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SATELLITE INDICATES 23-YEAR GLOBAL COOLING. Are you still sure about Global Warming?

lady bear May 19, 2008 04:54:17

SATELLITE INDICATES 23-YEAR GLOBAL COOLING
May 5, 2008

BY DENNIS T. AVERY



CHURCHVILLE VA—Now it’s not just the sunspots that predict a 23-year global cooling. The new Jason oceanographic satellite shows that 2007 was a “cool” La Nina year—but Jason also says something more important is at work: The much larger and more persistent Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) has turned into its cool phase, telling us to expect moderately lower global temperatures until 2030 or so.

For the past century at least, global temperatures have tended to mirror the 20-to 30-year warmings and coolings of the north-central Pacific Ocean. We don’t know just why, but the pattern of the last century is clear: the earth warmed from about 1915 to1940, while the PDO was also warming (1925 to 46). The earth cooled from 1940 to 1975, while the PDO was cooling (1946 to 1977). The strong global warming from 1976 to 1998 was accompanied by a strong and almost-constant warming of the north-central Pacific. Ancient tree rings in Baja California and Mexico show there have been 11 such PDO shifts since 1650, averaging 23 years on length.

Researchers discovered the PDO only recently—in 1996—while searching for the reason salmon numbers had declined sharply in the Columbia River after 1977. The salmon catch record for the past 100 years gave the answer—shifting Pacific Ocean currents. The PDO favors the salmon from the Columbia for about 25 years at a time, and then the salmon from the Gulf of Alaska, but the two fisheries never thrive at the same time. Something in the PDO favors the early development of the salmon smolts from one region or the other. Other fish, such as halibut, sardines, and anchovies follow similar shifts in line with the PDO.

The PDO seems to be driven by the huge Aleutian Low in the Arctic—but we don’t know what controls the Aleutian Low. Nonetheless, 22.5-year “double sunspot cycles” have been identified in South African rainfall, Indian monsoons, Australian droughts, and rains in the United States’ far southwest as well. These cycles argue that the sun, not CO2, controls the earth’s temperatures.

Dr. Henrik Svensmark’s recent experiments at the Danish Space Research Institute seem to show that the earth’s temperatures are importantly affected by the low, wet clouds that deflect more or less solar heat back into space. The number of such clouds is affected, in turn, by more or fewer cosmic rays hitting the earth. The number of earthbound cosmic rays depends on the extent of the giant magnetic wind thrown out by the sun.

All of this defies the “consensus” that human-emitted carbon dioxide has been responsible for our global warming. But the evidence for man-made warming has never been as strong as its Green advocates maintained. The earth’s warming from 1915 to 1940 was just about as strong as the “scary” 1975 to 1998 warming in both scope and duration—and occurred too early to be blamed on human-emitted CO2. The cooling from 1940 to 1975 defied the Greenhouse Theory, occurring during the first big surge of man-made greenhouse emissions. Most recently, the climate has stubbornly refused to warm since 1998, even though human CO2 emissions have continued to rise strongly.

The Jason satellite is an updated and more-accurate version of the Poseidon satellite that has been monitoring the oceans since 1992, picking up ocean wind speeds, wave heights, and sea level changes. Jason is run by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory and a French team.

How many years of declining world temperature would it take now—in the wake of the ten-year non-warming since 1998—to break up Al Gore’s “climate change consensus”?

DENNIS T. AVERY is a senior fellow for the Hudson Institute in Washington, DC and is the Director for the Center for Global Food Issues. (www.cgfi.org) He was formerly a senior analyst for the Department of State. He is co-author, with S. Fred Singer, of Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Hundred Years, Readers may write him at PO Box 202, Churchville, VA 2442 or email to cgfi@hughes.net

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  • +13 lady bear May 19, 2008 04:59:18
    lady bear

    No

    I never was convinced that it is what Al Gore and his green partners said it is. Too many scientists have been proving his findings wrong. There have been quite a few groups of scientists that have been proving that the earth has for a fact been cooling. All the panic and hysteria that Gore has caused is for nothing more than to fill is wallet.
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  • +1
    Icedragon1969 August 20, 2008 04:09:36
    Icedragon1969

    Undecided

    As this very paper admits, we're dealing with far too dynamic a system with far too many free variables and far too much energy to make anything resembling accurate predictions for the time being.
  • +1
    Tracy June 26, 2008 00:24:51
    Tracy

