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San Diego Residents Face 6 Years In Prison For Washing Their Car

snipe 2012/11/14 18:24:20

San Diegans could face 6 years in prison and fines of $100,000
dollars a day for
washing their car in the driveway or failing to pick up dog poop under new
EPA-mandated environmental regulations related to water quality.



Although residents of the city are forced to drink toxic waste in
their water supply in the form of sodium fluoride, measures imposed as a
consequence of the Environmental Protection Agency’s Clean Water Act would turn
the most mundane of activities into a criminal offense.


“California’s latest experiment in faith-based policymaking is
being unleashed today on the San Diego public, as regional water-quality
officials begin
hearings on new regulations that seem crafted to turn most owners of a car,
house or dog into criminals within a decade or so. We wish we were
exaggerating,” reports the North County Times.


“Under the draft rules, ordinary homeowners may face six years in prison and
fines of $100,000 a day if they are deemed serial offenders of such new crimes
as allowing sprinklers to hit the pavement, washing a car in the driveway, or,
conceivably, failing to pick up dog poop promptly from their own backyards, let
alone the sidewalk.”


The regulations will be enforced with the aid of a 24-hour telephone snitch
line which residents of San Diego, south Orange and southwest Riverside counties
can use to report on their neighbors for violating the new code.


The new rules could even force firefighters to collect the water they use to
douse burning buildings.


The regulations are being passed under the justification of
minimizing the bacteria Total Maximum Daily Load (TMDL) that runs into rivers
and streams.

The regulations about to be foisted upon San Diegans are merely a
taste of the kind of big government tyranny and control freak micromanagement we
can expect to see unleashed against Americans under the guise of
environmentalism when real environmental issues like toxic waste being added to
the water supply are completely ignored.


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  • Cat 2012/11/18 01:43:05
    Cat
    +1
    The entire US west is a water shortage disaster waiting to happen. The Peoples Republic of California should be using huge seawater desalinization plants like Israel and Saudi Arabia do.
  • realist 2012/11/17 23:47:30
    realist
    Lol, rape will become more common then clean cars now.
  • nails 2012/11/16 02:32:37
    nails
    +1
    They can become the poster people for following the law or laughing at it
  • JOHNNY 2012/11/15 12:32:50
    JOHNNY
    +1
    This is crazy !!!
  • redhorse29 2012/11/15 07:18:53
    redhorse29
    +1
    Very interesting. We do not have prison space or budget now. What does the state propose to do about funding this folly?
  • sglmom 2012/11/15 05:33:14
    sglmom
    +4
    What the?

    SO GLAD I don't ever have to go back there again ..
    couldn't imagine being stationed there ..
    and NOT going to the Base Self-Serve Car Wash Area on a regular basis ..
    not being able to just keep the vehicles clean ..
    (let's see how that goes .. people like to keep their lawns green ..
    (as in real green) .. NOT PLASTIC and fake!)
  • The.Z.Viru5 2012/11/15 04:40:19
    The.Z.Viru5
    +4
    Absolutely ridiculous!
    absolutely ridiculous
  • WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA 2012/11/15 03:57:05
    WhereIsAmerica? ~PWCM~JLA
    +5
    Nanny states are going to be the death of this country.
  • jimmy WhereIs... 2012/11/15 14:13:25
    jimmy
    +1
    yea especially califorina.
  • Augure3VI 2012/11/15 02:51:02 (edited)
    Augure3VI
    As overzealous as this policy is, should it exist, don't use it to take it out on the rest of us. The New World Order isn't coming!

    If you want to be taken seriously by the majority of us, stop using Alex Jones'/Paul Joseph Watson's websites. I'm currently looking for a legit source on this story and everyone of them links to Infowars or Prison Planet or other hard right conspiracy websites, so this is questionable at best. Read this San Diego news site: http://www.kusi.com/category/... (it's not what it says about it, it's what it doesn't say about it, and this is a Fox station).

