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Rodney King Dead at 47: Icon or Agitator?

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Rodney King, the victim of an infamous incident of police brutality in 1991, was found dead at the bottom of his swimming pool Sunday morning. According to police, there are no signs of foul play, and the death is being ruled as accidental. It will take six to eight weeks for toxicology reports to come through. He was 47 years old at the time of his death.

The 1991 brutality incident made national headlines when a bystander sent in video footage, and the aquittal of three of the officers contributed to the beginning of the 1992 Los Angeles riots. Earlier this year, King told The Times, "I sometimes feel like I'm caught in a vise. Some people feel like I'm some kind of hero. Others hate me. They say I deserved it. Other people, I can hear them mocking me for when I called for an end to the destruction, like I'm a fool for believing in peace." Do you think King was an civil rights icon?

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  • MkB 2012/06/18 21:26:11 (edited)
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    King started a dangerous high speed car chase because he was intoxicated and didn't want to violate his parole for a 1989 store robbery. I'm not making excuses for the police brutality. That was uncalled for.

    I feel empathy for Reginald Denny, an innocent truck driver who happened to be driving in the wrong place at the wrong time and got hit on his head by a brick by a black man who didn't give a damn if he killed Denny or not.

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  • Zuggi NUCKLED... 2012/06/25 13:20:51
    Zuggi
    Yes, I watched the video. They took King down, then proceeded to whale on him for quite some time. The takedown could be explained by circumstances. The subsequent beating could not.
  • mustang... Zuggi 2012/07/27 03:16:58
    mustangluver
    LOL wrong as usual. He resisted so much that they started beating him.
  • Zuggi mustang... 2012/07/27 06:03:43
    Zuggi
    +1
    And then they continued beating him well beyond the point of any resistance.
  • mustang... Zuggi 2012/07/28 06:49:04
    mustangluver
    I said that..
  • dh57 2012/06/21 21:51:42
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    Rodney was the unfortunate person of circumstance, nothing more. After all, his thoughts were simple, "why can't we all just get along". Too bad he's gone.
  • closinyou dh57 2012/06/22 15:47:03
    closinyou
    The reply button is too close to "thumbs up" button! MY mistake.
    How is it unfortunate when he created the circumstances?
  • Command... closinyou 2012/06/22 23:14:54
    Commander Pyle
    It's not like he said "Go get your children and gets you sum of that free tv on 24th and 3rd!"
  • closinyou Command... 2012/06/23 02:27:29
    closinyou
    CUZ THATS WHERE YOU DRAW THE LINE, RIGHT?

    Does this willful ignorance work in everyday life for you as well? Lets pretend you work for an architect. You've been given the task to draw up the blueprints for a VIP client. The deadline arrives and your not ready. The boss is mad and asks for an explanation. You say, "at least I didn't blow up the clients house"! Will you remain employed?

    There's a huge problem with this way of thinking! Try it next time you get pulled over for speeding. Tell the officer, "at least I'm not trying to kill you!" Get back to me with how that works out!
  • Command... closinyou 2012/07/08 02:40:48
    Commander Pyle
    Willful ignorance? Obviously, the police played no part. None at all. Only the negro.

    There's a problem with your way of thinking, namely such that your little scenario doesn't compare too this situation.
  • closinyou Command... 2012/07/08 06:19:09
    closinyou
    The only one with the problem is you! I said nothing about a "negro"! Someday I sincerely hope you are able to see others for who they are and not the amount of melanin that persons skin contains!
    Willful ignorance - YES EXACTLY Rodney King willfully ignored the police and was willfully drunk and willfully running from the police and willfully charging at officers who were still allowing King to surrender without a fight which led to the "will" of King being taken away from him! Kings "will" was NOT for peace! He didn't care about "getting along" until his "will" was to be rich and to fuel the racial fire.

    It's no surprise you defend him! You both want to be victims of racism! Get over the color of you skin... everyone else has!