    Undecided

    I'm voting for cooler!!!! Please? undecided voting cooler
  • +1
    [Brii Monster] May 26, 2008 06:25:05
    [Brii Monster]

    No

    Every 6 months they decide that we have global warming, and the following 6 months they tell us its global cooling.

    i think these people are just confused about the difference between summer and winter.
  • +1
    mikebyrd May 25, 2008 05:28:02
    mikebyrd

    No

    moderated...
  • +1
    Nate SD May 24, 2008 19:16:17
    Nate SD

    Yes

    Dumb.
  • irish May 24, 2008 13:43:33
    irish

    Yes

    to assume that human activities have no impact on the earth is just burying your head in the sand.
  • +2
    SARAH PALIN FOR WASILLA DOG... May 24, 2008 13:22:50
    SARAH PALIN FOR WASILLA DOG CATCHER ~ 2012

    Yes

    It's called "Global Climate Change".....which you just proved to be true.

    Thanks for spreading the word.
  • +1
    Anouser "In Flying Spaghett... May 22, 2008 12:32:20
    Anouser "In Flying Spaghetti Monster we trust"

    Undecided

    I have more concern of the shrinking middle class in America than global warming.
  • +2 / -1
    mk, Smartass Oracle May 21, 2008 23:49:17
    mk, Smartass Oracle

    No

    Al Gore is an idiot.

  • +1 / -1
    Kiosk Kid May 21, 2008 21:44:12
    Kiosk Kid

    No

    I have wondered why Al Gore won’t debate the issue in a televised national debate. His attitude has been case closed, I just spew my propaganda, and if anyone disagrees with it, then they are a bad person.

    I have wondered why we haven’t seen any Hurricanes hit the U.S., let alone Katrina size hurricanes since 2004. After all, Al Gore blamed Katrina on Global Warming and predicted more frequent Hurricanes. Where are the Hurricanes?

    I have wondered how Al Gore can predict 33 ft sea levels in thirty year when he can’t get tomorrow temperature correct. I would bet Al Gore ten dollars a day that he can’t accurately predict the high and low temperature of New York City, providing he would bet for 365 days. I would win 95 percent of the bets.

    I have wondered why so many of the countries that signed the Kyoto treaty had no responsibility to reduce CO2. If Global warming is such a disaster why wouldn’t China have a responsibility? Instead they are currently building 50 new old fashion coal fired plants to produce electricity in a single year. China certainly knows how to produce clean nuclear plants if the government really cared about CO2.

    I think Global Warming is just a tax scheme. There is a tax on corporations which is passed on to the citizens which used their products. T...
    I have wondered why Al Gore won’t debate the issue in a televised national debate. His attitude has been case closed, I just spew my propaganda, and if anyone disagrees with it, then they are a bad person.

    I have wondered why we haven’t seen any Hurricanes hit the U.S., let alone Katrina size hurricanes since 2004. After all, Al Gore blamed Katrina on Global Warming and predicted more frequent Hurricanes. Where are the Hurricanes?

    I have wondered how Al Gore can predict 33 ft sea levels in thirty year when he can’t get tomorrow temperature correct. I would bet Al Gore ten dollars a day that he can’t accurately predict the high and low temperature of New York City, providing he would bet for 365 days. I would win 95 percent of the bets.

    I have wondered why so many of the countries that signed the Kyoto treaty had no responsibility to reduce CO2. If Global warming is such a disaster why wouldn’t China have a responsibility? Instead they are currently building 50 new old fashion coal fired plants to produce electricity in a single year. China certainly knows how to produce clean nuclear plants if the government really cared about CO2.

    I think Global Warming is just a tax scheme. There is a tax on corporations which is passed on to the citizens which used their products. Then just follow the money. It goes to wealth transfer program at least the part that doesn’t go to Al Gore’s pockets.

    There is one consolation; the self named Communist party of Sweden which appointed all six members of the Noble Piece prize committee was tossed in the street. So maybe we won’t get another Al Gore or Jimmy Carter winning the Nobel Pease prize but on the other hand, the panel might take a while to replace.
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  • Arel May 21, 2008 14:30:59
    Arel

    Undecided

    They say that the earth has been cooling for the last 7 years, but scientists are also saying that global warming has created the global cooling we are experiencing now. It has to do with the circulation of cool and warm waters in the ocean.
  • +2
    Nowonmai May 21, 2008 11:59:45
    Nowonmai

    Yes

    Australia is in the grip of the worst drought, heat waves, rivers drying up than in the past 150 years. Cooling? If this is cooling, I would have to see what you consider a heat wave.
  • +1
    Captain America May 21, 2008 07:13:25 (edited)
    Captain America

    Yes

    Global warming it is not, but it is.