    I'll be honest though, I would be happy if people got fined because their dog squatted a swirly on someone else's lawn and didn't pick it up, especially in public parks.
  • snipe Augure3VI 2012/11/15 03:31:24
    snipe
    +3
    As usual you didn't read the article. If you had you would have noticed a link to the local Newspaper that broke the story. That Paper is the main source for the story and the source all the others are using. Now, go find the link, it's really not that hard. Hint: It's highlighted in blue!
  • Augure3VI snipe 2012/11/15 05:44:39 (edited)
    Augure3VI
    I did. The question is the news legit. I tried looking on other San Diego news sites and if this effects everyone in the city, why isn't it in mainstream newspapers? Most city newspapers are pretty mainstream and politically neutral and they'll print about anything that is actually happening, if it has been confirmed. U-T San Diego appears to be more focused on conservative causes than the mainstream. It sounds like the conservative media is exaggerating what may not even become an actual law.
  • snipe Augure3VI 2012/11/15 18:16:56
    snipe
    Whatever...carry on!
  • CMackle... Augure3VI 2012/11/16 18:50:27
    CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    A mainstream newpaper in Cali? You've got to be kidding me. The media in Cali is even more leftwing than the rest of the country which is mostly left to begin with.
  • Augure3VI CMackle... 2012/11/17 03:03:57 (edited)
    Augure3VI
    Any mainstream newspaper is liberal to you. In fact I haven't found anything on this alleged law in any official (as in having stories that can be verified as true) newspaper or news website. Maybe it will be in the tabloids.
  • CMackle... Augure3VI 2012/11/19 19:36:56
    CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    Over 80% of all US media is biased to the left because nearly all media outlets are owned by huge corporations that are also left.

    The far left has infiltrated the media and the educational systems of this country far beyond what most people realize. It's all part of their plan, and it's working.

    http://rense.com/general32/am...
  • Augure3VI CMackle... 2012/11/20 00:46:29
    Augure3VI
    That's because only 20% think like you, if even that.

    Less than 10% would take that webpage seriously. Rense's radio program and website, Rense.com, cover subjects such as 9/11 conspiracy theories, UFO reporting, paranormal phenomena, Holocaust denial, Zionism, tracking of new diseases and possible resultant pandemics, environmental concerns (see chemtrails), animal rights, possible evidence of advanced ancient technology, geopolitical developments and emergent energy technologies, complementary and alternative medicine among other subjects. Rense's show has been accused of being among "conspiracy-oriented Internet radio shows that often feature antisemites and extremists" by the Anti-Defamation League.

    He's no different then Alex Jones, who authored the theme of this subject. I mean really, his radio show features David Duke (former KKK Grand Wizard) and David Icke (certifiable nut case, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... as guests. The only thing that is more rediculous than his website and his radio show is his hairstyle.

    The fact that you take any of this seriously just proves my point.

    You still have Walmart though.
  • CMackle... Augure3VI 2012/11/20 03:08:10
  • Augure3VI CMackle... 2012/11/20 10:50:39
    Augure3VI
    Old doesn't mean true. Many of those things that has been accomplised in some way at the time it was written, you just noticed them now. I do like some of these:

    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

    Do you want to live in a world ravaged by nuclear energy?

    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

    The Wall fell so that goal is no longer feasable.

    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

    It's either the United Nations or the Divided Nations. The Communist nations took other countries by force and those that weren't part of them were pretty much enemies, depending on the level of extremism. Cou...






































































































    Old doesn't mean true. Many of those things that has been accomplised in some way at the time it was written, you just noticed them now. I do like some of these:

    1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

    2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

    9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

    Do you want to live in a world ravaged by nuclear energy?

    8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

    The Wall fell so that goal is no longer feasable.

    11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

    It's either the United Nations or the Divided Nations. The Communist nations took other countries by force and those that weren't part of them were pretty much enemies, depending on the level of extremism. Countries apply to join the United Nations of their own free will and even if they aren't part of them, they get along fine with the rest of the world.

    13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

    They have to swear your loyalty to the Communist government of the Nation they live in. Here, you only have to swear loyalty when you join the service or become US citizens. The rest of the time it's optional, as it should be.

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

    18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

    Communist propaganda isn't being taught in schools. The only ones who have control of student newspapers are the schools.

    20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

    21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

    People can publish anything they like, so the First Amendment is not being violated. The press is required to print what is actually been verified as true. Journalists that deliberatly print libel and outright lies can be subject to lawsuits and lose their jobs.

    22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

    23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

    Shapeless, meaningless art is the only thing that doesn't offend the Religious Right. Put a statue or painting of a partially nude body and they get pissy. More so, what does art have to do with American culture when not all art is American? #23 has no basis in fact.

