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Rhode Island Teen's Battle Against Prayer Banner Has Gone 'Too Far,' Mayor Says

(▪‿▪)DoctorWhoGuru(▪‿▪) 2012/01/18 20:21:54

A controversy initiated by a teenage girl over a prayer banner in a Rhode Island public school has gone "too far" according to the town's mayor.

The teen, who is 16 and says she's an atheist, has received threats and the city is paying hefty amounts of money in legal fees.

A Rhode Island judge ruled last week that a prayer mural at Cranston High School West needs to be removed "immediately," but members of the community are fighting back by pursuing an appeal that would cost the city more money in a legal battle that has already racked up tens of thousands of dollars in fees.

"I think it's gone too far," Cranston Mayor Allan Fung told ABCNews.com. "Our country was built upon civil discourse, not hate for one person exercising their constitutional rights."

Fung said, however, that if it were up to him, "I would say, respect the judge's decision and not take the appeal because, unfortunately, we could not afford these costs in these tight budgetary times."

The teenager at the center of the controversy is junior Jessica Ahlquist, who has thousands of supporters on a number of Facebook pages, Twitter and her own website.

"I would definitely say that being an atheist is a big part of my identity, mostly because I'm an activist," Ahlquist said in a YouTube video that answered questions from supporters. "I wouldn't say that I go shoving atheism down anyone else's throat. I just feel passionate about activism and specifically activism for atheism."

The battle began in July 2010 when Ahlquist informed her local ACLU chapter of the mural addressed to "Our Heavenly Father" that is displayed in the auditorium of her school. Ahlquist said in her ACLU suit that the banner made her feel "ostracized and out of place."

The mural has been in the school since 1963 and a school committee said it was "historical" and "artistic."

The matter went before U.S. District Judge Ronald Lagueux who decided on Jan. 12 that, "No amount of debate can make the School Prayer anything other than a prayer." He ordered that it be taken down, but the mural is currently still up but covered with a tarp.

On Tuesday night, nearly 300 members of the school community attended a school committee meeting and the majority of those in attendance were calling for an appeal to the decision so that the banner could stay up. Some carried signs that said, "Appeal or we'll vote them out," according to ABC News' Providence affiliate WLNE.

No decision on whether or not to appeal was reached at the meeting as the item was not on the pre-determined agenda.

Ahlquist was at the meeting and said she would "definitely" do what she did again, even if she has been getting frightening threats.

"A lot of people are saying that they hope I get beat up," she told WLNE. "They they would hurt me physically in school if they could. It is hurtful. It kind of disturbed me. It's mostly hurtful when it comes from students in the school."

A few extra police officers were on-hand in case anything was to get out-of-control, but nothing happened. The school board said it is not ready to make a decision yet on whether to appeal the decision.

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  • antiteaparty 2012/01/18 20:28:40
    antiteaparty
    +10
    Good for her! Stand Up for your rights! You shouldn't be forced to see others belief in a Fairytale! The appeal will just waste more Tax payers money. Period!

    I wonder how these people would feel if it were a Muslim Mural?

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  • Algor. Mortis. - ҎԊǢɬ Physician
    +2
    "I would definitely say that being an atheist is a big part of my identity, mostly because I'm an activist,"
    Someone's a special snowflake
    The mural has been there since before she was born, she needs to shut up. I can't stand atheists who, for whatever reason, think it's their moral duty to spread atheism, that makes you a missionary.
  • 16 2012/01/18 22:43:06
    16
    +1
    I'm very proud that she has the ability to speak up for what she believes in! I'm all with her!
  • Contarded Chickenhawk Con S... 2012/01/18 21:39:54
    Contarded Chickenhawk Con Slayer
    +2
    What a brave young American...

