Romney rewriting free speech: Ron Paul Declines a Speaking Spot at GOP Convention After Romney Demands to Review Remarks
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Ron Paul would rather be silenced that censored.
The libertarian Republican presidential candidate says he’s declined
an opportunity to speak at the Republican National Convention in Tampa
because Mitt Romney’s campaign imposed two conditions on any Paul speech
— that it be reviewed by the nominee-to-be’s team and that it include
an endorsement without hesitation or reservation.
“It wouldn’t be my speech,” the Texas congressman told the New York Times. “That would undo everything I’ve done in the last 30 years. I don’t fully endorse him for president.”
Pundits noted that the uncompromising attitude that has won Paul a national following also limits his clout within the GOP.
“Uncompromising and perfectly willing to operate on the margins of
mainstream politics for decades, Ron Paul proved unable to take his
liberty message to a broader audience,” Charlie Mahtesian wrote today in Politico.
“Even this year, at the height of his national influence and
popularity, the Texas congressman failed to win the popular vote in a
single state and never seriously threatened to win the GOP nomination.”
But inside the University of South Florida’s Sun Dome, where Paul is
holding a celebration of his candidacy today, supporters say Paul’s
unyielding principles are why they love him. Jordan Page, a singer who
has penned several ballads about the Texas congressman, called Paul “the
one sane voice in a sea of madness.”
Former California congressman Barry Goldwater Jr. conceded that the
movement embodied by his father in 1964 and by Ron Paul this year “has
had a bumpy road.”
“But it is still alive, it is still well, it is still important,” he said.
Paul’s son, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, had been scheduled to address
the convention tomorrow, but Monday’s convention session was postponed
because of the threat posed by Hurricane Isaac. Rand Paul’s speech has
not yet been rescheduled.
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ConLibFraud 2012/08/27 12:06:25All of the above+12I will stand on my conviction. I will write in Ron Paul. You dumbed down retarded neocons and repubs need 4 more of Ofraud to wake up your disgusting asses. If ORomney were to get elected, then you would do what the liberals do ... sit on your lazy dumbed down asses and do nothing because you have an (R) in the oval and go on continuing to live your coward lives in denial.



















If it were me, I'd want to see the remarks too.
I suppose one person's crazy unclue is another's wise grandfather :)
I most definitely agree - a genius lost too soon.
Adding in support from Anti-War and Anti-Dem/Rep and Independents and disenfranchised conservatative WE CAN beat Obama and drop the Rino-Party to #3.
We'll have so much to do! Please expand and read the text below this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
and the real scenario-
the alphabet regulating agencys...
ron paul would dismantle...
do the bidding of corporate lobbys-
regulations are written by the corps themselves-
the agencys are most often staffed [at the very top] by corporate toadies...
and former corp execs-
summarizes the gist of the constitution regarding states -
except "as they see fit"...
would be better expressed as...
"as they are empowered by the constitution"
interesting comment...
"and offer no substitute beyond tried and failed States' Rights"
there was no failure-
states rights were eroded...
dispensed with-
i agree ...
all govt is susceptible to corruption...
i do not agree that it is worse at lower levels-
that is unsupportable spin-
consider...
corruption at local levels...
is within arms reach ..
of those who are intended to address it-
that would be the voters-
fed govt is out of reach and too dangerous now to combat-
lastly...
ron paul is not suggesting we dismantle all federal govt...
as you disingenuously suggest-
he is for returning it to the limits of the constitution...
found in the enumerated powers-
No offense, but I honestly have no idea what you mean by the "gist of the Constitution" as regards what I wrote. The Constitution makes no mention of capitalism or anything like it, so whatever "gist" the Constitution has does not include anything about the free market.
I don't think I put a "spin" on anything really. I said I would argue it's the case that local governments are more susceptible to corporate corruption. I understand Mr. Paul's arguments for putting policy closer to the voting public. I wish that I believed it would work. Instead, what I think would happen is that sophisticated global corporate entities would overwhelm naive local governments. Sophisticated corporations have to be regulated by sophisticated agencies. We should fight the corruption, not the regulation.
Forgive me if I misrepresented Mr. Paul as wanting to dismantle all government. I do not think he is an an...
No offense, but I honestly have no idea what you mean by the "gist of the Constitution" as regards what I wrote. The Constitution makes no mention of capitalism or anything like it, so whatever "gist" the Constitution has does not include anything about the free market.
I don't think I put a "spin" on anything really. I said I would argue it's the case that local governments are more susceptible to corporate corruption. I understand Mr. Paul's arguments for putting policy closer to the voting public. I wish that I believed it would work. Instead, what I think would happen is that sophisticated global corporate entities would overwhelm naive local governments. Sophisticated corporations have to be regulated by sophisticated agencies. We should fight the corruption, not the regulation.
Forgive me if I misrepresented Mr. Paul as wanting to dismantle all government. I do not think he is an anarchist. Under the Plan to Restore America, he does propose completely eliminating 5 departments along with several other federal agencies. Personally, I think many of the cuts he proposes would be disastrous. He would prefer that many of these functions be privatized. I am certain there is not enough support at this point to validate his claims that such privatization would be viable, much less beneficial.
