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Romney rewriting free speech: Ron Paul Declines a Speaking Spot at GOP Convention After Romney Demands to Review Remarks

Technotrucker_exposingthetruth 2012/08/27 11:48:20
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Ron Paul would rather be silenced that censored.


The libertarian Republican presidential candidate says he’s declined
an opportunity to speak at the Republican National Convention in Tampa
because Mitt Romney’s campaign imposed two conditions on any Paul speech
— that it be reviewed by the nominee-to-be’s team and that it include
an endorsement without hesitation or reservation.


“It wouldn’t be my speech,” the Texas congressman told the New York Times. “That would undo everything I’ve done in the last 30 years. I don’t fully endorse him for president.”


Pundits noted that the uncompromising attitude that has won Paul a national following also limits his clout within the GOP.


“Uncompromising and perfectly willing to operate on the margins of
mainstream politics for decades, Ron Paul proved unable to take his
liberty message to a broader audience,” Charlie Mahtesian wrote today in Politico.
“Even this year, at the height of his national influence and
popularity, the Texas congressman failed to win the popular vote in a
single state and never seriously threatened to win the GOP nomination.”


But inside the University of South Florida’s Sun Dome, where Paul is
holding a celebration of his candidacy today, supporters say Paul’s
unyielding principles are why they love him. Jordan Page, a singer who
has penned several ballads about the Texas congressman, called Paul “the
one sane voice in a sea of madness.”


Former California congressman Barry Goldwater Jr. conceded that the
movement embodied by his father in 1964 and by Ron Paul this year “has
had a bumpy road.”


“But it is still alive, it is still well, it is still important,” he said.


Paul’s son, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, had been scheduled to address
the convention tomorrow, but Monday’s convention session was postponed
because of the threat posed by Hurricane Isaac. Rand Paul’s speech has
not yet been rescheduled.

http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/08/ron-paul-declines-a-s...
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  • ConLibFraud 2012/08/27 12:06:25
    All of the above
    ConLibFraud
    +12
    I will stand on my conviction. I will write in Ron Paul. You dumbed down retarded neocons and repubs need 4 more of Ofraud to wake up your disgusting asses. If ORomney were to get elected, then you would do what the liberals do ... sit on your lazy dumbed down asses and do nothing because you have an (R) in the oval and go on continuing to live your coward lives in denial.

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  • ParkMan 2012/08/28 02:04:28
    None of the above
    ParkMan
    +1
    Ron Paul is like that crazy uncle that the groom won't let give the toast at your wedding.

    If it were me, I'd want to see the remarks too.
  • historian ParkMan 2012/08/28 03:17:51
    historian
    +2
    I don't know, I'm thinking he's more like the wise grandfather showing up at your wild orgy and telling you to grow up and stop destroying yourself, your reputation, and your property. That's not even taking into account the RNC has basically changed into another party without changing the name, and the real conservatives have been cut loose to seek a third party that actually represents the values of most Americans(if they aren't brainwashed to vote against their own interests and the Republic). In the end, the Republican Party has purposely shrunk itself when claiming to want to beat Obama.
  • ParkMan historian 2012/08/28 04:20:57
    ParkMan
    So when I started to read this, I couldn't help but think of:
    Uncle Buck

    I suppose one person's crazy unclue is another's wise grandfather :)
  • historian ParkMan 2012/08/28 04:25:18
    historian
    +1
    Is that Uncle Buck? I don't think I've ever watched it. It's one of those movies I keep saying I need to watch, but haven't gotten around to it lol. John Candy was a great lost too soon.
  • ParkMan historian 2012/08/28 04:31:05
    ParkMan
    +1
    Yep - it is Uncle Buck. It was a fantastic movie! I highly recommend it!

    I most definitely agree - a genius lost too soon.
  • Arel 2012/08/28 01:29:24
    All of the above
    Arel
    +2
    Ron Paul will not be censored and he will not endorse Romney in order to speak at the convention. Romney has disrespected Ron Paul and shown America exactly where he stands on free speech. No wonder Ron Paul has distanced himself from the GOP establishment.........
  • historian 2012/08/27 19:15:22
    All of the above
    historian
    +5
    These traitors are exchanging one dictator for another.
  • Striker 2012/08/27 18:33:12
    Congrats to Ron Paul for not losing his principles!
    Striker
    +4
    By the end of the RNC, we must bring Ron Paul back to the Libertarian fold with all his troops.
    Adding in support from Anti-War and Anti-Dem/Rep and Independents and disenfranchised conservatative WE CAN beat Obama and drop the Rino-Party to #3.

