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Role of government: what should it be?

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It’s official: when we choose a President this fall, we will also
choose a theory on the role of government. The putative President and
the Mayor of New York both said it this week. Voters need to hear and
understand exactly what they said and what this means.


What Obama and Bloomberg said

Yesterday, Barack H. Obama traveled to Cleveland, Ohio. He gave a
rambling and almost petulant speech in this historic “battleground”
State. Mostly he said, “It’s all Bush’s fault,” or something amounting
to that. (Maybe he had read this Gallup Poll. Katie Pavlich has some other numbers that should set that record straight.)


But Obama said one thing worth hearing. The New York Times had two reporters on the ground to hear it:


Your vote will finally determine the path that we take as a nation — not just tomorrow, but for years to come.


In other words, Obama said that you will vote for more than a
President (or to be technical, Presidential Electors). You will vote for
a role of government. You will vote whether government will be your
nanny or your monitor and arbiter.


If you doubt that, Mayor Mike Bloomberg should remove that doubt.
Last week he made a rule that no convenience store, movie candy counter,
etc., could sell you a drink larger than 16 ounces. Soft drink bottlers
then took out a full page ad in the Times showing Bloomberg as “The Nanny.” (Or maybe as the title character in the Robin Williams movie Mrs. Doubtfire.)


What’s next? Limits on the width of a pizza slice, size of a hamburger or amount of cream cheese on your bagel?


Actually, popcorn and milkshakes are next. But Bloomberg brazenly said that he was only doing his job!


If [the role of government] isn’t to improve the health and longevity of its citizens, I don’t know what [that role] is.


The mayor then contradicted himself. He told his TV host that he
didn’t mean to tell people what to do. But he and his Board of Health
are doing just that!


Excuse me, Mr. (putative) President. Excuse me, Mr. Mayor. Obama is half right, and Bloomberg is totally wrong.


The proper role of government
The Constitution. It limits the role of government.

The US Constitution. Photo: National Archives of the United States


To “improve the health and [long life] of its citizens” (and lawful residents) is not the role of government. The Framers of the Constitution
never saw it that way. Nor is the role of government to guarantee you
an income, no matter what Richard A. Cloward and Frances Fox Piven said 56 years ago.


The role of government is to manage force. This role derives from a basic social principle: so long as humans live together, no one may start using force against another. But humans will
start using force, unless some other humans stop them, or deal with
them when they do. That is the proper role of government. That is why we
have government.


But the Progressive movement began with a new view of the role of government. They
first said that government must “improve the health and [long life]” of
those who live under it. And they didn’t stay with the Democratic
Party, or even start there. The first Progressive President was Theodore Roosevelt, a Republican.

So what does the role of government break down to? Three things:

Police

Military

Law courts

And that's it.

But what say you? Is Mayor Bloomberg right to say that the role of government is to "improve" your life, whether you think it could stand improving (and in that way) or not? Or do you believe, as I do, that your life is your own, and government's job is not to interfere with it, but instead to stop others from interfering?

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  • Kimmel 2012/06/15 18:21:43
    To protect your rights from wrongful use of force.
    Kimmel
    +18
    There is a very thin line between guaranteeing rights and taking them away.

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  • Chi~Cat 2012/06/16 04:10:27
    To protect your rights from wrongful use of force.
    Chi~Cat
    +10
    And, get their schnozzes out of my business.
  • Maria R 2012/06/16 03:58:40
    To protect your rights from wrongful use of force.
    Maria R
    +8
    We don't need no f**king nanny. We need an army on the border and someone watching our back. Other than that, get the hell outta the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • jackolantyrn356 2012/06/16 02:59:49
    Undecided
    jackolantyrn356
    +5
    Read the Constitution and get a clue. Incluse the slavery Laws the Democrats insisted on having. and discover the fact that these Slavery Laws wre eliminated by Republicans. Who you gonna vote for DUFUS?
  • Lee jackola... 2012/06/17 23:54:53
    Lee
    Dumb A$$.

    When the Constitution was written, there were no Democrats yet.
  • Barbara Hasler 2012/06/16 02:21:25 (edited)
    To protect your rights from wrongful use of force.
    Barbara Hasler
    +5
    The Constitution outlines the Individual Rights of the Citizens and the duties of the government. No where does it say that the government was to provide any more than a standing army and the treasury. Today we have a garguatan government wasting money at a rapid pace. We need to cut the government in half and also cut the nonsensical ad nausium regulations by three-fourths. It is time for the citizenry to get common sense and stop the government from trying to think for them. I personally believe that anyone displaying common sense should be considered a genius.
  • Lee Barbara... 2012/06/17 21:02:55 (edited)
    Lee
    +1
    The Constitution outlines the duties of government in broad strokes.

    The Constitution tells us that govenment must establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.

    It's left up to us how to accomplish those mandates.

    Unfortunately, very few "Conservatives" have much common sense.
  • Barbara... Lee 2012/06/18 02:34:48
    Barbara Hasler
    +2
    You are interpreting "General Welfare" as a welfare state. It is not meant to be a hand out from the government. It is allowing people to create business and hire people thus creating a life for themselves and others. In the days when the Constitution was written the churches and the people provided for those who were down on their luck not the government. It is the libs that are waiting for the free lunch.
  • Lee Barbara... 2012/06/18 03:16:22
    Lee
    +1
    I am interpretting the General Welfare as the Common Good.

    It is exactly what it is.

