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Ron Paul Cuts Campaign: Could a Libertarian Ever Win?

SodaHead News 2012/05/15 18:46:25
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In a carefully worded statement sent out by Ron Paul's campaign chairman on Tuesday morning, the GOP candidate announced that he's... Well, he's not exactly dropping out of the race, but he is conceding defeat. Jesse Benton wrote, "Unfortunately, barring something very unforeseen, our delegate total will not be strong enough to win the nomination. However, our delegates can still make a major impact at the National Convention and beyond."

For many, Mitt Romney has been the winner for some time. While Paul had enormous public support and the potential to significantly impact voting, he hadn't been faring too well in caucuses and primaries, and only had 104 delegates to Romney's 966. But Benton says things could have played out differently if other candidates like Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich had stayed it. As for Paul's new direction, his team is "doing everything in our power to work with out supporters." And for the record, he says it's "unlikely" he'll back Romney. Could someone like Ron Paul, just shy of a third party, ever hope to win?

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  • The Bantam Seditioner 2012/05/16 00:54:21 (edited)
    Yes
    The Bantam Seditioner
    +26
    Ron Paul would have been America's first libertarian President if the powerful alliance of state and corporations (especially corporate media) hadn't done everything they could to sabotage and marginalize him. That's ok though...try as they might, they can no longer sweep these powerful ideas back under the rug now that they're out and gaining almost viral popularity.

    At this point, they can only try to forestall the inevitable. A free and voluntary society is coming. The only thing we can't predict with much certitude is whether we will transition painlessly and peaceably, in time to save the economy, or whether the reform will come after a series of painful lessons learned at the cruel hands of dictators, central planners, and kleptocrats.

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  • Dan™: R... rspell 2012/05/16 13:30:11
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +5
    Very true. At some point, one of the "establishment" parties will realize they've been overrun by libertarians. I think the process is well underway and in a few years the Republican party will essentially be the Libertarian party the same way the Democratic Party between 2000 & 2008 basically became the Progressive Party.
  • Interstel 2012/05/16 12:29:19
    Yes
    Interstel
    +3
    The system is rigged against any party but the 2 primary parties. And the electoral college has got to go. Americans shouldnt have to deal with intermediaries it should be a direct vote..
  • shadow76 Interstel 2012/05/16 13:20:43
    shadow76
    +1
    Then you would NY and CA always picking the president, because they have the highest populations.
  • Dan™: R... shadow76 2012/05/16 19:07:10
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +2
    Excellent point. People forget why the electoral college system was ever introduced in the first place. We have a Republic, not a direct democracy. If we did away with representatives and/or the electoral college, we'd quickly degenerate into mob rule -- or worse yet, rule by the mobs of New York City and Los Angeles.
  • shadow76 Dan™: R... 2012/05/16 22:28:16
    shadow76
    +1
    Most of it is that they don't teach real history or civics anymore.
  • Dan™: R... shadow76 2012/05/17 00:23:53
    Dan™: Real Change, Not False Hope
    +2
    Indeed they don't.
  • Beat Ma... Interstel 2012/05/16 13:26:03
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +1
    Moreover, it is rigged against anyone who doesn't tow the mainstream party line. Paul has run as a Republican twice because he's aware of the entrenched establishment of the two parties (a Mistake that Nader never was willing to admit) but because he threatens the party's very power structure, he's pushed to the back.
  • voice_m... Interstel 2012/05/16 17:14:33
    voice_matters
    the systemm is rigged because your guy has no support for winning. the electoral college has zero effect on the primaries libby, so tell me why has ron paul lost every primary and caucus.

    the vote is a direct vote. in order to get the electoral votes you must win the state.
  • HarleyCharley 2012/05/16 12:25:27
    No
    HarleyCharley
    +1
    not with his foreign policy....
  • stevmackey 2012/05/16 12:08:14
    Yes
    stevmackey
    +1
    If he had a relationship with the electoral college.
  • jmc07806-PWCM-JLA 2012/05/16 11:48:02
    No
    jmc07806-PWCM-JLA
    +1
    I would like to think a libertarian could considering I am one however I don't think it will happen this year or for a long time. I do believe that the Libertarian can have a positive effect on the Governments over all policies.
  • Beat Ma... jmc0780... 2012/05/16 13:27:06
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +2
    I would say that the best way is to start from the bottom and work up. Win the local races, then the state races, then the congressional races, etc.

