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Scalia Is Making It Up As He Goes Along.

ProudProgressive 2012/06/26 14:00:19

If you've been on SodaHead for more than a few days, by now you will have seen the growing phenomenon of Right Wing disconnect with reality. A recent survey conducted by Dartmouth University demonstrated a wide gap between objective reality and the world as the Right Wing would like to see it. Complete denial when it comes to the President's many accomplishments has become commonplace. More and more, it seems that the Right Wingers on this site simply make it up as they go along.

But who could really have expected Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia to fall prey to the same delusional world view? Scalia has always been skilled at coming up with a convoluted argument to claim that the Constitution says something it doesn't (like "corporations are people", for instance), but with his bizarre dissent in the Arizona SB 1070 decision, Scalia is beginning to sound more and more like a Sodahead Rightie. Thank goodness he can't block the other justices.

Article excerpt follows:

Supreme Court Strikes Most of Arizona Immigration Law, Making Scalia Very Angry
Scott Lemieux
June 25, 2012

The oral arguments earlier this year on the SB-1070, the infamous Arizona immigration law, made it difficult to read how the Court was going to rule on most of its provisions, although the Court seemed on balance more sympathetic to Arizona's position. Given how things looked after that, today's decision in Arizona v. United States must be considered a pleasant surprise. Most of the key provisions of the Arizona law were struck down, and the provision that was not could still be subject to future challenges depending on how it is applied. Rather than the usual 5-4 split, the case was decided 5-3 (with Justice Kagan recusing herself); surprisingly, Chief Justice Roberts joined Justice Kennedy and the Court's four Democratic appointees but did not write. Roberts apparently wanted there to be a five-person majority rather than having most of the Arizona law upheld because of a tie that left the lower court decision undisturbed.

The most remarkable opinion in the case, however, is Justice Scalia's solo dissent. Like Thomas, he believes that the Arizona law should be upheld in its entirety. Unlike Thomas, he took not taken a narrow view of what is required for state law to be preempted. In keeping with his clownish performance at oral argument, Scalia makes no attempt to conceal the political values that motivated this contradiction with his past jurisprudence. As he did at oral argument, he begins by asserting that "[a]s a sovereign, Arizona has the inherent power to exclude persons from its territory." This conflation of a nation-state and a constituent part of a nation state is utterly inappropriate, and the qualification that Scalia goes on to add—"subject only to those limitations expressed in the Constitution or constitutionally imposed by Congress"—completely swallows the first statement.

Given such constitutional requirements as the federal right to travel, American states are simply not "sovereign," and any reasoning based on this principle has no chance of withstanding scrutiny. Scalia's dissent continues in this vein, defending Arizona's law by making policy arguments against Congress and the Obama administration. "Must Arizona’s ability to protect its borders yield to the reality that Congress has provided inadequate funding for federal enforcement—or, even worse, to the Executive’s unwise targeting of that funding?" asks Scalia. Actually, yes—our constitutional framework does not allow Arizona to premept federal law if it doesn't like the way it's being exercised, and Arizona does not in fact have the inherent right to exclude people that the federal government does. And things get even worse as he tries to expand on his theory that the Supremacy Clause is inapplicable if Congress exercises its authority in a way Antonin Scalia doesn't like:

As is often the case, discussion of the dry legalities that are the proper object of our attention suppresses the very human realities that gave rise to the suit. Arizona bears the brunt of the country’s illegal immigration problem. Its citizens feel themselves under siege by large numbers of illegal immigrants who invade their property, strain their social services, and even place their lives in jeopardy. Federal officials have been unable to remedy the problem, and indeed have recently shown that they are unwilling to do so.

Amusingly, Scalia has just released a co-authored book criticizing many of his colleagues for not adhering to what he considers the only acceptable consideration that can go into legal reasoning—the text of the relevant document as it was construed at the time of its ratification. I had no idea that the original meaning of the Constitution and federal statutes could be best discerned by listening to The Michael Savage Show.

