Robert Reich says no stimulus money for white males. Should white males be excluded from stimulus money?

by FanOreilly Posted January 23, 2009 09:09:42

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	Yes, white males should not recieve stimulus money	25 votes	9%
	No, dividing Americans by race is wrong	267 votes	91%

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Margaret January 23, 2009 15:14:31

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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Gee...forward one class of people while holding another down..TRUE racism. Institutionalized racism at that. Guess the old signs can come back out....pathetic.
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mike June 14, 2009 22:44:27 (edited)

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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From what I have read, the stimulus packages were going to "inner city residents" not being distributed equally among us all. Giving stimulus money to inner city people is wrong. Most of the "inner city residents" are homeless, jobless, basically drains on americas economy as they do not contribute. I say this: Instead of paying people to remain jobless, why not give them jobs instead of money? Give the stimulus checks to those americans who contribute instead to those who drain? As for a racial standpoint? Texas leaders have already declared that the majority of people there are non white. Making white people a minority. Now, how does this sound? Any individual applying for state funded medical care is usually turned down unless #1 pregnant, or #2 non white. Minorities get more from the government as it is. Since texas has declared whites a minority, why all this black white bs in the first place? We are in this together no matter what color. I know alot of black people. They all are hard working contributors deserving of the stimulus package money. What about the hard working whites? Discrimination anyone?

On a further note, here's a copy paste of a letter I received before elections last yr:

We checked this out on
" snopes.com". It is factual.
Check for yourself.

Who is Ba...'""'''''""''''""'

From what I have read, the stimulus packages were going to "inner city residents" not being distributed equally among us all. Giving stimulus money to inner city people is wrong. Most of the "inner city residents" are homeless, jobless, basically drains on americas economy as they do not contribute. I say this: Instead of paying people to remain jobless, why not give them jobs instead of money? Give the stimulus checks to those americans who contribute instead to those who drain? As for a racial standpoint? Texas leaders have already declared that the majority of people there are non white. Making white people a minority. Now, how does this sound? Any individual applying for state funded medical care is usually turned down unless #1 pregnant, or #2 non white. Minorities get more from the government as it is. Since texas has declared whites a minority, why all this black white bs in the first place? We are in this together no matter what color. I know alot of black people. They all are hard working contributors deserving of the stimulus package money. What about the hard working whites? Discrimination anyone?

On a further note, here's a copy paste of a letter I received before elections last yr:

We checked this out on
" snopes.com". It is factual.
Check for yourself.

Who is Barack Obama?

Probable U. S.
presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was bornin Honolulu, Hawaii,
to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel,
Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white Athiest fromWichita, Kansas.

Obama's parents met at
the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents
divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married
Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia.

When Obama was 6 years
old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM
school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school.

Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school."

Obama's political
handlers are attempting to make it appear that that he is not a radical.

Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was
temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after
the divorce, and never again had any direct ifluence over his son's education.

Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta.

Wahabism is the RADICAL ISLAMIC teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically
expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the
United St ates, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of
Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.

Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegience nor will he show any
reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts,
Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches.

Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.

The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the
United States, one of their own!!!!

Please forward to
everyone you know. Would you want this man leading

our country?...... NOT ME!!!

Address, E-mail, Phone and Website..........Located at bottom of page.

E-mail your401kman@msn.com
Website www.the401ksupercenter.com
Cell 910-850-6188

Travis Truelove
348 Tom Starling Road
Fayetteville, N.C. 28306

Now, considering the nature if this letter, claims f being muslim... I just read on yahoo news day before yesterday that "president barrack obama was just reading through the koran. While doing so, he figured that he can surely make peace with muslims in the middle east and bring peace to warring countries". Now, I ask a couple of questions. #1, Isn't the koran written in islamic, and didn't this email above mention his muslim ties? how would a normal american citizen read this book unless trained to do so? There's also the question of how he claims to nt be muslim, yet he's reading the book and figures he can make peace with them? They have been at war since the beginning of time! I truly believe it was a grave mistake to elect him. I feel we have put the american government in the hands of someone more interested in muslims and not americans in the first place. How is this for a "race war?" I may be slightly off in a few facts, this I admit, but if I am, it ain't by far.
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Pet Rock Whisperer June 02, 2009 21:13:07

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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Maybe reich should be unemployed.

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OneWorldGovernment February 19, 2009 08:14:12 (edited)

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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Obama won the hearts of many whites....because they trusted him. They looked at him and saw hope. The naive thought that they were the "chosen ones" that could bring change. Many thought "they" were going to be apart of a divine "change" they could be proud of. I am saddened for those people that were full of hope and now have none.

