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Santorum a "Progressive Conservative??? " WTH?

steven 2012/02/15 00:37:54
What the heck is a 'progressive conservative'? Is this guy trying to be all things to all people? To fool all the people? Doesn't he know what Lincoln said about that? I realize it was an article from 1990, but can't he narrow down a bit more what his ideology is? The name itself is an OXYMORON! And maybe the man is, too. At least half of that may apply. I think his nephew called it pretty well. This guy isn't fit for office if he can't state clearly what he stands for. 'Progressive' is associated with Socialism today. And if he has to combine both polar opposites into one label to confuse, mislead or pacify voters, then he is anything but conservative. He scares me. I don't trust him with my liberties. Ron Paul has integrity, like him or not. Santorum does not.

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  • Swany 2012/02/15 00:56:44
    Swany
    +7
    I looked up santorum on google. Neither progressive or conservative was mentioned. animated laughing

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  • Nina WGN 2012/02/15 18:01:25
    Nina
    oops didnt mean to give thumbs up on that one as we differ on term progerssive
  • steven WGN 2012/02/16 01:39:01
    steven
    +1
    I agree he is regressive, but socialism is not a move forward. Name a socialist nation that prospered without stealling all it could from the people and any industry that provided jobs.
  • WGN steven 2012/02/16 03:10:58
    WGN
    But progressive is not a synonym for socialism. Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive and had nothing to do with socialism.
    And the answer is Sweden.
  • Tinka123 WGN 2012/02/16 03:18:30 (edited)
    Tinka123
    According to today's Prog constituents it is:


    Whoops...
  • WGN Tinka123 2012/02/16 03:28:48
    WGN
    Just another bunch of dust in the wind. I have seen stuff like this every few years starting in the 1950's. The old scare them with "COMMUNISM" tactic.
    Get real!
  • Tinka123 WGN 2012/02/16 07:56:40 (edited)
    Tinka123
    More like the old "using their own words" tactic. Like I said - I have more respect for a Communist that KNOWS they're a Communist than I have for a progressive, liberal or conservative that plays purposeful ignorance to their own authoritative tendencies. lol
  • WGN Tinka123 2012/02/17 01:02:05
    WGN
    +1
    As my 15 year old granddaughter says, " Whatever!"
  • Tinka123 WGN 2012/02/17 02:26:40
    Tinka123
    Indeed it is.
  • Tinka123 steven 2012/02/16 03:20:26
    Tinka123
    See what I mean - purposeful ignorance. That is precisely the mentality that is killing this country.
  • WGN Tinka123 2012/02/17 01:03:28
    WGN
    Purposeful ignorance is forgetting what economic policies got us into this mess, and wanting to return to them.
  • Tinka123 WGN 2012/02/17 02:25:47
    Tinka123
    I don't disagree that poor economic policy is how we arrived at this point. What relevance does that have to your attempt at definition switching? Have something other than red-herrings?
  • WGN Tinka123 2012/02/17 16:07:18
    WGN
    The point is still this: to be progressive (adj.) and therefore act progressively (adv.) one would be considered to be a Progressive (noun). The fact that the term progressive means to change and to progress in a direction that finds new ways to solve OLD problems, the conservatives of this country can never be called progressive as the term conservative means to resist change.
    Is this clear enough. Santorum will never be progressive or a Progressive candidate, as he is stuck in the conservative 1950's.
    he has nothing new that will solve any problems that the conservatives have created.
    He is redundant and therefore of little use to the country as a whole.
  • Tinka123 WGN 2012/02/17 18:59:33 (edited)
    Tinka123
    No the fact is, you don't automatically take on the traits of the adjective by simply labeling yourself with the noun. Sure, there are progressives that are progressive in nature. But the entire platform itself is not the sole representation of the adjective in American politics. So to assert such is at its very core erroneous at best and outright definition switching at worst.

    By your own definition of progressive - our current potus will never fit the category. Not by definition of the adjective. And I already provided an example of why.
  • wtxwoman 2012/02/15 01:37:47
    wtxwoman
    +2
    Maybe he was mixed up and meant 'conservative progressive' enstead.
  • TuringsChild 2012/02/15 01:28:54
    TuringsChild
    +3
    A 'Progressive Conservative'? Outside of politics, that would be called a LIAR.
  • steven Turings... 2012/02/16 01:39:40
    steven
    Very astute of you. I agree.
  • Rusty Shackleford 2012/02/15 01:07:03
    Rusty Shackleford
    +4
    What the heck is a 'progressive conservative'?

    A progressive is a progressive no mater what disguise he hides behind.
  • Swany 2012/02/15 00:56:44
    Swany
    +7
    I looked up santorum on google. Neither progressive or conservative was mentioned. animated laughing
  • Turings... Swany 2012/02/15 01:29:46
    TuringsChild
    +2
    Strangely appropriate, I must say! lol
  • steven Swany 2012/02/16 01:43:23 (edited)
    steven
    +1
    ...and the absence of evidence is the evidence of absence? You never heard of site cleaning?
  • Swany steven 2012/02/16 02:51:34
    Swany
    10 4
  • Kiosk Kid 2012/02/15 00:56:00
    Kiosk Kid
    +5
    Just like Liberals, the Communist Party also claims to be progressive. In 2012 like in 2008 they don't have candidates, they are supporting their fellow "progressives" Democrats.

    "The Communist Party has an unparalleled history in the progressive movement of the United States."
    http://cpusa.org/the-party/

    Marxism doesn't work therefore it is regressive. Capitalism does work therefore, it is progressive.
  • steven Kiosk Kid 2012/02/16 01:45:15
    steven
    +1
    But the "progressive" movement is typically socialist in the US. True, capitalism works, but the connotation of words has changed so drastically that we need to be careful about OUR meanings vs. theirs.
  • Arinn 2012/02/15 00:44:20
    Arinn
    +3
    Oh really? Is that possible?

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