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  • MsTlynne 2012/06/27 13:36:33
    MsTlynne
    I expect an announcement very soon that Scalia will be retiring due to is advanced state of dementia. I will be saying "I told you so."
  • Live Free Or Die 2012/06/26 19:43:00
    Live Free Or Die
    +1
    Judge Antonin Scalia along with the other Conservative justices got a majority vote to allow police to strip search anyone they arrest without probable cause, so this doesn't surprise me. Making it up as he goes along is an understatement, it's more like he has no respect for the Constitution or the rule of law.

    http://www.nwprogressive.org/...
  • ALofRI 2012/06/26 19:02:05
    ALofRI
    +2
    Again, right (if you'll pardon the expression), on the nose! If Romney were to win the election, say goodbye to the SCOTUS as an independent judgement authority...for good! America would NEVER recover (without a revolution) , I believe. What a tragedy a Romney "Presidential Commission" would be! Romney would be "named" President, but all these billionaires buying the Presidency would run the "Puppet Show"!
  • ally 2012/06/26 18:20:41
    ally
    +4
    On this site, daily I hear the cries of "impeachment because of unconstitutional laws"'. Scalia and Thomas would definitely fit that bill. How do we get started?
  • ProudPr... ally 2012/06/26 18:40:05
    ProudProgressive
    +5
    Convince someone in the House of Representatives to introduce articles of impeachment, get the judiciary committee to approve it, get a majority of the House to approve it, then get two thirds of the Senate to vote for it.

    Simple, right?
  • ally ProudPr... 2012/06/26 18:49:43
    ally
    +3
    One out three (I'm being very optimistic). In other words, we're SOL.
  • whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2012/06/26 16:09:46
  • ProudPr... whitewu... 2012/06/26 16:12:21
    ProudProgressive
    +6
    Race cards this early? Why am I not surprised that you don't have anything remotely relevant to say.
  • ALofRI ProudPr... 2012/06/26 19:03:56
    ALofRI
    +3
    It's only a race card when liberals use it...so they say.
  • ehrhornp 2012/06/26 15:55:53
    ehrhornp
    +4
    I think Scalia may be losing it. No one else signed onto his dissenting opinion. He was just wrong. I don't think he will be on the court too much longer.
  • ALofRI ehrhornp 2012/06/26 19:06:16
    ALofRI
    +3
    He lost it before he became a "Justice". If Romney is elected, there will be about 3 more just like him!
  • ehrhornp ALofRI 2012/06/26 19:47:29
    ehrhornp
    +6
    That is why Obama has to be reelected. It seems like Scalia is losing it even more than usual.
  • President Camacho 2012/06/26 15:37:18
    President Camacho
    +1
    Scalia is one of the most brilliant jurists in the history of the supreme court.
  • ProudPr... Preside... 2012/06/26 16:14:18
  • Preside... ProudPr... 2012/06/26 18:31:12
    President Camacho
    Now that is a strange person.
  • ProudPr... Preside... 2012/06/26 18:41:31
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    LOL that's George Takei.

    George Takei Sulu
  • GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~612 BLOCKT 2012/06/26 15:14:28
    GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~612 BLOCKT
    +6
    "But who could really have expected Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia to fall prey to the same delusional world view? Scalia has always been skilled at coming up with a convoluted argument to claim that the Constitution says something it doesn't (like "corporations are people", for instance), but with his bizarre dissent in the Arizona SB 1070 decision, Scalia is beginning to sound more and more like a Sodahead Rightie. Thank goodness he can't block the other justices."

    That statement was a good one PP. In Scalia's demented rantings he's sounding like TX. Maybe both them states should secede & then they can determine their own immigration policies without having to be bothered by that cumbersome document called the Constitution. They'll be sovereign countries & can issue their own passports, racially profile to their hearts content (I know Joe Arpaio will love that). Maybe even elect Arpaio as DICTATOR of their sovereign nation!
  • Rebel Yell 2012/06/26 14:56:35
    Rebel Yell
    +7
    Now we know for sure. Scalia would be a great fit on FOX News.
  • Wilde~MoonChild ™ 2012/06/26 14:40:12 (edited)
    Wilde~MoonChild ™
    +8
    This is why its so important Romney doesn't win the election. Can you imagine the yahoos he'd appoint for the SCOTUS?!?!?
  • Lady Wh... Wilde~M... 2012/06/26 20:06:37
    Lady Whitewolf
    +2
    Hear ya Girlie!
  • JaguarSocialist 2012/06/26 14:19:25
    JaguarSocialist
    +6
    If Scalia doesn't understand that Arizona cannot preempt federal law, then he should resign.
  • ehrhornp JaguarS... 2012/06/26 19:53:53
    ehrhornp
    +1
    For someone who is suppose to be "brilliant", he sure wasn't on this latest decision. I think he may be coming down with dementia or something.