    24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

    25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

    What's obscene is a matter of perspective and when laws are made to control what one can read, watch or listen to, it's censorship and a violation of free speech and free press which are protected by the Constitution. That is frequent in a Communist government, so it sorta conflicts there.

    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

    One thing worth noting about devoted Communists is that they are actually very conservative, even if they don't hold any religious beliefs beyond the dogma taught to them by their leaders. Homosexuality wasn't exactly looked highly upon in a Communist nation and they were frequently persecuted and a federal level.

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

    How is that happening today? Churches are protected as are the words they teach from their texts, no matter how vile some of them can be. Liberals don't give a damn how a church is run, as long as they have no part in the government.

    28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

    What religious students do on their own time is up to them, but it seems that the Christian ones get aggressive when they are told told to pray in private, that they cannot preach in the classrooms and hallways or have to learn subjects they find sacrilegious (evolution, sex-education). It's even more annoying that Christian groups are trying to revise tax-payer funded schools with their variation (intellegent design/creation science, abstinence only education, revised history that historians found incorrect). In all, they are trying to indocrinate impressionable young minds before they are old enough to understand the religion and make the choice for themselves. I'm not picking on Christianity, per se, it's only because it is the dominate religion in North America.

    29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

    On the contrary, we have a strong respect for the Constitution. What's inadequate, old fashioned and out of step are people's interpretation of the documents that made this country free. To moralists, the First Amendment is about "freedom of religion". Yes, it's also grants people's rights to be free of religion by default of the fact that the US Government is meant be religiously neutral. Many of the Founding Fathers traveled through Europe where religious persecution by a church run government was common place there and even in what would later be the United States. The French Revolution started largly because people were starving while the ruling monarchy and the Roman Catholic church gave little to nothing to help them while they themselves lived in luxury. The Founders took a stand right there with a quil and a sheet of hemp paper.

    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

    What's American culture? Our cultures are so diverse, there's nothing really exclusive. The only time Russian history (pre-soviet) was ever taught in American schools were in Russian language classes, most often taught by American citizens who, if they came from the USSR, left to get away from Soviet culture and it's ruling government. No basis in fact that Russian history was taught instead of American culture.

    34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

    Good! The HUAC and later Joseph McCarthy spent more time interogating Americans with no verified ties to Communist parties and ruining their careers while any genuine Communists completed their missions right under their noses because they had training to blend in. I question if there was any actual cases of Communist espionage in the first place. The FBI isn't going to admit it even it there was a successful case of it.

    You couldn't be a free-thinker, a member of a non-Christian/Catholic religion in a government position or in Hollywood without being on their Blacklist. They hated liberals and equated them with Communists just like Conservatives are doing today.

    35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

    The TEA party and the Republicans are always talking about wanting a small government and the government grew quite a bit under J. Edgar Hoover's control. They are, however, needed to control the criminal element of society.

    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

    Unions are in people's control. Conservatives want to get of all forms of Unions.

    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

    The last time the government gave money to save a business, refering to General Motors, Conservatives accused Obama of infiltrating and gaining control of them. He gave them back the business after it was stabilized.

    38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

    39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

    If someone is considered mentally disturbed, holding them in prison for their crimes is a violation of a person's rights until they can be mentally evaluated. If they are insane, treat them as long as necessary until they are no longer a threat, which may not happen with some as mental diseases can only be treated, not cured. If they were considered mentally stable at the time of their crimes, try them approprately.

    In Communist controlled governments, those found to be disturbed were treated the same as any criminal and if they weren't executed, they spent the rest of their natural lives in prision. In some cases, they didn't have to even commit a crime in the first place.

    40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

    41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

    How are they a Communist value?

    42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

    Right now we have hard-right militias doing that holding the same paranoid beliefs that are written on "The Communist Takeover of America". Ever since 2008, they've been loading their guns and sharpening their knives praying for a revolution. Now there are petitions being passed around for their state to secede from the rest of the US.

    43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

    44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

    45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

    If #43 happened, it was happening around 100-200 years ago while the country was growing.

    The Panama Canal is still a US territory. If anything it serves as a neutral zone when dealing with aggressive nations.

    There is no World Court. It's nothing but a New World Order consipracy theory.


