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American☆Atheist 2012/06/19 04:52:34
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  • Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/19 16:06:06 (edited)
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    Purple Pinto ~PWCM~JLA
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    This is a classic case of misrepresentation of the facts, apparently. It seems two Representatives were banned from speaking on the subject. I'm not aware of the other Rep's statements, and can only speak to what I heard this woman state.

    She is twisting this situation to make herself appear to be the victim, when in fact she was rude, disrespectful and sophomoric. To accuse the Speaker of the House of being interested in her female parts was way out of line. It's not that she said the word 'vagina' it's that she inferred the Speaker of the House was interested in her's. That's uncalled for, and disrespectful and she deserves to have been censored on the issue if she can't conduct herself any better than that when trying to make her point.

    The other claim she tried to make is that it was because she was Jewish. Both statements are out and out lies.

    OK, I found out why Barb Byrum was also banned. It was because she was trying to pull the 'what's fair for the goose is fair for the gander' thing, which is fine if we're comparing equal situations. Byrum, a democratic Rep. was also against the bill which would have restrictions on abortions. She wanted an amendment to the bill to apply the same restrictions for vasectomies. Ridiculous! The point of the bill was protecting...

    This is a classic case of misrepresentation of the facts, apparently. It seems two Representatives were banned from speaking on the subject. I'm not aware of the other Rep's statements, and can only speak to what I heard this woman state.

    She is twisting this situation to make herself appear to be the victim, when in fact she was rude, disrespectful and sophomoric. To accuse the Speaker of the House of being interested in her female parts was way out of line. It's not that she said the word 'vagina' it's that she inferred the Speaker of the House was interested in her's. That's uncalled for, and disrespectful and she deserves to have been censored on the issue if she can't conduct herself any better than that when trying to make her point.

    The other claim she tried to make is that it was because she was Jewish. Both statements are out and out lies.

    OK, I found out why Barb Byrum was also banned. It was because she was trying to pull the 'what's fair for the goose is fair for the gander' thing, which is fine if we're comparing equal situations. Byrum, a democratic Rep. was also against the bill which would have restrictions on abortions. She wanted an amendment to the bill to apply the same restrictions for vasectomies. Ridiculous! The point of the bill was protecting a fetus - a fertilized egg. It had nothing to do with sterilization surgeries, but she wanted to be certain to get back at the male population. Nifty. Doesn't matter if it's fair or equitable, just so long as the guys feel some pain as a result. Hmmm. Wonder if she was only elected to represent the females in her district?

    So there you have it. These two were shut down for 1) being rude, disrespectful and throwing a backhanded accusation at the Leader of the House and 2) demanding an inappropriate and ridiculous amendment just to get back at the men.
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  • JeffreyyerffejLien 2012/06/19 14:53:49
    fair
    JeffreyyerffejLien
    +3
    all is fair in Love War and Politics
  • TXGirl Jeffrey... 2012/06/19 15:19:04
    TXGirl
    +2
    Politics has NO business in our love lives or in our bodies!!
  • Gary 2012/06/19 14:53:18
    Unfair
    Gary
    +1
    HELL NO.
  • Tony 2012/06/19 14:53:08
    fair
    Tony
    +5
    Question: Was she banned for saying the word vagina or for being a snarky sounding bitch at the end? It would not be the first time a politician (male or female) got banned for being a smart ass.
  • TXGirl Tony 2012/06/19 15:22:07
    TXGirl
    +1
    I have heard the men being snarky, but of course, THEY don't get called "bitch" do they? She had every reason to sound upset - many of us women are very, very upset!!! At least she is up there trying to speak for us as not all of us can get in front of the politicians. What do we call men then, since "bitch" does not apply to them??
  • Bob, th... Tony 2012/06/19 15:53:40
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +4
    that's what I believe...she was being snarky. dems/libs/progs are saying it was the word and that is being deceiving to say the least in this debate....they are very good at lying, deflecting, what the real problem was, the problem was the woman, not the word....
  • SW 2012/06/19 14:52:49
    fair
    SW
    I believe the proper term is "love muffin." I kid I kid....
  • raine 2012/06/19 14:50:57
    Unfair
    raine
    +3
    There you go. Are men trying to put women so low they can not even use proper English when talking? I am sure Vagina is in the dictionary. Do they want women to use childish terms in order to make them look childish. No not fair especially since that was supposed to be an adult group. I wonder if there were any women complaining or just pompous controlling men, the ones that beat their wives and children..
  • Fenris 2012/06/19 14:41:39
    Unfair
    Fenris
    +1
    Weird!
  • RJeffreySavlov 2012/06/19 14:34:31
    Unfair
    RJeffreySavlov
    +3
    Definitely another reason for term limits. When you have legislators who are older than Methuselah , Like Harry Reid and Shelley Berkley of Nevada who have their heads so far up their buts and have been there way too long, these things will happen.
  • twocrows RJeffre... 2012/06/19 14:45:23
    twocrows
    +2
    were Harry Reid and Shelley Berkley present at the time? no?
    did they censure Lisa Brown and Barb Byrum? oh, they didn't?

