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Ron Paul: what will he be able to do at the convention?

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The New York Times shows Mitt Romney leading with over 600 delegates, and Ron Paul with only 52. But:

Over the weekend, reports came in from Examiner.com (Wilmington, DE and their National
edition). They showed Ron Paul winning delegates in Missouri, Colorado
and Minnesota that everyone thought would go to Romney or Santorum.
Santorum then quit the race last week, and never said how he expected
“his” delegates to vote. The two Examiners seemed to think that many of
them would vote for Ron Paul and not for Mitt Romney. In any
event, Ron Paul knew that caucuses would select delegates, because
primaries were non-binding. Not only are those primaries non-binding;
they have no influence on what caucuses do.


The Colorado results are most interesting. Caucuses chose 36
delegates. Sources did not seem to agree on how they would vote. But
those who investigated the matter closely, realized what had happened. RealClearPolitics, for instance, says
that Mitt Romney had the most delegates. In fact, he “won” 13
delegates, against 6 for Santorum. The caucuses chose 17 others who did not pledge their votes. But where do their loyalties lie? Tom Mullen at The Washington Times thinks he knows. Todd King of Lewis, CO, one of those “unpledged” delegates, told Mr. Mullen this:


13 unpledged delegates, including me, will vote for Ron
Paul on the first ballot. One unpledged delegate will vote for Santorum.
The remaining three unpledged delegates, also known as the ‘delegates
at large,’ are the state GOP Chairman, the state GOP National
Committeeman and the National Committeewoman. Those three will likely
vote for Romney. They usually vote for the frontrunner so as not to make
waves.


So Ron Paul can count on as many delegate votes as Mitt Romney can,
or almost as many, depending on how the super-delegates vote.


Missouri Republicans changed their caucus rules,
under pressure from many who felt that the Republican “establishment”
wanted them to shut-up and let them do things their way. Ron Paul hopes
to “dominate” in Missouri when Republican voters there meet in caucus
this Saturday and in June.


The Ron Paul campaign flatly disputes the AP/New York Times delegate tally. In March they showed the true delegate strength as:


  • Mitt Romney: 425
  • Rick Santorum: 361
  • Ron Paul: 225
  • Newt Gingrich: 165

One commenter on that page explained how Ron Paul’s supporters get delegates:


This isn’t for sissies. You have to go to the meetings,
meet people and tell them your name so they’ll remember you when it
comes time to vote in delegates, etc. And frankly, it’s boring. I
listened to a long speech tonight and there were a million other things I
would’ve rather been doing (like reading on here or griping with my RP
friends on Facebook).


If those who support the other three candidates are less willing to
listen to “boring…long speech[es]” and forgo their “million other things
[they'd] rather [do],” then of course they’re losing delegates. They
leave the field to Ron Paul.

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  • Theresa 2012/04/16 18:32:09
    Win the nomination
    Theresa
    +18
    Ron Paul could be the only Nominee without the scent of scandal. That I think will be very important to the delegates.

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  • Dan ☮ R... Robert 2012/04/17 18:29:32
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +3
    Voice matters is wrong about how Delegates work. Bound delegates must still vote for Santorum. Unbound are free to vote for anyone they want.

  • LAAD Gu... Dan ☮ R... 2012/04/17 19:21:14
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    +3
    Let me guess...you're blocked by that douche?
  • Dan ☮ R... LAAD Gu... 2012/04/17 19:27:41
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +2
    Been for a while, because I had a bad habit or refuting his misinformation.
  • LAAD Gu... Dan ☮ R... 2012/04/17 19:46:49
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    +4
    LOL you're not the only one, me along with a large portion of my friend's list have been blocked by him. Pretty ironic his name is "voice_matters", apparently that just means his voice.
  • rocat LAAD Gu... 2012/04/17 19:58:52
    rocat
    reminds me of this fat dude...
  • LAAD Gu... Robert 2012/04/17 19:19:26
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    +2
    Right on friend
  • SJG 2012/04/17 13:20:15
    None of the above
    SJG
    +3
    Serve appetizers
  • Donn Wright 2012/04/17 13:15:42 (edited)
    None of the above
    Donn Wright
    +12
    Ron Paul is going to go down in history as one of two things. Either he will be the man that the American people FINALLY found enough sense to elect or.....

    He will be the ultimate "I told you so".

    With the very survival of the Country at stake, what are it's people gonna do?

    Elect or re-elect another NWO puppet? or

    Elect the only honest man in the race who just happens to be the only man who understands how close we are to total collapse and has the knowledge and the guts to try to stop it?