    My scenario is the scenario you presented! In essence you just admitted there is a problem with YOUR way of thinking! You added further evidence for this by way of your response!
  • Command... closinyou 2012/07/12 02:09:10
  • closinyou Command... 2012/07/08 06:48:02
    closinyou
    It's not my little scenario! You introduced it two boxes above this one! I simply showed you how right you are. Only thing is your right in that YOUR SCENARIO isn't relative in this situation and therefore presents a problem in your way of thinking!
  • Robert 2012/06/21 21:17:03
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    He wasn't perfect and who is? He was speeding and wouldn't stop for the police and the punishment is an immediate near to death beating by the police? In America? But, they were better than the ones who beat Reginald Denny. That's what happens when a people are pushed too far. They attack everything. Whites ought to know, look at all of the race riots that has happened here. Isn't that what they do? I suppose if George Holliday didn't film the beating the police would have reported that they had beaten King. Made sure he made it to the hospital, received health care and drug treatment. After all, how many times have we seen this happen to white kids. They would get the same treatment that character did in the movie "Higher Learning." Think I'm lying? How many times have we heard of whites drawing guns in the presence of the police and not getting shot? Was Reginald King the agitator? He started it! Maybe he was scared to stop! No one's ever been beaten for asking the police what did I do? And then after they beat you, they charge you with assault! Those 4 cops who tried to beat and stun gun him to death were the agitators, High unemployment and police harassment was the agitator. There were constant complaints about no jobs and police harassment. Yes there was ...
    He wasn't perfect and who is? He was speeding and wouldn't stop for the police and the punishment is an immediate near to death beating by the police? In America? But, they were better than the ones who beat Reginald Denny. That's what happens when a people are pushed too far. They attack everything. Whites ought to know, look at all of the race riots that has happened here. Isn't that what they do? I suppose if George Holliday didn't film the beating the police would have reported that they had beaten King. Made sure he made it to the hospital, received health care and drug treatment. After all, how many times have we seen this happen to white kids. They would get the same treatment that character did in the movie "Higher Learning." Think I'm lying? How many times have we heard of whites drawing guns in the presence of the police and not getting shot? Was Reginald King the agitator? He started it! Maybe he was scared to stop! No one's ever been beaten for asking the police what did I do? And then after they beat you, they charge you with assault! Those 4 cops who tried to beat and stun gun him to death were the agitators, High unemployment and police harassment was the agitator. There were constant complaints about no jobs and police harassment. Yes there was crime but even innocent, hard working citizens were harassed. They are harassed by the criminals and the police. They had no help. That Korean grocer, Soon Ja Du who blew that 15 year old girl named Latasha Harlins' brains out after accusing her of stealing a bottle of orange juice was the agitator. Accused her of stealing and she hadn't even left the store. Blew out her brain over a bottle of orange juice! What was his sentence? Suspended and community service. Some of us were disgusted about the whole thing. Even Rodney King cried out "Can't we all get along.
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  • Bill Robert 2012/06/22 13:14:42
    Bill
    Oh, the humanity. Oh, the racism. Oh, the police brutality. Blacks would never treat their own like that. It's only because of racism. Here's my evidence.

    Man shot on camera by the police - Police brutality
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
  • closinyou Robert 2012/06/23 02:32:14
    closinyou
    King charging the officers, not complying after being taised, resisting orders by multiple officers and taunting officers with insults had nothing to do with the officers decision to use physical force!

    Keep the race fire burning but when you get burned, remember you're the one pouring the gasoline!
  • Robert closinyou 2012/06/28 15:18:13
    Robert
    I looked at the tape, he charged the cops? When? He didn't at the beginning of the tape. You were a witness? He taunted the cops with insults? The tape had no audio! Oh, I know, you believe the cops! I'm pouring the gas but who made the gasoline? OK, I'm pouring gasoline, you are completely correct, the police are always right. Rodney King was completely in the wrong. He had absolutely no right to do anything that he did which was lay down, and roll around. You mean to tell me that at no time, the police couldn't have stopped beating him and sat on him and cuffed him? At around 1:05-1:10 during the beating, he was lying still. You're telling me, that the only thing the police could have done was to continue beat him? And you are telling me that I'm keeping the race fire burning. and I'm the one pouring the gasoline?
  • closinyou Robert 2012/07/08 06:51:06
    closinyou
    Eye witnesses testified that King charged police. Just because its not on video doesn't mean it didn't happen!

