Rush Limbaugh Say Police, Fire-Fighters,Teachers ‘Do Not Grow The Economy’ Do You Agree? (VIDEO)

by (▪‿▪)DoctorWhoGuru(▪‿▪) Posted 2012/06/13 22:51:18

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Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET 2012/06/13 22:53:18

No

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He is a talking head, nothing more, of absolutely no relevance
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MadAsHEck to Grounds... 2012/06/14 17:25:04

And now the government is the entity with the most employees in the country now.

So we have more consuming tax dollars, than are contributing. Somethings gotta give.

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Tully 2012/06/14 12:57:41

No

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Their jobs do not create revenue. That's why they get treated like crap, but they do spend money. So yes, civil service jobs can grow the economy.

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Franklin 2012/06/14 12:56:58

Yes

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Public workers growing the economy is like saying you can grow your household income by giving your children bigger allowances !

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Tully to Franklin 2012/06/14 13:00:07

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Almost makes sense. In the same sense, I pay my daughter to cut the lawn, $20. It would cost me $50 from the traveling group of Mexicans. So in a way, she is saving me money and growing the household pot of money.

On the other side, the analogy falls apart when you think the govt can do something more efficientlly than a professional.

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Darkitec to Tully 2012/06/14 14:20:13 (edited)

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True, and if your daughter was government, she would need to hire a tax collector to collect that allowance, an accountant to track her allowance, more people to distribute her allowance to her, then for mowing the lawn, she would have to hire a union person to repair and maintain that mower, someone to set up the fuel contract and monitor the fuel deliveries, another person to verify that all the environmental requirements for that fuel are being met. another person to verify that the grass was cut, someone else to write reports showing how well the lawn was cut............... Each one taking a dollar or so from that $20 so she can now only afford to cut the lawn once a month instead of the $50 group of mexicans that show up every week.

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Tully to Darkitec 2012/06/14 17:49:32

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I agree. The govt never does anything efficiently.

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kevjon to Tully 2012/06/14 14:28:44

Just think how much you would be saving if your kid did the lawn to cover their share of the household work. Not only would you save money but your kid would learn responsibility.

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KrSpo to Franklin 2012/06/14 13:48:57

By your logic then, we should cancel all of the contracts that Defense Contractors have, as well as contractors that work for the State Department. They are all Public Workers. Let's cancel the water and waste departments as well.

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Defend ... to KrSpo 2012/06/14 13:57:32

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i see you have no clue
furthermore the poster of this question is just posting false hoods about what Rush Has said

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KrSpo to Defend ... 2012/06/14 14:05:14

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I have plenty of 'clue', friend. Rush is the symbol of hate that this country needs to expel. He is the flag waver of an old train of thought that has done nothing but brought this nation into the gutter. He screams nonsense, is bigoted, a narcissist, and against the equal treatment of all others.

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Defend ... to KrSpo 2012/06/14 14:16:41

i see more false hoods from a big time Leader of the Liberal Progressive DNC and Obama regime

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Willie to Franklin 2012/06/14 16:27:10

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If one of my children could prepare another one for a job, then I would give that kid a bigger allowance. It might not help in the short run, but in the long run, the child who was prepared for a job would become self-supporting, and, who knows, maybe even support me in my old age.

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Wahvlvke 2012/06/14 12:52:56

Yes

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Police, Firefighters and Teachers are government jobs, funded by tax money. They do not grow the economy but are a burden on the economy and require the taxes from several productive jobs to be supported. Rush is right ... get over it.

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Tully to Wahvlvke 2012/06/14 13:01:08

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Police and Firefighters protect property. Teachers teach the next group of tax payers. They do have a profound influence.

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kevjon to Tully 2012/06/14 14:31:17

Rush never said fire the ones we have besides it is up to local governments to hire teachers, firefighters and police...not the federal government. How can Obama dictate local budgets?

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Tully to kevjon 2012/06/14 17:55:22

I didn't say anything about Obama. A lot of teacher pay comes from the state level. The Fed can infuse a load of cash and the state/county/city can disperse from there. Teachers got a raise in the Stimulus. Same can be done with firefighters and police.

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kevjon to Tully 2012/06/14 23:03:39

Obama is behind this propaganda, but how can teachers get a raise from the stimulus when their checks come from the counties they work in and not from the federal government. Schools get federal money based on attendance and it is up to the school to use that money where they see fit but a federal raise for teachers salaries binds the schools to a long term commitment. I think you are incorrect with that statement.