I saw Obama for what he is....I didn't have that messiah-chill running up my leg. I had a heavy heart and the fear of God wrenching in my soul. I knew the moment, I saw the cult-like crowds worshipping him.. I knew, he couldn't please all those people. All those people were looking for God in the wrong places.

Those people that believed they saw the "Messiah," now see the man who hates his white roots. They see part of the boy, rejected by his white mother, and longing for approval of his black father. They see the president that rejects the white race within himself.

It is a shame that the first half-white and half-black president allows race-based policies to dominate a stimulus package induced in a near-state of economic emergency. This will cause division that will rear its ugly head in the future. I pray for our future...I pray for Obama to resign.

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Early February 08, 2009 20:26:21

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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We are on this planet as one, and let by gone be that. There are a lot of poor people, and it does not matter the race. We all deserve a chance to excel, and only the wealthy white males should be excluded, same as wealthy black males they too should be excluded. All wealthy people black and white and any other should be exempt. Only my opinion

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Sara February 01, 2009 22:56:27

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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What in the hell is he talking about here. Robert Reich is wrong on this one. Race has no hands over money. We need high skill worker out in the field who know what in the hell going on and take responsability for the work.
For Rangel stating the states do not have a say in the matter. The States Legislatures do have say because they know what's going on in their state.
If these two men are so worry about America, how about they gave their money back to American.

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Sarge January 31, 2009 18:53:04 (edited)

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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Robert Reich is a midget of a man, and a half-pint egg-sucking twerp. That should sum up my feelings of that blowin'-it-out-his-ass "squirt".

We keep hearing/talking about unity, cohesiveness, and "CHANGE" but this is the same 'ol government rhetorical bullshit, just a different Administration.

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JDLogan January 31, 2009 17:02:21

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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If you want to make a distinction on who should and should not get stimulus money, try something like "no money for sex offenders" or "no money for those who make over $250,000 a year" or something that shows thought rather than hate.

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keliffa January 31, 2009 16:39:09

Yes, white males should not recieve stimulus money

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Would it be fair if BLACK males were not able to get stimulus money?

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Sarge to keliffa January 31, 2009 18:58:41 (edited)

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Huh??? Are you asking a rhetorical question or just unwilling to respond to the survey? I don't see where you submitted an explanatory reply at all, just selected A vs B. According to Reich BLACK males, red males, brown males, and yellow males ARE "entitled" so what the hell is your point???

If you disapproved of how the question was structured why did you bother to participate at all?????

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keliffa to Sarge January 31, 2009 22:08:25

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I am reversing the question, Einstein. Replace the word white with any other color, would it be fair?

And I'll choose what I participate in, thank you.

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Sarge to keliffa February 02, 2009 18:36:28 (edited)

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...didn't mean to get your knickers in a twist [...]Your racist spin card tactic is just another example of your obvious hatred for anyone who differs in skin color from possibly your own. I also find it interesting that NOW you're back-peddling and rephrasing your question to read "with any other color".

Had you "originally" framed your question to say...

"Would it be fair if BLACK, YELLOW, RED, or BROWN males were not able to get stimulus money?" that would have been a better point to consider. I'm sure the 91% current "No" results would have remained close to being the same. The reason for the survey was to gather feedback about equality for ALL. But I know your breed...you're just jumping in to stir the racial "Black" pot and then retreat into the shadows to re-shuffle your deck of race cards.

BTW - I can almost bet had the question been solely about black men you would have answered differently.

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keliffa to Sarge February 02, 2009 18:55:57

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Man, you have serious issues. A black president is now in office and they are proposing white males do not need the stimulus money. Many fo the following posts are going on about a race war.If that fair? If it is, just reverse the question. Is it ok if black males don't get the stimulus money? Of course not, that would be racist.

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Oh, and have a nice day!

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Sarge to keliffa February 02, 2009 20:17:54 (edited)

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[...] I've been on the field of battle with countless Americans of all ethnicities but it damn sure wasn't to defend the rights of people with your mindset. You're clearly the reason for so much racial divide yet you probably rant 'n rave about MLK while refusing to exercise his beliefs and values.