    We'll have so much to do! Please expand and read the text below this video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  • **StarzAbove** 2012/08/27 15:14:43
    Romney the new dictator demands homage!
    **StarzAbove**
    +9
    Sounds like Romney is afraid of Ron Paul.
  • Technot... **Starz... 2012/08/27 18:19:01
    Technotrucker_exposingthetruth
    +7
    He is afraid of Ron Paul's message for sure. Not afraid of Paul, since he has the ballots rigged ahead of time. He just wants to see Paul kneel before the GOP dictator. Never gonna happen.
  • **Starz... Technot... 2012/08/27 18:26:25
    **StarzAbove**
    +6
    Agree. Ron Paul doesn't bow to anyone, he's his own man.
  • sean 2012/08/27 14:42:35
    Congrats to Ron Paul for not losing his principles!
    sean
    +10
    JUST ADD 1 MORE THING OBAMA AND ROMNEY HAVE IN COMMON..I BEEN SAYING IT FOR A LONG TIME..YOU DIDN'T CHOICE ANYONE..THEY WERE "CHOOSEN"
  • Technot... sean 2012/08/27 18:19:29
  • DH 2012/08/27 14:18:11
  • rocat DH 2012/08/27 16:51:06
  • DH rocat 2012/08/27 17:10:22
  • rocat DH 2012/08/27 17:15:44
    rocat
    +9
    you completely misrepresent ron pauls position-
    and the real scenario-

    the alphabet regulating agencys...
    ron paul would dismantle...
    do the bidding of corporate lobbys-

    regulations are written by the corps themselves-

    the agencys are most often staffed [at the very top] by corporate toadies...
    and former corp execs-
  • DH rocat 2012/08/27 17:42:50
  • rocat DH 2012/08/27 19:18:33
    rocat
    +5
    your first paragraph ...
    summarizes the gist of the constitution regarding states -
    except "as they see fit"...
    would be better expressed as...
    "as they are empowered by the constitution"

    interesting comment...
    "and offer no substitute beyond tried and failed States' Rights"
    there was no failure-
    states rights were eroded...
    dispensed with-

    i agree ...
    all govt is susceptible to corruption...
    i do not agree that it is worse at lower levels-
    that is unsupportable spin-

    consider...
    corruption at local levels...
    is within arms reach ..
    of those who are intended to address it-
    that would be the voters-
    fed govt is out of reach and too dangerous now to combat-

    lastly...
    ron paul is not suggesting we dismantle all federal govt...
    as you disingenuously suggest-
    he is for returning it to the limits of the constitution...
    found in the enumerated powers-
  • DH rocat 2012/08/27 21:05:24
    DH
    Persistent invocation of States' Rights led to the Civil War. The weaker union failed, as did the confederation before it. Can some things be dolled out to the whims of the state? Certainly. Can nearly everything? In my mind, certainly not. The writers of the Constitution did not mean that document to be the only piece of federal legislation ever. They included a legislative branch for a reason.

    No offense, but I honestly have no idea what you mean by the "gist of the Constitution" as regards what I wrote. The Constitution makes no mention of capitalism or anything like it, so whatever "gist" the Constitution has does not include anything about the free market.

    I don't think I put a "spin" on anything really. I said I would argue it's the case that local governments are more susceptible to corporate corruption. I understand Mr. Paul's arguments for putting policy closer to the voting public. I wish that I believed it would work. Instead, what I think would happen is that sophisticated global corporate entities would overwhelm naive local governments. Sophisticated corporations have to be regulated by sophisticated agencies. We should fight the corruption, not the regulation.

    Forgive me if I misrepresented Mr. Paul as wanting to dismantle all government. I do not think he is an an...

    Persistent invocation of States' Rights led to the Civil War. The weaker union failed, as did the confederation before it. Can some things be dolled out to the whims of the state? Certainly. Can nearly everything? In my mind, certainly not. The writers of the Constitution did not mean that document to be the only piece of federal legislation ever. They included a legislative branch for a reason.

    No offense, but I honestly have no idea what you mean by the "gist of the Constitution" as regards what I wrote. The Constitution makes no mention of capitalism or anything like it, so whatever "gist" the Constitution has does not include anything about the free market.