    I think what is really going on is that on a 12 month cycle the winter will push to 6 months and the summer six months.

    So spring will be way way longer than it is now, and the same with fall, making global warming and global cooling appear to be happening at the same time. because if you measure cold against cold and hot against hot without considering the whole temp as a mean value your missing the point.

    If we are in a long winter and just as summer arives if the earth burps up a volcanic eruption that is bigger than average during the wrong season the Earth will simply have no summer for year, and that will kind of freeze things. And if the burp is big enough, watch out!

    It happened in 1816 , and it was called the year without summer.

    So imagine addint global cooling and so colder winter, a volcanic event that shuts off summer, then a colder winter still,....and how many years do you think it will take to correct the climate and recover?????
    Try 130 in 1816, but what about now?

    But hey, your all geniuses right and way too smart to be fooled, ignore the ice caps melting and dont see things holisticly. Meaning global warming also means global cooling, just ignore everything and you will be juuuuuust fine!
  • +2 / -1
    TJR May 21, 2008 01:02:45
    TJR

    No

    Al Gore is a dork. Make him give back his award.
  • +1 / -1
    lady bear TJR May 21, 2008 01:21:04
    lady bear
    OH how I agree.
  • +1
    Icedrag... TJR August 20, 2008 04:12:54
    Icedragon1969
    That's true even without his statements about climate change. He should stick to politics, because he definitely knows nothing about science. Oh wait! He doesn't know anything about politics apparently either!
  • +2 / -1
    Duck May 20, 2008 20:30:24 (edited)
    Duck

    No

    The warming we had was linked to solar activity, just as it is on the planet Mars... so Al Gore has never explained how human activity made it warmer on both planets... cyclic warming and cooling is the norm.

    I am more concerned about global stupidity.
  • +1
    Radlad May 20, 2008 19:02:09
    Radlad

    Undecided

    I never believed in global warming in the first place. The main reason is algore. The knucklehead is a liar and a moron. Why anyone would listen to a liar and a moron is beyond me. Either they are incredibly stupid or monumentally naive...........................

    This whole global warming bovine excrement was a scam from the git go. One hugh conjob to separate us from more of our money in taxes, liberties, and freedoms. I don't care how guilty you liberals are about anything and everything (which explains why obummer ..er obama a nobody from no where, with no experience is your front runner) but you are dragging the rest of us down with ya'............................

    Ya'all remember enron? This cap and trade trick is what enron was hoping for. No wonder the government put 'em outta business. Billions if not trillions of dollars to be made. The U.S. government thought that money shouldn't be going to a private company. But to us.
  • nightm4825 In god we trust May 20, 2008 17:51:23
    nightm4825 In god we trust

    No

    haha
  • Idontcare May 20, 2008 13:58:34
    Idontcare

    Undecided

    enh i could care less
  • +3
    LPE May 20, 2008 09:49:03
    LPE

    Yes

    I didn't read the above, I apologize... BUT, I think I can still comment based on the question:
    Screw Al Gore and all the distractions his global warming theory has created.
    People; get real... pollution is a problem; it's in our air, oceans and land. Quit this childish debate over the question of our impact on global warming. If we clean up our act, literally, we'll know after the fact if we've made any changes in the temps.
  • +3
    Warren ... LPE May 20, 2008 13:13:06
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    But it isn't Al Gore's theory. It is science.
  • +1
    LPE Warren ... May 20, 2008 13:23:57
    LPE
    Either way... I don't care!
    My point is forget the argument, clean up pollution, and if we are contributing to global warming it will be fixed... if not, we'll still be so much better off.
    I would have expected An Inconvenient Truth to make a positive impact, but it seems as if people have turned away from the general topic of pollution to argue the facts he presents. It completely frustrates me. It seems as if the big picture is just lost in the argument.
  • +2
    Warren ... LPE May 20, 2008 13:37:38
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    I agree we ought to be doing more, regardless. But we won't agree what the solution is if we don't agree what the problem is. The nominees of both major political parties in the U.S. and heads of state from around the world agree AGW is a problem. It is not bout politics, except for elements of the right wing fringe. Carbon cap and trade or better catalytic converters? Each solves a different problem.
  • +1
    Duck Warren ... May 20, 2008 20:53:46
    Duck
    Junk science.
  • +2
    steve May 20, 2008 05:15:45
    steve

    Yes

    So sad that this is the evidence used to dismiss thousands of peer reviewed journal articles.
  • +3
    chainsaw steve May 20, 2008 11:38:27
    chainsaw
    This petition has been signed by over 31,000 American scientists.