    I think he along with the other nuts who stole this country should be impeached and then sent to Gitmo.
  • JaguarS... ehrhornp 2012/06/26 20:51:33
    JaguarSocialist
    +1
    I wouldn't advocate Gitmo for anyone; however, his wording certainly proves he's as backward-thinking as it gets.
  • MsTlynne ehrhornp 2012/06/27 13:39:49
    MsTlynne
    I'm not being mean, but I agree that he appears to be suffering from some mental defect. Something's not right about him.
  • ehrhornp MsTlynne 2012/06/27 15:34:12
    ehrhornp
    He is around 80 I believe. Would not be the first to come down with dementia.
  • MsTlynne ehrhornp 2012/06/27 16:53:34
    MsTlynne
    Not at all. I know someone in her late 40s just diagnosed with it.
  • Steve 2012/06/26 14:15:43
    Steve
    +5
    "[a]s a sovereign, Arizona has the inherent power to exclude persons from its territory." Unbelievable, just unbelievable.

    When I was very young, an old TV show "Candid Camera" with Art Linkletter did an amazing spoof. They set up cops on a roadblock on the border between New York and Connecticut. They told motorists "I'm sorry, Connecticut is full today, you can't come in to Connecticut today." Almost everyone said "oh, ok Officer," and turned around.
  • ProudPr... Steve 2012/06/26 15:15:43
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    I remember that Candid Camera piece, although I think it was Delaware that was closed. One of their better ones.

    Yep - tracked down this article:

    In 1963 on a Sunday, Alan Funt and Camera Camera set up a roadblock on a 2 lane road going into Delaware. They stopped cars with out of state plates and told them "We're sorry, but Delaware is closed today."

    It was one of their better moments.

    http://www.theprobabilist.com... /

    "Candid Camera decided to test the power of authority and the written word. The prank involved setting up a big sign on the border of Pennsylvania and Delaware saying that “Delaware is closed today”. Next to it was a table with a few respectable looking men wearing suits and ties whose job was to tell people that Delaware is under repair, they don’t know the specifics and that the motorists should try again the next day.
    ----
    http://www.sott.net/signs/sig...

    Allen Funt was once asked what was the most disturbing thing he had learned about people in his years of dealing with them through the media. His response was chilling in its ramifications:

    "The worst thing, and I see it over and over, is how easily people can be led by any kind of authority figure, or even the most minimal kinds of authority. A well dressed man walks up the down escalator ...

    I remember that Candid Camera piece, although I think it was Delaware that was closed. One of their better ones.

    Yep - tracked down this article:

    In 1963 on a Sunday, Alan Funt and Camera Camera set up a roadblock on a 2 lane road going into Delaware. They stopped cars with out of state plates and told them "We're sorry, but Delaware is closed today."

    It was one of their better moments.

    http://www.theprobabilist.com... /

    "Candid Camera decided to test the power of authority and the written word. The prank involved setting up a big sign on the border of Pennsylvania and Delaware saying that “Delaware is closed today”. Next to it was a table with a few respectable looking men wearing suits and ties whose job was to tell people that Delaware is under repair, they don’t know the specifics and that the motorists should try again the next day.
    ----
    http://www.sott.net/signs/sig...

    Allen Funt was once asked what was the most disturbing thing he had learned about people in his years of dealing with them through the media. His response was chilling in its ramifications:

    "The worst thing, and I see it over and over, is how easily people can be led by any kind of authority figure, or even the most minimal kinds of authority. A well dressed man walks up the down escalator and most people will turn around and try desperately to go up also... We put up a sign on the road, 'Delaware Closed Today'. Motorists didn't even question it. Instead they asked: 'Is Jersey still open?'"

    http://www.democraticundergro...
    (more)
  • Steve ProudPr... 2012/06/26 15:50:05
    Steve
    +2
    I was writing purely from childhood memory--I'm pleased I got the story's basics mostly right.