    The fire would burn even better with pure alcohol! But then everyone would realize what you're really up to. It's not as fun being a bigot racist when everyone knows it, is it?
  • Robert closinyou 2012/07/05 19:00:15
    Robert
    As an American citizen, Rodney King deserved to have his day in court where he could be accused and no doubt, convicted of reckless driving, etc. I don't think any reasonable jury would have acquitted him. You insist that he did the wrong thing, although you never wrote what that was and that the correct action of the police is the beating that he received. Funny, though, as a result of this beating, police departments have installed cameras in their squad cars and a number of officers have been caught, on tape, of using excessive force as well as helping with backing the arresting office who charged the criminal with resisting arrest and assault of a police officer, etc.. As a result I've concluded closinyou, that your opinion that my "keep the race fires burning but when you get burned (this sounds like you are threatening me because you've determined that I will "get burned". You are threatening me you know. Do not judge lest ye shall be judged) on this subject is typical of the white supremacist and that I should feel threatened by you. Especially considering the fact that your handle is "closinyou" and not your name. The average white supremacist doesn't like to be challenged on issues of racism white supremacy and therefore, contends that if a person of color make...
    As an American citizen, Rodney King deserved to have his day in court where he could be accused and no doubt, convicted of reckless driving, etc. I don't think any reasonable jury would have acquitted him. You insist that he did the wrong thing, although you never wrote what that was and that the correct action of the police is the beating that he received. Funny, though, as a result of this beating, police departments have installed cameras in their squad cars and a number of officers have been caught, on tape, of using excessive force as well as helping with backing the arresting office who charged the criminal with resisting arrest and assault of a police officer, etc.. As a result I've concluded closinyou, that your opinion that my "keep the race fires burning but when you get burned (this sounds like you are threatening me because you've determined that I will "get burned". You are threatening me you know. Do not judge lest ye shall be judged) on this subject is typical of the white supremacist and that I should feel threatened by you. Especially considering the fact that your handle is "closinyou" and not your name. The average white supremacist doesn't like to be challenged on issues of racism white supremacy and therefore, contends that if a person of color makes a complaint of racist treatment, they, themselves are the racist. To use your logic, all of the victims of home invasions, car jackings and assault with a deadly weapon, are according to you, the home invader, the car jacker and the assaulter. I don't care to dialog with white supremacists, especially one as unrepentant as you are who insists that the police in the Rodney King beating had no other recourse but to continue to beat him and at no time should simply subdue him, handcuff him, arrest him and read him his rights. You are closinyou, incapable of respecting the view of someone who only insists that justice be served.
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  • closinyou Robert 2012/06/23 02:36:01
    closinyou
    police aren't there to "get along" they are there to arrest those who are UNWILLING TO GET ALONG! Give it a rest!
  • Robert closinyou 2012/06/28 13:51:28
    Robert
    Well, they should have just arrested him then. Beating him 50+ times in the head was an arrest. If that was all that it was then why did congress get involved? I remember Senator Bill Bradley comment on the beating. If all that they did was arrest them, then why was did they have to go to court over the issue. And, why did they move the trial to Simi Valley?
  • closinyou Robert 2012/07/29 01:45:43
    closinyou
    NOW HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT "JUST ARRESTING" SOMEONE THAT RESISTS ARREST?

