Say what? Opinions outside of the USA don't matter on Sodahead?

by Tuulenmäki Posted 2011/07/26 00:12:40

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	Yes they do matter	28 votes	82%
	No they do not matter	6 votes	18%
	It matters if they agree with me	0 votes	0%

Recently many people (all right wing) think people outside of the United States are worthless scums, and their opinion does not matter. Many Sodaheads on this poll think so. I think it is because foreigners do not agree with them. The link for the poll is below. Notice, I was blocked from it for not living in the USA.

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Shawna 2011/07/26 04:26:12

Yes they do matter

+6
I have run into this opinion too. Basically it is because the right wing perspective in the US is more right wing than any other other western country so they feel threatened. I am called a socialist and a communist because I am Canadian and nearly any Canadian is more liberal than a conservative American.
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Kat 2011/08/18 06:36:08

Yes they do matter

Wow, what biggotted stuff. I mean you, stereotyping right wingers as biggotted against any non-US opinions. I wonder whether you see the comedic irony in your stereotyping others to whine about other's stereotyping you?

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Wrinkleranch 2011/08/16 01:40:48

Yes they do matter

Perhaps they are more objective because they are less involved. They are on the outside looking in.

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Maggie 2011/08/05 13:48:55

Yes they do matter

They are still people, and even though they might not have freedom of speech doesn't mean their opinions are worthless

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Cheryl 2011/07/26 21:53:33

No they do not matter

+2
I run into this all the time, especially being an American born Canadian............I've come to the conclusion that they have nothing with which to win their argument so they throw the patriotism garbage at me.

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Tuulenmäki to Cheryl 2011/07/26 23:03:52

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You have the wrong answer I think. Opinions do matter outside of the USA, and that is what you are trying to say I think.

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Cheryl to Tuulenmäki 2011/07/27 21:32:28

+1
yes, I realized that after I answered but it was too late!! LOL

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Vive le... to Tuulenmäki 2011/07/31 22:00:47 (edited)

+1
One thing I realized in the wake of what occurred in Norway. During times of economic hardship, xenophobia tends to rear its ugly head. So that could help to explain some of it.

Think 1920s USA and the KKK.

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Commrade#371 2011/07/26 14:55:44

Yes they do matter

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As I have read through the other posts on this blog I do see where both sides are coming from. But I however think that even if it holds no relevance to someone of a foreign country, their opinions do matter. We require help, and most of the time its right next door.

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Shawna 2011/07/26 04:26:12

Yes they do matter

+6
I have run into this opinion too. Basically it is because the right wing perspective in the US is more right wing than any other other western country so they feel threatened. I am called a socialist and a communist because I am Canadian and nearly any Canadian is more liberal than a conservative American.

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Tuulenmäki to Shawna 2011/07/26 08:08:51

+3
Exactly.

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Ghostfi... to Shawna 2011/07/27 02:30:39

We don't feel threatened I feel insulted a person not from this country want to tell me how to fix things or what our problem is it is simply rude.

Also this is an adversarial site don't expect someone to be nice to you just because you are from a foreign country. we don't need outsiders telling us how to fix out internal issues.

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Tuulenmäki to Ghostfi... 2011/07/27 02:55:18

+1
We are simply stating what we think you should do.

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Ghostfi... to Tuulenmäki 2011/07/27 02:59:33

And I find that rude. I won't tell you how to pickle fish you don't tell me how to save my country.

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Tuulenmäki to Ghostfi... 2011/07/27 03:01:40

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Since when is saying "I think you should do this" rude? I would not care if you told me what you think Finland should be like, I would treat it as another opinion.

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Kat to Tuulenmäki 2011/08/18 07:04:40

Since when is saying "I think you should do this" rude?
Pretty much every time its unsolicited. Telling others what to do is not your or anyone's perogative.

