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Skeptikat 2012/07/06 13:34:49
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BUT - - all that said - - I wonder what happens in Massachusetts if you buy health insurance and then get sick AND YOUR INSURANCE KICKS YOU OFF. does the government pick up the tab?
or did Romney take away the insurance companies' rights to kick off people who got sick?
I also wonder what Massachusetts' stand is on preexisting conditions.
hmmmmmmm - - maybe I need to go back to my friends who live in MA and ask them these questions. still, if anyone here knows the answers, I'd appreciate knowing how these matters are handled there.
I know they don't covered this just making a point. Fact is people have no control what they are born with yet the insurance companies control the cost. Does it seem fair?
The major flaw I see with the provate HMO system and even Obamacare is that pre existing conditions will be overlooked as a fiscal negative when in reality they should have just as much weight as any other condition.
For example if I was American my neurological, mental health and physical issues wouldn't be taken into consideration, just like Cystic Fibrosis, MS, ALS, Muscular dystrophy or CFT.
On April 12, 2006, Governor Mitt Romney signed the health legislation. Romney vetoed eight sections of the health care legislation, (pay attention here)
................ including the controversial employer assessment.
Romney also vetoed provisions providing dental benefits to poor residents on the Medicaid program, and providing health coverage to senior and disabled legal immigrants not eligible for federal Medicaid. The legislature promptly overrode six of the eight gubernatorial section vetoes, on May 4, 2006, and by mid-June 2006 had overridden the remaining two.
So Mitt "tax credit" Romney did not believe that poor people need teeth?
Where does one draw the line with wiping people's asses for them? Where is it written that the state or federal govt. is supposed to provide every conceivable service for free? Besides, any emergency work is still available.
Now, go brush your tooth.
Funny thing, and you know it, is that all countries which have universal health care, and public insurance, spend a lot LESS on health care than America with its notorious for-profit "health" insurance mafia.
Don't forget to mow Romney's lawn to day, he plans to come and have a look at his Bermuda holdings (Sankaty High Yield Asset Investors Ltd).
Doctors & hospitals are forced to carry outrageous amounts of malpractice insurance which gets passed directly onto the consumers and increases costs for everyone.
The totals per capita reflect those costs and awards, insurance companies pay for multi-million dollar lawsuit without caps.
The progs bitch about doctors ordering unnecessary tests to cover their butt and in the same breath turn around and sue those same doctors for not having a crystal ball. Can't have it both ways.
Regardless, 0bozoTax will be repealed in it's entirety long before the jan. 2014 disaster is scheduled to kick in and the replacement package will be a REAL health-care reform bill and not an insurance & tax bill.
I can't mow the lawn today because the air conditioning system is being serviced.
But as to your assertion that he will replace it with a REAL health-care reform bill and not an insurance and tax bill, you're dreaming.
Insurance used to be for unforeseen calamity and now it's abused as a maintenance program. The $787 Billion stimulus package should have set aside about $200 Billion to construct low-cost walk-in clinics throughout the U.S.
They would have provided a cheap place for people to go instead of using the ER's for common colds, bumps & bruises.
They could have been locally owned and operated (buildings and equipment leased through the govt.) by an established MD in the area providing places for new doctors to work as interns.
It would have been a multi-purpose solution for many problems we faced in Jan. 2009 providing jobs in dozens of occupations and been a huge step towards affordable routine health-care for all.
There are many legitimate malpractice lawsuits and those should not be affected by tort reform and putting reasonable caps on awards.
I would like to see a reform that held attorney's, plaintiffs, and 'expert witnesses' criminally liable with mandatory prison sentences for bringing and or pursuing a bogus lawsuit.
I agree with some of your ideas, but not others to reform. The Republicans, however, have no ideas and no good ideas to insure most Americans, as was done in Massachusetts.
If I were in charge, I would have expanded access to Medicaid on a sliding scale to the states as was done in my state. You don't have to be poor to receive care. You can be working and just not have access to employee coverage or be unable to afford what's being offered. It's a good plan, but it does require some tax base from businesses. Most of them have adjusted. But it looks like there may be some issues in the Obamacare plan going forward, especially in the medical device industry here in Mass. as was shown in the link I found, interestingly. Anyway, fix not repeal is the answer. I hope Mitt catches on.
This entire process has been a scam 10X than what ANY news agency is talking about.
Paul Ryan NAILED it right in front of 0bozo & Joey over two yeas ago and surgically dissected the lies in 6 short minutes. This is a must see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
By the fact that this didn't alter the Constitution in any way..... it can and will be repealed by being replaced it with another bill which contains that exact wording to supersede any and all parts of the PPACA.
