What use would a Christian ever have for a gun anyway?
Offense? No, "He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword."
Defense? No, "Turn the other cheek."
The only other option I see is "Being a dangerously hypocritical psychopath."
Don
Satanic Treatment At Christian Camp For Not Wanting To Shoot a Firearm?
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2012/04/21 06:59:54
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For identity protection...the parents of this incident allowed me to rewrite their story of their son's torment in a Christian camp without using there real names or the name of the camp because it's all going to court.
When Harry and Sally sent their 11-year-old son to Camp in the mid west of the Bible belt, they expected the boy's summer stay would be a 'positive, Christian-based experience.' In fact, the camp itself notes that 'Christ is first' and that it operates as 'an arm of the local church in which a Bible-centered program is used to develop camper spirituality.'
However the couple didn't realize guns were a big part of this camp. According to the a federal lawsuit, things didn't work out for young James in this Christian Camp. Instead, the boy's parents allege in their complaint to the Court, he was subjected to an assortment of 'inhumane, degrading, and criminal conduct' during a one-week stay in the summer of 2010.
Among 19 separate indignities cited in the married couples complaint was their son, James had to endure wedgies, was 'kicked in the privates,' had his camera smashed, got dunked headfirst in a toilet, while being penis smacked by some in his face... and if all that wasn't enough ...he was tied to a tether ball pole ...all this because he basically said guns were not a Christian thing to do.
The camp had a course in rifle and pistol shooting to learn how to shoot targets and learn skills in hunting legal game such as deer and rabbits and defending one's self with a gun....( sounds nuts if you ask me ).... James complained to the staff and told them guns are not right for kids to play with.
Of course the older teen counselors he complained to called him a Pussy and a faggot and made fun of him and that set the other adolescent boys against him with all the devilish acts and name calling that were described earlier.
The lawsuit, which does not specify monetary damages beyond 6 figures, contends that James was tormented by young fellow campers and older teen counselors.
As a result of the camp's negligence, the parents charge, their son has suffered hurt feelings, mental anguish, and a serious disruption of his faith in Christ.
Furthermore James comes from a Liberal Family who are of the Christian faith. They are Episcopalians. No where were they ever taught that guns were a part of the Christian Faith.
But in the Conservative world of Christianity...Guns are closer to God then Jesus is....that's the way it appears. The right totes nothing but God and guns.
What kind of nonsense is this? A Gun camp posing as a Christian camp for young boys?..and if a boy thinks it wrong he should suffer humiliation and physical degrading abuses?
Is this how the Christian conservatives teach their kids about God?...to use guns? Is this a good Christian Camp?
When Harry and Sally sent their 11-year-old son to Camp in the mid west of the Bible belt, they expected the boy's summer stay would be a 'positive, Christian-based experience.' In fact, the camp itself notes that 'Christ is first' and that it operates as 'an arm of the local church in which a Bible-centered program is used to develop camper spirituality.'
However the couple didn't realize guns were a big part of this camp. According to the a federal lawsuit, things didn't work out for young James in this Christian Camp. Instead, the boy's parents allege in their complaint to the Court, he was subjected to an assortment of 'inhumane, degrading, and criminal conduct' during a one-week stay in the summer of 2010.
Among 19 separate indignities cited in the married couples complaint was their son, James had to endure wedgies, was 'kicked in the privates,' had his camera smashed, got dunked headfirst in a toilet, while being penis smacked by some in his face... and if all that wasn't enough ...he was tied to a tether ball pole ...all this because he basically said guns were not a Christian thing to do.
The camp had a course in rifle and pistol shooting to learn how to shoot targets and learn skills in hunting legal game such as deer and rabbits and defending one's self with a gun....( sounds nuts if you ask me ).... James complained to the staff and told them guns are not right for kids to play with.
Of course the older teen counselors he complained to called him a Pussy and a faggot and made fun of him and that set the other adolescent boys against him with all the devilish acts and name calling that were described earlier.
The lawsuit, which does not specify monetary damages beyond 6 figures, contends that James was tormented by young fellow campers and older teen counselors.
As a result of the camp's negligence, the parents charge, their son has suffered hurt feelings, mental anguish, and a serious disruption of his faith in Christ.
Furthermore James comes from a Liberal Family who are of the Christian faith. They are Episcopalians. No where were they ever taught that guns were a part of the Christian Faith.
But in the Conservative world of Christianity...Guns are closer to God then Jesus is....that's the way it appears. The right totes nothing but God and guns.
What kind of nonsense is this? A Gun camp posing as a Christian camp for young boys?..and if a boy thinks it wrong he should suffer humiliation and physical degrading abuses?
Is this how the Christian conservatives teach their kids about God?...to use guns? Is this a good Christian Camp?
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CREW grand 2012/04/21 17:04:10
Just goes to show the nuts in this country.
The camp obviously fails on several levels as be Christian. They are SUPPOSED to be setting a Christ-like example for others, which is apparently alien to this lot but antagonistic.
I hope the camp lose the last suit with maybe some criminal charges pressed and major damages awarded, they deserve it big time.
By them not stopping it is just as bad as participating in it...No need to be so snide when you're the ONE really wrong.
We both know bulling isn't a Christian value...but that wasn't taught in this christian camp....
I wasn't being snide, cop on.
And I don't think you're getting the point. They didn't go out and specifically bully that boy, they were at fault with neglect, maybe, but they can't have eyes on everyone all the time. So the camp needs some improvements, that doesn't mean they should have to pay the family and go along their merry way. Not having eyes on them does not mean that they were condoning what happened, and so your point is simply wrong.
Any document from me will be looked at by you like that anyway....that's the life of a right wing sheepe...
Having said that, to the post at hand:
This story about this boy leaves me with a few questions.
Were the parents aware of the fact that guntraining would be part of the activities in that camp or did that come as a total surprise??
Wasn't there another option for those that didn't want to paticipate gun training?
A Christian camp and gun training is something that does not combine at all!
My symphaty goes to the boy!
He endured early in life the abuse a person gets whennot doing that what everybody does just because they are the majority and they say so.
He stood his ground!
He must have been afraid, but being afraid didn't hinder him to show much courage.
I hope his parents are proud of him
“The one thing that doesn't abide by majority rule is a person's conscience"
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“I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others.”
Thomas Jefferson (American 3rd US President (1801-09). Author of the Declaration of Independence. (1762-1826)
Offense? No, "He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword."
Defense? No, "Turn the other cheek."
The only other option I see is "Being a dangerously hypocritical psychopath."
Don