    so - - then what was their crime that brought on this diatribe? the crime of being Democrats, perhaps?
    funny. you can defend the free speech of 2 Democrats by condemning 2 others who had nothing to do with the incident.
    well, no, it's not funny. it's rather sad, actually.
  • Nona 2012/06/19 14:29:01
    Unfair
    Nona
    +2
    Um....Vagina isn't a bad word. But, if it bothers those stuffy old men so much then there are LOTS of other more colorful euphemisms that can be used in place of it. Next time she should visit the urban dictionary first and pick up a few "male friendly" Synonyms
  • Wild Dog 2012/06/19 14:26:37
  • Queen B Wild Dog 2012/06/19 14:51:49
  • Wild Dog Queen B 2012/06/19 15:19:59
    Wild Dog
    +1
    I've always liked your replies, and am cleaning up spit coffe on this one ,way to go. spilling coffee on keyboard gifs
  • twocrows 2012/06/19 14:21:19
    Unfair
    twocrows
    +2
    First they came for that OTHER person's freedom of speech and I didn't speak because I was afraid I would lose MY freedom of speech . . . .

    oh, wait.
  • Michael Hertel 2012/06/19 14:19:40
    fair
    Michael Hertel
    +5
    Not for saying the word "vigina" but for making it personal.
  • twocrows Michael... 2012/06/19 14:23:31
    twocrows
    +3
    you are aware, are you not, that she was reading a series of letters from her constituents and that LETTER was where the word came from?

    or, maybe you aren't aware of that and are weighing in on an issue you don't know the facts about? could that possibly be?
    nah.
  • Bob, th... twocrows 2012/06/19 15:55:41
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +3
    you are aware that the letter wasn't the problem...but her personal opinion at the end of it....
  • Mel Bob, th... 2012/06/19 19:30:47
    Mel
    +1
    So she's not allowed a personal opinion?
  • twocrows Mel 2012/06/19 20:06:10
    twocrows
    of course not, Mel. she is, after all, a woman! and we all know how hysterical women are, right? how can THEIR opinions be trusted? let the men be the only humans with opinions on such weighty matters as reproduction.

    or - - - - we could always leave them to it and see how well they handle the matter without us. I rather like that idea, myself.
  • Bob, th... Mel 2012/06/19 21:48:14
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +2
    not in parliamentary procedure...you are supposed to keep personal attacks out of the debate....declaring that the speaker was interested in "her" vagina was a tactless, rude, snarky, comment...if she can't play by the rules...then she shouldn't be surprised to get a "time out".
  • twocrows Bob, th... 2012/06/20 22:14:56
    twocrows
    how in the world do you equate what she said with a personal attack?

    meanwhile, I've seen PLENTY of her male counterparts who have attacked their opponents. and they weren't censured.
    by proxy. by sending her party chair to tell her she was being silenced. like the coward he is.

    and, meanwhile, what the house speaker did WAS an attack. on her rights - not to mention on her ability to do the job she was elected to do.

    but hey - she's a woman. so the rules that apply to the her do not apply to the men in that august body, right?
  • Bob, th... twocrows 2012/06/20 22:17:10
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +1
    your outrage is duly noted......it's nonsensical, but it is noted.....have a good day!!
  • MIZ® ₱... Bob, th... 2012/06/21 22:28:54
    MIZ®  ₱д₸Ɽ¡Ö₸ ₩дⱤⱤ¡ÖⱤ   †
    +1
    Not to mention the insinuation of rape... though I do know what she meant.
    Total shock value... typical.

