Romney pro-capitalism vs Obama anti-capitalism: which side are you on?

No Capitalism promotes Competition Do you see another Stand in the photo?

I wouldn't call taxi cab companies successfully lobbying Congress to require a $1 million decal per car explicitly for the purpose of snuffing out up-starts "promoting competition."

Obama destroys Businesses. Obama screws Tax Payers by bailing Companies out instead of letting Business fail to allow Competition to replace those not strong enough to compete.

Initially I agreed with you on principle because if the little guy screws up nobody's there to catch him. However, I've come to realize that part of the issue the government has with debt is that it keeps borrowing and borrowing, with massive interest. When the government gave the bailout, there was also an interest rate attached to it, so when the government gets the money back (and it's on track to), it will also gain a [relatively] small amount of interest back. This is the real reason politicians were against it - their bankster friends didn't want to lose money to the government.

They think that all business belongs to the Government and that All Property belong to the government and that it is Government who decides How much of the pie you get

1. I would consider myself somewhat of a Marxist. I don't believe businesses belong to the government.
2. Businesses find themselves subject to regulation when they do things wrong.
3. Government should start giving a serious look at how much of the pie corporate executives are getting. They are taking it all, leaving us sick, starving and stupid, yet we are none the wiser to their schemes.

Oh. let me give you help there. I'll first start off with a list of the top 20 donors to Obama's 2008 campaign. pay special attention to all the investment banks on it, all the college/universities that do research, and the presenc of Googles, Microsoft and General Electric - The last two are two of the largest corporations in the world. Solyindra, LightSquaire and theArizona Diamondacks and the Colorado Rockies where also campaign contributors too but were not in the top twenty.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pr...
University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
US Government $513,308
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295
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Now here is a list of some of the things were included in the $787 billion stimulus bill (Known as "American Reinvestment and Recovery Act" (AR&RA) that were not going for areas that created jobs for americans. In fact, oneCalifornia University recieved money to fund two studies on how cocaine affects monkies (oh yes, one of those studies concerned itself on how cocaine affected the monkies's sex life.)

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- Remember Microsoft, one of the richist corporations in the world and a campaign contributor too Obama's campaign? " - In the AR&RA, $11 million for Microsoft to build a bridge connecting its two headquarter campuses in Redmond, Wash., which are separated by a highway."