Would you find it rude if I told you I think Finland should abolish their football program following the Zambian scandal? Or would it be rude to say I think you should have impeached the entire Finnish Office of Finance following your 2007 elections? You might not, but I would. I'm not Finnish, I don't have a stake in your country or the way it's run and if my 'advice' is not asked for, it's not my indisputable right to give it.
However, I always find it entertaining to hear an outsider's perspective. Some times there are constructive things in the reasoning, sometimes there are genuine searches for understanding, but unfortunately a lot of the time there are just people with an overwhelming need to push their nose in someone else's business and force their unqualified and unweighted opinions down your throat.
In short, the less skin in the game you have, the less weight of your argument.

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Shawna to Ghostfi... 2011/07/27 05:05:52

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I expect people to be able to have a discussion and civilly disagree. Anyone who cannot have a discussion using some basic manners is rather pathetic.

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Brad Ha... to Shawna 2011/08/14 21:34:58

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Pathetic? Oh, you mean like you.

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bob h. to Ghostfi... 2011/08/06 15:05:59

Obviously, some one has to.

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Viper Two Six 2011/07/26 04:02:06

Yes they do matter

+1
Here's my question to you though, since you don't live here and see and experience what we do in person what makes you qualified to give answers about our country other than what you see on your tv and on the internet?

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Red Rose to Viper T... 2011/07/26 11:17:57

+2
I would say the human condition is global. Our opinions are formed by our experiences, but their applications are limitless. Our fresh eyes should be welcomed.

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Viper T... to Red Rose 2011/07/26 14:29:19 (edited)

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It amazes me how people from other countries love to judge us and make remarks about us is all I'm saying. I mean I don't go on internet looking for social sites from other countries looking to talk about them, I think a lot of these people should just worry about their own country and not instead of prying their noses in ours.

I've never gone on someone elses thread and told them what I think of their country or degrade the people that live in it. Everyone wants to know what the US is up to, People talk all kind of crap about us but yet they wanna be like us and know whats going on so bad.

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Cheryl to Viper T... 2011/07/26 21:56:49

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I would agree except for the fact that the US likes to "talk all kind of crap" to use your words about other countries themselves. Don't dish it out if you can't take it, thats my opinion. Canada has been on the receiving end of "all kind of crap" from the US for awhile now, so guess what they can make comments back.

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Red Rose to Viper T... 2011/07/27 11:40:07

Sodahead is a global network, and if you must know I came on this site in the first place to self-publish quotes and a found a world where I can share in ethical debates of the kind that are not offered in my community.

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Ghostfi... to Red Rose 2011/07/27 02:34:00

SO we can come to your country and restructure it to make it better because we know better from our world experience?

what hubris you have.

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Red Rose to Ghostfi... 2011/07/27 11:42:26

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I am not doing anything to your country, merely expressing an opinion. You are free to do the same about mine.

Yes yes, I am am prideful and I will never apologise for it. In the modern day low self-esteem is rampant. It should be the sin, not pride. It causes so much undue suffering.

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16 2011/07/26 04:01:13

Yes they do matter

+1
All opinions matter.

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Ghostfi... to 16 2011/07/27 02:35:09

nope

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16 to Ghostfi... 2011/07/27 02:39:08

Well, your partially right.

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Erin 2011/07/26 03:59:30

Yes they do matter

i dont answer questions about the US anyway.

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Ghostfinder 2011/07/26 03:37:05

No they do not matter

Don't think people outside the US are scum; however their opinions about US centric matters don't matter. When the incident happened in Norway it was asked about what should happen or what should be done. My answer was and still is it is a Norwegian issue and for the people of that country to decide. When the issue is about the US or US policy or politics I could care less what a non-citizen has to say. I might read it but as far as having any validity for action, non-citizens opinions just don't matter.

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Shawna to Ghostfi... 2011/07/26 04:29:05 (edited)

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We can learn from others even when they don't live in our own country. How they see us, how they have experienced similar problems and any opinions not only don't hurt you, they may offer an insight you have not had before. As a Canadian I am actually directly affected by the American economy. As a neighbour and ally I do have an interest in what is going in your nation. I don't have a vote but I certainly have a persepective AND a legitimate interest.