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Tully to kevjon 2012/06/15 04:42:18

Maybe. My wife's a teacher. Its how it was explained to me.

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kevjon to Tully 2012/06/15 04:56:15

Than her school is telling her the wrong thing because teachers get paid by the tax dollars raised locally from peoples land tax values. The federal government has nothing to do with those taxes. This was just another liberal propaganda ploy to try and make voters believe that Obama is out to save teachers. You would think that teachers would be mad at Obama for driving our economy deeper into recession.
Most teachers that were laid off was because of the Barney Frank mortgage collapse that vacated thousands of homes cutting off those taxes to schools. That liberal caused mortgage collapse started this economic collapse first with the banks and then followed by job losses and consumer spending losses.
One more liberal denial.

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Tully to kevjon 2012/06/15 11:27:45

Not so much in Florida. Our teacher salaries and school funding come from lottery money on the state level and a local sales tax in county.

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Wahvlvke to Tully 2012/06/14 18:07:19

No one disputes that ... but they are still paid by taxes which is money taken out of the economy.

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Tarheel to Wahvlvke 2012/06/14 21:54:06

A burden, really? Saying taxes from several "productive" jobs, blah, blah, blah...somewhat insinuates that those in the profession of teaching, firefighting or being a police officer are not productive which is totally incorrect.

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Wahvlvke to Tarheel 2012/06/15 12:48:31

Their jobs do not produce any wealth. They are necessary service jobs and we all should appreciate them but they are still jobs that live off taxpayers. That's just the way it is ... sorry.

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Andy 2012/06/14 12:37:15

Yes

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They are essential parts of the economy, but they are not part of the Growth of the economy. Without them, we would suffer, and in some cases die... as they are not producing a product, but a service that is funded by tax dollars, not pay for service monies

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Mark P. 2012/06/14 12:10:12

Yes

Their salary, equipment, and training are based on taxes collected from the private sector.

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Tarheel to Mark P. 2012/06/14 13:34:54

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No exactly true. Not for teachers anyway, most spend hundreds of dollars on school supplies because so many students do not have the necessary items. Most have spent money helping students buy lunch or something like that, depending on the type of school that you teach. Plus, "public servants" pay taxes on the salaries they receive, just like the private sector. It's just not as much, because in most cases we don't make as much. I make about $20,000 less than I used to. That was my decision. I wanted to make a difference and do something other than be commended for making a good sale. I don't get why so many people (politicians, talk-show announcers, etc) want to demean those that chose a profession to help or teach others.

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Defend ... to Tarheel 2012/06/14 13:58:38

he does not demean anything your just saying this cause cause you hate dissent of obama and liberal progressives

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Tarheel to Defend ... 2012/06/14 14:00:57

Oh gosh, not you again. You don't know anything about me, so shut up with your habit of saying the same old thing over and over again.

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Defend ... to Tarheel 2012/06/15 10:03:16

I will not shut up this is not Nazi Germany
for a so called teacher you sure hate being educated

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Mark P. to Tarheel 2012/06/14 21:21:05

You bought a fire truck or school lately. Maybe a police car. That takes tax payer money. The new fire station where I live cost 1.2 million. This is a city with a population of about 10,000. Really fancy station with a state of the art weight room. All paid for with tax money.

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Tarheel to Mark P. 2012/06/14 21:35:34

Have you bought a manufacturing plant? What does that have to do with anything?I stated that teachers spend a lot of their own money buying school supplies. You had stated that equipment is bought by taxpayer dollars. A teacher needs school supplies so it's something we have to buy. So what? I've spent thousands of dollars on classes (again out of my own pocket). And genius, I'm a taxpayer as well.

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kevjon to Tarheel 2012/06/14 23:10:14

Manufacturing plants are bought by private sector money and not tax money. I thought you said that you only make 1600 a month? So why are you buying kids their supplies?
The fact that you contribute doesn't make you better than the rest, we contribute thousands a year toward the needy but that comes from my pocket and no where else. I also sent my kids to private schools and had to pay public school fees on top of that, now do you think that is fair?
I love the way you defend public servant jobs but trash private sector companies that actually pay for your salary.

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Mark P. to Tarheel 2012/06/15 11:42:44

All that stuff is paid for with tax dollars, just like the salaries of of police, Fire and teachers. Thats the cost to the private sector.

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Radlad 2012/06/14 12:00:33

Yes

At least not in the area of wealth creation. The fact that they are consumers helps with the economy. But they do not create wealth, jobs, or product. They do provide a service......