Other things in that stinulas bill. Note ow much goes to reseach.. (From 1001 reasons to vote against Obama. http://www.conservativedailyn...
- Obama stimulus gave $200,000 to teach Siberian lawmakers how to engage Russian policy makers in Moscow.
- Stimulus funding of $250,000 went to bug storage for an insect museum at North Carolina State University that gets 44 visitors a year.
- Gave $500,000 to put microchips in recycling bins to check up on the recycling efforts of senior citizens.
- $5 million to create a geothermal energy system for the Oak Ridge City Center shopping mall in Oak Ridge, Tenn.
- $9.38 million to renovate a century-old train depot in Lancaster County, Pa., that has not been used for three decades.
- Provided $712,000 spent on a project by researchers at Northwestern University to develop “machine-generated humor.”
- Buses in Winter Haven, Florida that average two riders per hour got $2.4 million so that the two riders per hour would have brand new buses to ride on.
- A Georgia Tech assistant music professor got $760,000 so he could jam with “world renowned musicians” to “create satisfying works of art.”
- The California Academy of Sciences got $2 million dollars to send people to the Indian Ocean to photograph ants. “Everyone has run into ants … now we need to listen to them,” one ant photographer said.
- The University of North Carolina received $762,000 to create a YouTube dance application.
- $462,000 to purchase 22 concrete toilets for use in the Mark Twain National Forest in Missouri. (now we all know where to go to take a dump on a taxpayer paid for crapper.)
- $3.1 million to transform a canal barge into a floating museum that will travel the Erie Canal in New York.
- $3.4 million to create an underground turtle tunnel, or eco-passage, in Lake Jackson, Florida.
- About a half-million dollars to give smartphones to people trying to quit smoking so they could “contact their quitting support groups by text message or phone calls to prevent relapses.” (I'm sure Apple Inc. loved that bill.)
- Almost $300,000 to study how Yoga might reduce menopausal hot flashes. (that went to a california Unviserity.)
- $983,952 for street beautification in Ann Arbor, Mich., including decorative lighting, trees, benches and bike paths. (isn't that what city stant and county taxes ussually take care of instead of the Federal Government?)
- $1 million for Portland, Ore., to replace 100 aging bike lockers and build a garage that would house 250 bicycles.
- $700,000 to Oregon crab fishermen to help recover lost crab pots.
- $1.5 billion for a Carbon Capturing Contest.
- $300,000 for a GPS-equipped helicopter to hunt for radioactive rabbit droppings at the Hanford nuclear reservation in Washington state. (yeah I didn't believe this one ethier when I had first read it but it is true. Bugs Bunny went nuclear.)
- SUNY Buffalo received $390,000 to study young adults who drink malt liquor and smoke marijuana.
- Montana received $2.2 million to install skylights in their state-run liquor warehouse. (wiat, the state of Montanna is so broke it can't afford to put in its own skylites. Ever heard of Bob Veela of"This Old House"?)
- $800,000 given to John Murtha Airport to repave a back runway used by about 20 passengers a day. This was in addition to millions given to this airport over the decades.
- $1 million was given to a Chicago dinner cruise company to “combat terrorism.” (Yeah, there is allot of terriorists on Lake Michigan. NOT!!!! How another campaign contributor kickback folks.)
- $30 million for a spring training baseball complex for the Arizona Diamondbacks and Colorado Rockies. both gave money to Obama.
- The Coast Guard gets $572 million to create 1,235 new jobs. This comes to $460,000 per job. (The only sens9ible thing on this list.
- $1.15 million to install a guardrail for a persistently dry lake bed in Guymon, Oklahoma.
- $2.5 million in stimulus checks sent to the deceased. (Yeah, to pay for all those graveyard voters that voted for Obama.)
- $6 million for a snow-making facility in Duluth, Minnesota. (Can't trust Mother Nature in one of the coldest states in the Union.)
- Millions spent on signs advertising the “American Reinvestment and Recovery Act.” (how about instead of trying to avertising the act, spend the money to pay off the National debt"?)

Now let's do a side trip to the General Motors and Chrysler. Remember how the United Auto Worker Unions Supported Obama?
- President Obama takes over two of three top U.S. automakers GM & Chrysler.
- Obama essentially fires GM CEO Rick Wagoner.
- Obama replaces the previous GM CEO with “Auto Czar” Steve Rattner, who had no experience in the automobile industry.
- Steven Rattner was appointed (without Senate confirmation) while he was under SEC investigation in NY for illegal kickbacks in exchange for pensions fraud.
- Rattner estimated the cost to U.S. taxpayers for auto bailouts at $14 billion.
- Obama deprives GM bondholders of their rightful compensation in order to maintain perquisites for United Auto Workers, which drove the company into bankruptcy to begin with. This is in violation of Article 1: Section 8 clause on uniform bankruptcies.
- Despite being called a “success,” at least 16,500 jobs were lost due to GM and Chrysler plant closures.
- Dealerships contracted with GM & Chrysler all over the country were shut down. Evidence suggests that Democrat-donating dealers were rescued from shutdowns.
- Obama’s touted “cash for clunkers” program was a fiasco that led to program mismanagement, taxpayer subsidized waste, and a temporary boost leading to original purchase levels.
- Thousands of cars were destroyed, harming the ability of the poor to have cheap transportation
- Evidence shows that the program led only to an increase in national fuel efficiency of 0.65 miles per gallon.
- As part of the GM takeover, Obama authorized billions to be spent subsidizing the electric-powered Chevy Volt.
- The car was alleged by many to be prone to spontaneous combustion. Every single Chevy Volt sold, all 8,000 of them, were recalled.