    Consider a couple of things no one but Ron Paul even addresses. We are spending roughly 4 Billion dollars every day that we don't have, so we either have to borrow it or create it out of thin air. What will 4 Billion dollars buy? The Navy's newest and baddest aircraft carrier, The Ronald Reagan, cost 4.5 billion to build. We could almost build one every day with the money we are borrowing. Do we need that? Of course not, it's just an example. The numbers involved in our budget crisis are unimaginable without trying to show what they mean in terms we can understand.

    The other thing is our worldwide empire. If we don't stop trying to run the world, we are going to spend ourselves out of existence. Think Rome and Russia, just to name two out of hundreds of examples.

    Long story short? If we don't el...









    Ron Paul is going to go down in history as one of two things. Either he will be the man that the American people FINALLY found enough sense to elect or.....

    He will be the ultimate "I told you so".

    With the very survival of the Country at stake, what are it's people gonna do?

    Elect or re-elect another NWO puppet? or

    Elect the only honest man in the race who just happens to be the only man who understands how close we are to total collapse and has the knowledge and the guts to try to stop it?

    Consider a couple of things no one but Ron Paul even addresses. We are spending roughly 4 Billion dollars every day that we don't have, so we either have to borrow it or create it out of thin air. What will 4 Billion dollars buy? The Navy's newest and baddest aircraft carrier, The Ronald Reagan, cost 4.5 billion to build. We could almost build one every day with the money we are borrowing. Do we need that? Of course not, it's just an example. The numbers involved in our budget crisis are unimaginable without trying to show what they mean in terms we can understand.

    The other thing is our worldwide empire. If we don't stop trying to run the world, we are going to spend ourselves out of existence. Think Rome and Russia, just to name two out of hundreds of examples.

    Long story short? If we don't elect Ron Paul, we will have chosen to end the grand experiment of freedom. This nation is going to collapse under the weight of it's people wanting the government to do everything for them. We will be just another shining example of mankind's inability to learn from our mistakes. One way or the other, we will be able to look back at this election and see if we had the intelligence to vote for the only man who has a prayer of saving us, or we voted for a man who drove us over the financial cliff.

    So what's it going to be America? Do you want America to continue or are you so blind that you will deny your children the opportunity to grow up in a free country?

    Either way, Ron Paul has been telling us for thirty years what is going to happen if we don't get our act together.

    He is either going to be the man who saved this country, or the man who told us how we were digging our own grave. The choice is ours.

    And to answer the question, yes he could still win the nomination and the general if we wake the hell up.

    Romney doesn't have a chance in hell of beating Obama so a vote for RP is not a lost vote as many will try to have you believe. A vote for anyone but RP is a vote that we have given up on this Country and are wiling to go quietly into the night.
    (more)
  • LAAD Gu... Donn Wr... 2012/04/17 19:29:59
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    +3