    I didn't say anything about "hand outs."
  • Barbara... Lee 2012/06/18 23:27:38
    Barbara Hasler
    If I read your post correctly you mean opportunity for all with which I totally agree.
  • Lee Barbara... 2012/06/19 00:05:35
    Lee
    +1
    Yes.

    Then we're on the same page.
  • Barbara... Lee 2012/06/19 16:08:48
    Barbara Hasler
    +1
    Thank you! See there can be consenses! Too bad it isn't that way in DC.
  • Rusty Shackleford 2012/06/16 02:11:51
    To protect your rights from wrongful use of force.
    Rusty Shackleford
    +9
    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
  • Lee Rusty S... 2012/06/17 19:09:02 (edited)
    Lee
    That's not the law of the land dumbo.

    The law of the land says that govenment must establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.


    If you don't like our Constitution, then move your traitorous right wing A$$ on down the road.

    And no, the government does not need the consent of Right Wing Nut Job Traitorous scum.

    Got it yet ??
  • Rusty S... Lee 2012/06/17 19:36:08
    Rusty Shackleford
    +3
    "Secure the Blessings of Liberty"

    Gee, I wonder what they meant by that.
  • Lee Rusty S... 2012/06/17 20:58:30
    Lee
    . . . Exactly what it says,
  • Rusty S... Lee 2012/06/17 22:23:20
    Rusty Shackleford
    +3
    Were we Blessed by government?
  • Lee Rusty S... 2012/06/17 23:49:20
    Lee
    Absolutely!

    The Constitution of the United States Constitution, which RWNJ"s claim to revere but in reality treat like garbage, set up a workable government for this nation.

    And yes, absolutely, good governance and the government that provides it is a blessing to this nation and its citizens.
  • ReconMa... Rusty S... 2012/06/22 19:33:24
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +1
    He has Been Deactivated...lol~!!!
  • ReconMa... Rusty S... 2012/06/22 19:32:45
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +1
    BINGO..!!!!!!!!
  • ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM 2012/06/16 02:03:26 (edited)
    To protect your rights from wrongful use of force.
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +9
    Protect Our Freedoms...Follow The Constitution....Protect Our Borders Against Our Enimies....

    land of the free the constitution http://www.sussexcountyboardo... protect freedoms constitution protect borders enimies httpwww sussexcountyboardo
  • john Kills 2012/06/16 02:01:49
    To protect your rights from wrongful use of force.
    john Kills
    +9
    If government is functioning properly, you shouldn't even know it exists
  • Lee john Kills 2012/06/17 19:10:41
    Lee
    Bull Sh*t.
  • Leasheryn/Lady Willpower 2012/06/16 01:59:10
    Undecided
    Leasheryn/Lady Willpower
    +8
    Limited...very limited.
  • Lee Leasher... 2012/06/17 20:57:43
    Lee
    I agree . . . If you're talking about the intelligence of the typical Right Winger.
  • Leasher... Lee 2012/06/18 01:23:29
    Leasheryn/Lady Willpower
    +3
    As opposed to the complete and total ignorance of the typical leftist?
  • ReconMa... Leasher... 2012/06/22 19:34:23
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +2
    He has been deactivated...lol~!!!
  • Leasher... ReconMa... 2012/06/23 01:18:10
    Leasheryn/Lady Willpower
    +2
    Good. Glad to know it! :-))
  • ReconMa... Leasher... 2012/06/23 21:11:36
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +1
    Well...Looks Like SH has Let Him Back...:-(
  • XZQZQ 2012/06/16 01:36:07
    To protect your rights from wrongful use of force.
    XZQZQ
    +6
    The proper role of the central government is to protect the Life, Liberty, and Private Property of the citizens.
  • Confederate 2012/06/16 01:11:59
    To improve your life, by force if necessary.
    Confederate
    im a E.U. marine by the sword americans shall submit to us. Just like their president Barack H. Obama.
  • ReconMa... Confede... 2012/06/16 02:07:08 (edited)
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +8
    ?????????
    Have no idea what you are saying...
    You Are A Sock....
  • Confede... ReconMa... 2012/06/16 03:25:13
    Confederate
    Less you know the better :)
  • ReconMa... Confede... 2012/06/16 04:32:42
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +5
    EU Marine My A$$...Americans Shall Submit to You...What a Joke That is...
  • Confede... ReconMa... 2012/06/16 14:46:24
  • Lee Confede... 2012/06/18 03:19:03
    Lee
    The Recon Moron doesn't know very much to start with . . . and if you shared any facts with him, they would be scrambled to pulp in no time in that sloshy Right Wing Brain of his.
  • Franklin Confede... 2012/06/16 14:38:27
    Franklin
    +12
    EU ? as in the failed socialist program over there that we are supporting ? The whole EU put together + England could not stand up to the armed rednecks in Alabama alone-
  • Chi~Cat Franklin 2012/06/16 18:55:08
    Chi~Cat
    +7
    Epic answer!
  • Barefoo... Franklin 2012/06/16 19:40:53
  • ReconMa... Franklin 2012/06/17 03:13:51
    ReconMarine~AVA/POTL/JLA/PWCM
    +6
    Definitely Got That Right...
  • Lee Franklin 2012/06/18 03:20:07 (edited)
    Lee
    You haven't gotten any smarter have you.

    Why do sickos, idiots, and sexual perverts flock to the Republican Party like moths to a flame?

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