    I salute her!

    american flag
  • beck 2012/01/18 21:31:52
    beck
    +3
    just take it down already.there are so many things wrong in the world today, and this is what people are going crazy about?!
  • sjalan 2012/01/18 21:24:19
    sjalan
    +5
    The mayor is indeed correct. It has gone too far. The religious right backing the appeal needs to understand that religion does not belong in public schools.
  • Starman 2012/01/18 21:19:47
    Starman
    +7
    Religion has no place in public schools
  • Bastion 2012/01/18 21:13:47
    Bastion
    +5
    Great lesson for the other kids in school, as well as the teachers - majority rule does not take away Constitutional rights.

    American religious freedom . . . isn't it the BEST?
  • bob 2012/01/18 21:11:47
    bob
    +8
    The separation of church and state is a good thing.
  • Ferηαηdσ [Clinton2016] 2012/01/18 20:49:59
    Ferηαηdσ [Clinton2016]
    +7
    Kudos to her. I agree with what she is doing.
  • scbluesman13 2012/01/18 20:44:02
    scbluesman13
    +9
    Ahlquist is a brave and courageous young woman for standing up for what is right and just. Religion and prayer have absolutely NO PLACE in our schools, and the idea that communities can choose to override this constitutional separation because they feel like it does not make it OK. More people like Jessica need to stand up to this kind of religious tyranny before we can truly say we live in a democratic society.
  • Beautiful_Syn 2012/01/18 20:37:03
    Beautiful_Syn
    +5
    It would be okay if the city just said okay, the same happened in my county where a girl or guy since the identity has been withheld is trying to have the Ten Commandments removed from the high school's office.

    People do remember that there is a thing called separation of Church and State right? I don't send my children to school to have religion crammed down their throats (in my county they even off a thing called bible bus where they take the kids off school campus to a church parking lot for two hours to have them read from the bible)
  • themadhare ~IJM 2012/01/18 20:34:07
    themadhare ~IJM
    +3
    she should find something real to whine about
  • elijahin24 themadh... 2012/01/18 21:20:06
    elijahin24
    +6
    Yeah, cuz it's not like freedom of religion matters.
  • themadh... elijahin24 2012/01/19 08:24:49
    themadhare ~IJM
    so, we destroy that freedom, is that what you're saying? tear it off the wall?
  • elijahin24 themadh... 2012/01/19 13:53:25
    elijahin24
    I'm saying WITH it on the wall, the freedom is infringed upon. Her freedom. You Christians seem to think that religious freedom means that YOU get to plaster your mythology over every surface on earth, but you tend to be the first ones to be outraged if anyone else DARES push their religion. The only way to protect EACH students religious freedom, is if the school (and all public institutions) do not promote ANY religion.
  • themadh... elijahin24 2012/01/19 15:23:51
    themadhare ~IJM
    Wrong twice. I'm not a Christian.
  • elijahin24 themadh... 2012/01/19 16:36:42
    elijahin24
    I stand corrected. Whatever your religion may be, it doesn't belong in schools.
  • themadh... elijahin24 2012/01/19 16:37:41
    themadhare ~IJM
    I believe a better solution is to give her equal wall space.
  • elijahin24 themadh... 2012/01/19 16:51:43
    elijahin24
    To do what? She doesn't have religious beliefs to promote. Why should religion have ANYTHING to do with public schools? Will kids have a better understanding of science, if every answer comes back to "God did it"? What value does religion bring, when incorporated into public schools?
  • themadh... elijahin24 2012/01/19 17:11:40
    themadhare ~IJM
    Atheism is a religious belief. She may express herself, but may not impose her beliefs in a publicly supported venue.
  • elijahin24 themadh... 2012/01/19 17:16:02
    elijahin24
    Nor can Christians. That is the point. This banner is a violation of the First Amendment. Christians cannot impose their beliefs in a publicly supported venue. Atheists may not either. Nor may Hindu, Muslim or the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. This seems simple to me. What about it, do you not get?
  • themadh... elijahin24 2012/01/19 17:18:57
    themadhare ~IJM
    I get that censorship is at least as strong a statement as a banner. Free speech is the constitutional right that is being abridged.
  • elijahin24 themadh... 2012/01/19 18:55:21
    elijahin24
    Free speech is abridged all the time in schools. Kids cannot say words that are deemed to be curse-words at school. They can't wear t-shirts with profanity, or which advertize tobacco, or alcohol; or which promote sex or drug-use. And most of us would agree that that is for the best, because these things distract from the purpose of going to school: to learn. Religion does too. And since it has absolutely nothing to do with education, it has no business being pushed by the schools. Nobody is saying that kids can't have conversations with classmates between classes or at lunch. We're only saying that the school can't hang a banner indicating their endorcement of a specfic religion.
  • themadh... elijahin24 2012/01/19 19:48:39
    themadhare ~IJM
    a banner does not establish a state church.
  • elijahin24 themadh... 2012/01/19 19:56:54
    elijahin24
    Who said anything about establishing a state church?
  • America... themadh... 2012/01/19 05:48:49
    American☆Atheist
    I think the only ppl that are whining are the christians.
  • themadh... America... 2012/01/19 08:10:51
    themadhare ~IJM
    a little whining from you methinks.....
  • America... themadh... 2012/01/19 08:29:28
    American☆Atheist
    No, i am just for the constitution.
  • themadh... America... 2012/01/19 08:33:58
    themadhare ~IJM
    of course! it's in the constitution! let's not put up our own ideas. we just eliminate all others.


