold a job after graduation. This article is very misleading.
  • saleff fitz 2012/05/23 19:26:54
    saleff
    +1
    No I am not thankful for a government that sticks it's nose my personal business. This is not what or government was set-up to do. You do realize there are millions of us that are not fat and it didn't take the goverment to keep us in shape.
  • fitz saleff 2012/05/25 13:02:59
    fitz
    For every one of you that isn't fat, there's another one that is. That person will cost us additional money in taxes to pay for their dibilitating life. Diabetes accounts for 1/5th of the entire health costs. Recent news states that childhood glucose readings are almost triple what they were in 1999. If you don't think this is a national problem, you are very mistaken. I have been a Type 1 diabetic for forty yrs so I understand the problem a little better than you, in most likelihood.
    As far as the blog is concerned, let Utah send their massive amount of federal education money back to the taxpayers and they can do whatever they want; otherwise live up to the terms set up between the gov't and our educational system for the last 15 years. If you drive like an idiot on our streets, someone will tell you that you are in violation of the law. There you go, big gov't. restricting our freedoms. That's a small example of what govt is supposed to do; protect the majority.
  • Kozmo fitz 2012/05/24 05:13:22
    Kozmo
    Check out "Food Inc." runner up after 'The Cove'.
  • kraftym... fitz 2012/05/24 15:31:41
    kraftymomma1979
    +1
    I actually most posters didn't even bother to read the article.
  • Saye Saye 2012/05/23 19:10:29
    Outrageous
    Saye Saye
    +1
    oh come on...there is so much childhood obesity as it is and the parents don't restrict sugars. Schools should not provide sodas.
  • Bri Saye Saye 2012/05/23 19:19:05
    Bri
    +2
    I'm a parent. I restrict sugars from my kids. Quit assuming you know everything. Ijs.
  • kraftym... Bri 2012/05/23 19:29:22
    kraftymomma1979
    +2
    I believe you and commend you for it. My classroom used to have a Coke machine right across from the door. The snack machines were about 10 feet away from my classroom. There were machines like this staged all through the building. In a situation like that, you probably don't know what your kids are eating at school. This school had been caught breaking the law and given warnings. They chose to disobey the law.
  • Cornball kraftym... 2012/05/23 20:17:02
    Cornball
    Yeah but this is just harming the students. They now have to cut stuff out of the budget, why should the students get punished for the school breaking the law? That fine is what's outrageous.

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