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Diane Spraggs Yates 2012/06/14 11:55:37 (edited)

No

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Tax payers pay their wages and private pay-pays taxes thats the difference in government jobs vs private sector. Shouldof been YES YES YES

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Diane S... to Diane S... 2012/06/14 11:57:10

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YES YES YES sorry hit the wrong key !!!!!

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Aksana 2012/06/14 11:34:57

No

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disagree

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The Libertarian 2012/06/14 11:32:35

Yes

I think Rush is wrong and Rush is right, not all public sector jobs grow the economy, but one part of the Public Sector without a doubt grows the Economy and that is the Military, this is a very very very partial list of companies who do grow the economy and they are associated with the Military.

A1 Anco, Military Equipment Machining, Fabrication and Welding Services
AB Precision (Poole) Ltd, Explosive Ordnance Disposal, Remotely Operated Vehicles, Disruptors, De-Armers, Mine Disposal Equipment and EOD Tools
ABSL Power Solutions, Lithium-Ion Batteries and Advanced Power Solutions
Absopulse Electronics, Military Power Conversion Systems: DC/DC Converters, AC/DC Power Supplies and Battery Chargers, DC/AC inverters, AC/AC Frequency and Phase Converters
Achleitner, Multipurpose Protected Military Vehicles
ACMAT, Multirole All-Wheeled Tactical Vehicles
ACMH, Refrigerated Autonomous Containers, Military Water-Tank Containers and Deployable Military Shelters
Adams Industries,Inc, Military Night Vision Optical Systems
ADLINK Technology, Rugged Military COTS Systems
Advanced Detection Technology, Under Vehicle Inspection Systems and Security Equipment for the Defence Industry
Aimpoint AB, High Performance Red Dot Reflex Sights
Air Rover, Environmental Control Units, Generators, Heate...

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I think Rush is wrong and Rush is right, not all public sector jobs grow the economy, but one part of the Public Sector without a doubt grows the Economy and that is the Military, this is a very very very partial list of companies who do grow the economy and they are associated with the Military.