    book burning
  • abubincrazy 2012/01/18 20:33:22
    abubincrazy
    +5
    Look, there is NO mention of the "separation of church and state" that socialists and atheists constantly pretend exists in the Constitution.

    The Constitution prohibits establishment of a state-sanctioned religion, it does NOT prohibit religious observance in government buildings.

    This little girl is free to express her opinion, but she is still wrong.
  • The San... abubinc... 2012/01/18 20:52:45
    The Sane One
    +9
    What do you think that the banner DOES, if it doesn't promote a specific religion?

    You'd be all up in arms if she were wanting to inscribe a pentagram on the floor of the gym.
  • abubinc... The San... 2012/01/18 21:02:35
    abubincrazy
    +1
    No, I wouldn't.
    Do not assume.
  • The San... abubinc... 2012/01/18 21:04:34
    The Sane One
    +5
    Would you allow the inclusion of the Quran into the school library?
  • abubinc... The San... 2012/01/18 21:11:18
    abubincrazy
    I don't decide which books are in a library in Rhode Island.
    Do you?
    Would you allow a midget named Lorenzo to kick you in the nads while singing the Spanish national anthem in Portuguese?
  • The San... abubinc... 2012/01/18 21:15:37 (edited)
    The Sane One
    +4
    Lorenzo, no.

    Giovanni, perhaps.
  • abubinc... The San... 2012/01/18 21:23:25
    abubincrazy
    +1
    Giovanni kickin it OLD SCHOOL! lol
  • antitea... abubinc... 2012/01/18 20:54:05
    antiteaparty
    +4
    So when did you sit on the Supreme Court?
  • abubinc... antitea... 2012/01/18 21:06:19
    abubincrazy
    What the hell does sitting on the Supreme Court have to do with it?
    I can READ. I read the frigging Constitution.
    My comprehension is apparently a little better than yours.
    Or do you belong to the Pelosi school that feels we should learn what's in the law after it's enacted?
  • Bastion abubinc... 2012/01/18 21:15:54
    Bastion
    +5
    No, you should re-visit Constitutional law and educate yourself.
  • elijahin24 Bastion 2012/01/18 21:21:28 (edited)
    elijahin24
    +4
    If he educates himself, he'll know he's wrong; and that just can't happen.

    edit: adding the following

    Full Disclosure: I did block Abubincrazy, and perhaps it is unfair for me to take a shot at him while leaving him no way to respond.
    However, I know my criteria for blocking someone, and though I don't remember the specific incident that led to his being blocked; for it to have happened, he must have been extremely abusive. Anything short of that, doesn't get a block from me.

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