    Just arrest him! Spend one day in the shoes of an LAPD officer and you will come to learn thats exactly what they did...despite Kings efforts to avoid being arrested.
  • Robert closinyou 2012/08/02 13:49:11
    Robert
    Once again, watch the tape. If five armed men can't arrest one, then they need to be fired!
  • closinyou Robert 2012/08/02 20:19:07
    closinyou
    Or, if one man can't follow the orders of 5 armed men in a position of authority and has proven to be unwilling to abide by the law, and refusing to obey their commands, then he needs to be forced to obey!
    It took 5 armed men because, unlike King who was willing to do whatever he had to to avoid arrest, these officers refrained from doing whatever they could to stop King. Otherwise only one officer would have been needed and King would have been dead along time ago! Remember, all 5 were armed!
  • Robert closinyou 2012/08/09 15:04:36
    Robert
    You hate, that much? What is wrong with you. He's dead now drop it. 5 cops can't arrest man? You're like a rabid Pit Bull.
  • closinyou Robert 2012/08/10 04:51:04
    closinyou
    I don't hate at all! I'm realistic. Love doesn't eliminate discipline! It demands it! The man was wrong, he was disciplined!
    Ad Hominem does nothing to help your position!
    "He's dead now drop it."
    I didn't ask the question or force you to answer it... drop it? You're not good with defeat are you?
    "5 cops can't arrest man?"
    Yes they can. Thats what this is all about remember? Like I said, one could have handled it, but it took 5 because King wasn't cooperative!
    "You're like a rabid Pit Bull."
    Wrong again. The man you defend, was an example of a rabid pit bull! Apparently, I'm too aggressive but King was not! Strange world you live in!
  • Robert closinyou 2012/08/10 21:44:43
    Robert
    Yeah, he was a rabid pitbull laying on the ground getting beating in the head by five policemen. I'd like to see you get beaten by five nightsticks. Put your mouth where your action is. Go out tonight, get drunk and start a fight and do enough resisting and take a beating like he did. You have it in you. Do it and tell me you it feels. You hate and you're just explaining how much. You can't see that five armed men should be able to arrest one with no problem. Two or three young thugs would have done better. They call your condition, "Authoritarian. People who side with authority no matter how wrong they are. Google "The Authoritarians." And you're probably a a good ole Christian too, all full of forgiveness and mercy. Oh Jesus did for my sins! Here's another one for you to get off on. http://woldcnews.com/1017766/...
  • Robert closinyou 2012/08/17 16:45:45
    Robert
    Love? Discipline? Where did you learn that type of discipline from. Obviously you've learned it since you claim other should have this. Not cooperative? Define that? Where did you learn that type of cooperation? CONFESS! Lying still long enough for one of them to knee him in the back and handcuff him? Instead five armed men at the beat him 51 times in the head? They kept beating him because they were surprised they didn't knock him out or kill him. Five armed and trained men beating on one unarmed man look like a bunch of thugs and punks. Since you're sympathetic to the cops, its gangs that like to gang up on one person are your type. That's why, after they stopped him and pulled him out of the car, you insist that he did something wrong when he did't lie still. Maybe when you got beaten into your gang and beat others in you learned to lie still the required amount of time and take a brutal beating. Because to be honest with you, I would have kept crawling too after I realized that they weren't going to stop beating me and just arrest me. I remember when I was a kid and my mother would whip me, I ran too. She kept yelling "hold still" but I couldn't. None of the cops standing there could have shouted, ok he's down now just subdue him and read him his rights? Rodney probably thought they were going to beat him to death. Can't say that hasn't happened before can you?
  • closinyou Robert 2012/08/18 05:15:27
    closinyou
    You assume everyone is just like you! My mother never beat me! Why would she, I respected her and she respected herself enough to discipline her children as a mother should. By doing so, she taught us how to behave. We learned how to respect our elders and those in authority!
    Your childhood was a bit different, by your own admission. You were taught to run. You were left no option but to run. Respecting others isn't necessary! Your mother taught you that accountability only factors in, if your caught. King got caught!
    Who caught him? Those who you call "thugs and punks" Have you ever wondered why you see cops in this light? If so, you might consider asking your mom.
    You also wrongfully assume I was in gangs growing up! I'm unsure as to how you arrive at such a ridiculous assumption but if I had to guess, I'd guess your childhood included gang membership.
    Heres the best part... You disagree with my efforts to defend the cops involved and attribute my support to those things which shaped YOUR childhood, not mine, yet fail to realize our difference in opinion, destroys your point. By your logic, YOU should hold the same view I do.
    Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions.
  • Robert closinyou 2012/08/23 15:53:53
  • closinyou Robert 2012/08/25 05:01:04
    closinyou
    Unreal! The results are in... pot, PCP, cocaine and alcohol all found in Kings system. Defend him and call him an icon all you want, but King was no icon! The man was loser, druggie, alcoholic! Thats no icon, unless your dream is that some day, your kids will grow up to be just like King. NO THANKS
    My childhood? Both parents, married (over 40yrs now) same house, same goals, worked together, loved eachother as well as us and showed it, always disciplined, spankings, mouth slaps, soap in the mouth, a 2 foot wooden paddle, groundings, loss of privileges,e etc... I WOULDN'T WANT IT ANY OTHER WAY!