A1 Anco, Military Equipment Machining, Fabrication and Welding Services
AB Precision (Poole) Ltd, Explosive Ordnance Disposal, Remotely Operated Vehicles, Disruptors, De-Armers, Mine Disposal Equipment and EOD Tools
ABSL Power Solutions, Lithium-Ion Batteries and Advanced Power Solutions
Absopulse Electronics, Military Power Conversion Systems: DC/DC Converters, AC/DC Power Supplies and Battery Chargers, DC/AC inverters, AC/AC Frequency and Phase Converters
Achleitner, Multipurpose Protected Military Vehicles
ACMAT, Multirole All-Wheeled Tactical Vehicles
ACMH, Refrigerated Autonomous Containers, Military Water-Tank Containers and Deployable Military Shelters
Adams Industries,Inc, Military Night Vision Optical Systems
ADLINK Technology, Rugged Military COTS Systems
Advanced Detection Technology, Under Vehicle Inspection Systems and Security Equipment for the Defence Industry
Aimpoint AB, High Performance Red Dot Reflex Sights
Air Rover, Environmental Control Units, Generators, Heaters and Trailers
Air Target Sweden, Acoustical Scoring Equipment
Airborne Systems, Troop Parachutes, JPADS / Cargo Delivery Systems, Delivery Platforms and Air Droppable Safety and Survival Equipment
AirBoss-Defense, CBRN Gloves, Overboots and Gas Masks
AIRSENSE Analytics, Portable Gas-Detection Systems, Gas Sensor Systems and Accessories for On-Site Sampling
AIS, Shooting Range Design and Military Training Facilities
Akzo Nobel Aerospace Coatings, Military Paints, Finishes and Coatings
Alaska Structures, Deployable Military Shelter Systems
All Terrain Vehicle (ATV) division of Phoenix International, Prowler Light Tactical All Terrain Vehicle (LTATV)
Allied Data Systems, Embedded Computing Platforms, Software and Military Interfaces
Allied Wire & Cable , Mil-Spec Wire and Custom Cable for Military Applications
Allison Transmission, Power Transmissions for Military Vehicles
Almamet, Magnesium Infrared and Missile Countermeasure Powders
Almo Wire & Cable, Wire and Cable for Military Applications
AM Power Systems, High-Voltage, Low-Power Conversion Products
AMA, Military Fuel Handling Systems and Installation Services
AMC Security, Access Control and Perimeter Protection Systems for Military Installations
American Signal Corporation, Military Electronic Voice and Siren Equipment
AMOG, Specialist Services to the Defence Sector
AMZ-KUTNO, Armoured Vehicles, Ambulances, Buses and Money-Transportation Vehicles
ANSUL, Automatic Fire Extinguishing Systems
AoA and MDT Armor, Personal Ballistic Armor, Aircraft Armor Kits and Armored Vehicles
APS Paintball Limited, Paintball Markers for Training
Aqeri, Rugged Military Computers, Communications Equipment and Peripherals
AR Modular RF, RF Booster Amplifiers for the Defense Industry
Arctic Heat, Personal Cooling and Heating Systems
ARI-Phantom Technologies, Jammers for Wireless and Cellular Communications
ArmourWorks International Ltd, Signature Management, Blast Protection and Armour Systems for the Defence Industry
ASB Group, Military Thermal Batteries
Ashot Ashkelon, Drive Train, Suspension and Mobility solutions for Tanks & APC's; Tungsten Based Armor Penetrators and Fragments Manufacture
Astronautics, Artillery Navigation, Aiming, Target Acquisition and Fire Control Systems
Astrum, Track Solutions
AT Electronic and Communication International, Tactical Transceivers and Rugged C3I Systems
ATI Electronique, Military Interconnect Products
Automotive Management Services, Defence Vehicle and Equipment Fleet Management and Training Services
Axsys Technologies, Camera Systems, Optical Systems and Motion Control Products
B and T Marketing, Modular Weapon Storage Systems and Security Equipment for the Military Industry
B&B; Electronics Manufacturing Company, Military and Defence Communications Systems
B&W; International, Special Cases and Bags
Backplane Systems Technology, Industrial Computers for Control Engineers and System Integrators
Ballistic Body Armour, Bulletproof Vests and Ballistic Vests and Helmets
Barrett Communications, HF & VHF Tactical Communications
Behr Industry, Cooling and Air-Conditioning Systems
BEI Precision Systems & Space Company, Optical Encoders, Scanners and Accelerometers
Beijing Anlong Tech and Trade, Anti-Riot and Law Enforcement Protective Equipment
Beijing Defense, EOD and IED Disposal Equipment, Bomb Detection Systems
Bertin Technologies SA, Biological and Chemical Agent Detection Systems and Other Systems
Beth-El Industries, Filtration, Ventilation and Air-Conditioning Systems
BIATEL, Command, Control, Surveillance and Transmission Systems for Military Assets
BIOBSERVE, Recording Systems for Training and Simulation Applications
Biokinetics and Associates, Blast, Ballistics and Blunt Impact Soldier Protection
Biolab H2O, CBRN Detection and Protection Systems
Bioquell UK LTD, Vehicle and Shelter CBRN Protection and Cooling Systems
Bit Tradition, Rugged Notebooks, Tablets, Vehicle Computers and Displays for the Defence Industry
Blücher GmbH, Chemical and Biological (CB) Protective Clothing
Bohemia Interactive Simulations, VBS2
Boldon James, Military Messaging and Secure Information Exchange Software
Bollé Tactical, Ballistic Eye Protection Products
BondCote, Coated and Laminated Specialist Military Fabrics
Booyco Engineering, HVAC and APU Systems
Bose Corporation, Bose® Military Headsets: At Work Around the World
BoxModul, Ballistic and Blast Protective Safe Shelters
Bradken, Sleeman Compass Lightweight Steel Armour Plate
Bren-Tronics, Military Batteries and Charging Systems for Communication and Electronics Applications
Britannia 2000 Ltd, Specialist Video Surveillance Equipment
Brugg Kabel, Rugged Protected Fibre-Optic Cables and Connectors
Bruntingthorpe Proving Ground, Automotive and Defence Vehicle Testing Ground
Brüel & Kjær Sound & Vibration Measurement, Military Vehicle Noise and Vibration Measurement Solutions
BT Defence, DFTS: Secure Defence Voice, LAN, Data and WAN Network
Bumar Amunicja, Ammunition, Anti-Armour and Anti-Aircraft Missiles Supplier
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Wahvlvke to The Lib... 2012/06/14 12:58:53

It is all recycled tax money ... redistributed. It has been taken out of the economy and then put back in after wasting a chunk oozing through the morass of govt.

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beach bum 2012/06/14 10:39:26

Yes

yes

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