    You just said it as well as I've heard anyone say it, great post my friend
  • Donn Wr... LAAD Gu... 2012/04/17 20:01:26
    Donn Wright
    +1
    Thank you!
  • Tuna 2012/04/17 12:12:28
    Undecided
    Tuna
    +11
    It's for sure RP will not stand there and LIE; play to cheers and ovations; and he sure as hell won't suck up to the establishment that wants this demise to continue. RP will tell it like it is, whether we like it or not.
    rp lie play cheers ovations suck establishment demise continue rp
  • dallas Tuna 2012/04/17 12:30:46
  • Tuna dallas 2012/04/17 12:43:37
    Tuna
    +2
    As disgusting as it is, considering the source, it's of non-affect.
  • dallas Tuna 2012/04/17 12:55:22
  • kudabux dallas 2012/04/17 13:40:27
    kudabux
    LOL
  • Temlako... Tuna 2012/04/17 12:41:59
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    Did everybody notice that in the above cartoon, he throws "Open Borders" overboard with the rest of the boxes? Open borders IS NOT a Ron Paul stance.
  • Tuna Temlako... 2012/04/17 12:44:08
    Tuna
    +2
    It most certainly is but RP views it as State's rights.
  • David 2012/04/17 12:02:09
    None of the above
    David
    Smile?
  • Joe61 2012/04/17 11:46:09
    Undecided
    Joe61
    +3
    Not a lot, because, he has lost the the Primary and should do the gracious thing and stand aside. He would truely garner more respect for admitting that he is the loser and leaving the stage willinging to fight for the candidate. That is clearly the voice of the ordinary rank and file conservative candidate, chosen to take on Obama.
  • Tuna Joe61 2012/04/17 12:13:54
    Tuna
    +2
    Ordinary rank and file is exactly the problem.
  • Joe61 Tuna 2012/04/17 15:16:42
    Joe61
    The ordinary rank and file is what gets you elected......without them your just another name on the ballot form.
  • Tuna Joe61 2012/04/17 17:59:47
    Tuna
    +1
    You said rank and file CANDIDATE not voter; the rank and file candidates with the same old lies to get elected are the problem; you won't hear the rank and file lies from Ron Paul.
  • LAAD Gu... Joe61 2012/04/17 19:36:41
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    +1
    I wish people, you included, would realize that this election is a hell of a lot bigger than just Obama. Let me tell you something, Obama isn't the only disease in the White House, ULTIMATELY he is just a puppet, just as Romney would be if he were elected (he won't be). If we don't elect the RIGHT man for the job, if we settle for Romney or anyone other than Paul, then we ensure the demise of our nation. This is far greater than just Obama, if we don't elect the RIGHT man, the ONLY man speaking out against all the corruption, then we are asking for more of the same and in four years time it will be too late to save our country, it will already be in free fall after being pushed the rest of the way over the edge.
  • Jay Theyme 2012/04/17 10:13:56
    None of the above
    Jay Theyme
    +3
    Ron Paul is interesting in that he is something like a '3rd Party/Libertarian' or you can even say a kind of 'Protest Vote Candidate,
    yet,
    In fact, a lot of Republicans and conservative people do admire and respect SOME or even Many of the ideas or concepts or support some aspects, at least, in principle if not details.
    So I think Ron Paul can come out and make a helluva special speech and while it might be raucous and mix boos and yays - he WILL get credit due and applause in so far as he deserves respect.
    And that isn't a bad thing. That's a good thing!
  • Pm 2012/04/17 08:09:01
    None of the above
    Pm
    +2
    After every debate he has been in, his numbers went down...People see what he is all about and how he cant answer any questions without spitting on America.
  • Stueiro Pm 2012/04/17 10:32:42
    Stueiro
    +6
    You are deluded. Which polls did you see those numbers in? MSM no doubt? Wake up man!
  • Che Gue... Stueiro 2012/04/17 10:50:32
  • Pm Stueiro 2012/04/18 02:06:54
    Pm
    +1
    After the votes were counted then compared with poll numbers before the debates.
  • jacob crim Pm 2012/04/17 12:17:10
    jacob crim
    +3
    Its hard not to spit on America over the last 10 years though, people are delusional if they do not see our nation is going down the hole fast.
  • Robert Pm 2012/04/17 14:26:09
    Robert
    +2
    Could you please back up " Spitting on America" with some facts. Please take the time to think before you post. Thank you.
  • nverumind Pm 2012/04/17 14:26:23
    nverumind
    +1
    that is so far from the truth.. even if you are not a ron paul fan. Attend one of his rally's , You will see for yourself just how vast and how diverse his groups are.
  • Pm nverumind 2012/04/18 02:08:07
    Pm
    +1
    Same could be sais about any politician...
  • LAAD Gu... Pm 2012/04/17 19:38:29
    LAAD Gunner - USMC
    +2
    You are truly living under a rock if you actually believe any of the crap you just said.
  • Pm LAAD Gu... 2012/04/18 02:23:35
    Pm
    HE believes in commodity backed currency even though its failed over and over again. This type of currency cannot keep up with growth. If our money is converted to convertible fixed rate currencies(gold standard) we will ose out role as a world monetary issuer(reserve currency). The change from the nonconvertible floating rate (fiat) back to the old currency would be catastrophic. Deflation would wipe out most business.
    Foreign policy of non internationalism (which only differs from isolation in that it still seeks open trade)ended with the emergence of the interlocked world economy. The bases the US military occupy across the globe insures civility among rouge nations. If the US withdrew all troops then what would keep those rouge nations in check? Nothing. The fact the US is next door instills fear. And what is the greatest tool to help keep something in check, FEAR. Ron Paul wants the U.S out of the U.N. This means we would have no say to what the U.N might want to do. SCARY.
    There is so much more
  • Temlako... Pm 2012/04/18 13:01:08
    Temlakos~POTL~PWCM~JLA~☆
    Are you sure about that? Are you really sure that when a government says, "Let there be money!" that there really is money? For that is what "Fiat" literally means.

    Your analysis fails on this account: the price of motor fuel *has not changed* in relation to the price of one of the most common money metals known to man: silver. Two original silver dimes, from the old days before the US mint moved to copper-nickel sandwich coins, will *still* buy a gallon of gasoline today. Dr. Paul showed this.