    Hi BOB!
  • Bob, th... MIZ® ₱... 2012/06/22 02:39:20
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +1
    :) HI MIZ!! you get two smiley faces!!
    smiley face
  • MIZ® ₱... Bob, th... 2012/06/23 07:33:56
    MIZ®  ₱д₸Ɽ¡Ö₸ ₩дⱤⱤ¡ÖⱤ   †
    +1
    But... whfff tttsssmmmatttt.. kkkkkkrrrrffffllaaaaakumpttt.... where's the other one!? ://

    J/K ~ I am happy with this one sweetheart!!! ♥♥♥ :D :D :D
  • Bob, th... Mel 2012/06/20 18:28:05
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +1
    read the thread Mel....I've written responses to this line of thinking already....
  • twocrows Bob, th... 2012/06/19 20:09:20
    twocrows
    +1
    actually, I am not aware of any such thing.

    are YOU aware of the fact that the Speaker did not inform the women that they were being silenced? that he gave no reason whatsoever when making the decision? that he sent the minority leader to tell them of it? that he is a coward?

    so - no - I do not know what his motivation was.
    I'm glad for you that you know how to read minds. I flunked that class in school, myself.
  • Bob, th... twocrows 2012/06/20 18:34:35
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +2
    that's how the process works...the majority leader talks to the minority leader...minority leader talks to his party members....it's parliamentary procedure...the minority leader would be pissed off he/she were circumvented in communications....and vice versa...

    Reading minds? No, but Libs/progs are very good at interpreting outrage at speech that wasn't offensive all the time....speaking of interpreting outrage where none should exist is Lawrence O'Donnel being pissed off that Romney's wife rides a horse as her form of therapy in dealing with MS..... or Libs/progs excusing offensive behavior because the offending party is a party member or fellow kool-aid drinker....
  • Michael... twocrows 2012/06/20 10:58:00
    Michael Hertel
    Yes. that was not made clear, thanks.
  • twocrows Michael... 2012/06/19 20:12:59
    twocrows
    +1
    oh, and btw - - there aren't a whole lot of things that are MORE personal. jfwiw.

    I would guess you feel the same way about your penis. now - suppose governments across the nation were legislating against currently legal things you had been allowed to do with it and, suddenly, they were turning those things into crimes.

    do you think you might have something personal to say about that?
    just curious.
  • Bob, th... twocrows 2012/06/20 16:27:09
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +2
    If I said that you were interested in my penis, you would object would you not?
  • MIZ® ₱... Bob, th... 2012/06/21 22:30:21
    MIZ®  ₱д₸Ɽ¡Ö₸ ₩дⱤⱤ¡ÖⱤ   †
    +1
    LOL
    Pretty sneaky, Bob>>.... lolol
  • Bob, th... MIZ® ₱... 2012/06/22 02:46:56
    Bob, the reasonable one
    +1
    heh,heh,heh.....

    I've noticed the lack of a response to that comment....maybe it made an impression.... :)
  • MIZ® ₱... Bob, th... 2012/06/23 07:33:05
  • TimothyBrianFoley 2012/06/19 14:16:24
    fair
    TimothyBrianFoley
    you shouldn't be saying words like vagina those are bad words
  • Queen B Timothy... 2012/06/19 14:52:51
  • twocrows Queen B 2012/06/19 20:02:10
    twocrows
    +1
    unfortunately, I imagine he is. some 36-year-olds have not, obviously, matured beyond the age of 9. so sad.
  • Queen B twocrows 2012/06/19 23:52:46
    Queen B
    Yeah....you see a lot of that on here....lol.

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