Based on your comments about it being "racist" if blacks were denied equal entitlements I would agree with you but AGAIN the question was not about blacks (or any of the other three so-called minorities). It was about Reich's remarks regarding white American construction workers. I (and many others) can only conclude by your comments that it's only a racial issue if the question is white versus black. According to you...If the descriptor addresses "whites" its okay to deny them equal entitlements BUT if the descriptor is "Black" (and they're being denied the same opportunites) that's racist. Before you keep showing your ignorance, by demonstrating diarrhea of the mouth, look up the definition of racist...since it does not address specific color. What a bigoted pin-head!!

Oh...one more thing...have a shitty day too.

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keliffa to Sarge February 02, 2009 22:29:32 (edited)

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What the fuck is my mindset you ignoramous? Saying white males do not deserve stimulus money is racist bullshit. My question is rhetorical: would it be fair if black males could not receive the stimulus money or would that be racism/? You are seein shit that is not there and I really don't know where your pulling this crap out of your ass. So you tell me, is it fair white men who work construction not get any stimulus money?

Might I suggest getting a dictionary to hepl you understand what was said.

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Sarge to keliffa February 03, 2009 10:45:42 (edited)

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LOL...you obviously are among the children that was "left behind" in your edu-ma-ca-shun. You make ABSOLUTELY no sense at all and I wonder if you're in withdrawal or what??? Read your original post, and the exchange we've had afterwards. You "originally" posted a "Yes, white males should NOT receive stimulus money" and then you turn around and write (in your most recent post) "saying white males do not deserve stimulus money is racist bullshit." Are you labeled the Village Idiot in your community??

Your comments are full of self-contradictions and BS. Others with a little more intelligence, then what you've written, can easily see it is you who appears to have a lower IQ then the number of crayons in a Crayola box. What a piece of work....and you voted too huh...maaarvie (LMAO).

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keliffa to Sarge February 03, 2009 13:14:26

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Were you dropped on your head a few times or what? I NEVER said white males should not get stimulous money. Ignore the set answer, that was a mistake. You should be able to tell from all of my responses that I think it is ridiculous that white men should be excluded from receiving money. And then my rhetorical question was :would it be ok if black males did not receive money? No it would not be fair. Noone set group should be exempt, black or white, male or female, gay or straight.

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Sarge to keliffa February 03, 2009 17:26:09 (edited)

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Good, sounds like we finally agree since you've now admitted that banning ANY American from an economic stimulus entitlement is unjust and frankly illegal. To avoid any further confusion next time please "read" (if you're able to) the survey's choices before making a dumb-assed statement, since you originally selected "Yes, white males should NOT receive stimulus money". Happy to see that now you've admitted your original choice was a "mistake"...dahhhh.

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keliffa to Sarge February 03, 2009 17:34:27 (edited)

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If you could fuckin comprehend what you were bitching about, you would see I was saying excluding anyone on race was bullshit. Hence, my first resposne: Would it be fair if BLACK males were excluded? To avoid further confusion, actually pay attention and read responses rather than looking at the set answers to the question which could easily be a mistake before PMSing out on someone who is saying basically what you are saying. Comprende?

Oh, PS, I'm white, dumbass.

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Sarge to keliffa February 03, 2009 22:53:55 (edited)

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This is my final post to you 'cause I'm sick of playin' tag with your lame kindergarten posts. Obviously you've shown to me (and countless others) your complete inability to "comprende" the essence of the survey in the first place, by not even being able to simply choose the response you "intended" to select. "Oooohhh A, B, or C, that's a tough one???" (LMAO). Good thing this was only a multiple choice survey otherwise heaven only knows the difficulty factor you would have had to deal with. Did well in school did ya???
Go take another lude or better yet...take an entire bottle!!!!!!!!

Have a mighty fine day shithead and ps...I could care less what fucking color you are......you're clearly ignorant and that speaks volumes about your upbringing.

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keliffa to Sarge February 03, 2009 23:28:28 (edited)

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You're a fucking loser.

Toodles

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daenici... to Sarge February 01, 2009 07:08:29
Sarge to daenici... February 02, 2009 18:54:43

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Good point...and I think Reich's ancestors dodged Adolph's genocide.

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daenici... to keliffa February 01, 2009 06:58:07
Steeleye January 31, 2009 03:53:21

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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Thank god I have not been layed off or downright fired, yet. I guess my only option will be to raid the 401K and run for Mexico when that happens. Or I could wait until the white male gets minority status due to our jobless rate. So much for skills helping anyone get a job. Maybe we can now meet China's quality standards.

Do these morons really not understand why there are no blue collar jobs in the inner city. Most large cities have tax rates that drive out business. They have noise standards, parking constraints, permit issues, and a host of other deficiencies that do not allow large industrial employers to prosper there.