    If you have kids, you can see what happens when discipline consists of talking about it and no real punishment! Watch what happens to the level of respect shown! Do nothing as far as discipline goes, and the result is "All of these mass shootings, etc."

    Your pathetic in your need to fuel the racial fire! GIVE IT A REST! Or should I say, black people never do that. Bigotry is out! If you wanna make this black vs white, we can. However, based on the facts (prison populations, crime statistics etc) I wouldn;t recommend it! Those "white parents" you mention, evidently are doing something that works!
    Get over the color of your skin and look at the color of your heart! I bet it matches mine!
    I will not continue to correspond if you choose to make this "BLACK VS WHITE" conversation. Take care!
  • Robert closinyou 2012/08/31 14:46:28
  • closinyou Robert 2012/08/31 15:15:59
    closinyou
    My parents are over 65 now. i'm 34 with 3 kids a wife and a career!
    You are not worth my time! You are not worth my time. I was 13 when it happened. I've had 21 years to form an opinion and review the information. From my parents roof top, the burning buildings were visible. You can try to rationalize your ignorance and prejudice any way you like. The problem however, is that if I was or am too young, then it can also be argued that you are now too old to recall the events that took place 21 yrs ago.
    When you lose it, theres no getting it back! Take care!

    Listen to your children, they know whats best for you now!
  • Robert closinyou 2012/08/31 21:18:50
    Robert
    I'm 53 and as I said, you're a child to me. You were 12 in 1991 and was 31. Who's wasting who's time? You can't win this one and claiming that I'm ignorant is ridiculous. You can't accept a difference of opinion that I'm a bit more capable of understanding than you can..That is your immaturity showing. Just read it, don't write back because I won't respond. You're to young to discuss this with the way you are behaving. An article about cops saving the lives from overdose users instead of arresting them or as you like beating them half to death.
    http://www.alternet.org/drugs...
  • closinyou Robert 2012/08/31 21:42:06
    closinyou
    AGE DOESN'T DICTATE UNDERSTANDING!

    You have it backwards,
    "Just read it, don't write back because I won't respond."
    THEN
    "That is your immaturity showing"

    Plug your ears and close your eyes. Cuz thats not the way of the ignorant at all!
  • Robert closinyou 2012/09/06 14:54:39
    Robert
    It figures.... Typical hard headed youngster talking about something and they don't know what they're talking about. You're learn one day....A hard head makes a soft ass.

    Read this: Startling video shows police hit black teen in head with gun
    Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:23PM GMT
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    http://presstv.com/usdetail/2...

    Last week, a Fox News station in Baltimore, Maryland, received a surveillance video showing a Prince County, Maryland, cop beating a teenager in the head with a gun.

    Ryan Dorm had not committed a crime, but despite this the cops considered him and a friend suspicious. The two men were wearing ski masks while buying food at a gas station on Perry Street in Brentwood, Maryland. Dorm later said he was wearing a ski mask because it was cold.

    Corporal Donald Taylor said Dorm had assaulted him and his gun went off as he struggled with Dorm. The surveillance video, released after Dorm had spent months in prison, reveals what has now become routine – the cop lied and an innocent man spent time in prison.

    Taylor was indicted after the video was made public. He faces misconduct, reckless endangerment and second-degree assault charges. Dorm’s lawyer, Jimmy Bell, has filed a $10 million dollar civil lawsuit in the case.

