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Ron Paul Cuts Campaign: Could a Libertarian Ever Win?

SodaHead News 2012/05/15 18:46:25
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In a carefully worded statement sent out by Ron Paul's campaign chairman on Tuesday morning, the GOP candidate announced that he's... Well, he's not exactly dropping out of the race, but he is conceding defeat. Jesse Benton wrote, "Unfortunately, barring something very unforeseen, our delegate total will not be strong enough to win the nomination. However, our delegates can still make a major impact at the National Convention and beyond."

For many, Mitt Romney has been the winner for some time. While Paul had enormous public support and the potential to significantly impact voting, he hadn't been faring too well in caucuses and primaries, and only had 104 delegates to Romney's 966. But Benton says things could have played out differently if other candidates like Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich had stayed it. As for Paul's new direction, his team is "doing everything in our power to work with out supporters." And for the record, he says it's "unlikely" he'll back Romney. Could someone like Ron Paul, just shy of a third party, ever hope to win?

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  • The Bantam Seditioner 2012/05/16 00:54:21 (edited)
    Yes
    The Bantam Seditioner
    +26
    Ron Paul would have been America's first libertarian President if the powerful alliance of state and corporations (especially corporate media) hadn't done everything they could to sabotage and marginalize him. That's ok though...try as they might, they can no longer sweep these powerful ideas back under the rug now that they're out and gaining almost viral popularity.

    At this point, they can only try to forestall the inevitable. A free and voluntary society is coming. The only thing we can't predict with much certitude is whether we will transition painlessly and peaceably, in time to save the economy, or whether the reform will come after a series of painful lessons learned at the cruel hands of dictators, central planners, and kleptocrats.

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  • ghostrider 2012/06/14 18:26:47
    No
    ghostrider
    Not very likely at all ... too far on the fringe of mainstream.
  • Muskoka 2012/05/21 03:07:35 (edited)
    No
    Muskoka
    ..
  • Minuteman1969 2012/05/19 05:08:02
    Yes
    Minuteman1969
    +1
    YES... libertarian values are the core of what the founding fathers passed on to future generations, and if we have failed to live up to those principles, it has either been due to our ignorance or selfishness. When I say 'we' and 'our', I mean all of us as Americans. But in the last 20-25 years America has gone through a fundamental transformation where the values & principles which make America exceptional, that we were taught in school, no longer is reflected in the way in which our government behaves, or the way in which those within our government (state and federal) also behave.

    And it is that disconnect, along with the awakening of We The People, that makes a libertarian President a strong possibility. People no longer trust the usual (D) or (R) politicians anymore.

    Never trust a government that doesn't trust you to exercise your rights: whether it be the right to keep & bear arms; the right to peaceably assemble, protest, or speak out; or the right to belong to a certain church (the gov't is not supposed to choose which churches are 'cults' or 'extremist', as an excuse or pretext to assault them with tanks, gas, & guns).
    choose churches cults extremist excuse pretext assault tanks gas guns
  • *K'eim*h3reg' *Peh2u *Meg' 2012/05/19 00:37:00
    Yes
    *K'eim*h3reg' *Peh2u *Meg'
    Unless the SHTF in the mean time. In which case, we will have to look out for ourselves. The state will not be there for you. Not only will it not be able to afford it, but it will be openly hostile to the idea of preserving liberty and protecting rights. Oh, wait! It already IS openly hostile to that idea!
  • Starchild 2012/05/18 12:28:09
    Yes
    Starchild
    +3
    The world is gradually, fitfully, moving in a libertarian direction. People are becoming more and more aware that aggression -- initiating force or fraud against others -- is wrong and harmful, even when governments do it in our names. Freedom works better, and freedom is a fundamental human right.