These fools continue to make everything racial. I do not hate anybody for the color of their skin, but I do hate people who tell me that I do not deserve anything because my color is white. People keep directing racism at me and every other white worker in this country and racism will explode. It is really unfortunate that when racial strife starts these A holes that promoted it will have added security.

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daenicinead January 31, 2009 03:34:49
Lady Rider January 31, 2009 01:52:12

Yes, white males should not recieve stimulus money

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in other words....how we gonna git this money to thee niggas......
I am so sick of the trump card!

Can I hear an AMEN brother?????

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daenici... to Lady Rider January 31, 2009 16:36:02 (edited)
crowns-n-drums January 30, 2009 23:12:39

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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What a load of crap! Oh well, it's just a band-aid anyway. They will give you money to spend on stuff you really don't need and within weeks it's gone and then what? If they really want to help us out, how bout forgiving everyone's credit card debt?

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thir1t3en..Sie hassen mich ... January 30, 2009 22:12:54

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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Did you think the black man was going to be fair to the white man after he got the WHITE MAN'S vote? Uh, no. I think these white house pigs need to be shown out on their ear, including Mr. Obama. I agree- illegal aliens should NOT receive income tax checks, especially since the bastards don't pay into the system anyway!!!! When is this shit going to be right? People need to wake up. The entire Fed is illegal and the IRS collecting taxes the way they do is also illegal.

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MsTlynne January 30, 2009 20:36:54 (edited)

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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It would be shameful if Mr. Reich had really said that, but IT'S A LIE. It's really not okay to dismantle a statement and piece together the parts that will cause the most sparks of diversity to fly. I recommend Soda Heads first research all questions stemming from the "news" prior to answering. That would save us all from a lot of hate based on LIES.

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daenici... to MsTlynne January 31, 2009 16:38:49
MsTlynne to daenici... February 10, 2009 14:49:35

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He didn't say it. The question was based on a lie formed in the asker's own mind.

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jeremia... to MsTlynne June 19, 2011 03:41:01

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Can you link a source to an unedited version of the video? I'm curious because I'm the type of person that likes to get to the bottom of things. The first time I saw the video it seemed edited but I'm not a forensic video expert so... anyhow if you have seen the original video can you let me know where to find it?

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jeremia... to daenici... June 19, 2011 03:39:14

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Moderated??? way to go sodahead!!! way to hide behind the 1st Amendment to further your agenda but when a reader makes a post that rubs you the wrong way then you "moderate" the comment. Makes me proud to be an American.

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Dan™: Real Change, Not Fals... January 30, 2009 17:52:05 (edited)

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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When Obama was once asked whether he was in favor of racial reparations payments, he said "no", explaining that he "didn't think they went far enough."

This seemed a vague and somewhat unsettling answer at the time; but now that he's using his "stimulus" plan to redistribute wealth from white people to minorities, I think I finally understand what he meant.

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Sarge to Dan™: R... February 02, 2009 19:11:41 (edited)

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When the white "Praise" OOooooooo-bama Sheeple (and those of other ethnicities too) discover they have been flim-flammed by this racist Marxist perhaps they too will be awakened to join the movement. When they see less of their take-home-pay (due to job losses and/or increased taxes), and realize those earnings/opportunities are being funneled to other ethnicities based on skin color (versus experience, education, and/or citizenship status), that will SURELY give them pause (unless they insist on remaining blinded with illogical racial hatred). Don't you love the phrase "All men are created EQUAL", as long as you fit the Mesiah's mindset.

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OneWorl... to Dan™: R... February 19, 2009 09:38:58

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Do you know he actually approved 8 million for a reparations study to be done on blacks that may be due money from slavery? That could be a few more trillion.

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Pearl January 30, 2009 06:52:37

No, dividing Americans by race is wrong

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Ok Mr Reich, Lets Just take away your pay all together your a white male and you don't need it. As for you Mr. Rengel, Why don't you explain why you were allowed to pay thousands of dollars in back taxes without penalty? Then explain why the stimulus checks are also going to be given to people who pay no taxes and even illegal aliens...

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Bun January 30, 2009 05:02:08

Yes, white males should not recieve stimulus money

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White males like you bill'o and flush limppaw and hannity and cheney and the rest of the billionares boy club.
The real white Americans have nothing to fear!

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Lady Rider to Bun January 31, 2009 01:56:23

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like hell they don't!!!!

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