Honestly, I am more than willing to listen to specifics. I am not inherently against everything Mr. Paul has to say. I don't, however, think it's necessary to debate his stringent ideology. I really do understand the dangers of large government, but you can't lop off someone's head because they have a brain tumor. There are more dangers for society than "too much" government, and none of those are remotely at our behest. It is a balancing act, and one in which we must partake.
it clearly specified...
what federal law may address-
expanding beyond that would require amendment...
not simply allowing the legis. branch to overstep its enumerated powers-
which is exactly what has happened-
by gist i referred to the enumerated powers...
and the remainder devolving to the states-
in light of this...
no mention of capitalism or free markets...
is significant...eh???
asserting without basis...is what i refer to as spin-
local govt is no more susceptible...
than any other institution of flawed humans-
sophisticated corps...
can overwhelm any organization...
when folks allow it-
in short...
my advice to you...
do not confuse size with sophistication-
there is nothing new under the sun-
it is that simple-
as for what rp would eliminate...
we got along just fine without those agencys...
better in my opinion-
the rise of these alphabet soup agencys...
marked the beginning of a period of excessive federal growth...
and the loss of states rights-
no coinky ...that-
frankly...
the root of all you have relayed here...
is an endorsement of big govt-
while you can articulate a case for such...
the constitution does not allow it-
From what I see, "assertion without basis" is all that you are willing to offer (although that is not what I would call "spin" unless it's presented as fact). You are making blanket generalizations and unsupported (if not unsupportable) ideological claims. "Do not confuse size with sophistication"... makes a great t-shirt, but I'm not confusing anything. Local governments have less available resources (man-power, technology, etc.) than state governments, which in turn have less than federal. It's simple logistics.
What departments are we better off without exactly? I'm not being sarcastic. Interior? Were we really better off in the 1840s? Should we really sell off all the national parks to private industry? Private property rights aren't going to stop companies from strip mining anything. Private property rights aren't going to prevent the extinction or overhunting of wildlife. Education? Hell, if anything they should have more oversight. The Texas BOE shouldn't be allowed to rewrite history books because they don't like those crazy Hispanic names. Education isn't merely a local concern. In North Carolina, we would likely have mandatory Bible class in a matter of hours after the reigns...
From what I see, "assertion without basis" is all that you are willing to offer (although that is not what I would call "spin" unless it's presented as fact). You are making blanket generalizations and unsupported (if not unsupportable) ideological claims. "Do not confuse size with sophistication"... makes a great t-shirt, but I'm not confusing anything. Local governments have less available resources (man-power, technology, etc.) than state governments, which in turn have less than federal. It's simple logistics.
What departments are we better off without exactly? I'm not being sarcastic. Interior? Were we really better off in the 1840s? Should we really sell off all the national parks to private industry? Private property rights aren't going to stop companies from strip mining anything. Private property rights aren't going to prevent the extinction or overhunting of wildlife. Education? Hell, if anything they should have more oversight. The Texas BOE shouldn't be allowed to rewrite history books because they don't like those crazy Hispanic names. Education isn't merely a local concern. In North Carolina, we would likely have mandatory Bible class in a matter of hours after the reigns were handed to our state legislature (remember, separation of church and state is a tradition, it's not in the Constitution, and the first amendment says freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion).
I'm sure we can agree on something the Constitution does allow, though. There is a Supreme Court, and if anything our administrators and legislators have come up with is actually unconstitutional you can put in front of them to mull over.
My advice to you is to quit with the self-righteousness. Ron Paul doesn't have all the answers. The Constitution doesn't have all the answers. Things are not "that simple" as you are wont to believe. Quit worrying about what looks good on paper, and worry about what can actually be accomplished, what we can really solve. I'd love to trim the bureaucracy and increase efficiency. I'd love to cut out corruption wherever possible. I'm all for talking about specific things that can be done, specific policies that should be edited or repealed or introduced. Starting over from the beginning is just not a possibility.
you stray far afield...
from the simple principles i espouse-
bibles...
parks...
wildlife...
strip mining???...
and... hispanic names???
you really ran the gamut there-
feel better???
issues divide...
principles unite-
I have to insist that I insulted no one until you insulted me. In fact, you were not part of this conversation at all... until you insulted me. I said absolutely nothing to you until provoked.
perhaps you should explain that-
or retract it-
just not seeing that-
You distort the true role of govt here - he can not turn it into what it already is. lol
I'm not saddling Paul with anything... yet. I'm saying the extensive deregulation he proposes would further plunge us into corporatocracy. Yes, I agree we are heavily burdened by such already. ALEC has written some of our bills. Lobbyists have politicians in their pockets, and those politicians pile on the pork every chance they get. Trying to fix that system from within may seem like a lesson in futility, but I guarantee you those same corporations can't wait to see the kind of deregulation Ron Paul suggests. He has good suggestions to offer, but please quit thinking he is infallible.
My state does not allow write in's, so I will be voting 3rd party--Gary Jonson