Oh never mind.....I just read further and discovered you are an obnoxious little prick. I won't bother to have a conversation with you.

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Ghostfi... to Shawna 2011/07/26 04:37:16

and they say you couldn't learn....

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Tuulenmäki to Ghostfi... 2011/07/27 03:02:41

+1
You really are a little prick.

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Ghostfi... to Tuulenmäki 2011/07/27 03:24:15

great opinion, I'll consider it.

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Brad Ha... to Shawna 2011/08/14 21:39:37

+1
Now this is pathetic. "Little Prick" my my.

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USAISME 2011/07/26 02:45:49

Yes they do matter

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I don't mind hearing the opinion of folks outside of this country. However, I do find that many from outside of the U.S. don't fully understand what is really happening here and we don't know what your news organizations are really telling you. I do pay attention to what happens elsewhere in the world and often wonder why the people from other countries or thier governments think the way they do. However, we are from different cultures and outsiders really do not understand the dynamics or the truths about American society or the true nature of the political parties any more than we fully understand yours. During these hard times, we have an administration that is pushing a policy which only helps a small percentage of the people, but does little to pull this country out of the mess it is in. The people, many of whom are on this site, are tired of the administration's spin on the truth. Most of us are sick and tired of the selfishness and arrogance of Obama and the foolishness of many of the members of his administration. Additionally, yes, we are a capitalist society and some foreigners think that it is wrong to be so. However, capitalism creates growth, socialism/liberalism stifles it much like many socialist/communist countries have found out. We don't want Obama's ...

I don't mind hearing the opinion of folks outside of this country. However, I do find that many from outside of the U.S. don't fully understand what is really happening here and we don't know what your news organizations are really telling you. I do pay attention to what happens elsewhere in the world and often wonder why the people from other countries or thier governments think the way they do. However, we are from different cultures and outsiders really do not understand the dynamics or the truths about American society or the true nature of the political parties any more than we fully understand yours. During these hard times, we have an administration that is pushing a policy which only helps a small percentage of the people, but does little to pull this country out of the mess it is in. The people, many of whom are on this site, are tired of the administration's spin on the truth. Most of us are sick and tired of the selfishness and arrogance of Obama and the foolishness of many of the members of his administration. Additionally, yes, we are a capitalist society and some foreigners think that it is wrong to be so. However, capitalism creates growth, socialism/liberalism stifles it much like many socialist/communist countries have found out. We don't want Obama's socialist agenda. The problem with capitalism in this country is that some corporations, many of them being of the banking industry, have been unregulated and greed allowed them to be the great part of the mess we are in now. The bottom line is that some regulation is good, total regulation over an economy is bad. Getting past that, the reason why someone like yourself will be met with contempt is because many outsiders just flat do not understand what is happening here. Putting it simply, it's like a stranger who is walking down the street and walks by a house where a family is fighting. He knows nothing about the family, but walks in the front door and begins to tell them what thier problems are. I hope this makes sense, because it's exactly what the nature of an opinion from an outsider tends to be.
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say what? 2011/07/26 02:16:07 (edited)

No they do not matter

I don't care what non US citizens think about our politics. I don't care what they think about our weather. Or our food,cars,shoes,habits,langua... etc.. I can't stand foreigners opinions on anything.... Is that what you wanted to hear? Or did you want someone to kiss your butt?

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Tuulenmäki to say what? 2011/07/26 08:12:27 (edited)

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Painu helvettiin, olet paskiainen!

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Vive le Canada Libre!!! 2011/07/26 02:15:53

Yes they do matter

+1
When they effect us then our opinion matters.

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Ghostfi... to Vive le... 2011/07/26 03:39:12

when Canada can defend themselves then your opinion might be worth listening to.

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