    Nolan Chart  libertarian  statist  freedom
  • BB 2012/05/18 05:02:30
    No
    BB
    +1
    Until we do away with the stupid "first past the post" voting method no third party candidate could possibly win.
  • Anna E 2012/05/17 18:50:16
    Yes
    Anna E
    +1
    When enough people have had enough of the crony capitalism, stupidity, and invasiveness they'll vote Libertarian.
  • EdWhiteSpace 2012/05/17 16:30:23
    Yes
    EdWhiteSpace
    +1
    It would be difficult, but I think Ron Paul showed it could happen. He had a few too many extreme views and wasn't 'presidential' enough for some, but given the poor quality of candidates in general these days I think an alternative to the two majors is a viable choice.
    As we have seen from Romney (who will likely get my vote unless he strays any further far right, socially) a candidate in the two major parties has too many bosses and too many vocal groups threatening to pull support ... They have to try to be all things to all people, and get watered down. A viable third party might help with that, as they could have more freedom to speak their mind. He, or a future candidate, might have been better off running as a thord party though, rather than within one of the two majors as they would be more appealing in the end, but its tough to get through the primaries where extremist views are typically rewarded because of the vocal minorities on either side.
  • Kazaira 2012/05/17 06:23:28
  • gracemarie.collins 2012/05/17 02:01:08
    Yes
    gracemarie.collins
    +1
    Yes and his name is Gary Johnson! Mr. Johnson supports the FairTax HR 25. This legislation when passed will mend our broken economy and give power back to "We the People" Everyone is sick of business as usual in Washington - after all look what it has done to our Country. Two parties that can't get along or get anything accomplished. Tweaking a broken tax code that can be bought and sold. Our politicians don't have to worry about health care, pensions or their paycheck and it is obvious they are not concerned about us. Come on America we have nothing to loose and everything to gain by booting them all out! www.garyjohnson2012.com www.fairtax.org
  • sunniday gracema... 2012/05/19 04:47:46
    sunniday
    We do not need any more people in the game,very simple if you are happy with Obama vote Obama,if NOT vote Romney.FAIR TAX hah,30% at least tacked ,on to everything you buy & no return ay the end of the year to count on,& guess who gets that 30% not you.This is not the time to divide your interest.
  • gracema... sunniday 2012/06/04 01:12:49
    gracemarie.collins
    Please some due diligence! The FairTax HR 25 is 23% inclusive tax on new goods and services. No more withholding of federal FICA or income tax. NO MORE IRS! A prebate each month to every America and legal resident insures no one pays tax on necessities. No loopholes, no exceptions. The existing 70K+ tax code is just what the people in the game ie Obama and Romney use to buy and sell votes. The greedy corrupt people in the game have brought ruin to this Country. Gary Johnson supports the FT and that means he is for We The People! The FairTax is revenue neutral and will fund SS and Medicare. Please check it out www.fairtax.org
  • lucky 2012/05/17 00:51:08
    Yes
    lucky
    +1
    A libertarian can, just not Ron Paul and not someone who switches parties at whim.
  • NoHandlebarsAttached 2012/05/17 00:22:55
    Yes
    NoHandlebarsAttached
    +2
    If people dropped this "I won't vote for him because I know he won't win." mentality, then maybe.
    Everyone seems to think this, but the only reason they can't win is because people that think like that won't vote for them.
  • Justagirl 2012/05/17 00:11:32
    Yes
    Justagirl
    +2
    IF The People would wake up, stop voting for the GAG-fest the Dems. and Repubs. throw up. It's hard to fight decades of social engineering and to have faith in individuality. If Dr. Paul isn't on the ballot come November, I will be writing him in.
  • carl 2012/05/16 22:16:26 (edited)
    No
    carl
    +4
    At least not as long as the American people continue to believe the crap the media dishes out or fails to report.
  • Brian 2012/05/16 22:04:27
    Yes
    Brian
    I'm all for the possibility of a third-party candidate, but I would not vote for Ron Paul. He's a nice, honest guy, but I've read his books. I don't want him at the top.
  • Rich Ma... Brian 2012/05/16 22:38:30
    Rich Matarese
    +1
    Ah? Well, Dr. Paul has never had any appeal for those who are irredeemably "lost in sin."

    That seems to describe you, doesn't it?

    I've met the guy, and I can't name a presently prominent politician on either side of the specious "left/right" axis to whom the job of Chief Executive of the republic could be better entrusted.
  • Brian Rich Ma... 2012/05/17 06:28:31
    Brian
    "Dr. Paul has never had any appeal for those who are irredeemably 'lost in sin.' That seems to describe you, doesn't it?"

    I don't pray "in Jesus' name," if that's what you're implying, but I appreciate the concern.

    Anyway, I met Buzz Aldrin once, and I can't name a presently prominent astronaut on either side of the stratosphere to whom the job of Signing His Own Book could be better entrusted. So I believe we have some common ground, in that we have a tendency to trust people we meet.
  • hasher 2012/05/16 22:02:51
    Yes
    hasher
    yes but not ron paul. he has put his foot in his mouth toomany times the deal breaker for me was when he said the white house was gleeful after 9/11 because they could go into iraq. that was totally inappropriate to say that. and thats just one of many stupid comments he has made. while i support many of his ideas hes way off base when it comes to the military and foreign policy.
  • Rich Ma... hasher 2012/05/16 22:42:56 (edited)
    Rich Matarese
    +1
    Ah, "that was totally inappropriate to say...."

    Why? Because it was untrue, or because it was perfectly sensible?