    Unfortunately, Maryland tax payers will end up paying for the psychop...



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    It figures.... Typical hard headed youngster talking about something and they don't know what they're talking about. You're learn one day....A hard head makes a soft ass.

    Read this: Startling video shows police hit black teen in head with gun
    Wed Sep 5, 2012 1:23PM GMT
    Share

    http://presstv.com/usdetail/2...

    Last week, a Fox News station in Baltimore, Maryland, received a surveillance video showing a Prince County, Maryland, cop beating a teenager in the head with a gun.

    Ryan Dorm had not committed a crime, but despite this the cops considered him and a friend suspicious. The two men were wearing ski masks while buying food at a gas station on Perry Street in Brentwood, Maryland. Dorm later said he was wearing a ski mask because it was cold.

    Corporal Donald Taylor said Dorm had assaulted him and his gun went off as he struggled with Dorm. The surveillance video, released after Dorm had spent months in prison, reveals what has now become routine – the cop lied and an innocent man spent time in prison.

    Taylor was indicted after the video was made public. He faces misconduct, reckless endangerment and second-degree assault charges. Dorm’s lawyer, Jimmy Bell, has filed a $10 million dollar civil lawsuit in the case.

    Unfortunately, Maryland tax payers will end up paying for the psychopathic behavior of Donald Taylor. He should have never been hired as a policeman. Police need to be rigorously tested for signs of psychopathy and sadism.

    Cops who assault citizens without reason should be immediately fired and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Prosecuting and incarcerating violent cops will help make sure other cops know such unacceptable behavior will go punished. Infowars

    FACTS & FIGURES

    An increasing number of incidents where U.S. police forces use excessive force against American citizens is causing anti-police sentiment across the nation.

    In late August, a startling video that went viral on internet showed two Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) officers snatching a female driver and violently slamming her body into the ground - twice. The woman's alleged offense? Talking on her cell phone while driving and, subsequently, resisting arrest. As a result of the trauma, Michelle Jordan, 34, sustained intensive bruising and other related blemishes and injuries. Prison Planet

    Also in August, Chavis Carter, a 21-year-old Mississippi man, was found shot to death in the back of a Jonesboro Police Department squad car. Arkansas police report concluded that Carter who was searched twice by officers before being handcuffed behind his back shot himself in the head in the back of the squad car.

    The Los Angeles Police Department is investigating at least five officers after one of them allegedly stomped on a woman’s genitals and she later died of suffocation. Raw Story

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  • U-Dog 2012/06/21 20:50:46
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    Rodney King spent his entire life as an excuse making criminal bum who only ever showed regret for causing harm after he screwed up. If he and others like him ever had one true purpose in this universe it was as fertilizer.
  • BoomLover U-Dog 2012/06/21 23:24:29
    BoomLover
    That is a bit harsh........shades of "Soylent Green"...
  • U-Dog BoomLover 2012/06/21 23:35:48
    U-Dog
    +1
    I can't help your wild and crazy visions of cannibalism... We are all going to turn back to dust and fertilizer for nature at some point, and the only point I was making about losers like King is that becoming fertilizer again seems to be their biggest positive contribution to life.
  • closinyou U-Dog 2012/07/29 01:47:58
    closinyou
    +1
    TRUE... and to rob, steal and destroy their own city! Give credit where credit is due! ;)
  • Frank 2012/06/21 20:48:26 (edited)
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    +3
    Unfortunately, I had to choose one of these ridiculous answers in order to comment. I don't believe the guy was either. He was a troubled man who nearly got beaten to death by a pack of other troubled men, who happened to be paid by our tax dollars. King certainly more than paid for his crimes. At least two of the errant officers did not.



    I can't call King an "agitator", because he didn't agitate anything. The man himself called for PEACE, for crying out loud. And while he became a symbol of police brutality and bigotry, he isn't exactly worthy of the title "icon" either. So, the parameters here are ridiculous. The man was an alcoholic who did things some alcoholics do. He sought treatment, more than once, and still met an early and tragic end. But most people are going to paint him and his life with their own racial attitudes, like they do everything else.

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