    It would take only a handful of SC justices to be ideologues to permit real tyranny in the US.



    Then, things like the Milgram experiment could start happening for real:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  • lstl5 ProudPr... 2012/06/26 16:15:26
    lstl5
    +2
    That is so funny, and so true. I am 66 years old, and it is in my nature and from what I have been taught to respect people of authority, and I still do it, but even I would have to question a whole state being closed. lol
  • ehrhornp ProudPr... 2012/06/27 15:39:43
    ehrhornp
    People have not changed over the years or at least the so called conservative side. They fall for people pushing lies and voodoo economics and still follow them when the joke has been acknowledged.
  • Reichstolz 2012/06/26 14:11:11
    Reichstolz
    +4
    "Complete denial when it comes to the President's many accomplishments has become commonplace"
    That is because this vapid suit has not accomplished anything that is good for the nation.

    Short list
    Unemployment never under 8% during his tenure
    Average net worth for all Americans down 40%
    Health insurance costs rose on average $2,000 per family and expected to rise even more
    3 million people left the workforce
    Granted Amnesty and Work permits(which he has no constitutional authority to grant)for 1.4 million illegals, when the nation is running 8.2% unemployment
    Cheered on a radical muslim take over in Egypt.
    National Debt rose 5 Trillion dollars in under four years, most debt accumulated in any presidential term in US history.
  • Morning... Reichstolz 2012/06/26 14:35:19 (edited)
    Morningstar
    +5
    Reichstolz - You just refuse to look at what Obama has accomplished and the failures you've listed here are either untrue or not attributable to Obama! And you are OFF discussion!
  • GuruA2J... Morning... 2012/06/26 15:17:21
    GuruA2J~#IOKIYAR~612 BLOCKT
    +4
    He's straining that ONE brain cell he has to the max. That's why his responses are so incoherent.
  • ProudPr... Morning... 2012/06/26 15:22:26
    ProudProgressive
    +3
    Wasn't it nice of him to prove my point that the Right Wing has a profound disconnect with reality?
  • Morning... ProudPr... 2012/06/26 15:56:16
    Morningstar
    +3
    Proud - I ask myself why there are so many dilusional right-wingers? Is it that they don't want to think so they merely follow along with their leaders' mantra instead of taking it upon themselves to get informed?
  • Preside... Morning... 2012/06/26 15:39:41
    President Camacho
    He is spot on 100% correct.
  • Lady Wh... Morning... 2012/06/26 20:07:12
    Lady Whitewolf
    agreed
  • Reichstolz Morning... 2012/06/27 03:16:42
    Reichstolz
    There is no accomplishment in his record that benefits Americans.
  • ProudPr... Reichstolz 2012/06/26 15:22:01
    ProudProgressive
    +2
    Thank you for proving my point. The disconnect between the Right Wing and reality has never been so vast.

    Unemployment is down two full points from the Bush highs, and the only reason it isn't lower is Republican obstructionism. Average net worth fell due to the Great Bush Recession, and most of that loss came in the first six months of the President's term, before the stimulus started to stimulate our economy. Health insurance costs have not risen $2000, and thanks to the Affordable Care Act 80% of those costs are now applied to actual medical costs and not to private jets for the CEO. Private sector employment is at the same level it was when the President took office. Public sector employment is down about 700,000 people due to Republican draconian spending cuts directed at actual working Americans. The President did not grant anyone amnesty, and he has full authority to set priorities for the Justice Department and the Immigration Service. The President helped to foster the overthrow of a dictator in Egypt and pave the way for the first free and open elections they've had since before Cleopatra's time. The President has no control over the results of that election. And finally, the President has added less to our national debt since the day he took office (about $1.6 trillion) than the Bush tax cuts to millionaires ALONE, and less than Bush's unpaid for war of lies in Iraq ALONE.

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