    Once the party has a proven track record and notoriety, you can go for the big chair.
  • jmc0780... Beat Ma... 2012/05/16 13:37:56
    jmc07806-PWCM-JLA
    +1
    That is how the socialists do it.
  • S and S 2012/05/16 11:24:50
    Yes
    S and S
    +3
    Campaign NOT cut. no reason to spend money on popularity contest vote since it doesn't mean anything. YOUR vote is completely useless. only delegates that count. then when the offical vote occurs in Nov. your vote means nothing, the electorial college picks the prez. basically your vote is useless.
  • alex S and S 2012/05/16 12:54:57
    alex
    +1
    Gotta love the illusion of freedom.
  • Joey 2012/05/16 11:05:16
    No
    Joey
    +1
    The Far Right in America is not really Far Right on everything . When it comes to what you can put in your body they are some of the first people to want to clamp down.
  • Beat Ma... Joey 2012/05/16 13:28:52
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +2
    I find it interesting that in American politics, both the right and left establishment are all about controlling your thoughts and actions through clever packaging. The right wants to control it through "morals," the left wants to control it through political correctness. In the end, both parties are telling you what you can say, think, do, etc.
  • luigi1- in god we trust 2012/05/16 10:17:57
    No
    luigi1- in god we trust
    +1
    He would had split the GOP vote weakening it further thus guaranteeing Obama anoher easy victory. It's best he throws in the towel.

    I'm no Obama or Romney fan. It's like 2008 all over again, not much to choose from.
  • Aahz_OneAndOnly 2012/05/16 08:14:38
    Yes
    Aahz_OneAndOnly
    +3
    Vets for Paul
    Go Paul Go
  • Teri- Oregon 2012/05/16 07:57:37
    Yes
    Teri- Oregon
    +5
    this article is a complete lie, i can tell your either a romney or obama supporter by the way you lie just like your master
  • Simi Dave 2012/05/16 07:48:20
    Yes
    Simi Dave
    +1
    Just not RP. If you had a libertarian as suave as Clinton or Romney, yeah, they'd win handedly!
  • Beat Ma... Simi Dave 2012/05/16 13:30:25
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +1
    There is a lot of truth in that. It's kind of sad really, but part of the game is being a polished communicator. I don't even think that Paul is bad at that, but Romney, Obama, and Clinton are master turd polishers.
  • Kyra 2012/05/16 07:38:25
    Yes
    Kyra
    +2
    I hope so.
  • lurx: the soda jerk 2012/05/16 07:21:12
    No
    lurx: the soda jerk
    +2
    ...at least not in the way libertarianism is currently and so loosely defined.

    Until libertarians can tell us what they're actually going to do to solve our problems, and not allow their ideology to justify that these problems continue to fester, it's hard to imagine that in our current state of crisis, that a large enough section of the general public will ever guarantee them an electoral victory.
  • BlackwinterG36C 2012/05/16 06:41:02
    No
    BlackwinterG36C
    +3
    Not in our lifetime. And Ron Paul will NEVER be president.
  • whimsycrat 2012/05/16 06:29:54
    No
    whimsycrat
    +2
    Hopefully people are too smart to actually want true Libertarianism in this country. The only reason Americans have the luxury of even entertaining the notion of Libertarianism is that government, in spite of all it's flaws, has, and continues to work as well as it does.

    Setting aside all the other things that government, quite seamlessly does, to make our lives better, easier and safer just consider all the things that you put in your mouth and swallow, every day, without a second thought. I doubt too many of you would go out into the world and simply put things you really know nothing about into your mouths and swallow them. Or allow your children to do that. Yet every day you drink water out of your tap, or you drink bottled water, and you go to the grocery store and buy meat and eggs and milk and produce and things in boxes and cans and bottles; you go to the drug store and get prescriptions filled and buy over the counter medications and put them in your mouths and swallow them without second thought. You go to a restaurant or a fast food place and order things and put that stuff right in your mouths and swallow it, without even thinking about it.

    How can you do that? Why are you able to do that, without even a second thought, most of the time? Because of the i...



    Hopefully people are too smart to actually want true Libertarianism in this country. The only reason Americans have the luxury of even entertaining the notion of Libertarianism is that government, in spite of all it's flaws, has, and continues to work as well as it does.

    Setting aside all the other things that government, quite seamlessly does, to make our lives better, easier and safer just consider all the things that you put in your mouth and swallow, every day, without a second thought. I doubt too many of you would go out into the world and simply put things you really know nothing about into your mouths and swallow them. Or allow your children to do that. Yet every day you drink water out of your tap, or you drink bottled water, and you go to the grocery store and buy meat and eggs and milk and produce and things in boxes and cans and bottles; you go to the drug store and get prescriptions filled and buy over the counter medications and put them in your mouths and swallow them without second thought. You go to a restaurant or a fast food place and order things and put that stuff right in your mouths and swallow it, without even thinking about it.

    How can you do that? Why are you able to do that, without even a second thought, most of the time? Because of the inherent goodness and decency of those people who manufacture and sell those things? In some cases, yes, possibly, but mostly you can do it because of government; because of laws and regulations that help to ensure the safety of the food and drugs we put into our bodies, including government inspections of production facilities and civil courts that allow us to sue when a company has been negligent and has harmed us.

    Do you really want the markets to handle all that? How would that work? Company X has been selling meat or produce tainted with E. Coli and/or salmonella, you served it at a family dinner and now your elderly father and your toddler are dead. I guess you won't be sending anymore business their way and they will soon be bankrupt. It is not in the best interest of a company to sell defective products so they won't, I guess; that's how the market takes care of things.