    Are you old enough to remember how fast the Boot-On-Your-Neck Party incumbents slammed together the USA PATRIOT Act in the wake of those kamikaze-from-Allah attacks?

    If they hadn't been cooking those component violations of the Bill of Rights for years (heck, decades), how had they made 'em magically appear out of thin air when the great "crisis" gave them the golden opportunity to enact them into law?
  • Greg 2012/05/16 22:01:10
    Yes
    Greg
    +2
    It's only a matter of time before people wake up and realize that the direction the Republicrats are taking this country is the wrong one.
  • Elementer 2012/05/16 21:10:34
    No
    Elementer
  • hippietim 2012/05/16 20:44:48
    No
    hippietim
    +4
    Sadly, with the 2party system as it stands in the United States I can't see it happening!

    I do believe that Ron Paul is the man best suited 4 the job of presidency!

    Timothy

    :o)
  • TheNigh... hippietim 2012/05/16 20:57:36 (edited)
    TheNightFly
    +1
    My family (everyone but me anyway) is so culturally devoted to one of the two parties that their membership is viewed as a moral obligation.
  • sunniday TheNigh... 2012/05/19 04:53:29
    sunniday
    I've been a democrate my whole life Since JFK,but I am afraid this time I will not be BUT I will not vote a third party.Ours is a proud country we do not need to become beggars,
  • TheNightFly 2012/05/16 20:34:35 (edited)
    Yes
    TheNightFly
    +1
    Maybe, after another ten thousand years of evolution, the majority of voters will finally bare the cognitive wherewithal to embrace the only party who's principles actually benefit them.
  • FanOreilly 2012/05/16 19:41:37
    Yes
    FanOreilly
    +2
    Yes a libertarian who is not a Jew-hater.
  • hasher FanOreilly 2012/05/16 22:05:12
    hasher
    +1
    or one that makes stupid comments like the white house was gleeful after 9/11 becaue they could go into iraq. ron paul has stuck his foot in his mouth one too many times.
  • Rich Ma... FanOreilly 2012/05/16 22:44:27
    Rich Matarese
    +1
    Heck, us Sicilians LOVE Jews.

    Who else could keep both sets of books straight for us?
  • SJG 2012/05/16 19:32:24
    Yes
    SJG
    +1
    Actually if a Libertarian came forward that was well educated and could talk common sense, I'd have to think seriously today about supporting him. Paul was just a little too 'off the chart', he was right about some things and somewhat difficult to understand about others.
  • gracema... SJG 2012/05/17 02:04:21
    gracemarie.collins
    www.garyjohnson2012.com
  • littlebuffalo55TBA 2012/05/16 19:21:53
    No
    littlebuffalo55TBA
    +2
    Not under the current system! Note that the Tea Party was hijacked by the Republicans. The way for things to change so that all people have a meaningful vote for change is the change the fundamental way money flows into the campaigns!
  • nverumind 2012/05/16 19:04:30
    Yes
    nverumind
    +2
    I would hope that with the other parties having their chance, and doing nothing but effing things up! that maybe they (America) would give a different party a chance to make some real changes.
  • NakedRei 2012/05/16 18:05:48
    Yes
    NakedRei
    +2
    It's infuriating that he did this before the Texas primary. He could have seen what huge support he has in his home state.
  • Rich Ma... NakedRei 2012/05/16 18:11:36 (edited)
    Rich Matarese
    +3
    Tsk. Dr. Paul is still on the ballot in the Texas primary, and Texicans will *STILL* be voting for him - in their thousands upon thousands - because he's campaigned vigorously in the Lone Star State for months.

    The Etch-a-Sketch is despised by genuine Republicans in Texas, and those who go to the polls in their state's primary elections won't even include a significant number of the idiots and crooks who support the Massachusetts Milksop.

    They'll just stay home in droves because they've really got nothing and nobody to vote for.
  • voice_m... NakedRei 2012/05/16 20:23:01 (edited)
    voice_matters
    none. just as in 2008

    2008 paul finished 3rd behind mccain and huckabee with less then 5% of the vote.
  • TheNigh... NakedRei 2012/05/16 20:49:45
    TheNightFly
    +2
    voice_matters said:
    "none. just as in 2008

    2008 paul finished 3rd behind mccain and huckabee with less then 5% of the vote."

    Which reflects poorly on the voters, not Ron Paul.
  • Your Favorite Nerd Guru 2012/05/16 17:55:26
    Yes
    Your Favorite Nerd Guru
    Maybe, but Im conservative
  • BigKwell 2012/05/16 17:53:47
    No
    BigKwell
    +1
    Just another name for a Tea bagger.
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