    I don't think I put a "spin" on anything really. I said I would argue it's the case that local governments are more susceptible to corporate corruption. I understand Mr. Paul's arguments for putting policy closer to the voting public. I wish that I believed it would work. Instead, what I think would happen is that sophisticated global corporate entities would overwhelm naive local governments. Sophisticated corporations have to be regulated by sophisticated agencies. We should fight the corruption, not the regulation.

    Forgive me if I misrepresented Mr. Paul as wanting to dismantle all government. I do not think he is an anarchist. Under the Plan to Restore America, he does propose completely eliminating 5 departments along with several other federal agencies. Personally, I think many of the cuts he proposes would be disastrous. He would prefer that many of these functions be privatized. I am certain there is not enough support at this point to validate his claims that such privatization would be viable, much less beneficial.

    Honestly, I am more than willing to listen to specifics. I am not inherently against everything Mr. Paul has to say. I don't, however, think it's necessary to debate his stringent ideology. I really do understand the dangers of large government, but you can't lop off someone's head because they have a brain tumor. There are more dangers for society than "too much" government, and none of those are remotely at our behest. It is a balancing act, and one in which we must partake.
    (more)
  • rocat DH 2012/08/27 22:04:39
    rocat
    +2
    while the constitution was not intended to be the only law ever...
    it clearly specified...
    what federal law may address-
    expanding beyond that would require amendment...
    not simply allowing the legis. branch to overstep its enumerated powers-
    which is exactly what has happened-

    by gist i referred to the enumerated powers...
    and the remainder devolving to the states-
    in light of this...
    no mention of capitalism or free markets...
    is significant...eh???

    asserting without basis...is what i refer to as spin-
    local govt is no more susceptible...
    than any other institution of flawed humans-

    sophisticated corps...
    can overwhelm any organization...
    when folks allow it-

    in short...
    my advice to you...
    do not confuse size with sophistication-
    there is nothing new under the sun-
    it is that simple-

    as for what rp would eliminate...
    we got along just fine without those agencys...
    better in my opinion-
    the rise of these alphabet soup agencys...
    marked the beginning of a period of excessive federal growth...
    and the loss of states rights-
    no coinky ...that-

    frankly...
    the root of all you have relayed here...
    is an endorsement of big govt-
    while you can articulate a case for such...
    the constitution does not allow it-
  • DH rocat 2012/08/27 23:07:34
    DH
    Never mind the "gist" comment. I see now you meant the last sentence, not the whole paragraph.

    From what I see, "assertion without basis" is all that you are willing to offer (although that is not what I would call "spin" unless it's presented as fact). You are making blanket generalizations and unsupported (if not unsupportable) ideological claims. "Do not confuse size with sophistication"... makes a great t-shirt, but I'm not confusing anything. Local governments have less available resources (man-power, technology, etc.) than state governments, which in turn have less than federal. It's simple logistics.

    What departments are we better off without exactly? I'm not being sarcastic. Interior? Were we really better off in the 1840s? Should we really sell off all the national parks to private industry? Private property rights aren't going to stop companies from strip mining anything. Private property rights aren't going to prevent the extinction or overhunting of wildlife. Education? Hell, if anything they should have more oversight. The Texas BOE shouldn't be allowed to rewrite history books because they don't like those crazy Hispanic names. Education isn't merely a local concern. In North Carolina, we would likely have mandatory Bible class in a matter of hours after the reigns...



    Never mind the "gist" comment. I see now you meant the last sentence, not the whole paragraph.

    From what I see, "assertion without basis" is all that you are willing to offer (although that is not what I would call "spin" unless it's presented as fact). You are making blanket generalizations and unsupported (if not unsupportable) ideological claims. "Do not confuse size with sophistication"... makes a great t-shirt, but I'm not confusing anything. Local governments have less available resources (man-power, technology, etc.) than state governments, which in turn have less than federal. It's simple logistics.

    What departments are we better off without exactly? I'm not being sarcastic. Interior? Were we really better off in the 1840s? Should we really sell off all the national parks to private industry? Private property rights aren't going to stop companies from strip mining anything. Private property rights aren't going to prevent the extinction or overhunting of wildlife. Education? Hell, if anything they should have more oversight. The Texas BOE shouldn't be allowed to rewrite history books because they don't like those crazy Hispanic names. Education isn't merely a local concern. In North Carolina, we would likely have mandatory Bible class in a matter of hours after the reigns were handed to our state legislature (remember, separation of church and state is a tradition, it's not in the Constitution, and the first amendment says freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion).

    I'm sure we can agree on something the Constitution does allow, though. There is a Supreme Court, and if anything our administrators and legislators have come up with is actually unconstitutional you can put in front of them to mull over.