Now let's get to GEneral Electric.
- General Electric spent more than $65.7 million on lobbying during the Obama administration – more than any other company.
- Former GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt was made Obama’s “Jobs Czar,” technically, the head of the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness. Immelt once lamented that America was not more like Germany, where “business and government work… as a pack.” As writer Timothy Carney pointed out at the Washington Examiner, Germany is 49 of 57 countries ranked in terms of nascent entrepreneurship, and “the biggest German companies today – Allianz, Deutsche Bank, Daimler, Siemens, Volkswagen, Krupp – were the biggest companies 90 years ago.”
- GE has sent tens of thousands of its jobs overseas under Obama.
- GE spearheaded the commission that pushed through the ban on incandescent light bulbs. The company, along with Phillips, stood to make billions on toxic and overhyped compact fluorescent light bulbs. In the meantime, GE closed the last major incandescent plant in the country, meaning lost jobs here and thousands gained in China. The light bulb ban was later defunded by the Republican-led House, but not overturned.
- GE’s previously owned company MSNBC was notorious on both right and left for showing indisputably favorable coverage to Barack Obama during the 2008 election campaign. MSNBC was later bought out by Comcast, which now has a 51% majority share.

Solyndra:
- Another major green energy supplier, Solyndra, was famously given at least $535 million in government loans to produce solar energy panels, but later had to file bankruptcy.
- Solyndra was led by Tulsa Billionaire George Kaiser, a key Obama fundraiser who donated $53,500 to the president’s election campaign, and raised between $50,000 and $100,000 for the same cause.
- The Solyndra workers on unemployment received bonus payments of $13,000 each due to a trade law, in addition to their unemployment compensation.
- As reported by CBS, Solyndra was recently caught on film destroying millions in parts.
- Solyndra was a relatively minor recipient of green energy loans and subsidies. As reported by the NY Times, NRG Energy received nearly $1.6 billion to provide solar energy to about 100,000 homes. As the article points out, green energy companies can receive cash grants of up to 30% of a project up front instead of taking tax breaks in the future. This would mean NRG Energy can get a $430 million “bonus” after the project is completed.
- According to the Department of Energy, “clean energy” loans total over $35 billion, producing just 62,500 jobs. That calculates to $565,000 per job.
- The man Obama selected to oversee the Department of Energy, Steven Chu, once explicitly compared the American public to teenagers who need to be “educated” on the merits of “green energy.”
- Admitted communist Van Jones, who once said on live radio that his intention was to overthrow capitalism through the means of “eco-capitalism,” was tapped as Obama’s “Green Jobs Czar.” A former White House aide provides a testimonial that everyone who works close to the president is thoroughly vetted.
- Van Jones was later forced to resign, after months of major media stonewalling, only after it was discovered that the man was a verifiable 9/11 “Truther.”
- Van Jones was selected for the position by Obama confidante Valerie Jarrett, a fellow-traveling radical whose father Vernon Davis was a card-carrying communist who knew Frank Marshall Davis. Valerie Jarrett’s mentor was Marilyn Katz, who worked security for Students for a Democratic Society, knows William Ayers intimately, and penned a book with famous communist Carl Davidson.
- Former head of the Environmental Protect Agency Carol M. Browner, director of Obama’s Energy and Climate Change policy from 2009-2011, was reported by the Washington Times to have been a member of the Socialist Internationale’s Commission for a Sustainable World Society. (Note the number and variety of world leaders.)
- President Obama appointed former Bush adviser Howard Schmidt to be an unaccountable “Cyber Czar.” The announcement came as the Pentagon opened up its own cybercommand unit and the Department of Homeland Security hired 1,000 cybersecurity specialists.
- FCC Chair Julius Genachowski implemented rules tantamount to “Net Neutrality,” despite a court order reprimanding the agency for lacking the authority to do so. The House voted to strike down the “Open Internet” regulations, but the Senate recently voted against nullifying them. The regulations are currently in force, but it is unclear how long they will last.

Lightsquared:
- Lightsquared, a wireless technology firm, was given FCC exemptions to build out a 4G wireless network, allowing it to acquire bandwidth on the cheap. The owner of the company Phil Falcone was a campaign contributor to Obama to the tune of $30,400.
- Thousands of emails acquired under FOIA request suggest that the Obama administration pressured Air Force General William Shelton to stifle criticism of a potential Lightsquared military contract that the company’s operations could interfere with the military’s GPS positioning system.
- According to the Examiner, then-Senator Barack Obama was steered by financial advisor George Haywood into investing $90,000 in Lightsquared when it was called Skyterra. Billionaire investor George Soros, a well-known financier of radical causes, was also prominent as an investor