    History has always been *inflationary*, not *deflationary*, even when money was gold and silver.

    Now about those rogue nations: who benefits from keeping them in check? Do you suppose some people are getting a free ride? And are they *really* in check after all? Better to issue a renewable letter of marque and reprisal to any American citizen or company of citizens who desire to do business in a part of the world where "rogues" operate.
  • Pm Temlako... 2012/04/18 18:36:04
    Pm
    Your too out of touch for me to continue this deabte...I can already see yoru mind is made up and not open to facts.
  • Che Guevara - Hero 2012/04/17 07:09:46
    None of the above
    Che Guevara - Hero
    +1
    White Supremacist and Homophobe Ron Paul's campaign is DEAD.

    Ron Paul voted AGAINST the MLK Holiday.

    Ron Paul voted AGAINST awarding Rosa Parks the Congressional Medal of Freedom.

    Ron Paul said he would have voted AGAINST the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    Paul has a 30 year history of pandering to the KKK and White Power Movement.

    You can make all the LAME excuses for White Supremacist Ron Paul you want. His actions speak louder than words

    -FACT: Ron Paul's presidential campaign issued a flyer that boasted about the candidate's efforts to introduce legislation that would remove challenges to the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act from the federal court system.
    http://www.joemygod.blogspot....

    -FACT: Ron Paul's Iowa state director is Mike Heath, a long-term Christian-right activist who formerly served as the board chairman of an SPLC-certified anti-gay hate group known as "Americans for Truth About Homosexuality."
    http://thenewcivilrightsmovem...

    -FACT: Ron Paul has a long history of racist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic comments.
    http://www.tnr.com/article/po...

    -FACT: As state above, Ron Paul supports the so-called "states' rights" approach to marriage, but interestingly, only for LGBT couples.
    http://www.yourtango.com/2008...

    -FACT: Ron Paul said, "If I were in Congress in 1996...



    White Supremacist and Homophobe Ron Paul's campaign is DEAD.

    Ron Paul voted AGAINST the MLK Holiday.

    Ron Paul voted AGAINST awarding Rosa Parks the Congressional Medal of Freedom.

    Ron Paul said he would have voted AGAINST the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    Paul has a 30 year history of pandering to the KKK and White Power Movement.

    You can make all the LAME excuses for White Supremacist Ron Paul you want. His actions speak louder than words

    -FACT: Ron Paul's presidential campaign issued a flyer that boasted about the candidate's efforts to introduce legislation that would remove challenges to the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act from the federal court system.
    http://www.joemygod.blogspot....

    -FACT: Ron Paul's Iowa state director is Mike Heath, a long-term Christian-right activist who formerly served as the board chairman of an SPLC-certified anti-gay hate group known as "Americans for Truth About Homosexuality."
    http://thenewcivilrightsmovem...

    -FACT: Ron Paul has a long history of racist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic comments.
    http://www.tnr.com/article/po...

    -FACT: As state above, Ron Paul supports the so-called "states' rights" approach to marriage, but interestingly, only for LGBT couples.
    http://www.yourtango.com/2008...

    -FACT: Ron Paul said, "If I were in Congress in 1996, I would have voted for the Defense of Marriage Act, which used Congress' constitutional authority to define what official state documents other states have to recognize under the Full Faith and Credit Clause, to ensure that no state would be forced to recognize a same-sex marriage license issued in another state."
    http://www.thepoliticalguide....

    -FACT: Ron Paul opposes the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), which would prohibit discrimination against employees on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity by civilian, nonreligious employers.
    http://www.salon.com/2007/09/...
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  • MiaBella 2012/04/17 07:00:27 (edited)
    None of the above
    MiaBella
    The only thing Ron Paul can do is Flaunt his gray hair and wrinkles that showcase his so called political experience. Hes just another liberalist disguised as a republican nominee.
  • Dan ☮ R... MiaBella 2012/04/17 08:53:50
    Dan ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +5
    I think you mistook Romney for Paul.

    Romney is the hardcore "Liberal" and "Progressive"
  • MiaBella Dan ☮ R... 2012/04/17 18:51:02
    MiaBella
    +1
    Excuse me, but no i did not. Paul is a Libertarian. Romney is a Middleminded Republican with some liberal views which is why he is the only one who can beat Obama. Because he presents appeal to the Conservatives and Liberals and is able to attract minority voters because of his Pro Stay at home Mom Campaign thing and tons of other reasons.

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