    "We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

    There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."

    http://www.oism.org/pproject/
  • +2
    steve chainsaw May 20, 2008 14:19:01
    steve
    First off 31,000?
    Ok thats funny. First off do you really think there are 31,000 climatologists?
    because if you do I have a bridge somewhere you might wish to buy. :)
    Though it is hard to find the exact data the department of labor has about 18,000 phsyics jobs reported in 2005. I am assuming climatologists are not outnumbering physicists so that is almost every climatologist or geologist signing that petition!!!!

    Did you see the link where you too could be a "scientist" and sign the petition?
    Petitions are not science either; this is though:
    lets look at what is science:
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...
    here is one specifically dealing with the limited cooling
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...

    ok if you read those articles one thing to notice is that they are all peer reviewed journals
    This is where actual science is published.
    First off 31,000?
    Ok thats funny. First off do you really think there are 31,000 climatologists?
    because if you do I have a bridge somewhere you might wish to buy. :)
    Though it is hard to find the exact data the department of labor has about 18,000 phsyics jobs reported in 2005. I am assuming climatologists are not outnumbering physicists so that is almost every climatologist or geologist signing that petition!!!!

    Did you see the link where you too could be a "scientist" and sign the petition?
    Petitions are not science either; this is though:
    lets look at what is science:
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...
    here is one specifically dealing with the limited cooling
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/r...

    ok if you read those articles one thing to notice is that they are all peer reviewed journals
    This is where actual science is published.
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  • +2
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum May 20, 2008 04:55:27
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum

    Yes

    Right wing think tanks cherry picking data. Who cares?

  • +5
    Roberto-Pro-America-Anti Obama May 20, 2008 03:04:09
    Roberto-Pro-America-Anti Obama

    No

    Well, I'm sure you know that the Gore'rs are now calling it "Global Climate Change", not Global Warming" as they pick our pockets to cover all potentialities.
  • +2
    Sister Jean May 20, 2008 02:44:08
    Sister Jean

    Undecided

    coolest Spring here in years..am still using
  • +4
    mary May 20, 2008 02:41:40
    mary

    No

    Never bought into global goring.
  • +7
    jrtmanmd May 20, 2008 01:52:23
    jrtmanmd

    No

    As I've said before, the only global warming is from Al's mouth! LOL

  • +4
    aace May 20, 2008 01:51:19 (edited)
    aace

    Undecided

    moderated...
  • +2
    lady bear aace May 20, 2008 01:53:19
    lady bear
    The sad part is a good bit of those who fell for it refuse to believe anything different. They are still behind the moron.
  • +2
    aace lady bear May 20, 2008 01:55:18
    aace
    moderated...
  • +3 / -1
    Janet May 20, 2008 01:03:24
    Janet

    No

    Are you implying that Al Gore and the caring environmentalists may have been a bit dishonest about the evidence? I thought Al got the Nobel.
  • +5 / -1
    lady bear Janet May 20, 2008 01:09:45
    lady bear
    Not implying flat out saying it. Al Gore has done a great BS to the world. How or why the hell he got the Noble prize is beyond me. It is also coming out that he is promoting certain green companies turns out he has quite the stock portfolio with them. Go figure.
  • +5 / -1
    Janet lady bear May 20, 2008 01:16:04
    Janet
    He is one of the best snake oil salesman I have ever heard. He was able to "spin" the global warming hoax to the world by the main stream media. He is an alarmist and has made millions off of this hoax. We have had an extremely cold spring here and it seems funny that you never hear about this.
  • +3
    lady bear Janet May 20, 2008 01:27:34
    lady bear
    I love the picture. Gotta love it. I agree with you totaly on the snake oil salesman. Kind of wonder if he isn't trying to get the people for his losing the election for Pres. Gotta get even they was mean to me.
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