    To sum it all up, you have events that conflicts with what happened or is happening in actual Communist nations. Liberals don't want to be controlled by anyone, not by the government, not by the church. What you have there Cold War paranoia written by a right-wing nutcase nearly 50 years ago, updated to reflect the events happening today. No different than someone insisting that Armageddon or the Rapture is coming and I'm sure some of you believe in those things too.

    By the way, I support outlawing circumcision nationwide. It's an unnessary and involuntary removal of a natural body part and no different than removing a girl's clitoris. It should be limited to religious practice if it's done on an infant. A man can have it done when they are old enough to make the decision themselves.
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  • CMackle... Augure3VI 2012/11/26 18:50:55
    CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    No one wants nuclear war and the UN has become a joke.
  • Augure3VI CMackle... 2012/11/27 01:07:39
    Augure3VI
    No we don't, and having a United Nations is better than a Divided Nations. It's hard enough for our own country to get along with each other without the Right demanding a succession in their perspective states.
  • CMackle... Augure3VI 2012/11/30 19:29:39
    CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    Screw the UN. It's been taken over by whackos. They actually have countries with the worst records of human right abuses IN CHARGE of human rights. Then they send delegations from countries with terrible voter fraud and rigged elections to oversee OUR election! The UN is even trying to overide our constitution by making the 2nd amendment void with their gun ban treaty. The UN can eff off.
  • ed 2012/11/15 00:22:41
    ed
    +3
    I would say that the government is getting way out of hand,no wonder states want to get away from big government.
  • chicagosjentleone 2012/11/15 00:13:22
    chicagosjentleone
    +3
    They are broke, what better way is there to get cash flow coming into the state? Fine people who wash their cars.

    I found out in a chicago suburb that you can't feed the birds anything, no bird seed or stale bread because it attracts rats. You will be fined 500 for feeding birds. What a joke!

    Great times, more and more states that are broke will be doing these kind of things.
  • Just G chicago... 2012/11/15 04:10:11
    Just G
    +3
    I'd never wash my car. People would swear I was driving around a large clod of mud.
  • terrabytes 2012/11/15 00:02:53
    terrabytes
    +7
    You get what you vote for. Enjoy.
  • Ron 2012/11/14 23:47:18
    Ron
    +4
    Hey its a great idea I think we need more regulations like these everywhere keep them coming eventually Americans might wake up and see the light. On second thought based on the recent Election probably not.
  • seadog6608PWCM 2012/11/14 23:22:27
  • Ozzyboy seadog6... 2012/11/15 02:16:16
    Ozzyboy
    +3
    He also has his boot on your neck.
  • rebel.girl 2012/11/14 23:16:44
    rebel.girl
    +5
    oh good grief.... I think California has bigger issues that they need to focus on!!
  • texasred 2012/11/14 23:05:17
    texasred
    +7
    Just another reason to move out of California and give it to the idiot libs.
  • Aqua Surf 2012/11/14 21:38:31 (edited)
    Aqua Surf
    +4
    I feel like someone is going to say April fool, only it's November. Is this a frigging joke?!
    gjfko
  • snipe Aqua Surf 2012/11/14 23:02:34
    snipe
    +1
    I don't think it's a joke.
  • AL 2012/11/14 21:25:13
    AL
    +7
    Welcome to Obamas Communist States of American! Just another out come of elections!
  • Just G 2012/11/14 20:58:49
    Just G
    +8
    Why in hell would anyone want to live in San Diego?
  • RJ~PWCM~JLA 2012/11/14 20:50:25
    RJ~PWCM~JLA
    +8
    Good for them! They voted for Socialist dictatorship, and they've gotten exactly what they voted for.

    I wish them all the best, and hope they're very happy with their choice!
  • Soapstone 2012/11/14 20:43:51
    Soapstone
    +6
    When you take into consideration that these same idiots probably voted for most all of the liberal moonbats that started all this, I could care less if they go to jail.
  • CMackley ~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/11/14 20:32:32
  • Beat Magnum True Hero 2012/11/14 20:29:06
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +3
    Anyone who doesn't clean up after their dog should be flogged in public.
  • Just G Beat Ma... 2012/11/14 21:00:14
    Just G
    +2
    I'll get my dog to poop in your yard! Hahaha! (Of course, I will have to buy a dog first.)

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