It is done every day in Congress where new law essentially nullifies old law in part or completely.
It makes no difference that it was deemed Constitutional as a tax by the SCOTUS because they don't write tax laws or any other legislation, only rule on them.
There is no such thing as a law or even a Constitutional article or amendment that's etched in stone for all time.
ANYTHING can be altered by Congress and 3/4 of the state's approval and the process doesn't involve the sitting President whatsoever.
This is a lengthy read but it shows exactly what went on behind the scenes and how this so-called health-care reform ha...
This entire process has been a scam 10X than what ANY news agency is talking about.
Paul Ryan NAILED it right in front of 0bozo & Joey over two yeas ago and surgically dissected the lies in 6 short minutes. This is a must see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
By the fact that this didn't alter the Constitution in any way..... it can and will be repealed by being replaced it with another bill which contains that exact wording to supersede any and all parts of the PPACA.
It is done every day in Congress where new law essentially nullifies old law in part or completely.
It makes no difference that it was deemed Constitutional as a tax by the SCOTUS because they don't write tax laws or any other legislation, only rule on them.
There is no such thing as a law or even a Constitutional article or amendment that's etched in stone for all time.
ANYTHING can be altered by Congress and 3/4 of the state's approval and the process doesn't involve the sitting President whatsoever.
This is a lengthy read but it shows exactly what went on behind the scenes and how this so-called health-care reform had nothing to do with what it claimed and why it was purposely designed to fail.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/my...
I do know that the SCOTUS has ruled a health tax Constitutional. I understand Romney is in a terrible pinch at the moment. His only choice is complete Repeal, which is perhaps a GOP plan to single payer, but it's not the Democrat plan.
I argue against Ryan speaking for all Americans. A great many support government run health care if it means more Americans receiving comprehensive coverage at a fair price.
There are no accusations to what Ryan said, the CBO has since agreed that their 2010 assessment was based upon what the WH put in front of them to score and with ALL the variables figured in, doesn't come close to reducing any deficits, instead raising the price tag well over $1.7 Trillion for only 6 years of full implementation. carry that out to the REAL 10 year period of 2024 and the numbers are staggering. Of course, it would have already collapsed long before then.
Ryan's plan phases out Social Security over a 30-40 years period and is 100% optional for anyone over 25 at the time it would begin.
Medicare is also and optional voucher system and NOBODY who is on the plan, or soon to be, would be denied any benefits. Once again, it's a phase out program that has been thoroughly lied about.
No, there isn't any stealth GOP plan in the works for a single payer universal nightmare. 85% of Americans were happy with the plans they had..... just wanted some reforms to keep premiums from skyrocketing (which they have since Mar 2010) and get rid of the Medicaid & Medicare waste.
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There are no accusations to what Ryan said, the CBO has since agreed that their 2010 assessment was based upon what the WH put in front of them to score and with ALL the variables figured in, doesn't come close to reducing any deficits, instead raising the price tag well over $1.7 Trillion for only 6 years of full implementation. carry that out to the REAL 10 year period of 2024 and the numbers are staggering. Of course, it would have already collapsed long before then.
Ryan's plan phases out Social Security over a 30-40 years period and is 100% optional for anyone over 25 at the time it would begin.
Medicare is also and optional voucher system and NOBODY who is on the plan, or soon to be, would be denied any benefits. Once again, it's a phase out program that has been thoroughly lied about.
No, there isn't any stealth GOP plan in the works for a single payer universal nightmare. 85% of Americans were happy with the plans they had..... just wanted some reforms to keep premiums from skyrocketing (which they have since Mar 2010) and get rid of the Medicaid & Medicare waste.
Fact is..... all of the FDR - Johnson programs are Ponzi schemes that would make Bernie Madoff smile. Any time a program is solely reliant on population growth out running the top tier recipients.... it's a pyramid scheme which is a felony in the USA.
The programs are unsustainable and Ryan along with Millions of Americans don't want to turn their heads and allow it all to collapse on the next generation. Ignoring the problem is no longer an option.
Phasing out Medicare and cutting it, along with Medicaid and SS is NOT what the vast majority of Americans want or need. It's not a health plan either.
By the way, you sound ignorant using the name Obozo.
Nice pic.
As I have posted elsewhere, include a criminal liability statute that carries a mandatory prison sentence for any attorney, plaintiff or 'expert witness' that is involved in filing or pursuing a fraudulent claim and the number of cases would drop, drastically.
The pic is authentic.
I always find it amazing that when a con can't come up with civil, respectful posts they resort to personal insults. Now, go grow up.