    My advice to you is to quit with the self-righteousness. Ron Paul doesn't have all the answers. The Constitution doesn't have all the answers. Things are not "that simple" as you are wont to believe. Quit worrying about what looks good on paper, and worry about what can actually be accomplished, what we can really solve. I'd love to trim the bureaucracy and increase efficiency. I'd love to cut out corruption wherever possible. I'm all for talking about specific things that can be done, specific policies that should be edited or repealed or introduced. Starting over from the beginning is just not a possibility.
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  • rocat DH 2012/08/27 23:20:55
    rocat
    +2
    my ...you do go on...once wound up-

    you stray far afield...
    from the simple principles i espouse-

    bibles...
    parks...
    wildlife...
    strip mining???...

    and... hispanic names???

    you really ran the gamut there-
    feel better???

    issues divide...
    principles unite-
  • DH rocat 2012/08/27 23:34:15
    DH
    There is that condescension and self-righteousness again. I guess I will never see a thoughtful reply. Principles unite? Too bad bumper stickers don't solve problems. Good day, sir.
  • Striker DH 2012/08/27 18:36:25
    Striker
    +6
    for some, yes, it's hard to buy into Liberty. How sad.
  • DH Striker 2012/08/27 19:02:59
    DH
    +1
    For others, it is apparently hard to make a legitimate point. Why would you bother insulting my intelligence save that you are incapable of speaking intelligently? I didn't insult anyone, sir. Being old isn't a permit to be a dick.
  • Striker DH 2012/08/27 19:09:10
    Striker
    +5
    You keep trying to insult me. To be expected from an Obama dick.
  • DH DH 2012/08/27 19:20:36
    DH
    Hmm... blocked.... I'll just tack this on the conversation for posterity...
    I have to insist that I insulted no one until you insulted me. In fact, you were not part of this conversation at all... until you insulted me. I said absolutely nothing to you until provoked.
  • rocat DH 2012/08/27 19:43:26
    rocat
    +3
    i don't see any insult toward you-

    perhaps you should explain that-
    or retract it-
  • DH rocat 2012/08/27 21:25:52
    DH
    I retract nothing. Condescension and an insult to my intelligence were clearly implied.
  • rocat DH 2012/08/27 22:06:22
    rocat
    +1
    sorry...
    just not seeing that-
  • Tinka123 DH 2012/08/27 22:14:44
    Tinka123
    +2
    The U.S. Govt. IS a corporation - tis why it's a corporate clusterfluck. Don't saddle Paul with blame for something that took place long before he took office.

    You distort the true role of govt here - he can not turn it into what it already is. lol
  • Tinka123 DH 2012/08/27 22:12:41
    Tinka123
    +1
    America is a corporation. Nuff' said.
  • DH Tinka123 2012/08/27 23:29:36
    DH
    America can be viewed as a corporation, sure. Or were you talking about the Act of 1871 bit? At any rate, I'm not sure how that's "Nuff said".

    I'm not saddling Paul with anything... yet. I'm saying the extensive deregulation he proposes would further plunge us into corporatocracy. Yes, I agree we are heavily burdened by such already. ALEC has written some of our bills. Lobbyists have politicians in their pockets, and those politicians pile on the pork every chance they get. Trying to fix that system from within may seem like a lesson in futility, but I guarantee you those same corporations can't wait to see the kind of deregulation Ron Paul suggests. He has good suggestions to offer, but please quit thinking he is infallible.
  • Tinka123 DH 2012/08/28 00:09:17
    Tinka123
    +1
    This is a corporatocracy - we're already there.
  • NOT14U2 2012/08/27 14:12:06
    Congrats to Ron Paul for not losing his principles!
    NOT14U2
    +3
    Believe that I won't either !
  • poet4justice 2012/08/27 13:57:23 (edited)
    Congrats to Ron Paul for not losing his principles!
    poet4justice
    +2
    i think he is better of not going in the in the convention
  • LibertyCaroline 2012/08/27 13:56:14
    All of the above
    LibertyCaroline
    +4
    The liberty movement is still alive no matter how hard you try to censor it Mr. Romney.
    My state does not allow write in's, so I will be voting 3rd party--Gary Jonson
  • James 2012/08/27 13:56:08
    All of the above
    James
    +4
    Remember in November when Romney's actions today will make him fail.
  • Technot... James 2012/08/27 14:06:47
    Technotrucker_exposingthetruth
    +4
    I honestly believe he is not supposed to win.

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