    I hope that's the world you want, if you're looking forward to Libertarianism, because that is the world you will most likely get. And you will get all that and more.
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  • lurx: t... whimsycrat 2012/05/16 12:31:53
  • Beat Ma... whimsycrat 2012/05/16 13:33:29
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +2
    I would also argue:

    You get into your car and fasten your seat belt with a fair assumption that it, the airbags, and the crush zones will keep you alive if God forbid you hit something.

    You call 9-1-1 with the assumption that a fire truck, ambulance, or police officer will arrive.

    You drive on roads that are smooth and safe (seriously, Americans have no idea how good their roads are).

    That's why I can never be a pure libertarian. They're right on some things, but wrong on a number of others.
  • DDogbreath 2012/05/16 06:26:19
    Yes
    DDogbreath
    +6
    I don't see anywhere that said "he is conceding defeat".

    Why anyone would waste their vote on a douche bag like Romney is beyond comprehension. I must be missing out because I don't see any "brilliant rays of light" streaming out of Romney's ass the way the neo-con's seem to.



  • Jennifer 2012/05/16 04:44:04
    Yes
    Jennifer
    +4
    I believe so! Within my life time for sure. I am 26 and the Libertarian Party is huge amongst those in my age group. So if this generation teaches the next and so on, we will get it for sure. Hopefully America can hold on until then.
  • Beat Ma... Jennifer 2012/05/16 13:34:31
    Beat Magnum True Hero
    +1
    Even if I don't agree with the third party guys, having a serious new political force to contend with would be good for everyone. Here's to hoping the younger generations breathe some fresh life into politics.
  • Jennifer Beat Ma... 2012/05/16 15:02:40
    Jennifer
    +1
    I totally agree! We need to try something else because clearly this is not working. I already teach my children some of the Libertarian ideas. Like taking care of themselves and making good choices from the beginning of their adulthood so they never have to rely on the government. Things like that. Helping others through private charity so those in need can turn to their fellow citizens instead of the government's corrupted social service programs. Nothing is ever spill proof but there has got to be a better way than what we have been doing.
  • Cal 2012/05/16 04:38:41
    No
    Cal
    +2
    Doubtful.
  • Visipunkbot sXe 2012/05/16 04:29:57
    No
    Visipunkbot sXe
    +3
    The corrupt win. The government thugs win. The rich and powerful win. Wanna know who loses? The American citizen.
  • Arizona1950 2012/05/16 04:14:49
    Yes
    Arizona1950
    +7
    Paul is not out he is not going to waste money on the GOPs corrupted caucuses is all. They are being challenged in just about every state for running roughshod over the rules to deny Paul a victory. But after the smoke has cleared Paul is winning the delegates.

    As the uninformed voter continues to support the status quo, they send a clear message to Washington that our Constitution, its Laws and the value of liberty just don’t matter. The masters have heard this loud and clear by the voting habits of the average American. In return for the blind following they send us yet another wannabe liar-in-chief for the 2012 election, a possible shill, who is no different. NO DIFFERENT

    Welcome to the NWO … we have one chance to turn it around and it won’t be done by waiting until 2016. We have to take the first real steps today. If Ron Paul isn’t on the ballot come November write him in or vote Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party. He is a good man with a good record. This just may be the most important decision of your life in taking this 1st step in restoring America; but the alternative is you may never get another chance to make one before your rights are completely gone.

    Are we going to wait until “Freedom’s just another word when there is nothing left to lose”?

    Voter fraud is running rampant ... will history be repeated?

  • gregory.ditzler 2012/05/16 03:50:50
    No
    gregory.ditzler
    +2
    Libertarianism is good on paper but fails in real life just like Communism.
  • Windy gregory... 2012/05/16 08:16:12
    Windy
    +1
    How the hell could you ever know that? You could not, because we've never had Libertarianism as our governing philosophy in any of our lifetimes. I think libertarianism WOULD function better than any other kind of political philosophy; obviously, what we DO have is not functioning well at all.
  • gregory... Windy 2012/05/16 17:34:42
    gregory.ditzler
    Simple because Libertarianism denies one basic fact of human nature, if there are no laws preventing one human from initiating force against another they'll do it without a care in the world. Thats how Libertarianism leads to Anarchy.
  • Windy gregory... 2012/05/19 20:09:57
    Windy
    You have a skewed view of anarchy and libertarianism.

    Libertarianism DOES take into consideration that people ALWAYS act in their own self-interest, that is why it DOES work, in fact. There will always be people who initiate force, libetarianism allows for force in self-defense against these kinds of people. It also allows for removing such violent people from society or otherwise restraining them from further violations of people's unalieanble right to be left alone.

    Anarchy is not violent or lawless chaos, btw, it simply means without a ruler. Thsoe violent people, dressed in black, wearing masks, breaking windows, and hurling rocks at people in protests, who claim to be anarchists, are not really anarchists, they are just violent people who have claimed a label for themselves that they do not understand and that does not fit their attitudes and actions.
  • gregory... Windy 2012/05/20 03:16:01
    gregory.ditzler
    But without a strong central government with a big security net to help the poor with welfare programs the haves exploit the havenots and the government is too weak to do anything about it because a Libertarian government can not interfere with the free market.

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