SAY WHAT > Should Gang Members Be Banned From Certain Areas?
Christine Lusey
2011/08/18 11:00:00
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Suffolk County, NY, is tired of violence between rival gangs, and they're asking a judge to approve a new strategy: barring gang members from a "safety zone" of two square miles.
Officials say the idea has been implemented successfully in other communities, though the New York State Supreme Court overturned such a ban in New York City in 2000, ruling that gang members had not committed activities dangerous enough that their civil liberties should be infringed upon.
Suffolk plans to use a "gang registry" and, if granted, the measure would bar known members of the Wyandanch Bloods and the Braveheart Bloods from the safety zone. The men would be notified and have the opportunity to prove that they were no longer affiliated with the gang.
“Gangs have the propensity to take over schoolyards, street corners, playgrounds,” says Suffolk County executive Steve Levy. "They do not own those streets. The people of the community own the streets.”
The New York Civil Liberties Union does not expect the judge to approve the measure. “You can’t ban people from public areas,” says Amol Sinha, director of the Suffolk County chapter.
Officials say the idea has been implemented successfully in other communities, though the New York State Supreme Court overturned such a ban in New York City in 2000, ruling that gang members had not committed activities dangerous enough that their civil liberties should be infringed upon.
Suffolk plans to use a "gang registry" and, if granted, the measure would bar known members of the Wyandanch Bloods and the Braveheart Bloods from the safety zone. The men would be notified and have the opportunity to prove that they were no longer affiliated with the gang.
“Gangs have the propensity to take over schoolyards, street corners, playgrounds,” says Suffolk County executive Steve Levy. "They do not own those streets. The people of the community own the streets.”
The New York Civil Liberties Union does not expect the judge to approve the measure. “You can’t ban people from public areas,” says Amol Sinha, director of the Suffolk County chapter.
Read More: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/nyregion/suffolk...
he put them in a woodchipper
There is nothing good that comes out a gang.
One area of the justice system that I think is actually worth the money.
Too bad we spend all our tax money
arresting peaceful pot smokers instead.
They should start thinking about why there are gangs on playgrounds and school yards. Look at the reasons these people even joined gangs. Perhaps find a solution for their drug dealing lifestyle. Get them into councelling. Rejection will have the opposite effect of what they are aiming for, the gangs might stop fighting each other and have a go at the police instead.
Need any other tough issues resolved? :))
Of course we could keep the punk incarcerated when they break the law or allow the right of defence of self and property .
but it wont work in reality in fact saying someone is in a gang and proving it in a court of law with an Attorney defending them is a whole nother thing.
they could end up suing the city for discrimination and violating there constitutional right,s thus bankrupting the system because of this unworkable approach.
Besides hardcore gang members you aren't going to move anyway law or no law they would start shooting at patrol cars from a block away and soon they wouldnt even go in there as the reason for it compared to the danger of it would make it unwarranted or just too stupid in other word,s ...its better to get some dead skunks and throw em everywhere at night and have em picked up in the morning.
If anything, that safety zone will probably have more gang members than any two miles anywhere.
What do these gangs produce besides trouble? I sometimes have to deal with them and the ones I have to deal with are just punks as are their dads and their grandfathers are not much better.
I'd much rather that we ban gang members from everywhere except for six feet below the ground in cemeteries. They will be harmless enough there.
How about we go after all gangs like we did with the police and the feds back in the thirties — with bullets.
Now if they deeded that area to a development company owned by the city and created a membership required status for the area, with published restrictions as to membership, they may get away with it based upon the SCOTUS decision of private membership organizations being able to restict from their membership and use of property people who are not members. (Dale v BSA)
I know, it's a strech but at least worth looking at.
You wanna be a gang banger, do it in the middle of nowhere where you can't hurt anyone but yourself.